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WELCOME TO AT ISSUE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. I AM H. WAYNE WILSON.
US. I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF
I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF NUMBERS WITH YOU.
I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF NUMBERS WITH YOU. WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT 98% OF
NUMBERS WITH YOU. WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT 98% OF INCUMBANTS ARE REELECTED IN
WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT 98% OF INCUMBANTS ARE REELECTED IN ILLINOIS LEGISLATIVE RACES.
INCUMBANTS ARE REELECTED IN ILLINOIS LEGISLATIVE RACES. 98% OF INCUMBANTS IN GENERAL
ILLINOIS LEGISLATIVE RACES. 98% OF INCUMBANTS IN GENERAL ELECTIONS ARE REELECTED.
98% OF INCUMBANTS IN GENERAL ELECTIONS ARE REELECTED. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY
ELECTIONS ARE REELECTED. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY THAT NUMBER IS SO HIGH ARE, AND
WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY THAT NUMBER IS SO HIGH ARE, AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT AN
THAT NUMBER IS SO HIGH ARE, AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT AN EFFORT TO CHANGE THE WAY
WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT AN EFFORT TO CHANGE THE WAY DISTRICTS ARE SHAPED IN THE
EFFORT TO CHANGE THE WAY DISTRICTS ARE SHAPED IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
DISTRICTS ARE SHAPED IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. TO HELP US WITH THAT
STATE OF ILLINOIS. TO HELP US WITH THAT CONVERSATION IS JAN CZARNIK.
TO HELP US WITH THAT CONVERSATION IS JAN CZARNIK. JAN IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
CONVERSATION IS JAN CZARNIK. JAN IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ILLINOIS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.
JAN IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ILLINOIS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
ILLINOIS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >>BRAD McMILLAN IS WITH ME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >>BRAD McMILLAN IS WITH ME. BRAD WEARS SEVERAL HATS.
>>BRAD McMILLAN IS WITH ME. BRAD WEARS SEVERAL HATS. EGG ADD BRADLEY UNIVERSITY WITH
BRAD WEARS SEVERAL HATS. EGG ADD BRADLEY UNIVERSITY WITH INSTITUTE OF LEADERSHIP IN
EGG ADD BRADLEY UNIVERSITY WITH INSTITUTE OF LEADERSHIP IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
INSTITUTE OF LEADERSHIP IN PUBLIC SERVICE. MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THIS
PUBLIC SERVICE. MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THIS CONVERSATION, BRAD WAS, IS A
MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THIS CONVERSATION, BRAD WAS, IS A MEMBER OF.
CONVERSATION, BRAD WAS, IS A MEMBER OF. DOES THE COMMISSION STILL EXIST?
MEMBER OF. DOES THE COMMISSION STILL EXIST? >> TECHNICALLY IT DOES.
DOES THE COMMISSION STILL EXIST? >> TECHNICALLY IT DOES. >>A MEMBER OF THE ILLINOIS
>> TECHNICALLY IT DOES. >>A MEMBER OF THE ILLINOIS REFORM COMMISSION, ONE OF THE
>>A MEMBER OF THE ILLINOIS REFORM COMMISSION, ONE OF THE DUTIES WHICH WAS?
REFORM COMMISSION, ONE OF THE DUTIES WHICH WAS? >> WELL, WE HAD A HUNDRED DAYS
DUTIES WHICH WAS? >> WELL, WE HAD A HUNDRED DAYS TO REPORT BACK TO THE GOVERNOR
>> WELL, WE HAD A HUNDRED DAYS TO REPORT BACK TO THE GOVERNOR AND TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON
TO REPORT BACK TO THE GOVERNOR AND TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON HOW WE CLEAN UP ILLINOIS
AND TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON HOW WE CLEAN UP ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS.
HOW WE CLEAN UP ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS. AND THE AREA THAT I FOCUS MY
GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS. AND THE AREA THAT I FOCUS MY ATTENTION WAS REDISTRICTING.
AND THE AREA THAT I FOCUS MY ATTENTION WAS REDISTRICTING. WE BROUGHT IN EXPERTS FROM
ATTENTION WAS REDISTRICTING. WE BROUGHT IN EXPERTS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT GAVE US
WE BROUGHT IN EXPERTS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT GAVE US BEST PRACTICE MODELS.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT GAVE US BEST PRACTICE MODELS. ILLINOIS WAS NOT IN THAT LIST --
BEST PRACTICE MODELS. ILLINOIS WAS NOT IN THAT LIST -- ON THAT LIST BY ANY STRETCH OF
ILLINOIS WAS NOT IN THAT LIST -- ON THAT LIST BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
ON THAT LIST BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. IN FACT, OUR CURRENT PROCESS IS
THE IMAGINATION. IN FACT, OUR CURRENT PROCESS IS PROBABLY THE WORST IN THE
IN FACT, OUR CURRENT PROCESS IS PROBABLY THE WORST IN THE COUNTRY.
PROBABLY THE WORST IN THE COUNTRY. SO WE, IN OUR REPORT, CALLED FOR
COUNTRY. SO WE, IN OUR REPORT, CALLED FOR SWEEPING REFORM, AND THAT
SO WE, IN OUR REPORT, CALLED FOR SWEEPING REFORM, AND THAT FRAMEWORK IS NOW WHAT MAKES UP
SWEEPING REFORM, AND THAT FRAMEWORK IS NOW WHAT MAKES UP THE ILLINOIS FAIR MAP AMENDMENT.
FRAMEWORK IS NOW WHAT MAKES UP THE ILLINOIS FAIR MAP AMENDMENT. >>WE WILL TALK ABOUT FAIR MAP IN
THE ILLINOIS FAIR MAP AMENDMENT. >>WE WILL TALK ABOUT FAIR MAP IN A MOMENT OF BUT A COUPLE MORE
>>WE WILL TALK ABOUT FAIR MAP IN A MOMENT OF BUT A COUPLE MORE NUMBERS TO PUT IT ALL IN
A MOMENT OF BUT A COUPLE MORE NUMBERS TO PUT IT ALL IN PERSPECTIVE.
NUMBERS TO PUT IT ALL IN PERSPECTIVE. WE MENTIONED 98%, THOSE WHO
PERSPECTIVE. WE MENTIONED 98%, THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO RUN AGAIN, AND THERE
WE MENTIONED 98%, THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO RUN AGAIN, AND THERE ARE MORE NUMBERS.
CHOOSE TO RUN AGAIN, AND THERE ARE MORE NUMBERS. OF THE 547 RACES SINCE 2001, THE
ARE MORE NUMBERS. OF THE 547 RACES SINCE 2001, THE LAST TIME REDISTRICTING TOOK
OF THE 547 RACES SINCE 2001, THE LAST TIME REDISTRICTING TOOK PLACE, 537 INCUMBANTS WON RE
LAST TIME REDISTRICTING TOOK PLACE, 537 INCUMBANTS WON RE ELECTION, AND 45% OF THOSE
PLACE, 537 INCUMBANTS WON RE ELECTION, AND 45% OF THOSE RACES WERE UNCONTESTED RACES.
ELECTION, AND 45% OF THOSE RACES WERE UNCONTESTED RACES. IS THAT DUE, IN PART, BECAUSE OF
RACES WERE UNCONTESTED RACES. IS THAT DUE, IN PART, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE WAY THAT THE
IS THAT DUE, IN PART, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE WAY THAT THE DISTRICTS ARE CON FIGURED?
SOME OF THE WAY THAT THE DISTRICTS ARE CON FIGURED? >> YES.
DISTRICTS ARE CON FIGURED? >> YES. IT IS DUE LARGELY TO THE WAY THE
>> YES. IT IS DUE LARGELY TO THE WAY THE DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN COUPLED WITH
IT IS DUE LARGELY TO THE WAY THE DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN COUPLED WITH THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT
DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN COUPLED WITH THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT LEGISLATIVE LEADERS ARE ALLOWED
THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT LEGISLATIVE LEADERS ARE ALLOWED TO PUT INTO THE RACES OF THE
LEGISLATIVE LEADERS ARE ALLOWED TO PUT INTO THE RACES OF THE INCUMBANTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE
TO PUT INTO THE RACES OF THE INCUMBANTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE REELECTED.
INCUMBANTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE REELECTED. WE, AT THE LEAGUE, RECENTLY, BY
TO SEE REELECTED. WE, AT THE LEAGUE, RECENTLY, BY RECENTLY, I MEAN ABOUT A YEAR
WE, AT THE LEAGUE, RECENTLY, BY RECENTLY, I MEAN ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE STARTED
RECENTLY, I MEAN ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE STARTED SAYING TO EACH OTHER "YOU KNOW,
AND A HALF AGO, WE STARTED SAYING TO EACH OTHER "YOU KNOW, YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER
SAYING TO EACH OTHER "YOU KNOW, YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE FIND
YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE FIND OURSELVES WORKING ON THE SAME
YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE FIND OURSELVES WORKING ON THE SAME ISSUES IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
OURSELVES WORKING ON THE SAME ISSUES IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. WE FIND OURSELVES GOING DOWN TO
ISSUES IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. WE FIND OURSELVES GOING DOWN TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND TALKING
WE FIND OURSELVES GOING DOWN TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND TALKING TO THE SAME REPRESENTATIVES AND
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND TALKING TO THE SAME REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES
TO THE SAME REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES AND GETTING NO WHERE."
SENATORS ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES AND GETTING NO WHERE." A HUGE PART OF THE REASON THAT
AND GETTING NO WHERE." A HUGE PART OF THE REASON THAT WE GOT NO WHERE IS THAT FOR MOST
A HUGE PART OF THE REASON THAT WE GOT NO WHERE IS THAT FOR MOST OF THEM, THEIR REELECTIONS ARE
WE GOT NO WHERE IS THAT FOR MOST OF THEM, THEIR REELECTIONS ARE VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED REGARDLESS
OF THEM, THEIR REELECTIONS ARE VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO OR WHAT THEY
VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO OR WHAT THEY FAIL TO DO.
OF WHAT THEY DO OR WHAT THEY FAIL TO DO. SO WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS REALLY
FAIL TO DO. SO WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS REALLY TIME FOR THE LEAGUE TO STEP UP
SO WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS REALLY TIME FOR THE LEAGUE TO STEP UP AND TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE OF
TIME FOR THE LEAGUE TO STEP UP AND TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS, IF YOU WANT A STATE
AND TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS, IF YOU WANT A STATE GOVERNMENT THAT IS WORKING
ILLINOIS, IF YOU WANT A STATE GOVERNMENT THAT IS WORKING BETTER, YOU REALLY HAVE TO
GOVERNMENT THAT IS WORKING BETTER, YOU REALLY HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO
BETTER, YOU REALLY HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO REDISTRICTING IN ILLINOIS.
CHANGE THE WAY WE DO REDISTRICTING IN ILLINOIS. >>BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT -- AND
REDISTRICTING IN ILLINOIS. >>BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT -- AND THERE IS A PETITION PROCESS
>>BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT -- AND THERE IS A PETITION PROCESS UNDERWAY THAT WOULD LEAD TO A
THERE IS A PETITION PROCESS UNDERWAY THAT WOULD LEAD TO A CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE ON THE
UNDERWAY THAT WOULD LEAD TO A CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
CONSTITUTIONAL CHANGE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, HOW ARE
NOVEMBER BALLOT. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, HOW ARE DISTRICTS FORMED RIGHT NOW?
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, HOW ARE DISTRICTS FORMED RIGHT NOW? >> RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT
DISTRICTS FORMED RIGHT NOW? >> RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT PROCESS, AND WE ARE ALL SEEING
>> RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT PROCESS, AND WE ARE ALL SEEING THE COMMERCIALS ON THE CENSUS
PROCESS, AND WE ARE ALL SEEING THE COMMERCIALS ON THE CENSUS COMING UP, AND IF WE DON'T DO
THE COMMERCIALS ON THE CENSUS COMING UP, AND IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS,
COMING UP, AND IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, THE POLITICIANS BEHIND CLOSED
ANYTHING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, THE POLITICIANS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN SECRET WILL DRAW THE
THE POLITICIANS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN SECRET WILL DRAW THE LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS, AND THEY
DOORS IN SECRET WILL DRAW THE LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS, AND THEY WILL LOOK AT YOUR VOTING HISTORY
LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS, AND THEY WILL LOOK AT YOUR VOTING HISTORY AND MY VOTING HISTORY AND JAN'S
WILL LOOK AT YOUR VOTING HISTORY AND MY VOTING HISTORY AND JAN'S AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S, AND THEY
AND MY VOTING HISTORY AND JAN'S AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S, AND THEY WILL CREATE EITHER SAFE
AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S, AND THEY WILL CREATE EITHER SAFE DEMOCRATIC DISTRICTS OR SAFE
WILL CREATE EITHER SAFE DEMOCRATIC DISTRICTS OR SAFE REPUBLICAN DISTRICTS THAT'S WHY
DEMOCRATIC DISTRICTS OR SAFE REPUBLICAN DISTRICTS THAT'S WHY WE GET THE 98% REELECTION RATE.
REPUBLICAN DISTRICTS THAT'S WHY WE GET THE 98% REELECTION RATE. THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY.
WE GET THE 98% REELECTION RATE. THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY. IF THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS
THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY. IF THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DON'T AGREE ON MAPS, WHICH THEY
IF THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DON'T AGREE ON MAPS, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T THE LAST 30 YEARS, THEY
DON'T AGREE ON MAPS, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T THE LAST 30 YEARS, THEY PUT A REPUBLICAN NAME AND
HAVEN'T THE LAST 30 YEARS, THEY PUT A REPUBLICAN NAME AND DEMOCRAT NAME IN A HAT.
PUT A REPUBLICAN NAME AND DEMOCRAT NAME IN A HAT. ONE YEAR THOUGH USED ABRAHAM
DEMOCRAT NAME IN A HAT. ONE YEAR THOUGH USED ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S STOVEPIPE HAT.
ONE YEAR THOUGH USED ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S STOVEPIPE HAT. THE SECRETARY OF STATE PULLS IT
LINCOLN'S STOVEPIPE HAT. THE SECRETARY OF STATE PULLS IT OUT OF THE HAT, AND THAT PARTY
THE SECRETARY OF STATE PULLS IT OUT OF THE HAT, AND THAT PARTY GETS TO CONTROL THE LEGISLATURE
OUT OF THE HAT, AND THAT PARTY GETS TO CONTROL THE LEGISLATURE IT TIVE MAP DURING A PROCESS.
GETS TO CONTROL THE LEGISLATURE IT TIVE MAP DURING A PROCESS. IT IT IS A CRAZY PROCESS, AND IN
IT TIVE MAP DURING A PROCESS. IT IT IS A CRAZY PROCESS, AND IN NO WAY IS IT JUSTIFIABLE AND
IT IT IS A CRAZY PROCESS, AND IN NO WAY IS IT JUSTIFIABLE AND DOESN'T SERVE THE BEST INTEREST
NO WAY IS IT JUSTIFIABLE AND DOESN'T SERVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF
DOESN'T SERVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. >>TEN YEARS AGO, THE DEMOCRATS
ILLINOIS. >>TEN YEARS AGO, THE DEMOCRATS THREW DREW THE LONG STRAW?
>>TEN YEARS AGO, THE DEMOCRATS THREW DREW THE LONG STRAW? >> CORRECT.
THREW DREW THE LONG STRAW? >> CORRECT. >>BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I
>> CORRECT. >>BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS
>>BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN EFFORT TO
NEED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN EFFORT TO FOR LEGISLATION IN SPRINGFIELD,
WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN EFFORT TO FOR LEGISLATION IN SPRINGFIELD, THERE IS A SENATE REDISTRICTING
FOR LEGISLATION IN SPRINGFIELD, THERE IS A SENATE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY QUAMIRAUL,
THERE IS A SENATE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY QUAMIRAUL, AND HE IS LEADING AN EFFORT THAT
COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY QUAMIRAUL, AND HE IS LEADING AN EFFORT THAT MAY END UP IN LEGISLATION.
AND HE IS LEADING AN EFFORT THAT MAY END UP IN LEGISLATION. THAT LEGISLATION WOULD ALSO GO
MAY END UP IN LEGISLATION. THAT LEGISLATION WOULD ALSO GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN A VOTE.
THAT LEGISLATION WOULD ALSO GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN A VOTE. I WANT TO POINT OUT WE INVITED
BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN A VOTE. I WANT TO POINT OUT WE INVITED BOTH SENATOR JOHN SULLIVAN OF
I WANT TO POINT OUT WE INVITED BOTH SENATOR JOHN SULLIVAN OF THAT COMMISSION AND MR. RAUL,
BOTH SENATOR JOHN SULLIVAN OF THAT COMMISSION AND MR. RAUL, AND THEY BOTH CHOSE NOT TO
THAT COMMISSION AND MR. RAUL, AND THEY BOTH CHOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OF
AND THEY BOTH CHOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OF COMMITTMENTS TO THEIR
PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OF COMMITTMENTS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS WE WILL CONTINUE
COMMITTMENTS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS WE WILL CONTINUE WITH FAIR MAP.
CONSTITUENTS WE WILL CONTINUE WITH FAIR MAP. SO THE LEAGUE THAT IS HEADING
WITH FAIR MAP. SO THE LEAGUE THAT IS HEADING THIS UP, BUT IT IS REALLY A
SO THE LEAGUE THAT IS HEADING THIS UP, BUT IT IS REALLY A GROUP OF ORGANIZATIONS?
THIS UP, BUT IT IS REALLY A GROUP OF ORGANIZATIONS? >> YES.
GROUP OF ORGANIZATIONS? >> YES. WELL THE LEAGUE HEADED IT UP IN
>> YES. WELL THE LEAGUE HEADED IT UP IN THE SENSE THAT, AS I SAID, ABOUT
WELL THE LEAGUE HEADED IT UP IN THE SENSE THAT, AS I SAID, ABOUT A YEAR AND AND A HALF AGO, WE
THE SENSE THAT, AS I SAID, ABOUT A YEAR AND AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD A CONVERSATION AMONG
A YEAR AND AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD A CONVERSATION AMONG OURSELVES WHEREIN WE DECIDED WE
HAD A CONVERSATION AMONG OURSELVES WHEREIN WE DECIDED WE HAVE REALLY NEEDED TO STEP UP
OURSELVES WHEREIN WE DECIDED WE HAVE REALLY NEEDED TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT, NOT ONLY
HAVE REALLY NEEDED TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT, NOT ONLY A BETTER CENSUS COUNT IN
AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT, NOT ONLY A BETTER CENSUS COUNT IN ILLINOIS, BUT ALSO TO REFORM
A BETTER CENSUS COUNT IN ILLINOIS, BUT ALSO TO REFORM THEM THE WAY THE ENSUING
ILLINOIS, BUT ALSO TO REFORM THEM THE WAY THE ENSUING REDISTRICTING WOULD BE DONE.
THEM THE WAY THE ENSUING REDISTRICTING WOULD BE DONE. SO WE ATTENDED EVERY ONE OF THE
REDISTRICTING WOULD BE DONE. SO WE ATTENDED EVERY ONE OF THE HEARINGS, THE SENATE
SO WE ATTENDED EVERY ONE OF THE HEARINGS, THE SENATE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE HAD, AND
HEARINGS, THE SENATE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE HAD, AND WE LISTENED TO THE EXPERT IT
REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE HAD, AND WE LISTENED TO THE EXPERT IT WILL AND REVIEWED ALL OF THE
WE LISTENED TO THE EXPERT IT WILL AND REVIEWED ALL OF THE PAPERS THAT THE VARIOUS EXPERTS
WILL AND REVIEWED ALL OF THE PAPERS THAT THE VARIOUS EXPERTS SUBMITTED.
PAPERS THAT THE VARIOUS EXPERTS SUBMITTED. WE CONSULTED MEMBERS OF THE
SUBMITTED. WE CONSULTED MEMBERS OF THE REFORM COMMISSION, PARTICULARLY
WE CONSULTED MEMBERS OF THE REFORM COMMISSION, PARTICULARLY BRAD McMILLAN, AND WE
REFORM COMMISSION, PARTICULARLY BRAD McMILLAN, AND WE CONSULTEDED THE BRENNAN CENTER
BRAD McMILLAN, AND WE CONSULTEDED THE BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE AT NEW YORK
CONSULTEDED THE BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW.
FOR JUSTICE AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW. THEY ARE THE NATION'S PREEMINENT
UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW. THEY ARE THE NATION'S PREEMINENT CENTER OR VOTING RIGHTS AND
THEY ARE THE NATION'S PREEMINENT CENTER OR VOTING RIGHTS AND REDISTRICTING ISSUES.
CENTER OR VOTING RIGHTS AND REDISTRICTING ISSUES. WE WORKED WITH VIRGINIA MARTINA,
REDISTRICTING ISSUES. WE WORKED WITH VIRGINIA MARTINA, SHE IS THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR
WE WORKED WITH VIRGINIA MARTINA, SHE IS THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR NORTH MEXICAN AMERICAN DEFENSE
SHE IS THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR NORTH MEXICAN AMERICAN DEFENSE EDUCATION FUND.
NORTH MEXICAN AMERICAN DEFENSE EDUCATION FUND. I FIRST MET HER IN 1982.
EDUCATION FUND. I FIRST MET HER IN 1982. SHE WAS LITIGATING THE MAP THAT
I FIRST MET HER IN 1982. SHE WAS LITIGATING THE MAP THAT WAS DRAWN IN 1981 REDISTRICTING.
SHE WAS LITIGATING THE MAP THAT WAS DRAWN IN 1981 REDISTRICTING. SHE IS A STATE EXPERT,
WAS DRAWN IN 1981 REDISTRICTING. SHE IS A STATE EXPERT, PARTICULARLY ON MINORITY VOTING
SHE IS A STATE EXPERT, PARTICULARLY ON MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS ISSUES.
PARTICULARLY ON MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS ISSUES. WE TALKED WITH EVERY OTHER
RIGHTS ISSUES. WE TALKED WITH EVERY OTHER REFORM ORGANIZATION IN ILLINOIS
WE TALKED WITH EVERY OTHER REFORM ORGANIZATION IN ILLINOIS TO SEE WHAT THEIR LEVEL OF
REFORM ORGANIZATION IN ILLINOIS TO SEE WHAT THEIR LEVEL OF INTEREST WAS IN UNDERTAKING
TO SEE WHAT THEIR LEVEL OF INTEREST WAS IN UNDERTAKING REDISTRICTING REFORM.
INTEREST WAS IN UNDERTAKING REDISTRICTING REFORM. AND, FINALLY, LAST FALL, WE SAT
REDISTRICTING REFORM. AND, FINALLY, LAST FALL, WE SAT DOWN, THOSE OF US WHO WERE
AND, FINALLY, LAST FALL, WE SAT DOWN, THOSE OF US WHO WERE INTERESTED IN BRINGING A CITIZEN
DOWN, THOSE OF US WHO WERE INTERESTED IN BRINGING A CITIZEN INITIATIVE TO THE PUBLIC, SAT
INTERESTED IN BRINGING A CITIZEN INITIATIVE TO THE PUBLIC, SAT DOWN AND WORKED OUT THE CONCEPTS
INITIATIVE TO THE PUBLIC, SAT DOWN AND WORKED OUT THE CONCEPTS AND THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSAL
DOWN AND WORKED OUT THE CONCEPTS AND THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSAL AND BROUGHT IT TO THE PUBLIC IN
AND THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSAL AND BROUGHT IT TO THE PUBLIC IN EARLY DECEMBER.
AND BROUGHT IT TO THE PUBLIC IN EARLY DECEMBER. >>AND THE COALITION HAS BEEN
EARLY DECEMBER. >>AND THE COALITION HAS BEEN GROWING, H.
>>AND THE COALITION HAS BEEN GROWING, H. IT NOT ONLY INCLUDES THE LEAGUE
GROWING, H. IT NOT ONLY INCLUDES THE LEAGUE OF WOMENNING VOTERS LEADING THE
IT NOT ONLY INCLUDES THE LEAGUE OF WOMENNING VOTERS LEADING THE CHARGE AND ALMOST EVERY REFORM
OF WOMENNING VOTERS LEADING THE CHARGE AND ALMOST EVERY REFORM GROUP IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS,
CHARGE AND ALMOST EVERY REFORM GROUP IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, BUT IT ALSO NOW INCLUDES THE
GROUP IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, BUT IT ALSO NOW INCLUDES THE ILLINOIS STATE CHAMBER OF
BUT IT ALSO NOW INCLUDES THE ILLINOIS STATE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ILLINOIS FARM BUREAU,
ILLINOIS STATE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ILLINOIS FARM BUREAU, A VERY DIVERSE BROAD BASED GROUP
COMMERCE, ILLINOIS FARM BUREAU, A VERY DIVERSE BROAD BASED GROUP OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT JUST WANT
A VERY DIVERSE BROAD BASED GROUP OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT JUST WANT TO BRING BACK GOOD GOVERNMENT TO
OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT JUST WANT TO BRING BACK GOOD GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
TO BRING BACK GOOD GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. AFTER EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN
THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. AFTER EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH, WE ARE HOPING THAT THE
AFTER EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH, WE ARE HOPING THAT THE PEOPLE WILL RALLY AROUND THIS
THROUGH, WE ARE HOPING THAT THE PEOPLE WILL RALLY AROUND THIS BECAUSE THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO
PEOPLE WILL RALLY AROUND THIS BECAUSE THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO BRINGING BACK GOOD GOVERNMENT IN
BECAUSE THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO BRINGING BACK GOOD GOVERNMENT IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
BRINGING BACK GOOD GOVERNMENT IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. >>AND ONE THING I HAVE NOTICED,
THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. >>AND ONE THING I HAVE NOTICED, I WAS MENTIONING TO BRAD EARLY.
>>AND ONE THING I HAVE NOTICED, I WAS MENTIONING TO BRAD EARLY. I WAS SICK LAST WEEK, I HAD A
I WAS MENTIONING TO BRAD EARLY. I WAS SICK LAST WEEK, I HAD A BAD COLD, HAD TO SPEND A FEW
I WAS SICK LAST WEEK, I HAD A BAD COLD, HAD TO SPEND A FEW DAYS AT HOME.
BAD COLD, HAD TO SPEND A FEW DAYS AT HOME. WHILE I WAS AWAKE, I WAS LOOKING
DAYS AT HOME. WHILE I WAS AWAKE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE FANS ON THE WEB PAGE.
WHILE I WAS AWAKE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE FANS ON THE WEB PAGE. IT IS A COLLECTION OF ACTIVISTS
AT THE FANS ON THE WEB PAGE. IT IS A COLLECTION OF ACTIVISTS WHO ARE NOT A PART OF ANY
IT IS A COLLECTION OF ACTIVISTS WHO ARE NOT A PART OF ANY ORGANIZATION NECESSARILY OF WE
WHO ARE NOT A PART OF ANY ORGANIZATION NECESSARILY OF WE ARE DELIGHTED TO SEE IN
ORGANIZATION NECESSARILY OF WE ARE DELIGHTED TO SEE IN ADDITIONAL TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL
ARE DELIGHTED TO SEE IN ADDITIONAL TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPORT, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE
ADDITIONAL TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPORT, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO UNDERSTAND HOW
SUPPORT, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS AND HOW
OUT THERE WHO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO CHANGE THE
IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THIS IN ILLINOIS.
IMPORTANT IT IS TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THIS IN ILLINOIS. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU
WAY WE DO THIS IN ILLINOIS. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU ENVISION AS THE NEW PROCESS.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU ENVISION AS THE NEW PROCESS. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WOULD YOU
ENVISION AS THE NEW PROCESS. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WOULD YOU TALK A MOMENT, JAN, ABOUT WHAT
BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, WOULD YOU TALK A MOMENT, JAN, ABOUT WHAT THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO SEE AND
TALK A MOMENT, JAN, ABOUT WHAT THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO SEE AND HOW IT MIGHT END UP BEING ON THE
THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO SEE AND HOW IT MIGHT END UP BEING ON THE BALLOT?
HOW IT MIGHT END UP BEING ON THE BALLOT? THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IT IS
BALLOT? THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT. >>THERE IS NO GUARANTEE.
GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT. >>THERE IS NO GUARANTEE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING PEOPLE
>>THERE IS NO GUARANTEE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING PEOPLE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS TO GET A
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING PEOPLE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS TO GET A PETITION TO SIGN THE PETITION,
CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS TO GET A PETITION TO SIGN THE PETITION, AND TO GET OTHERS TO SIGN THE
PETITION TO SIGN THE PETITION, AND TO GET OTHERS TO SIGN THE PETITION.
AND TO GET OTHERS TO SIGN THE PETITION. IT IS VERY EASY TO GET THE
PETITION. IT IS VERY EASY TO GET THE PETITION.
IT IS VERY EASY TO GET THE PETITION. OUR WEB SITE IS ILFAIRMAP.COM.
PETITION. OUR WEB SITE IS ILFAIRMAP.COM. ANYONE CAN GO TO THE WEB SITE
OUR WEB SITE IS ILFAIRMAP.COM. ANYONE CAN GO TO THE WEB SITE AND DOWNLOAD THE PETITION FOR
ANYONE CAN GO TO THE WEB SITE AND DOWNLOAD THE PETITION FOR THEIR ELECTION JURISDICTION.
AND DOWNLOAD THE PETITION FOR THEIR ELECTION JURISDICTION. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT PEOPLE ONLY
THEIR ELECTION JURISDICTION. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT PEOPLE ONLY CIRCULATE THE PETITION FOR THE
IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT PEOPLE ONLY CIRCULATE THE PETITION FOR THE ELECTION JURISDICTION WHERE THE
CIRCULATE THE PETITION FOR THE ELECTION JURISDICTION WHERE THE VOTERS ARE REGISTERED.
ELECTION JURISDICTION WHERE THE VOTERS ARE REGISTERED. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IN PEORIA, YOU
VOTERS ARE REGISTERED. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IN PEORIA, YOU DON'T HAVE AN ELECTION AUTHORITY
SO, FOR INSTANCE, IN PEORIA, YOU DON'T HAVE AN ELECTION AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY OF PEORIA OR DO
DON'T HAVE AN ELECTION AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY OF PEORIA OR DO YOU?
FOR THE CITY OF PEORIA OR DO YOU? >> YES, WE DO.
YOU? >> YES, WE DO. >>I AM SORRY. PEORIA IS ONE OF
>> YES, WE DO. >>I AM SORRY. PEORIA IS ONE OF FEW PLACES IN THE STATE.
>>I AM SORRY. PEORIA IS ONE OF FEW PLACES IN THE STATE. >> ONE IN BLOOMINGTON AS WELL.
FEW PLACES IN THE STATE. >> ONE IN BLOOMINGTON AS WELL. >>AND BLOOMINGTON IS ONE, RIGHT.
>> ONE IN BLOOMINGTON AS WELL. >>AND BLOOMINGTON IS ONE, RIGHT. PEORIA AND BLOOMINGTON, IN THE
>>AND BLOOMINGTON IS ONE, RIGHT. PEORIA AND BLOOMINGTON, IN THE CITY, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE
PEORIA AND BLOOMINGTON, IN THE CITY, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITIES HAVE TO SIGN THE CITY
CITY, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITIES HAVE TO SIGN THE CITY PETITION.
CITIES HAVE TO SIGN THE CITY PETITION. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE REST
PETITION. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE REST OF THE COUNTY HAVE TO SIGN THE
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE REST OF THE COUNTY HAVE TO SIGN THE COUNTY PETITION.
OF THE COUNTY HAVE TO SIGN THE COUNTY PETITION. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT
COUNTY PETITION. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. IF YOU SIGN THE
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. IF YOU SIGN THE WRONG PETITION, YOUR SIGNATURE
DISTINCTION. IF YOU SIGN THE WRONG PETITION, YOUR SIGNATURE WON'T BE COUNTED.
WRONG PETITION, YOUR SIGNATURE WON'T BE COUNTED. THERE IS A THRESHOLD OF A NUMBER
WON'T BE COUNTED. THERE IS A THRESHOLD OF A NUMBER OF SIGNATURES AND A DEADLINE?
THERE IS A THRESHOLD OF A NUMBER OF SIGNATURES AND A DEADLINE? WE NEED 282,000 VALID SIGNATURES
OF SIGNATURES AND A DEADLINE? WE NEED 282,000 VALID SIGNATURES TO BE FILED WITH THE SECRETARY
WE NEED 282,000 VALID SIGNATURES TO BE FILED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE BY MAY 2.
TO BE FILED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE BY MAY 2. BUT OUR GOAL IS 500,000
OF STATE BY MAY 2. BUT OUR GOAL IS 500,000 SIGNATURES BECAUSE WE BELIEVE
BUT OUR GOAL IS 500,000 SIGNATURES BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT OUR PETITIONS WILL BE
SIGNATURES BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT OUR PETITIONS WILL BE CHALLENGED, AND WE WANT TO MAKE
THAT OUR PETITIONS WILL BE CHALLENGED, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OF A
CHALLENGED, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OF A CUSHION TO WITH STAND ANY
SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OF A CUSHION TO WITH STAND ANY CHALLENGES THAT ARE BROUGHT
CUSHION TO WITH STAND ANY CHALLENGES THAT ARE BROUGHT AGAINST OUR PETITION DRIVE.
CHALLENGES THAT ARE BROUGHT AGAINST OUR PETITION DRIVE. >>IN PREPARING TO DISCUSS ABOUT
AGAINST OUR PETITION DRIVE. >>IN PREPARING TO DISCUSS ABOUT WHAT THE FORM WOULD BE FOR THIS
>>IN PREPARING TO DISCUSS ABOUT WHAT THE FORM WOULD BE FOR THIS NEW PROCESS, LET'S TAKE A LOOK
WHAT THE FORM WOULD BE FOR THIS NEW PROCESS, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT A MAP HERE IN JUST A MOMENT
NEW PROCESS, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT A MAP HERE IN JUST A MOMENT OF WHAT SOME OF THE DISTRICTS
AT A MAP HERE IN JUST A MOMENT OF WHAT SOME OF THE DISTRICTS CURRENTLY LOOK LIKE IN THE STATE
OF WHAT SOME OF THE DISTRICTS CURRENTLY LOOK LIKE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
CURRENTLY LOOK LIKE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE DIS, NOT
OF ILLINOIS. THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE DIS, NOT CONGRESSIONAL.
THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE DIS, NOT CONGRESSIONAL. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THEM THAT
CONGRESSIONAL. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THEM THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THEM THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE. >>THE TOP ONE IS SENATE DISTRICT
ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE. >>THE TOP ONE IS SENATE DISTRICT 38.
>>THE TOP ONE IS SENATE DISTRICT 38. THE YOU VIEWERS CAN SEE THAT IT
38. THE YOU VIEWERS CAN SEE THAT IT HAS AN INTERESTING TAIL ON THE
THE YOU VIEWERS CAN SEE THAT IT HAS AN INTERESTING TAIL ON THE END OF IT.
HAS AN INTERESTING TAIL ON THE END OF IT. THE REASON THAT THAT TAIL WAS
END OF IT. THE REASON THAT THAT TAIL WAS DRAWN INTO THAT DISTRICT WAS
THE REASON THAT THAT TAIL WAS DRAWN INTO THAT DISTRICT WAS BECAUSE THE INCUMBENT, FIANCE'S
DRAWN INTO THAT DISTRICT WAS BECAUSE THE INCUMBENT, FIANCE'S RESIDENCE WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF
BECAUSE THE INCUMBENT, FIANCE'S RESIDENCE WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TAIL.
RESIDENCE WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TAIL. >>WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE
THE TAIL. >>WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE DISTRICT ON THE RIGHT, THE
>>WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE DISTRICT ON THE RIGHT, THE LITTLE TAIL, LITERALLY IS COMING
DISTRICT ON THE RIGHT, THE LITTLE TAIL, LITERALLY IS COMING OFF THE FAR RIGHT.
LITTLE TAIL, LITERALLY IS COMING OFF THE FAR RIGHT. >>CIRCLED IN THE PINK?
OFF THE FAR RIGHT. >>CIRCLED IN THE PINK? >> CORRECT.
>>CIRCLED IN THE PINK? >> CORRECT. >>YELLOW ONE GOES FROM THE ST.
>> CORRECT. >>YELLOW ONE GOES FROM THE ST. LOUIS AREA ON UP.
>>YELLOW ONE GOES FROM THE ST. LOUIS AREA ON UP. THAT'S SENATE DISTRICT 51.
LOUIS AREA ON UP. THAT'S SENATE DISTRICT 51. WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY THREW
THAT'S SENATE DISTRICT 51. WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY THREW THROUGH FOUR INCUMBANTS INTO ONE
WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY THREW THROUGH FOUR INCUMBANTS INTO ONE DISTRICT AND FORMER SENATE DUANE
THROUGH FOUR INCUMBANTS INTO ONE DISTRICT AND FORMER SENATE DUANE NOLAND, WHO IS ONE OF OUR BEST
DISTRICT AND FORMER SENATE DUANE NOLAND, WHO IS ONE OF OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST ENDED UP RETIRING
NOLAND, WHO IS ONE OF OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST ENDED UP RETIRING OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BECAUSE
AND BRIGHTEST ENDED UP RETIRING OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT MAP WAS DALLMAN
OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT MAP WAS DALLMAN POWER PLANT.
OF THE WAY THAT MAP WAS DALLMAN POWER PLANT. OTHER THING ABOUT 51, THERE IS
POWER PLANT. OTHER THING ABOUT 51, THERE IS THE COMMUNITY OF EFFINGHAM THAT
OTHER THING ABOUT 51, THERE IS THE COMMUNITY OF EFFINGHAM THAT HAS THREE DIFFERENT ILLINOIS
THE COMMUNITY OF EFFINGHAM THAT HAS THREE DIFFERENT ILLINOIS SENATORS THAT REPRESENT THAT
HAS THREE DIFFERENT ILLINOIS SENATORS THAT REPRESENT THAT SMALL COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE
SENATORS THAT REPRESENT THAT SMALL COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THESE MAPS ARE DRAWN.
SMALL COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THESE MAPS ARE DRAWN. >>SO THAT'S ONE CHANGE THAT I
WAY THESE MAPS ARE DRAWN. >>SO THAT'S ONE CHANGE THAT I KNOW OF IS THAT IT IS GOING TO
>>SO THAT'S ONE CHANGE THAT I KNOW OF IS THAT IT IS GOING TO RESPECT TO THE DEGREE POSSIBLE,
KNOW OF IS THAT IT IS GOING TO RESPECT TO THE DEGREE POSSIBLE, COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES IN THE
RESPECT TO THE DEGREE POSSIBLE, COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES IN THE PROPOSAL?
COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES IN THE PROPOSAL? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
PROPOSAL? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. NO MORE SPLITTING UP OF SMALL
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. NO MORE SPLITTING UP OF SMALL CITY LIKE -- I THINK I BELIEVE
NO MORE SPLITTING UP OF SMALL CITY LIKE -- I THINK I BELIEVE THEIR POPULATION IS 34,000.
CITY LIKE -- I THINK I BELIEVE THEIR POPULATION IS 34,000. COMMUNITIES LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN
THEIR POPULATION IS 34,000. COMMUNITIES LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN SPLIT UP FOR PURELY POLITICAL
COMMUNITIES LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN SPLIT UP FOR PURELY POLITICAL REASONS TO VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE
SPLIT UP FOR PURELY POLITICAL REASONS TO VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE THE REELECTION OF FAVORED
REASONS TO VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE THE REELECTION OF FAVORED INCUMBANTS AND TO MAXIMIZE THE
THE REELECTION OF FAVORED INCUMBANTS AND TO MAXIMIZE THE POLITICAL POWER OF ONE PARTY OR
INCUMBANTS AND TO MAXIMIZE THE POLITICAL POWER OF ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER.
POLITICAL POWER OF ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER. AND I DO WANT TO SAY ABOUT THESE
THE OTHER. AND I DO WANT TO SAY ABOUT THESE TWO DISTRICTS.
AND I DO WANT TO SAY ABOUT THESE TWO DISTRICTS. THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE TWO
TWO DISTRICTS. THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE TWO EXAMPLES FROM THE LAST TIME THE
THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE TWO EXAMPLES FROM THE LAST TIME THE MAP WAS DONE.
EXAMPLES FROM THE LAST TIME THE MAP WAS DONE. IT JUST SO HAPPENED THE DEPUTIES
MAP WAS DONE. IT JUST SO HAPPENED THE DEPUTIES HAD THE POWER TO DRAW THE MAP IN
IT JUST SO HAPPENED THE DEPUTIES HAD THE POWER TO DRAW THE MAP IN 2001.
HAD THE POWER TO DRAW THE MAP IN 2001. BUT IN 1991, IT WAS THE
2001. BUT IN 1991, IT WAS THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAD THE POWER TO
BUT IN 1991, IT WAS THE REPUBLICANS WHO HAD THE POWER TO DRAW THE MAP, AND THEY DIDN'T
REPUBLICANS WHO HAD THE POWER TO DRAW THE MAP, AND THEY DIDN'T BEHAVE ANY BETTER THAN THE
DRAW THE MAP, AND THEY DIDN'T BEHAVE ANY BETTER THAN THE DEMOCRATS DID.
BEHAVE ANY BETTER THAN THE DEMOCRATS DID. (LAUGHING) SO THIS REALLY --
DEMOCRATS DID. (LAUGHING) SO THIS REALLY -- THIS ISN'T A PARTISAN ISSUE?
(LAUGHING) SO THIS REALLY -- THIS ISN'T A PARTISAN ISSUE? >> NO, NOT AT ALL.
THIS ISN'T A PARTISAN ISSUE? >> NO, NOT AT ALL. MY FAVORITE QUOTE FROM AN
>> NO, NOT AT ALL. MY FAVORITE QUOTE FROM AN INCUMBENT LEGISLATOR ON THE
MY FAVORITE QUOTE FROM AN INCUMBENT LEGISLATOR ON THE SUBJECT CAME FROM SENATOR DALE
INCUMBENT LEGISLATOR ON THE SUBJECT CAME FROM SENATOR DALE RIGHTER WHO IS THE REPUBLICAN
SUBJECT CAME FROM SENATOR DALE RIGHTER WHO IS THE REPUBLICAN SPOKESPERSON ON THE
RIGHTER WHO IS THE REPUBLICAN SPOKESPERSON ON THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE.
SPOKESPERSON ON THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. AT ONE OF THE HEARINGS HE
REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. AT ONE OF THE HEARINGS HE ACTUALLY SAID "COULD WE ALL HAVE
AT ONE OF THE HEARINGS HE ACTUALLY SAID "COULD WE ALL HAVE A MOMENT OF CONFESSION AND ADMIT
ACTUALLY SAID "COULD WE ALL HAVE A MOMENT OF CONFESSION AND ADMIT THAT BOTH OF OUR PARTIES HAVE
A MOMENT OF CONFESSION AND ADMIT THAT BOTH OF OUR PARTIES HAVE DONE THIS."
THAT BOTH OF OUR PARTIES HAVE DONE THIS." SO IT IS REALLY BEEN -- AS I
DONE THIS." SO IT IS REALLY BEEN -- AS I SAID, IT IS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
SO IT IS REALLY BEEN -- AS I SAID, IT IS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BAD BEHAVIOR, ON THE PART OF
SAID, IT IS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BAD BEHAVIOR, ON THE PART OF BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES, AND IT
BAD BEHAVIOR, ON THE PART OF BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES, AND IT HAS NOT SERVED THE PEOPLE OF
BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES, AND IT HAS NOT SERVED THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS WELL.
HAS NOT SERVED THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS WELL. AS YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO PAYS
ILLINOIS WELL. AS YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO PAYS ATTENTION TO STATE ISSUES KNOWS
AS YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO PAYS ATTENTION TO STATE ISSUES KNOWS OUR STATE IS ABOUT TO BE DRIVEN
ATTENTION TO STATE ISSUES KNOWS OUR STATE IS ABOUT TO BE DRIVEN OFF A CLIFF, AND THERE IS NOT
OUR STATE IS ABOUT TO BE DRIVEN OFF A CLIFF, AND THERE IS NOT ONE PERSON IN THE GENERAL
OFF A CLIFF, AND THERE IS NOT ONE PERSON IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHO HASN'T UNDERSTOOD
ONE PERSON IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHO HASN'T UNDERSTOOD THAT FOR SOME TIME, AND, YET,
ASSEMBLY WHO HASN'T UNDERSTOOD THAT FOR SOME TIME, AND, YET, HERE WE ARE.
THAT FOR SOME TIME, AND, YET, HERE WE ARE. NONE OF THE STATES SERIOUS
HERE WE ARE. NONE OF THE STATES SERIOUS PROBLEMS ARE ADDRESSED, AND WE
NONE OF THE STATES SERIOUS PROBLEMS ARE ADDRESSED, AND WE DON'T SEE ANY INDICATION THAT
PROBLEMS ARE ADDRESSED, AND WE DON'T SEE ANY INDICATION THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED
DON'T SEE ANY INDICATION THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED ANY TIME SOON.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED ANY TIME SOON. AND, AS I SAID EARLIER, THE
ANY TIME SOON. AND, AS I SAID EARLIER, THE BIGGEST REASON FOR THAT IS IT
AND, AS I SAID EARLIER, THE BIGGEST REASON FOR THAT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BAD A JOB
BIGGEST REASON FOR THAT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BAD A JOB INCUMBANTS DO.
DOESN'T MATTER HOW BAD A JOB INCUMBANTS DO. THEIR REELECTIONS ARE VIRTUALLY
INCUMBANTS DO. THEIR REELECTIONS ARE VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED BECAUSE THE DISTRICTS
THEIR REELECTIONS ARE VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED BECAUSE THE DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN TO VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE
GUARANTEED BECAUSE THE DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN TO VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE THEIR REELECTION.
ARE DRAWN TO VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE THEIR REELECTION. >>SO COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES ARE
THEIR REELECTION. >>SO COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES ARE GOING TO BE RESPECTED, AND THERE
>>SO COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES ARE GOING TO BE RESPECTED, AND THERE IS THIS DE NESTING.
GOING TO BE RESPECTED, AND THERE IS THIS DE NESTING. WHAT -- THAT'S THE HOUSE VERSUS
IS THIS DE NESTING. WHAT -- THAT'S THE HOUSE VERSUS THE SENATE?
WHAT -- THAT'S THE HOUSE VERSUS THE SENATE? >> RIGHT NOW THE WAY THE MAPS
THE SENATE? >> RIGHT NOW THE WAY THE MAPS ARE DRAWN, TWO HOUSE DISTRICTS
>> RIGHT NOW THE WAY THE MAPS ARE DRAWN, TWO HOUSE DISTRICTS HAVE TO FIT WITHIN A SENATE
ARE DRAWN, TWO HOUSE DISTRICTS HAVE TO FIT WITHIN A SENATE DISTRICT.
HAVE TO FIT WITHIN A SENATE DISTRICT. WHAT OUR PROCESS WOULD BE WOULD
DISTRICT. WHAT OUR PROCESS WOULD BE WOULD BE TO DENEST THE HOUSE AND
WHAT OUR PROCESS WOULD BE WOULD BE TO DENEST THE HOUSE AND SENATE DISTRICT SO THERE WOULD
BE TO DENEST THE HOUSE AND SENATE DISTRICT SO THERE WOULD BE A SENATE MAP AND A HOUSE MAP
SENATE DISTRICT SO THERE WOULD BE A SENATE MAP AND A HOUSE MAP THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY
BE A SENATE MAP AND A HOUSE MAP THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.
THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO TRY TO FIT
INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO TRY TO FIT TWO HOUSE DISTRICTS INTO ONE
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO TRY TO FIT TWO HOUSE DISTRICTS INTO ONE SENATE DISTRICT.
TWO HOUSE DISTRICTS INTO ONE SENATE DISTRICT. THE OTHER IMPORTANT POINTS OF
SENATE DISTRICT. THE OTHER IMPORTANT POINTS OF OUR PLAN, H, ARE THAT WE WANT TO
THE OTHER IMPORTANT POINTS OF OUR PLAN, H, ARE THAT WE WANT TO TURN THE PROCESS OVER TO AN
OUR PLAN, H, ARE THAT WE WANT TO TURN THE PROCESS OVER TO AN INDEPENDENT BIPARTISAN
TURN THE PROCESS OVER TO AN INDEPENDENT BIPARTISAN COMMISSION AS THE FIRST STEP IN
INDEPENDENT BIPARTISAN COMMISSION AS THE FIRST STEP IN DRAWING THE MAPS WITH TOTAL
COMMISSION AS THE FIRST STEP IN DRAWING THE MAPS WITH TOTAL TRANSPARENCY, WITH PUBLIC INPUT,
DRAWING THE MAPS WITH TOTAL TRANSPARENCY, WITH PUBLIC INPUT, AND, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE
TRANSPARENCY, WITH PUBLIC INPUT, AND, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE
AND, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT SYSTEM.
TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT SYSTEM. >>SO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WOULD
CURRENT SYSTEM. >>SO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WOULD HAVE -- THEY WOULDN'T EVEN START
>>SO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WOULD HAVE -- THEY WOULDN'T EVEN START WITH THIS MAP PROCESS UNDER YOUR
HAVE -- THEY WOULDN'T EVEN START WITH THIS MAP PROCESS UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL?
WITH THIS MAP PROCESS UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL? >> YES, UNDER OUR PROPOSAL, NOT
PROPOSAL? >> YES, UNDER OUR PROPOSAL, NOT ONLY WOULD THEY NOT START WITH
>> YES, UNDER OUR PROPOSAL, NOT ONLY WOULD THEY NOT START WITH THE PROCESS, THERE IS NO POINT
ONLY WOULD THEY NOT START WITH THE PROCESS, THERE IS NO POINT IN OUR PROCESS WHEN THE MEMBERS
THE PROCESS, THERE IS NO POINT IN OUR PROCESS WHEN THE MEMBERS OR THE LEADERS OF THE GENERAL
IN OUR PROCESS WHEN THE MEMBERS OR THE LEADERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WOULD BE DRAWING THE
OR THE LEADERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WOULD BE DRAWING THE DISTRICTS.
ASSEMBLY WOULD BE DRAWING THE DISTRICTS. THE LEADERS WOULD APPOINT THE
DISTRICTS. THE LEADERS WOULD APPOINT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT
THE LEADERS WOULD APPOINT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT THEY ARE VERY RESTRICTED.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT THEY ARE VERY RESTRICTED. YOU CANNOT APPOINT CURRENT
THEY ARE VERY RESTRICTED. YOU CANNOT APPOINT CURRENT LEGISLATOR OS OR LOBBYISTS OR
YOU CANNOT APPOINT CURRENT LEGISLATOR OS OR LOBBYISTS OR STATE EMPLOYEES OR CONTRACTORS.
LEGISLATOR OS OR LOBBYISTS OR STATE EMPLOYEES OR CONTRACTORS. AND THE HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS
STATE EMPLOYEES OR CONTRACTORS. AND THE HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THAT PART OF THE PROCESS IS,
AND THE HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THAT PART OF THE PROCESS IS, THOSE EIGHT PARTISAN MEMBERS,
OF THAT PART OF THE PROCESS IS, THOSE EIGHT PARTISAN MEMBERS, THE FOUR REPUBLICANS AND FOUR
THOSE EIGHT PARTISAN MEMBERS, THE FOUR REPUBLICANS AND FOUR DEMOCRATS, MUST AGREE ON THE
THE FOUR REPUBLICANS AND FOUR DEMOCRATS, MUST AGREE ON THE NINTH PERSON WHO THEN
DEMOCRATS, MUST AGREE ON THE NINTH PERSON WHO THEN ESSENTIALLY BECOMES THE TIE
NINTH PERSON WHO THEN ESSENTIALLY BECOMES THE TIE BREAKER.
ESSENTIALLY BECOMES THE TIE BREAKER. NO MORE PULLING THE NAME OF ONE
BREAKER. NO MORE PULLING THE NAME OF ONE PARTISAN PERSON OR ANOTHER OUT
NO MORE PULLING THE NAME OF ONE PARTISAN PERSON OR ANOTHER OUT OF THE HAT SO THAT THE WINNER
PARTISAN PERSON OR ANOTHER OUT OF THE HAT SO THAT THE WINNER TAKES ALL.
OF THE HAT SO THAT THE WINNER TAKES ALL. THERE IS NO WINNER TAKE ALL
TAKES ALL. THERE IS NO WINNER TAKE ALL POSSIBILITY IN OUR CONSTRUCTION
THERE IS NO WINNER TAKE ALL POSSIBILITY IN OUR CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMISSION.
POSSIBILITY IN OUR CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMISSION. THEY MUST COME TO BIPARTISAN
OF THE COMMISSION. THEY MUST COME TO BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT.
THEY MUST COME TO BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT. THEY ALSO HAVE TO STRICTLY
AGREEMENT. THEY ALSO HAVE TO STRICTLY FOLLOW THE CRITERIA WE HAVE LAID
THEY ALSO HAVE TO STRICTLY FOLLOW THE CRITERIA WE HAVE LAID OUT BECAUSE THOSE CRITERIA THEN
FOLLOW THE CRITERIA WE HAVE LAID OUT BECAUSE THOSE CRITERIA THEN WOULD BE IN THE STATE
OUT BECAUSE THOSE CRITERIA THEN WOULD BE IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION.
WOULD BE IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION. MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS WOULD BE
CONSTITUTION. MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS WOULD BE PROTECTED.
MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS WOULD BE PROTECTED. MUNICIPAL AND OTHER GEOGRAPHIC
PROTECTED. MUNICIPAL AND OTHER GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES WOULD BE RESPECTED,
MUNICIPAL AND OTHER GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES WOULD BE RESPECTED, AND THERE WOULD BE NO DRAWING OF
BOUNDARIES WOULD BE RESPECTED, AND THERE WOULD BE NO DRAWING OF DISTRICTS TO PROTECT INCUMBANTS
AND THERE WOULD BE NO DRAWING OF DISTRICTS TO PROTECT INCUMBANTS OR TO ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE
DISTRICTS TO PROTECT INCUMBANTS OR TO ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER.
OR TO ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER. >>WOULD THE GOVERNOR HAVE A ROLE
ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER. >>WOULD THE GOVERNOR HAVE A ROLE UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL?
>>WOULD THE GOVERNOR HAVE A ROLE UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL? >> NO, THE GOVERNOR WOULD HAVE
UNDER YOUR PROPOSAL? >> NO, THE GOVERNOR WOULD HAVE NO ROLE.
>> NO, THE GOVERNOR WOULD HAVE NO ROLE. >>NONE WHATSOEVER.
NO ROLE. >>NONE WHATSOEVER. >>NO.
>>NONE WHATSOEVER. >>NO. >>NOT APPOINTING ANYBODY?
>>NO. >>NOT APPOINTING ANYBODY? >> NO ROLE WHATSOEVER.
>>NOT APPOINTING ANYBODY? >> NO ROLE WHATSOEVER. >>AND THE DEMOCRATIC -- THE
>> NO ROLE WHATSOEVER. >>AND THE DEMOCRATIC -- THE DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T PUT A PROPOSAL
>>AND THE DEMOCRATIC -- THE DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T PUT A PROPOSAL FORWARD, THE SENATE DEMOCRATS.
DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T PUT A PROPOSAL FORWARD, THE SENATE DEMOCRATS. THERE IS ONE AT THE TIME OF THIS
FORWARD, THE SENATE DEMOCRATS. THERE IS ONE AT THE TIME OF THIS TAPING, THEY HAVE NOT.
THERE IS ONE AT THE TIME OF THIS TAPING, THEY HAVE NOT. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THEY
TAPING, THEY HAVE NOT. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THEY WOULD PUT ONE FORWARD, IT ALSO
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THEY WOULD PUT ONE FORWARD, IT ALSO WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE
WOULD PUT ONE FORWARD, IT ALSO WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN THE FORM OF A
WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN THE FORM OF A REFERENDUM.
PUBLIC IN THE FORM OF A REFERENDUM. WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY PASS
REFERENDUM. WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY PASS SOMETHING IN THE LEGISLATURE,
WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY PASS SOMETHING IN THE LEGISLATURE, AND IT GOES ON THE BALLOT, AND
SOMETHING IN THE LEGISLATURE, AND IT GOES ON THE BALLOT, AND YOUR PETITIONS ARE ALSO
AND IT GOES ON THE BALLOT, AND YOUR PETITIONS ARE ALSO APPROVED, DO YOU HAVE TWO
YOUR PETITIONS ARE ALSO APPROVED, DO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMPETING?
APPROVED, DO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMPETING? >> THERE IS A VERY, VERY SLIGHT
DIFFERENT COMPETING? >> THERE IS A VERY, VERY SLIGHT POSSIBILITY OF THAT, H.
>> THERE IS A VERY, VERY SLIGHT POSSIBILITY OF THAT, H. BUT WE REALLY ARE VERY SKEPTICAL
POSSIBILITY OF THAT, H. BUT WE REALLY ARE VERY SKEPTICAL THAT ANY LEGISLATIVE
BUT WE REALLY ARE VERY SKEPTICAL THAT ANY LEGISLATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT WILL
THAT ANY LEGISLATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT WILL PASS THIS SPRING.
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT WILL PASS THIS SPRING. WE BELIEVE THAT THE FAIR MAP
PASS THIS SPRING. WE BELIEVE THAT THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT WILL BE THE ONLY
WE BELIEVE THAT THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT WILL BE THE ONLY REDISTRICTING AMENDMENT THAT
AMENDMENT WILL BE THE ONLY REDISTRICTING AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT ON
REDISTRICTING AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT ON NOVEMBER 2.
WILL BE ON THE BALLOT ON NOVEMBER 2. >>LET ME TALK ABOUT THE SENATE
NOVEMBER 2. >>LET ME TALK ABOUT THE SENATE IDEAS.
>>LET ME TALK ABOUT THE SENATE IDEAS. THEY PUT FORWARD SOME IDEAS.
IDEAS. THEY PUT FORWARD SOME IDEAS. ONE OF THEM IS THAT -- THEY WANT
THEY PUT FORWARD SOME IDEAS. ONE OF THEM IS THAT -- THEY WANT TO ABOLISH A TIE BREAKER, AND
ONE OF THEM IS THAT -- THEY WANT TO ABOLISH A TIE BREAKER, AND THEY WOULD O DO THAT BY
TO ABOLISH A TIE BREAKER, AND THEY WOULD O DO THAT BY APPOINTING THE CHIEF JUSTICE AND
THEY WOULD O DO THAT BY APPOINTING THE CHIEF JUSTICE AND JUSTICE OF THE OPPOSITE PARTY
APPOINTING THE CHIEF JUSTICE AND JUSTICE OF THE OPPOSITE PARTY FROM THE SUPREME COURT, THEY
JUSTICE OF THE OPPOSITE PARTY FROM THE SUPREME COURT, THEY WOULD SELECT A SPECIAL MASTER,
FROM THE SUPREME COURT, THEY WOULD SELECT A SPECIAL MASTER, AS THEY CALL IT.
WOULD SELECT A SPECIAL MASTER, AS THEY CALL IT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?
AS THEY CALL IT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? >> THEY ACTUALLY GOT THAT FROM
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? >> THEY ACTUALLY GOT THAT FROM OUR PLAN.
>> THEY ACTUALLY GOT THAT FROM OUR PLAN. THAT'S THE LAST STEP IN THE FAIR
OUR PLAN. THAT'S THE LAST STEP IN THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT PLAN.
THAT'S THE LAST STEP IN THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT PLAN. SO WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT,
MAP AMENDMENT PLAN. SO WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT, THAT PART OF THE PLAN.
SO WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT, THAT PART OF THE PLAN. AND THEY HAVE ALSO ADDED A LOT
THAT PART OF THE PLAN. AND THEY HAVE ALSO ADDED A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IN THEIR PLAN
AND THEY HAVE ALSO ADDED A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IN THEIR PLAN AGAIN TAKING IT FROM OUR PLAN.
OF TRANSPARENCY IN THEIR PLAN AGAIN TAKING IT FROM OUR PLAN. THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROGRESS
AGAIN TAKING IT FROM OUR PLAN. THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROGRESS FROM WHERE WE WERE AT LAST FALL
THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROGRESS FROM WHERE WE WERE AT LAST FALL TO WHERE WE ARE AT ON MARCH 15.
FROM WHERE WE WERE AT LAST FALL TO WHERE WE ARE AT ON MARCH 15. BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT
TO WHERE WE ARE AT ON MARCH 15. BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES FROM THE FAIR MAP
BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES FROM THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT AND WHAT THEY ARE
DIFFERENCES FROM THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT AND WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.
AMENDMENT AND WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. THEY WANT THE LEGISLATORS TO
PROPOSING. THEY WANT THE LEGISLATORS TO STILL HAVE FIRST CRACK AT
THEY WANT THE LEGISLATORS TO STILL HAVE FIRST CRACK AT DRAWING THE MAPS.
STILL HAVE FIRST CRACK AT DRAWING THE MAPS. >>YES, THAT'S IN HERE.
DRAWING THE MAPS. >>YES, THAT'S IN HERE. >>THEY WANT A 60% APPROVAL OF
>>YES, THAT'S IN HERE. >>THEY WANT A 60% APPROVAL OF THE MAPS RATHER THAN A
>>THEY WANT A 60% APPROVAL OF THE MAPS RATHER THAN A TWO-THIRDS BIPARTISAN APPROVAL
THE MAPS RATHER THAN A TWO-THIRDS BIPARTISAN APPROVAL OF THE MAPS, AND THEY ALSO DON'T
TWO-THIRDS BIPARTISAN APPROVAL OF THE MAPS, AND THEY ALSO DON'T WANT TO PROHIBIT THE MAP DRAWERS
OF THE MAPS, AND THEY ALSO DON'T WANT TO PROHIBIT THE MAP DRAWERS FROM LOOKING AT POLITICAL VOTING
WANT TO PROHIBIT THE MAP DRAWERS FROM LOOKING AT POLITICAL VOTING HISTORY WHICH IS REALLY HOW THEY
FROM LOOKING AT POLITICAL VOTING HISTORY WHICH IS REALLY HOW THEY COME UP WITH THESE CRAZY
HISTORY WHICH IS REALLY HOW THEY COME UP WITH THESE CRAZY DISTRICTS AND ALL OF THE CRAZY
COME UP WITH THESE CRAZY DISTRICTS AND ALL OF THE CRAZY LINES BY LOOKING AT VOTING
DISTRICTS AND ALL OF THE CRAZY LINES BY LOOKING AT VOTING HISTORY.
LINES BY LOOKING AT VOTING HISTORY. SO THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE
HISTORY. SO THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAIR MAP A HAD MEANT
SO THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAIR MAP A HAD MEANT AND WHAT THE SENATE DEMOCRATS
BETWEEN THE FAIR MAP A HAD MEANT AND WHAT THE SENATE DEMOCRATS ARE PROPOSING.
AND WHAT THE SENATE DEMOCRATS ARE PROPOSING. >>GO AHEAD.
ARE PROPOSING. >>GO AHEAD. >>I DO WANT TO SAY THAT -- AND I
>>GO AHEAD. >>I DO WANT TO SAY THAT -- AND I HAD SPOKEN WITH DEMOCRATS MANY
>>I DO WANT TO SAY THAT -- AND I HAD SPOKEN WITH DEMOCRATS MANY TIMES ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL.
HAD SPOKEN WITH DEMOCRATS MANY TIMES ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL. FROM WHAT THE LEAGUE SEES, THERE
TIMES ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL. FROM WHAT THE LEAGUE SEES, THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT
FROM WHAT THE LEAGUE SEES, THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE INCUMBENT MEMBERS OF THE
IS A BIG DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE INCUMBENT MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE THINK AND WHAT THE
THE INCUMBENT MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE THINK AND WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS SHOULD BE DONE.
LEGISLATURE THINK AND WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS SHOULD BE DONE. THE LEAGUE, YOU PROBABLY KNOW,
PUBLIC THINKS SHOULD BE DONE. THE LEAGUE, YOU PROBABLY KNOW, OR MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW.
THE LEAGUE, YOU PROBABLY KNOW, OR MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW. IT IS OUR 90TH BIRTHDAY.
OR MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW. IT IS OUR 90TH BIRTHDAY. I DID NOT KNOW.
IT IS OUR 90TH BIRTHDAY. I DID NOT KNOW. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LEAGUE.
I DID NOT KNOW. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LEAGUE. >>THANK YOU.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LEAGUE. >>THANK YOU. WE WERE FOUNDED BY THE SUFFRAGE,
>>THANK YOU. WE WERE FOUNDED BY THE SUFFRAGE, THE WOMEN WHO FOUGHT SO HARD TO
WE WERE FOUNDED BY THE SUFFRAGE, THE WOMEN WHO FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
THE WOMEN WHO FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE. WHEN THEY GOT WOMEN THE RIGHT TO
GET WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE. WHEN THEY GOT WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE, THEY FELT WOMEN NEEDED TO
WHEN THEY GOT WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE, THEY FELT WOMEN NEEDED TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE ISSUES OF
VOTE, THEY FELT WOMEN NEEDED TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE DAY. THAT'S REALLY BEEN OUR
BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE DAY. THAT'S REALLY BEEN OUR PURPOSE FOR 90 YEARS.
THE DAY. THAT'S REALLY BEEN OUR PURPOSE FOR 90 YEARS. NOW, OF COURSE, WE ARE PERFECTLY
PURPOSE FOR 90 YEARS. NOW, OF COURSE, WE ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO EDUCATE MENACE WELL
NOW, OF COURSE, WE ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO EDUCATE MENACE WELL ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE DAY.
HAPPY TO EDUCATE MENACE WELL ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE DAY. BUR THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE
ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE DAY. BUR THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE EXIST, REGISTER AND EDUCATE
BUR THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE EXIST, REGISTER AND EDUCATE VOTERS.
EXIST, REGISTER AND EDUCATE VOTERS. SINCE WE ARE SO USED TO
VOTERS. SINCE WE ARE SO USED TO EDUCATING VOTERS ON COMPLEX
SINCE WE ARE SO USED TO EDUCATING VOTERS ON COMPLEX ISSUES, WE REALLY THOUGHT
EDUCATING VOTERS ON COMPLEX ISSUES, WE REALLY THOUGHT GETTING THESE PETITIONS SIGNED
ISSUES, WE REALLY THOUGHT GETTING THESE PETITIONS SIGNED WAS GOING TO BE A DAUNTING TASK,
GETTING THESE PETITIONS SIGNED WAS GOING TO BE A DAUNTING TASK, EXPLAINING THIS TO THE PUBLIC.
WAS GOING TO BE A DAUNTING TASK, EXPLAINING THIS TO THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE BEEN STUNNED BY HOW EASY
EXPLAINING THIS TO THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE BEEN STUNNED BY HOW EASY IT IS.
WE HAVE BEEN STUNNED BY HOW EASY IT IS. OUR MEMBERS USE VARIOUS PITCHES,
IT IS. OUR MEMBERS USE VARIOUS PITCHES, WHATEVER THEY ARE MOST
OUR MEMBERS USE VARIOUS PITCHES, WHATEVER THEY ARE MOST COMFORTABLE SAYING, BUT IT IS
WHATEVER THEY ARE MOST COMFORTABLE SAYING, BUT IT IS SOME VERSION OF "HELLO, DID YOU
COMFORTABLE SAYING, BUT IT IS SOME VERSION OF "HELLO, DID YOU THOUGH THAT MEMBERS OF THE
SOME VERSION OF "HELLO, DID YOU THOUGH THAT MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DRAW THE
THOUGH THAT MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DRAW THE DISTRICTS FROM WHICH THEY RUN
GENERAL ASSEMBLY DRAW THE DISTRICTS FROM WHICH THEY RUN FOR REELECTION?"
DISTRICTS FROM WHICH THEY RUN FOR REELECTION?" VOTERS GO "WHAT!" MOST DIDN'T
FOR REELECTION?" VOTERS GO "WHAT!" MOST DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
VOTERS GO "WHAT!" MOST DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THEY CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
KNOW THAT. THEY CAN'T BELIEVE IT. THEY ARE A PAULED, AND THEN WE
THEY CAN'T BELIEVE IT. THEY ARE A PAULED, AND THEN WE GET TO THE SECOND SENTENCE WHICH
THEY ARE A PAULED, AND THEN WE GET TO THE SECOND SENTENCE WHICH IS SO "WOULD YOU SIGN THIS
GET TO THE SECOND SENTENCE WHICH IS SO "WOULD YOU SIGN THIS PETITION BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING
IS SO "WOULD YOU SIGN THIS PETITION BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO REFORM -- BEFORE WE CAN EVEN
PETITION BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO REFORM -- BEFORE WE CAN EVEN FINISH THE SENTENCE THEY ARE
TO REFORM -- BEFORE WE CAN EVEN FINISH THE SENTENCE THEY ARE LITERALLY GRAB BEING THE
FINISH THE SENTENCE THEY ARE LITERALLY GRAB BEING THE CLIPBOARD OUT OF OUR HANDS TO
LITERALLY GRAB BEING THE CLIPBOARD OUT OF OUR HANDS TO SIGN THE PETITION.
CLIPBOARD OUT OF OUR HANDS TO SIGN THE PETITION. >>THIS EXPERIENCE PUSHES ME TO
SIGN THE PETITION. >>THIS EXPERIENCE PUSHES ME TO ASK THE NEXT QUESTION OF ARE WE
>>THIS EXPERIENCE PUSHES ME TO ASK THE NEXT QUESTION OF ARE WE TO BLAME?
ASK THE NEXT QUESTION OF ARE WE TO BLAME? , WE, THE CITIZENS OF ILLINOIS,
TO BLAME? , WE, THE CITIZENS OF ILLINOIS, IF THAT'S THE TYPICAL RESPONSE?
, WE, THE CITIZENS OF ILLINOIS, IF THAT'S THE TYPICAL RESPONSE? MAYBE WE ARE GETTING EXACTLY
IF THAT'S THE TYPICAL RESPONSE? MAYBE WE ARE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT WE DESERVE.
MAYBE WE ARE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT WE DESERVE. >>I WOULD SAY THIS THERE ARE
WHAT WE DESERVE. >>I WOULD SAY THIS THERE ARE HUGE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS IN
>>I WOULD SAY THIS THERE ARE HUGE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS IN SPRINGFIELD, BUT I PERSONALLY
HUGE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS IN SPRINGFIELD, BUT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN
SPRINGFIELD, BUT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS IS APATHY.
BELIEVE THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS IS APATHY. YOU HEAR PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT
THE STATE OF ILLINOIS IS APATHY. YOU HEAR PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT SPRINGFIELD OR WASHINGTON D.C.
YOU HEAR PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT SPRINGFIELD OR WASHINGTON D.C. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY
SPRINGFIELD OR WASHINGTON D.C. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY REGISTERED VOTER IN THE STATE OF
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY REGISTERED VOTER IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS CAN DO TO TURN ILLINOIS
REGISTERED VOTER IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS CAN DO TO TURN ILLINOIS BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
ILLINOIS CAN DO TO TURN ILLINOIS BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THEY JUST NEED TO SIGN A
BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THEY JUST NEED TO SIGN A PETITION.
THEY JUST NEED TO SIGN A PETITION. THEY NEED TO PASS A PETITION.
PETITION. THEY NEED TO PASS A PETITION. THEY NEED TO GET ACTIVATED.
THEY NEED TO PASS A PETITION. THEY NEED TO GET ACTIVATED. THEY NEED TO STOP COMPLAINING,
THEY NEED TO GET ACTIVATED. THEY NEED TO STOP COMPLAINING, AND THEY NEED TO START DOING
THEY NEED TO STOP COMPLAINING, AND THEY NEED TO START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND THEY NEED TO START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AGAIN, I AM GOING TO GIVE THE
SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AGAIN, I AM GOING TO GIVE THE WEB SITE ONE MORE TIME.
AGAIN, I AM GOING TO GIVE THE WEB SITE ONE MORE TIME. ILFAIRMAP.COM.
WEB SITE ONE MORE TIME. ILFAIRMAP.COM. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD PETITIONS.
ILFAIRMAP.COM. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD PETITIONS. YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE
YOU CAN DOWNLOAD PETITIONS. YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION,
YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION, H, AT LEAST 15% OF REGISTERED
VOTED IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION, H, AT LEAST 15% OF REGISTERED VOTERS BUT 8% OF AGE ELIGIBLE
H, AT LEAST 15% OF REGISTERED VOTERS BUT 8% OF AGE ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
VOTERS BUT 8% OF AGE ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. LOOK WHO WE PICKED FOR SOME OF
VOTERS IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. LOOK WHO WE PICKED FOR SOME OF OUR CANDIDATES.
LOOK WHO WE PICKED FOR SOME OF OUR CANDIDATES. THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS NEED TO
OUR CANDIDATES. THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS NEED TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
THE PEOPLE OF ILLINOIS NEED TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. THE ONLY WAY WE WILL GET IT
TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. THE ONLY WAY WE WILL GET IT TURNED AROUND IS IF PEOPLE
THE ONLY WAY WE WILL GET IT TURNED AROUND IS IF PEOPLE GOTTEN GAUGED.
TURNED AROUND IS IF PEOPLE GOTTEN GAUGED. >>AND BRAD IS RIGHT.
GOTTEN GAUGED. >>AND BRAD IS RIGHT. THIS IS THE EASIEST THING THAT
>>AND BRAD IS RIGHT. THIS IS THE EASIEST THING THAT EVERY REGISTERED VOTER CAN DO TO
THIS IS THE EASIEST THING THAT EVERY REGISTERED VOTER CAN DO TO ACTUALLY GET US A RESPONSIBLE
EVERY REGISTERED VOTER CAN DO TO ACTUALLY GET US A RESPONSIBLE STATE GOVERNMENT.
ACTUALLY GET US A RESPONSIBLE STATE GOVERNMENT. >>ALONG THE SIMILAR LINES, LET
STATE GOVERNMENT. >>ALONG THE SIMILAR LINES, LET ME READ FROM, THIS IS A NEWS
>>ALONG THE SIMILAR LINES, LET ME READ FROM, THIS IS A NEWS RELEASE FROM THE SENATE
ME READ FROM, THIS IS A NEWS RELEASE FROM THE SENATE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE.
RELEASE FROM THE SENATE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS IS
REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS IS "ALLOW EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE
ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS IS "ALLOW EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MAP DRAWING PROCESS."
"ALLOW EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MAP DRAWING PROCESS." I WILL READ VERBATIM.
IN THE MAP DRAWING PROCESS." I WILL READ VERBATIM. SENATE DEMOCRATS PROPOSAL WOULD
I WILL READ VERBATIM. SENATE DEMOCRATS PROPOSAL WOULD HAD SHARE ALL DATA FROM STATE
SENATE DEMOCRATS PROPOSAL WOULD HAD SHARE ALL DATA FROM STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND ALLOW
HAD SHARE ALL DATA FROM STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR OWN MAP
BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR OWN MAP PLANS WHILE LEADERS CROSS AND
PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR OWN MAP PLANS WHILE LEADERS CROSS AND RADOGNO, THEIR PLAN WOULD
PLANS WHILE LEADERS CROSS AND RADOGNO, THEIR PLAN WOULD EXCLUDE ILLINOISIANS FROM THE
RADOGNO, THEIR PLAN WOULD EXCLUDE ILLINOISIANS FROM THE PROCESS, SENATE DEMOCRATS WANT
EXCLUDE ILLINOISIANS FROM THE PROCESS, SENATE DEMOCRATS WANT TO ADOPT A PLAN WHICH GETS
PROCESS, SENATE DEMOCRATS WANT TO ADOPT A PLAN WHICH GETS EVERYONE INVOLVED.
TO ADOPT A PLAN WHICH GETS EVERYONE INVOLVED. I DON'T KNOW WHO EVERY ONE IS
EVERYONE INVOLVED. I DON'T KNOW WHO EVERY ONE IS AND I DON'T KNOW HOT PEOPLE ARE
I DON'T KNOW WHO EVERY ONE IS AND I DON'T KNOW HOT PEOPLE ARE THAT CAN HAVE INPUT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOT PEOPLE ARE THAT CAN HAVE INPUT. >>THAT IS INACCURATE, H.
THAT CAN HAVE INPUT. >>THAT IS INACCURATE, H. OUR PROCESS NOT ONLY HAS
>>THAT IS INACCURATE, H. OUR PROCESS NOT ONLY HAS COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY, BUT EVERY
OUR PROCESS NOT ONLY HAS COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY, BUT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THE PUBLIC HAS
COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY, BUT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THE PUBLIC HAS THE ABILITY TO GIVE INPUT, TO
STEP OF THE WAY THE PUBLIC HAS THE ABILITY TO GIVE INPUT, TO GIVE THEIR OWN MAPS.
THE ABILITY TO GIVE INPUT, TO GIVE THEIR OWN MAPS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO MENTION THE
GIVE THEIR OWN MAPS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO MENTION THE JOYCE FOUNDATION.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO MENTION THE JOYCE FOUNDATION. >>OH, YES, THE JOYCE FOUNDATION.
JOYCE FOUNDATION. >>OH, YES, THE JOYCE FOUNDATION. THEY HAVE FUNDED DEVELOPMENT OF
>>OH, YES, THE JOYCE FOUNDATION. THEY HAVE FUNDED DEVELOPMENT OF SOFTWARE AND WEB SITE WHICH WILL
THEY HAVE FUNDED DEVELOPMENT OF SOFTWARE AND WEB SITE WHICH WILL BE YOU HAVE BEEN FAIRLY SOON AND
SOFTWARE AND WEB SITE WHICH WILL BE YOU HAVE BEEN FAIRLY SOON AND WILL HAVE THE NEW CENSUS DATA AS
BE YOU HAVE BEEN FAIRLY SOON AND WILL HAVE THE NEW CENSUS DATA AS SOON AS IT IS AVAILABLE.
WILL HAVE THE NEW CENSUS DATA AS SOON AS IT IS AVAILABLE. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CAN SIGN ON
SOON AS IT IS AVAILABLE. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CAN SIGN ON TO THE WEB SITE AND DRAW A MAP
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CAN SIGN ON TO THE WEB SITE AND DRAW A MAP TO BE SUBMITTED FOR
TO THE WEB SITE AND DRAW A MAP TO BE SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION.
TO BE SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION. >> I DON'T THINK I WANT TO TAKE
CONSIDERATION. >> I DON'T THINK I WANT TO TAKE ON THAT TASK.
>> I DON'T THINK I WANT TO TAKE ON THAT TASK. THANK YOU! (LAUGHING).
ON THAT TASK. THANK YOU! (LAUGHING). >>THANK YOU.
THANK YOU! (LAUGHING). >>THANK YOU. >>OTHERS WILL.
>>THANK YOU. >>OTHERS WILL. >>FEEL FREE! (LAUGHING) I DON'T
>>OTHERS WILL. >>FEEL FREE! (LAUGHING) I DON'T THINK I WANT TO EVEN GO THERE!
>>FEEL FREE! (LAUGHING) I DON'T THINK I WANT TO EVEN GO THERE! SO LET'S ASSUME THAT YOU GET
THINK I WANT TO EVEN GO THERE! SO LET'S ASSUME THAT YOU GET 282,000 SIGNATURES THAT ARE
SO LET'S ASSUME THAT YOU GET 282,000 SIGNATURES THAT ARE VALID.
282,000 SIGNATURES THAT ARE VALID. YOU WITH STAND ANY CHALLENGE
VALID. YOU WITH STAND ANY CHALLENGE THAT MIGHT COMFORT.
YOU WITH STAND ANY CHALLENGE THAT MIGHT COMFORT. IT GOES ON THE, WHAT IS THERE ON
THAT MIGHT COMFORT. IT GOES ON THE, WHAT IS THERE ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER 2.
IT GOES ON THE, WHAT IS THERE ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER 2. >>THREE-FIFTHS OF THOSE VOTING
THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER 2. >>THREE-FIFTHS OF THOSE VOTING UNQUIET OR MAJORITY VOTEING IN
>>THREE-FIFTHS OF THOSE VOTING UNQUIET OR MAJORITY VOTEING IN THE ELECTION.
UNQUIET OR MAJORITY VOTEING IN THE ELECTION. >>EITHER OR THIS.
THE ELECTION. >>EITHER OR THIS. >>EITHER OR.
>>EITHER OR THIS. >>EITHER OR. >>LETS ASSUME THOSE THRESHOLDS
>>EITHER OR. >>LETS ASSUME THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE EXCEEDED.
>>LETS ASSUME THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE EXCEEDED. THEN WHAT IS THE TIMETABLE, WHAT
ARE EXCEEDED. THEN WHAT IS THE TIMETABLE, WHAT HAPPENS?
THEN WHAT IS THE TIMETABLE, WHAT HAPPENS? >> WELL, IT WOULD BE IMMEDIATE.
HAPPENS? >> WELL, IT WOULD BE IMMEDIATE. THIS WOULD BECOME PART OF THE
>> WELL, IT WOULD BE IMMEDIATE. THIS WOULD BECOME PART OF THE ILLINOIS CONSTITUTION SO THAT
THIS WOULD BECOME PART OF THE ILLINOIS CONSTITUTION SO THAT WHEN THE 2010 CENSUS DATA COMES
ILLINOIS CONSTITUTION SO THAT WHEN THE 2010 CENSUS DATA COMES FORWARD, THEN THE FAIR MAP
WHEN THE 2010 CENSUS DATA COMES FORWARD, THEN THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT PROCESS IS WHAT WOULD
FORWARD, THEN THE FAIR MAP AMENDMENT PROCESS IS WHAT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IMPLEMENTED.
AMENDMENT PROCESS IS WHAT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IMPLEMENTED. >> WITH THAT, WE HAVE RUN OUT OF
BE AUTOMATICALLY IMPLEMENTED. >> WITH THAT, WE HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME.
>> WITH THAT, WE HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
TIME. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. JAN CZARNIK WHO IS EXECUTIVE
US. JAN CZARNIK WHO IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ILLINOIS LEAGUE
JAN CZARNIK WHO IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ILLINOIS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.
DIRECTOR OF THE ILLINOIS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. >>MY PLEASURE.
OF WOMEN VOTERS. >>MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN FROM
>>MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN FROM THE SOUTHWEST SUBURBS OF
THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN FROM THE SOUTHWEST SUBURBS OF CHICAGO.
THE SOUTHWEST SUBURBS OF CHICAGO. >>YES.
CHICAGO. >>YES. THANK YOU.
>>YES. THANK YOU. >>AND BRAD McMILLAN WHO IS A
THANK YOU. >>AND BRAD McMILLAN WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE ILLINOIS REFORM
>>AND BRAD McMILLAN WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE ILLINOIS REFORM COMMISSION AND ALSO BRADLEY
MEMBER OF THE ILLINOIS REFORM COMMISSION AND ALSO BRADLEY UNIVERSITY WITH THE INSTITUTE
COMMISSION AND ALSO BRADLEY UNIVERSITY WITH THE INSTITUTE FOR PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP AND
UNIVERSITY WITH THE INSTITUTE FOR PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
FOR PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP AND PUBLIC SERVICE. AND WE REMIND YOU ONCE AGAIN WE
PUBLIC SERVICE. AND WE REMIND YOU ONCE AGAIN WE DID INVITE THE SENATE DEMOCRATS
AND WE REMIND YOU ONCE AGAIN WE DID INVITE THE SENATE DEMOCRATS TO JOIN US HERE ON AT ISSUE, AND
DID INVITE THE SENATE DEMOCRATS TO JOIN US HERE ON AT ISSUE, AND BECAUSE OF CONFLICTS IN
TO JOIN US HERE ON AT ISSUE, AND BECAUSE OF CONFLICTS IN SCHEDULES, THEY CHOSE NOT TO
BECAUSE OF CONFLICTS IN SCHEDULES, THEY CHOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE.
SCHEDULES, THEY CHOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE. WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON
PARTICIPATE. WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON "AT ISSUE.
WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON "AT ISSUE. "REQUESTING I AM H. WAYNE
"AT ISSUE. "REQUESTING I AM H. WAYNE WILSON.
"REQUESTING I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. JOIN US NEXT WEEK FOR ANOTHER
WILSON. JOIN US NEXT WEEK FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF "AT ISSUE."