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you mention tear gas that obviously one of the hallmarks of of the brutality of
the moon barbara jean prior to the election a president morrissey prior to
the
we're square
um... sp
revolution if you will
was the the use of really brutal violence toward toward the protesters
interest where
on on the state can more than five hundred
protesters were killed
by some kind of state militia during the course of those
protest in january of twenty eleven
has has asthma
has president morris's repression approach as you mentioned tear gas
has it has it
edged into mubarak levels of suppression at this point
well fertility here we are
yes absolutely
okay
uh...
i mean it's hard to say i i personally wasn't here at at the beginning of the
revolting twelve and i was here in the latest data so
like but i couldn't speak to
didn't barges repressing in particular
uh...
probably did it because you see
in a lot of cases actually the police have and the role of the plays a sort of
changed because they have always
traditionally this year's it as a tool to st
but since what is taking over against all of reports coming out of here having
difficulty controlling different
institutions of the state such as popping up at such as the interior
ministry
the state media and there's a guy that intermission chill so please
if the aikido if the police are are
to fight the protesters
this is something that is
sometimes seen as close to the state but the situation is complicated and other
actually recently was a bit of like uh... foresee appointed a new interior
minister
and there was a there is a sort of the doubt cry with in the interior ministry
about it
so it's not as
as strictly tied from morrissey
to to the police repression on the streets
but at the same time
he protesters are being killed
whether being per pressing issues and they're going to be blaming him for that
we're talking with
jake matthews a freelance reporter living in cairo egypt august two both
live right now from cairo where there is ongoing on residents
president muhammed morrissey jake has room for the agent independent the times
of india
nine seventeen magazine in world politics
if americans are true tuning into this violence
and their thinking
that the arabs spring has now turned into the air winter
so on the one hand they may be skeptical
that in fact
these areas are becoming more liberated
but they're also wondering
watching americans care
what would you tell those americans
well i mean
i would say in some sense we need to stop caring so much
because especially in this part of
in specially in egypt in particular a lot of are caring too much
about what's going on in this country has cause problems in this country has
caused us to prop up the old regime
which now has made us very unpopular in egypt early summer governmental level
at the same time based does she care in the sense that
americans should go
what sort of country they left in the wake of
essentially trying to buy stability and trying to buy a broker for the
israeli-palestinian negotiations
it this is what is wrong
and this is what the you know the unexpected consequences of propping up
dictatorships
uh... has shown us
so i do think it's important for us to recognize
you know what's going on here and the consequences
of what we do but at the same time i think we should also take a step back
and and think that
impeded is going to need to stop by itself maybe we can get a county
reluctant really the right the fascinating stuff the fencing
perspective from jake myth
live in cairo freelance journalist living in cairo egypt
right now
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