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- DO YOU HAVE A SHIRT THAT HAS ALL THE LABELS ON IT?
- YOU HAVE 485 PAIRS OF BLACK SHOES.
- BUT THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THIS.
I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE RENT CHECK IN ONE AFTERNOON
WITHOUT BLINKING AN EYE.
- THIS IS MY FASHION VISION BOARD--
EVERYTHING I MUST HAVE.
OH, MY GOD, THIS IS THE BEST EVER.
- THE LUXURIES HAVE TO STOP.
- IT'S NOT A LUXURY. IT'S A NECESSITY.
- IF NATELA DOESN'T STOP HER SHOPPING,
I DON'T THINK WE CAN BE TOGETHER ANYMORE.
- I SHOP WITH CASH. I SECRETLY FEEL LIKE I'M RICH.
- YOU'RE GONNA BE THROWN OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT.
AND THEN GUESS WHAT.
ALL THIS CRAP IS GONNA BE IN MY SMALL STUDIO.
I ALREADY HAVE HALF OF YOUR CRAP IN MY CLOSET RIGHT NOW.
- "EVICTION NOTICE."
THIS ISN'T JUST, "HEY, YOU'RE LATE."
THIS IS, "GET OUT."
- I SIMPLY WANT YOU TO CHOOSE--
THE BIRKIN OR THE BOYFRIEND?
- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS DRESS?
- I LIKE IT. IT'S CUTE. - YEAH?
MY NAME IS NATELA.
AND MY METHOD OF SHOPPING IS GET EVERYTHING
THAT I THINK I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT.
YOU DON'T EVEN NEED A BOTTOM TO THIS TOP.
I WAS BORN IN ST. PETERSBURG, RUSSIA,
AND TWO YEARS AGO, I MOVED TO LOS ANGELES.
DO YOU HAVE A SHIRT THAT HAS ALL THE LABELS ON IT?
I'M ADDICTED TO ALL HIGH-END LABELS.
- WHAT ARE YOU GETTING?
- ARMANI PRIVE AND VERSACE COUTURE.
- SHOPPING WITH NATELA IS...
I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY WORDS FOR IT, HONESTLY.
EVERYTHING NEEDS TO HAVE A BRAND NAME.
- I HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN DOLCE & GABBANA.
- IF IT'S NOT A BRAND NAME, SHE'S NOT GONNA WEAR IT.
- OOH, THAT I ACTUALLY LOVE. - LOOK AT THE SLEEVES.
- THAT'S, LIKE, CLASSY, BUT THEN RUSSIAN ON THE BOTTOM.
RUSSIANS LOVE COLORS, FEATHERS, SEQUINS,
DIAMONDS, AND LABELS ALL IN ONE OUTFIT,
AND WE ARE FIERCE DOING IT.
SO I STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, ENGAGEMENT RING.
- WITH JAMES?
- WELL, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN, LIKE, CLOSE TO TWO YEARS.
JAMES IS MY BOYFRIEND.
IT WAS DEFINITELY LOVE AT THE FIRST SIGHT.
EVERYTHING THAT ANY GIRL, UM, KIND OF IS LOOKING FOR,
THAT'S WHAT HE IS.
- DOES JAMES KNOW YOU'RE SHOPPING TODAY?
- Uh...
MAYBE.
- YOU DIDN'T TELL HIM?
- HE TOLD ME, LIKE, I'M FORBIDDEN TO GO IN ANY STORES.
- WHEN I FIRST MET NATELA,
I JUST INSTANTLY WAS ATTRACTED TO HER STRAIGHTAWAY.
BUT I GUESS I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE
UNTIL WE DID START GOING SHOPPING--
"OKAY, I'VE GOT A PROPER SHOPAHOLIC ON MY HANDS."
IT'S LIKE THERE'S NO STANDING IN HER WAY.
SHE WILL GET IT SOMEHOW,
EVEN IF IT MEANS GOING INTO A LOT OF DEBT.
- OKAY, YOUR TOTAL'S $967.88.
- WOMAN... - OH, MY GOD.
- JAMES IS GONNA KILL YOU.
- I DO MODELING AND TV HOSTING.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INSTABILITY IN OUR LIVES.
I CAN'T SUPPORT TWO PEOPLE IN A RELATIONSHIP RIGHT NOW.
EVERY SINGLE DAY, I WAKE UP,
AND WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT WHAT SHE WANTS, IT CONCERNS ME,
BECAUSE I'M IN A POSITION WHERE I CAN'T PROVIDE IT FREELY.
- SEE YOU SAME TIME TOMORROW. OH, MY GOD, LET'S GO TO CHANEL.
- MY NAME IS DR. RAMANI DURVASULA,
AND I'M A LICENSED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST.
FOR OVER TEN YEARS, I'VE WORKED WITH HUNDREDS OF PATIENTS
WITH ADDICTIVE DISORDERS, INCLUDING SHOPAHOLICS.
AFTER REVIEWING THE CASE FILE ON NATELA,
IT'S APPARENT THAT HER SHOPPING ADDICTION
IS FUELED BY HER OBSESSION WITH LABELS.
SHE FALSELY BELIEVES THAT HAVING THE RIGHT DESIGNER ITEMS
WILL GIVE HER A PICTURE-PERFECT LIFE.
GROWING UP IN RUSSIA,
NATELA WAS GIVEN WHATEVER SHE WANTED BY HER PARENTS,
WHO WERE SUCCESSFUL LAWYERS.
BUT SHE WANTED TO MAKE IT ON HER OWN IN THE UNITED STATES,
AND NO LONGER HAS ACCESS TO THEIR MONEY.
AS A STUDENT HOLDING MULTIPLE PART-TIME JOBS
WITH A VERY SMALL INCOME,
NATELA FACES A CRISIS.
HER BOYFRIEND, JAMES, CAN'T PROVIDE HER
WITH THE SAME LUXURIES THAT SHE IS ACCUSTOMED TO,
AND IT IS DRIVING A WEDGE IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
IF I CAN'T HELP NATELA CONTROL
HER CRUSHING APPETITE FOR LABELS,
HER RELATIONSHIP WITH JAMES IS OVER.
- LET'S GO IN HERE, RIGHT? - YEAH, EVERYTHING'S HALF OFF.
MY NAME IS JUDYANN. I'M 33 YEARS OLD.
I LOVE SHOPPING,
BECAUSE SHOPPING MAKES ME FEEL GOOD ABOUT MYSELF.
OH, HOLD THE PHONE. I DIDN'T SEE YOU HAD BOOTS.
- I WILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE 485 PAIRS OF BLACK SHOES.
- YEAH, BUT THEY DON'T ALL LOOK LIKE THIS.
SHOPPING ERASES EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON
FOR ME THAT'S WRONG.
WHEN I WANT TO GET AWAY AND I WANT TO BE HAPPY,
SHOPPING DOES THAT FOR ME.
- THAT TANK TOP IS $19.99.
AND THIS HAT-- I DON'T KNOW--
I THINK IT'S $12.99.
SO WE'LL JUST SUBTRACT ALL THESE THINGS
FROM THE $1 MILLION YOU OWE ME. HOW DOES THAT SOUND?
JUDYANN STARTED BORROWING MONEY FROM ME
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE MET.
WE'RE REACHING ABOUT 5K NOW.
SO, UH, IT'S STARTING TO ADD UP.
- THE PARIS TANK TOP WORKS, TOO, BY THE WAY.
- OF COURSE IT DOES.
REMEMBER THE TIME THAT WE WERE IN PARIS
AND YOU MAXED OUT ALL YOUR CREDIT CARS ON BOOTS?
- [laughs] OH, MY GOD.
I HAVE THREE OR FOUR OTHER BIG CREDIT CARDS
THAT I FELL BEHIND.
THEY'RE ALL MAXED OUT.
I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE RENT CHECK
IN ONE AFTERNOON WITHOUT BLINKING AN EYE.
I'M PAYING CASH. - GREAT.
- I HAD A GOOD NIGHT THE OTHER NIGHT.
- GOOD FOR YOU.
- I WORK AS A SERVER
IN A VERY HIGH-END SUSHI RESTAURANT.
I SHOP WITH CASH.
WITH THE JOB THAT I HAVE, I MAKE CASH MONEY,
SO I SECRETLY FEEL LIKE I'M RICH.
- MY NAME IS DR. DAVID TOLIN.
I'M BOARD CERTIFIED IN CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY,
AND I'VE BEEN TREATING COMPULSIVE DISORDERS,
INCLUDING SHOPPING ADDICTIONS, FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
AS I REVIEW JUDYANN'S CASE FILE,
IT LOOKS LIKE HER SHOPPING ADDICTION
IS FUELED BY THE EMOTIONAL GRATIFICATION
THAT SHE GETS JUST FROM PURCHASING CLOTHES.
SHE'S A SHOPPING ADDICT. HER MOM WAS A SHOPPING ADDICT.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE JUDYANN PICKED UP ON SOME OF THAT BEHAVIOR.
SHE WAS ESSENTIALLY TAUGHT
TO COPE WITH HER EMOTIONAL ISSUES BY SHOPPING.
JUDYANN HAS NEVER REALLY GROWN UP,
AND AT 33 YEARS OLD,
SHE HASN'T LEARNED FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.
SHE OWES THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY,
AND SHE'S NARROWLY ESCAPED EVICTION
FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS.
JUDYANN WORKS AS A WAITRESS,
AND SHE EARNS REGULAR CASH TIPS,
WHICH LEAVES HER VULNERABLE TO THE TEMPTATIONS OF SHOPPING.
MY GOAL IS TO TEACH JUDYANN HOW TO DEVELOP IMPULSE CONTROL,
OR ELSE SHE'S GOING TO FIND HERSELF
IN A HOLE OF DEBT THAT SHE CAN'T CLIMB OUT OF
AND WITHOUT A PLACE TO LIVE.
- SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS
THAT I JUST MUST SHOW YOU.
THIS ONE IS LOUIS VUITTON URSULA.
IT'S VALUED AT $3,000.
THE THING ABOUT THIS BAG IS THE EXCLUSIVITY.
NOBODY HAS THIS BAG.
THIS ONE IS THE MOST EXCLUSIVE DRESS THAT I HAVE.
THIS ONE WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR ME
BY NICHOLAS PALM, AND THIS IS ONE-OF-A-KIND DRESS.
SO NOW WE'LL GO TO MY SHOES.
THESE ARE JIMMY CHOO, AND THEY WERE $1,100.
THESE WERE JUST UNDER $300.
ROCK & REPUBLIC-- THESE WERE, LIKE, $500.
I HAVE NEVER WORN THESE SHOES IN MY LIFE.
OF COURSE, MY MOST FAVORITE SHOES IN THE WORLD
ARE MY LOUBOUTINS.
CHRISTIAN LOUBOUTIN SHOES ARE--
OH, MY GOD-- EXCLUSIVITY.
SO NOW I FEEL LIKE I KIND OF BELONG TO THAT CLUB.
THIS IS MY SUPER-DUPER FASHION VISION BOARD--
WHAT I WANT AND NEED IN MY LIFE
BECAUSE THIS IS MY HAPPINESS.
THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT I MUST HAVE.
SOME OF THEM HAVE CHECKPOINTS.
MY MICHELE WATCH IS DONE,
AND MY LOUBOUTINS ARE DONE.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A RED SOLE IS,
I CAN'T EVEN TALK TO YOU.
THE BIRKINS ARE ON THE BOTTOM,
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THE LAST THING THAT I GET
BECAUSE OF THE PRICE POINT OF ABOUT $16,000.
FOR EVERYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT A BIRKIN BAG IS,
IT IS THE ULTIMATE STATUS SYMBOL.
BIRKIN IS JUST, RIGHT NOW, OUT OF THIS WORLD.
THERE'S NO BAG ABOVE THIS, SO I WANT IT.
PRADA, MOVADO, JIMMY CHOOS--
A LIST OF DESIGNERS TO CONCENTRATE ON.
AND THIS IS GREAT FOR JAMES,
BECAUSE HE CAN GET HIS INSPIRATIONS FOR SHOPPING.
"HMM, WHAT WOULD I WANT TO GET FOR NATELA?"
BAM, DIOR WATCH.
GROWING UP IN RUSSIA, MY FAMILY WAS REALLY WEALTHY.
MY MOTHER IS A SHOPAHOLIC EVER SINCE I CAN REMEMBER.
WE'RE GOING TO TRIPS A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR.
AND WE WERE SHOPPING, SHOPPING, AND SHOPPING.
I THINK I HAD EVERYTHING AND MORE
THAN ANY CHILD COULD EVER POSSIBLY THINK OF.
I HAD ACCESS TO EVERY LABEL,
AND, UH, THE ADDICTION, I THINK, BEGAN KIND OF THERE.
- BABE? - YEAH?
- WHAT ARE YOU DOING? - UH...JUST ORGANIZING.
- ME? YOU CRAZY? NO. - I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
I WANT HER TO JUST OPEN UP TO ME
AND JUST TELL ME WHAT SHE'S BEEN UP TO.
- I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING.
- YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY HIDING IT FROM ME,
'CAUSE YOU KNOW I GET ANNOYED BY IT.
- YOU KNOW HOW HAPPY IT MAKES ME.
- BABE, I JUST-- YOU KNOW, I'M WORRYING ABOUT US.
- I JUST WANT THAT EXCLUSIVITY.
I WANT, LIKE, STUFF THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS.
AND IT COMES WITH A PRICE.
- THE LUXURIES HAVE TO STOP.
- IT'S NOT A LUXURY. IT'S A NECESSITY.
- I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO OUTSIDE. I'M GONNA GET SOME FRESH AIR.
SHE'S AN AMAZING GIRL.
I LOVE HER TO PIECES, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT COME A TIME
WHERE I'M GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
IF NATELA DOESN'T STOP HER SHOPPING,
I DON'T THINK WE CAN BE TOGETHER ANYMORE.
- HERE IS MY CLOSET.
FOR EVERY FEMININE GIRL, THEY OWN A DRESS OR TWO...
OR THREE OR FIVE MILLION.
THESE ARE MY--ONE OF MY FAVORITE BETSEY JOHNSON HEELS.
THESE ARE MY BETSEY JOHNSON PURSES.
YELLOW AND BLACK POLKA DOTS AGAIN, SEE?
BEDAZZLE AGAIN. BETSEY.
IN MY WARDROBE, YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH BLACK BOOTS.
HEELED BOOTS, LACE-UPS.
I HAVE MORE BOOTS, BIG SURPRISE.
TAN BOOTS, EVERY DAY IN STYLE ANKLE BOOTS...
YEEHAW. [laughs]
IT DOESN'T END HERE. I HAVE ANOTHER CLOSET...
THAT I KEEP AT MY BEST FRIEND'S APARTMENT.
CLOSET NUMBER THREE, THE SECRET CLOSET.
JUST LIKE THIS JEAN JACKET-- I DON'T WEAR THAT ANYMORE.
I CONSTANTLY SWAP MY SHOES OUT,
JUST BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM
FOR SHOES IN MY CLOSETS.
- SOMETIMES I'M AT WORK AND I COME HOME,
AND I'VE GOT SIX NEW PAIRS OF SHOES ON MY SHELVES.
IT'S GETTING OLD.
- AS FAR AS THE TIPS THAT I MAKE EVERY WEEK,
I HAVE A LITTLE STASH FOR MY CASH.
I CALL IT THE FORBIDDEN BOX.
THE FORBIDDEN BOX BASICALLY ACTS
AS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR ME.
IT'S THE MONEY THAT I SHOULD USE
FOR ALL MY RESPONSIBLE BILLS, LIKE RENT.
OH, WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
HERE GOES MY EVICTION NOTICES THAT I TRY TO HIDE.
HERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PAY RENT WITHIN THE FIRST THREE DAYS.
SOMETIMES I'M PAYING ON THE 9TH.
SOMETIMES I'M PAYING ON THE 15TH.
AND YOU GET, LIKE, A THREE-DAY NOTICE ON YOUR DOOR.
AS FAR AS, LIKE, TOTAL BILLS,
MY MOM'S PROBABLY LENT ME CLOSE TO $1,000 A MONTH,
SO THAT'S $12,000 THERE.
I OWE THE CREDIT CARD PEOPLE MONEY, AND I OWE JUSTIN MONEY.
I OWE A LOT.
I FIRST STARTED SHOPPING WHEN I GOT MY FIRST JOB, ACTUALLY.
I GREW UP WITH A SHOPPER-- MY MOM.
EVERY TIME WE'D GO SHOPPING, I'D FOLLOW HER AROUND
AND SEE THAT SHE WOULD PURCHASE NUMEROUS THINGS,
AND I KIND OF FOLLOWED THAT.
I DIDN'T SPEND THAT MUCH.
- LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.
DO YOU HAVE RENT FOR-- FOR JUNE 1ST?
- NO, NOT YET. - OR FOR THE NEXT MONTH?
- NO.
- I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS NEW MANAGER
IS GOING TO BE AS COOL AS OUR LAST ONE WAS.
- WE HAVE A NEW LANDLORD.
AND HE PUT UP NOTICES ALL OVER THE BUILDING LIKE
"RENT MUST BE PAID ON THE 1ST."
AND I'M LIKE, "OOH, WHO PAYS RENT ON THE 1ST? HURR."
UM, NOT ME. [laughs]
I'M JUST AFRAID
THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE THROWN OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT,
AND THEN GUESS WHAT.
ALL OF THIS CRAP IS GONNA BE IN MY SMALL STUDIO.
I ALREADY HAVE HALF OF YOUR CRAP IN MY CLOSET RIGHT NOW.
IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR FAR TOO LONG,
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I'M AT MY WIT'S END WITH THE SITUATION.
I GOT TO RUN.
- "EVICTION NOTICE.
PAY RENT OR QUIT WITHIN THREE DAYS."
WOW.
- IF IT COMES A POINT
WHERE HER SHOPPING ADDICTION IS GONNA AFFECT MY FUTURE
WITH HAVING CHILDREN AND STUFF,
THAT'S A LINE I'M NOT WILLING TO CROSS.
- WHAT ARE YOU DOING? - UH, JUST ORGANIZING.
- I AM SURE THAT JAMES IS GETTING FRUSTRATED
WITH THE FINANCIAL SITUATION.
- THE LUXURIES HAVE TO STOP.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.
- [barking] - LOUIS.
SHH. HI. - HELLO!
- HOW ARE YOU? - I'M FINE.
- I'M NATELA. - NATELA, SO NICE TO MEET YOU.
I'M DR. RAMANI. - NICE TO MEET YOU AS WELL.
- SINCE ARRIVING IN THE UNITED STATES,
NATELA HAS SPENT MOST OF HER MONEY SHOPPING.
WITHOUT HER PARENTS' SUPPORT ANYMORE,
SHE'S RELYING ON HER BOYFRIEND, JAMES, TO PROVIDE FOR HER.
MY FIRST GOAL IS TO FIND OUT
HOW THIS IS AFFECTING THE RELATIONSHIP.
- I THINK MY BOYFRIEND IS VERY CONCERNED
THAT I WILL SPEND EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE
AND EVERYTHING THAT HE HAS, AND THEN WHAT?
- IT'S A REASONABLE QUESTION.
- DEFINITELY A REASONABLE QUESTION, YEAH.
- WHAT EVIDENCE DOES HE HAVE FOR BEING CONCERNED?
- WELL, HE FINDS THE BAGS, AND, LIKE, HE'S NOT STUPID.
- I WANT TO SEE THE STUFF THAT'S CAUSING THESE PROBLEMS.
- ALL RIGHT, ARE YOU READY? - I'M READY.
- I'LL SHOW YOU THE VISIONARY FASHION BOARD.
- AH, IT'S YOUR GOAL TO GET ALL OF THE THINGS ON THIS LIST?
- EVENTUALLY, YES. - OKAY.
- THAT WAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S CHRISTMAS,
MY BOYFRIEND CAN BE LIKE, "OOH, I CAN TAKE NUMBER 14.
YEAH, I CAN AFFORD THAT."
- HOW DO YOU THINK HE FEELS ABOUT THIS
HANGING IN HIS FACE EVERY SINGLE DAY?
- UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON HIM,
BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE-- I KNOW IT'S GONNA SOUND WEIRD--
BUT LIKE, IT'S A PART OF MY "RELIGION."
FOR ME, THAT'S MY BIBLE.
- NATELA LOOKS TO HER FASHION VISION BOARD
AS A BEACON TO GUIDE HER THROUGH HER LIFE.
I'VE GOT TO SHOW HER
THAT HER PRIORITIES ARE PRETTY MIXED UP.
- WHAT MATTERS TO ME IS THE DESIGNER STUFF,
'CAUSE I WANT TO HAVE EVERYTHING DESIGNER.
AND JAMES MADE THIS BIRTHDAY THE BEST BIRTHDAY
'CAUSE HE STUCK TO THE LIST
AND, UH, SURPRISED ME WITH CHRISTIAN LOUBOUTINS,
AND YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE COST.
- MAY I SEE THEM?
CAN YOU TAKE THEM OUT SO I CAN SEE THEM?
- THEY ARE RIGHT HERE. - SHOW ME THE RED BOTTOMS.
- AND HE DROVE FOR ABOUT
AN HOUR AND A HALF EACH WAY TO GET THEM.
BECAUSE, FOR ME, A GIFT IS WHAT IS ON MY LIST,
AND YOU ARE MAKING ME HAPPY.
- I CAN'T IMAGINE THE PRESSURE JAMES MUST FEEL
WHEN HE HAS TO LOOK AT NATELA'S VISION BOARD EVERY DAY.
BUT I'M ALSO NOTICING THAT THERE ARE
VERY FEW OF JAMES' THINGS AROUND THIS APARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY. AS YOU DO THIS,
I JUST ASSUMED THIS WAS JAMES' PART OF THE CLOSET.
I'M SEEING THAT--
- JAMES DOESN'T HAVE A PART OF THE CLOSET.
- YIKES.
YOU'RE TAKING OVER EVERYTHING.
WHERE DOES JAMES KEEP HIS CLOTHES
IF HE DOESN'T HAVE A CLOSET?
- SOME OF HIS STUFF IS IN THE SUITCASES.
- OOH.
- HE'S, LIKE, JOKING THAT HE'S GONNA LEAVE.
- I THINK HIS CLOTHES
BEING IN SUITCASES IS MORE THAN JUST CONVENIENCE.
THERE'S A BIT OF A METAPHOR THERE.
I THINK WE GOT TO ADDRESS THIS
BEFORE THOSE SUITCASES MARCH OUT THIS DOOR.
- MM, YEAH.
- HI. JUDYANN? - HI. YES.
- DR. DAVID TOLIN.
- HI. HOW ARE YOU? - HOW ARE YOU?
MY FIRST STEP WITH JUDYANN
IS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HER FINANCIAL SITUATION
AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND
WHY SHE'S BEEN ON THE VERGE OF EVICTION
FOR THREE MONTHS IN A ROW.
SO, JUDYANN, YOU HAVE A SHOPPING PROBLEM.
- YEAH. - OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY.
- I USED TO SHOP WITH CREDIT CARDS,
BUT I CAN'T ANYMORE. - MM. WHY CAN'T YOU?
- THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH MAXED OUT.
UM, THE KIND OF INDUSTRY THAT I'M IN
IS THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY,
AND I WORK ON, YOU KNOW, CASH TIPS.
- YEAH.
- WHEN I HAVE A GREAT NIGHT AT WORK,
I HAVE AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY--CASH--
AND THAT GIVES ME THE TENDENCY TO WANT TO SHOP.
- SO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT CASH?
- EVERY TIME I SEE THE CASH IN MY WALLET,
IT'S THE ILLUSION THAT I HAVE MONEY,
BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF CASH. - MM-HMM. MM-HMM.
- SO I UTILIZE IT TO SPEND.
- HOW ABOUT RENT?
- I HAVE THIS BOX. IT'S LIKE A FORBIDDEN BOX...
- MM-HMM.
- THAT I KEEP ALL MY CASH THAT I'VE EARNED.
BUT I END UP SPENDING IT,
WHEN, IN REALITY, IT SHOULD BE GOING TO RENT.
I HAVE BEEN LATE ON RENT.
- YOU'VE BEEN LATE WITH THE RENT.
- I HAVE.
- HAS THAT BEEN AN ISSUE FOR YOU?
HAS THAT CAUSED PROBLEMS? - YEAH.
WELL, I'VE HAD NOTICES-- THREE-DAY NOTICES.
- NOTICES?
"EVICTION NOTICE." - YEAH.
- "PAY RENT OR QUIT WITHIN THREE DAYS."
WOW. - YEAH.
- THEY'RE NOT KIDDING. - NO, THEY'RE NOT.
- THIS ISN'T JUST "HEY, YOU'RE LATE."
THIS IS, "GET OUT."
HOW MANY OF THESE DO YOU HAVE? - THREE.
- IT'S ALARMING THAT JUDYANN'S CREDIT CARDS ARE MAXED OUT.
SHE OWES MONEY TO HER FRIENDS AND HER FAMILY,
AND SHE'S TAKING CASH OUT OF HER SAVINGS BOX
THAT SHE SHOULD BE SETTING ASIDE FOR RENT.
OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, THE EXERCISES
THAT I HAVE PLANNED ARE DESIGNED TO HELP JUDYANN
UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS HER SHOPPING PROBLEM IS
AND TO HELP HER UNDERSTAND
THAT SHE NEEDS TO BECOME A MORE RESPONSIBLE ADULT.
- I WANT TO HEAR IN YOUR WORDS WHAT IS GOING ON.
- WELL, SHE JUST SPENDS TOO MUCH MONEY ON...
PRODUCTS THAT ARE JUST SO OVERLY PRICED.
- YES.
- IF IT COMES A POINT WHERE HER SHOPPING ADDICTION,
HER ADDICTION TO THESE EXPENSIVE--
RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE THINGS WHEN WE HAVEN'T GOT THE MONEY,
IS GOING TO AFFECT MY FUTURE
WITH, LIKE, HAVING CHILDREN AND STUFF,
YEAH, THAT'S A LINE I'M NOT WILLING TO CROSS.
- THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK OUT.
YOU COULD BE GETTING, LIKE, AN INCREDIBLE JOB,
THAT MILLION-DOLLAR JOB
THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE BILLS.
- JUST LIKE HER PARENTS INDULGED HER,
NATELA EXPECTS JAMES TO PROVIDE HER EVERYTHING SHE WANTS,
BECAUSE HER OWN INCOME ISN'T HIGH ENOUGH
TO AFFORD HER HIGH-END SPENDING HABITS.
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, I HAVE SOME EXERCISES PLANNED
THAT ARE DESIGNED TO HELP NATELA FIGURE OUT
WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO HER.
THIS WHOLE STRUCTURE'S GOING TO FALL APART QUICKLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW.
- SO WAIT, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO WALK OVER
TO MY APARTMENT AND MOVE ALL OF HER STUFF OUT OF IT?
- I THINK SO, YES.
- IT'S JUST HARD,
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE JAMES, YOU KNOW?
- WELL, I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO SEE.
- SHUT THE FRONT DOOR.
OH, MY GOD.
- IF THAT'S WHO SHE IS,
THEN I'M NOT GONNA FIGHT FOR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.
- WELCOME TO THE MALL. - ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE IN THE BEVERLY CENTER.
- [squealing] - GO RIGHT HERE,
AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
THE BEVERLY CENTER FEATURES
THE MOST EXCLUSIVE, HIGH-END STORES IN THE CITY.
- LOOK AT THOSE SHOES.
OH, MY GOD. LOOK AT THE ONES THAT ARE WITH THE BOW.
I BET THEY'RE, LIKE, $1,300.
OH, MY GOD, THEY EVEN HAVE,
LIKE, THE LOUIS VUITTON CARRY-ON.
- YOU NEED-- - I HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
OH, MY GOD, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
- IF EVER THERE IS A PLACE OF TEMPTATION
THAT NATELA IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESIST,
THIS IS IT.
- I LOVE THIS.
I'M SO GLAD WE'RE HERE. OH, MY GOD.
THIS IS THE BEST EVER!
IT'S THE GUCCI. IT'S THE PRADA.
OH, MY GOD. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE PRADA NOW HERE.
AND THEY HAVE FENDI.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW FENDI COLLECTION?
OH, MY GOD, YOU HAVE TO SEE IT.
- NATELA'S NERVOUS SYSTEM IS ON OVERDRIVE
SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE SET FOOT IN A MALL.
WE'RE HERE IN THE TEMPLE WITH ALL THESE STORES
THAT CLEARLY HAVE YOU WORKED UP, OKAY?
- KILLING ME RIGHT NOW.
- FOR THIS FIRST EXERCISE,
I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT HER BIGGEST TRIGGERS ARE
AND IF SHE CAN RESIST THEM.
I'M GONNA SIT HERE.
SHOW ME THAT YOU CAN BE HERE AND NOT SHOP.
YOU ARE CRUEL AND EVIL.
[gasps] OH, LOVE.
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY AWFUL TO WALK THROUGH THE MALL
AND NOT SHOP.
I WANT TO REALLY BUY SOMETHING,
BUT SHE'S GOING TO KILL ME IF I DO.
OH, MY GOD, KILL ME NOW.
EMBARRASSING. EMBARRASSING.
SEE? NOTHING. SEE? NOTHING.
DIDN'T BUY ANYTHING.
[gasps] OOH, TIFFANY'S.
HOW ARE YOU?
OH, MY GOD, THIS IS AMAZING.
- FOR NATELA, THE REAL TRIGGER IS THE HIGH-END STORES.
- OH, MY GOD, THIS IS SO PRETTY.
I GOT TO BREATHE.
- IT'S LIKE WATCHING A KID AT THE CIRCUS.
- [imitating crying]
- HOW'S IT GOING?
- I WENT INTO TIFFANY.
- TIFFANY-- WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
- IT WAS KIND OF REALLY HARD,
BECAUSE ALL THE ENGAGEMENT RINGS, YOU KNOW?
IT'S HARD, BECAUSE, LIKE...
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE JAMES, YOU KNOW?
AND, LIKE, I WANT TO HAVE A FUTURE WITH HIM.
AND I WANT THAT SO MUCH, YOU KNOW?
- YOU WANT WHAT?
- I WANT IT TO BE A TIFFANY'S RING.
IT'S JUST DIFFICULT.
I JUST NEED TO FIX THE MONEY PART.
- IS IT JUST ABOUT THE MONEY PART, THOUGH?
- YEAH, I DO FEEL THAT WAY, YOU KNOW.
- SHE'S CRYING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY
THAT SHE MAY NOT GET THE RING SHE WANTS.
I'M VERY CONCERNED
THAT THE HOLD THAT THESE LUXURY STORES
AND THESE LABELS HAVE OVER HER
IS FAR GREATER THAN THE HOLD THAT JAMES HAS OVER HER.
- JUDYANN'S FRIEND JUSTIN IS AT HIS WIT'S END.
HER CLOTHES HAVE TAKEN OVER HIS APARTMENT.
MY GOAL WITH THIS EXERCISE IS TO END THAT PATTERN
OF JUDYANN LEANING ON JUSTIN FOR HELP.
WHEN WE FIND SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN ADDICTION,
OFTEN WE FIND SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE PICTURE
WHO IS AN ENABLER.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT, INTENSE FRIENDSHIP.
I'M WONDERING WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE
FOR YOU TO KEEP USING JUSTIN AS A STORAGE SPACE.
- I WOULD LOVE IT IF I COULD HAVE MY OWN CLOSET.
RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT HER HIGH HEELS
IN THE BACK OF MY COUCH.
IT'S LIKE, "GET IT OUT."
JUDYANN'S JUST TAKING OVER MY SPACE.
I HAVE CLOTHES TOO.
I WANT TO HANG UP MY SHIRTS AND MY PANTS AS WELL.
- WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE TRY MAKING A LIMIT HERE,
SETTING A BOUNDARY,
AND SAYING THAT JUSTIN WILL BE YOUR FRIEND,
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE'S GOING TO BE YOUR ENABLER.
SO HE'S NOT GOING TO LOAN YOU MONEY FOR SHOPPING.
HE'S NOT GONNA STORE YOUR CLOTHES.
- ME AND JUSTIN'S RELATIONSHIP IS SO, SO AMAZING.
WE JUST COMPLETE EACH OTHER,
AND HE WOULD BE THE LAST PERSON I'D EVER WANT TO LOSE.
- ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO WALK OVER
TO MY APARTMENT AND MOVE ALL OF HER STUFF OUT OF IT?
- I THINK SO, YES.
- YOU LOVE THAT IDEA. - I LOVE IT.
- AS AN ADULT, JUDYANN NEEDS TO BECOME MORE RESPONSIBLE.
SHE'S GOING TO TAKE HER BELONGINGS
OUT OF JUSTIN'S APARTMENT ONCE AND FOR ALL.
- I LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS IS MY MANSION.
AND THAT'S THE WEST WING. THIS IS THE EAST WING.
[giggles] - RIGHT.
SO THAT'S YOURS, AND THIS IS YOURS TOO.
- YEAH. - OKAY.
- WHEN DR. TOLIN SUGGESTED
FOR ME TO REMOVE MY ITEMS OUT OF JUSTIN'S APARTMENT,
IT MADE ME REALLY THINK,
"LIKE, WOW, I'VE REALLY BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF JUSTIN."
I FELT LIKE I HAD A REALLY BIG PROBLEM,
LIKE, "WHY AM I STORING ALL MY [bleep] HERE?"
I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M DOING THIS. - WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE?
- IT FEELS LIKE I'M MOVING OUT.
- WELL, YOU KIND OF ARE. THAT'S IT?
- SO NOW HIS CLOSET AND SHELVES ARE JUDYANN-FREE.
- OKAY, JUSTIN, YOU HAVE YOUR SPACE BACK.
- YEAH. - ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS A GOOD START.
BUT SOME OF THE TOUGHER EXERCISES ARE STILL AHEAD.
TELL YOU WHAT--WHY DON'T WE PUT IT OVER ON THE BED HERE?
- YEAH.
- HELLO. - HI. HOW YOU DOING?
- HI, JAMES.
NATELA IS ADDICTED TO HIGH-END SHOPPING.
AT THE MALL, I SAW JUST HOW STRONG A GRIP
THESE BRANDS HAVE ON HER.
I REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SOME ONE-ON-ONE TIME WITH YOU,
BECAUSE DRASTIC PROBLEMS REQUIRE DRASTIC MEASURES.
- I-I WON'T CHANGE.
I DO, I WANT TO BE HAPPY. I WANT TO BE MYSELF.
- IMAGINE AT THIS MOMENT--
AT THIS MOMENT, YOU SAY TO HER, "YOU WANT TO BE WITH ME,
THE LABELS END."
AND SHE'S LIKE, "I'M OUT. I'M GOING TO--
"I'M GONNA GO FIND SOMEONE WITH MORE MONEY,
OR I'M GONNA MAKE MY OWN MONEY, WHATEVER."
- IF THAT'S WHAT SHE-- WHO SHE IS,
THEN I'M NOT GOING TO STAND IN HER WAY.
I'M NOT GONNA FIGHT FOR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.
- I HAVE AN EXERCISE PLANNED THAT WILL FORCE NATELA
TO REALIZE THAT SHE HAS TO MAKE A CHOICE BETWEEN JAMES
AND THE HIGH-END ITEMS THAT SHE IS SO OBSESSED WITH.
SHE NEEDS TO SEE WHAT LIFE WOULD BE LIKE WITHOUT JAMES,
SO I'M GOING TO ASK HIM TO MAKE GOOD ON HIS THREATS
AND ACTUALLY MOVE OUT.
- I MEAN, IT'S A SCARY THOUGHT. I'M NOT GONNA LIE.
- IT'S SCARY FOR THINGS TO STAY THE WAY THEY ARE.
- THAT'S ALSO TRUE AS WELL. - SO YOU'RE ON BOARD, RIGHT?
- YEAH, I MEAN, IF IT WILL HELP, YEAH.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT SOMETHING I WOULD DO NORMALLY.
THIS IS KIND OF-- PRETTY EXTREME.
- JAMES AGREED TO GO ALONG
WITH WHAT I'VE GOT PLANNED FOR MY NEXT EXERCISE,
AND NOW IT'S THE MOMENT OF TRUTH.
THERE'S A $16,000 BIRKIN BAG ON THE TABLE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL CHALLENGE FOR NATELA,
WHO ISN'T EXPECTING THIS AT ALL.
[door opens]
- HELLO. - OH, MY GOD.
- WELCOME HOME, DARLING. - VERY NICE TO SEE YOU, ALMOST.
- WELL, I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO SEE.
- YEAH. - OKAY, GO AHEAD.
WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THERE?
- OKAY.
HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT A HORSE HEAD,
BECAUSE I LOVE ANIMALS TOO MUCH. - OKAY.
DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A HORSE HEAD.
- SHUT THE FRONT DOOR.
SHUT...UP.
- TAKE IT OUT. TAKE IT OUT.
- OH, MY GOD.
OH, MY GOD!
OH, MY GOD. IT'S AN HERMES BIRKIN BAG.
HOLY [bleep].
I HAVE A MOMENT. WOW.
OH, MY GOD. IT SMELLS AMAZING.
[shudders happily]
- SHE IS SO WORKED UP, SO EXCITED.
THE LEVEL OF HER REACTION TO THIS PURSE
IS COMPLETELY DISPROPORTIONATE TO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
FLUSHED FACE, TEARING EYES, TREMBLING--
THAT'S TOO MUCH.
LET'S GO TAKE A LOOK IN THE CLOSET.
- OKAY. - ALL RIGHT?
- ALL HIS STUFF IS GONE.
SO YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON?
JAMES' BELONGINGS ARE GONE,
AND HIS SUITCASES ARE GONE,
AND THE PICTURES ARE GONE.
SO I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING FISHY GOING ON.
- JAMES IS GONE.
BUT YOU HAVE A BIRKIN. - YES.
- HE'S GONE FOR 24 HOURS WITH ALL HIS STUFF.
- OKAY. - OKAY?
BUT YOU GET THE BIRKIN FOR 24 HOURS.
THE GROUND RULES OF THIS EXERCISE
ARE THAT YOU CANNOT SEE JAMES FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
- OKAY.
- I REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE
TO HAVE THE BIRKIN, THE DREAM,
WITHOUT JAMES.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
HOW NATELA FEELS TOMORROW AFTER COMING DOWN
FROM THE HIGH OF HAVING HER BIRKIN BAG.
SOON, I'LL BE ASKING HER TO MAKE A TOUGH CHOICE.
- LET'S GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO LET GO OF.
- OH, THIS IS THE HARD PART.
- SMELL IT, DUDE.
- NO, I'M NOT GONNA SMELL A BAG. - SMELL IT.
IT SMELLS SO GOOD.
- I SIMPLY WANT YOU TO CHOOSE--
THE BIRKIN...
OR THE BOYFRIEND?
- DOLCE & GABBANA...
OH, MY GOD. I CAN JUST, LIKE--
JUST IMAGINE IF I HAD IT IN MY HOUSE.
IT'S JUST AMAZING.
- IT'S TWO LETTERS.
- AND THE BEST TWO LETTERS THAT YOU CAN COMBINE!
DOLCE & GABBANA.
- IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO LICK IT--YOU WANT TO EAT IT.
- I DO. I WANT TO ACTUALLY GRAB IT
AND TAKE--I ACTUALLY TRIED TO TAKE IT.
BUT IT'S, UH, WELL-MADE, AND, UH, IT'S STUCK,
SO I GUESS I'M GONNA KEEP IT HERE.
DOLCE & GABBANA!
- JUDYANN DOESN'T PAY HER RENT
BECAUSE SHE ROUTINELY DIPS INTO HER CASH SAVINGS
TO GO SHOPPING.
MY GOAL FOR THIS EXERCISE IS TO HELP JUDYANN
BECOME MINDFUL OF HER IMPULSES TO SPEND MONEY,
SO SHE CAN DEVELOP SKILLS TO FIGHT THOSE IMPULSES.
- HI.
WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO TRY ON, LET ME KNOW, OKAY?
- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - OKAY, THANK YOU.
- I'M GONNA BE WITH YOU,
AND I'M CARRYING THE FORBIDDEN BOX, ALL RIGHT?
- YEAH. - THIS IS YOUR MONEY.
THIS IS THE MONEY THAT YOU'VE INTENDED TO BE
PUT TOWARD RENT. - RENT, MM-HMM.
- NOW WHAT YOU DO IN HERE IS UP TO YOU.
THIS IS YOUR MONEY.
IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO BUY SOMETHING, THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE MONEY OUT OF HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO AS YOU'RE SHOPPING AROUND
IS I WANT YOU TO START PAYING ATTENTION
TO HOW THIS ENVIRONMENT IS AFFECTING YOU.
I'M GONNA HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT.
- OKAY. - THIS IS THE PULSE OXIMETER.
DO ME A FAVOR. PUT A FINGER IN THERE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GIVE IT A SECOND HERE.
THE PULSE READER IS GOING TO MEASURE
JUDYANN'S HEART RATE AS SHE SHOPS.
WHEN SOMEBODY HAS AN ADDICTION,
THEY TEND TO HAVE VERY STRONG IMPULSES.
BUT THEY DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THEM,
AND THAT MAKES IT HARD TO FIGHT THEM.
BY BECOMING MORE AWARE
OF THE BODILY SIGNALS THAT SHE'S EXPERIENCING,
JUDYANN IS GOING TO DEVELOP BETTER SKILLS
AT RESISTING THE BEHAVIOR THAT FOLLOWS.
ULTIMATELY, I HOPE JUDYANN CAN MAKE IT THROUGH THE STORE
WITHOUT SPENDING ANY OF THE MONEY IN HER CASH BOX.
- HOW MUCH IS THIS? - $18.
- DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE OF THAT COLOR?
[oximeter beeping] 103, HMM.
I DIDN'T SEE THIS.
IT'S CUTE. [oximeter beeps]
[gasps] OH, MY GOD.
131. HOLY CRAP.
- THE PULSE READER SHOWS US THAT WHEN JUDYANN IS SHOPPING,
HER HEART RATE IS THROUGH THE ROOF.
NOW, THAT PROBABLY MEANS SHE'S NOT THINKING CLEARLY.
AND SHE SHOULDN'T SPEND MONEY IN THAT STATE.
- I KIND OF WANT TO TRY THESE ON.
- YOU DO?
- THE ORIGINAL ONES THAT I PICKED UP.
- DID YOU NEED A SIZE IN THAT ONE?
- IN A SIZE EIGHT. - SIZE EIGHT? SURE.
- SHE'S GETTING INTO THAT SHOPPING ZONE,
BUT SHE IS CHECKING HER PULSE, AND I THINK THAT'S ENCOURAGING,
BECAUSE THAT MEANS SHE'S BECOMING MORE AWARE
OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO HER,
AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA MAKE HER STRONGER
AT RESISTING THE IMPULSES.
YOU SPIKED UP TO 105.
- I SAW THAT. I WAS LIKE, "OH, WOW."
- 106, 108.
HOW DO THEY FEEL?
- COMFORTABLE. AND THEY'RE REALLY CUTE.
- IS THAT A THRILL? - IT IS.
- YEAH.
I MEAN, YOUR PULSE IS REALLY ELEVATED HERE.
WE'RE AT 102, RIGHT?
A PAIR OF SHOES CAN DO THAT TO YOU.
- BUT IT'S JUST $25. - MM-HMM.
YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. - YOU KNOW?
I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE,
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU USED THAT RATIONALIZATION
ON YOURSELF?
- A LOT. - RIGHT.
ARE YOU READY TO REALLY MAKE A STAND HERE?
- TO LET THEM GO? - MM-HMM.
- YEAH.
- YEAH? YOU SURE? - YEAH.
I AM. - ALL RIGHT.
GOOD. - I'M GONNA LET IT GO.
- LET'S DO IT.
- PROUD OF ME? [laughs]
- VERY. NICE GOING.
- IT KIND OF TRIPPED ME OUT
THAT I GET PRETTY EXCITED WHEN IT COMES TO SHOPPING
JUST FOR DRESSES AND SHOES.
- JUST HOLDING THIS PINK BOX... - MM-HMM?
- IS LIKE HOLDING A BOX FULL OF GUILT.
IT'S LIKE, "DON'T TOUCH ME. YOU'RE SHOPPING."
- IT'S A REMINDER. - YEAH.
- SHE WAS ABLE TO RESIST THE IMPULSE.
THAT'S GREAT. SHE'S GAINING CONTROL.
SHE'S LEARNING HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS.
- HOW ARE YOU?
- I'M GOOD. - UH-OH.
- [laughs] - WHAT DID YOU DO?
- I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. LOOK WHAT I BROUGHT WITH ME.
RENEE IS MY SHOPPING BUDDY.
I JUST NEEDED SOMEBODY TO TALK TO,
'CAUSE I WAS KIND OF STUCK IN THE APARTMENT.
IT WAS REALLY LONELY.
DO YOU LOVE IT? - YEAH.
IT'S PRETTY. I LIKE THE COLOR.
- ISN'T IT AWESOME? - YEAH.
- I LOVE IT SO MUCH. - WHEN DID YOU GET THAT?
- TODAY.
I'M KEEPING IT FOR, LIKE, 24 HOURS,
BUT JAMES IS, LIKE, OUT OF THE HOUSE--
PACKED AND GONE.
- WHAT? - YEAH.
- I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JAMES JUST MOVED OUT.
I THINK IT'S HUGE NEWS.
I HOPE YOU'RE LEARNING SOMETHING THROUGH THIS.
- I THOUGHT I WAS DOING SO WELL YESTERDAY,
AND IT JUST KIND OF HIT ME.
I WAS LIKE, I GET WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
- I DON'T THINK THAT SHE'S TRYING TO TEACH YOU
TO STOP SHOPPING.
I THINK SHE'S TRYING TO TEACH YOU
TO CUT IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
- BUT IT'S JUST--IT'S HARD.
I MEAN, THE NIGHT DEFINITELY IS GONNA BE DIFFICULT,
'CAUSE I'VE NEVER SPENT THE NIGHT WITHOUT HIM,
KNOWING THAT HE ISN'T HERE.
- WELL, NOW YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE IF HE LEAVES
IF YOU CONTINUE DOING THIS.
- SMELL IT, DUDE. - NO, I'M NOT GONNA SMELL A BAG.
- SMELL IT. IT SMELLS SO GOOD.
PEEK-A-BOO! - I'M NOT GONNA SMELL A BAG.
- LOUIS, WHERE IS DADDY?
WE'RE BY OURSELVES TONIGHT.
SO I HAVE THE BAG. JAMES IS GONE.
IT IS A VERY LONELY FEELING.
WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OF-- THE BAG?
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
COME INSIDE. AW!
WHY DON'T YOU LIKE IT?
COME HERE.
LET'S CALL JAMES, SEE WHAT HE IS DOING.
[line trilling]
- HELLO? - HI, BABE.
I GOT A BIRKIN BAG.
YOU SHOULD BE EXCITED! "AND?"
[call disconnects]
- BABE?
JAMES?
OH.
- JUDYANN IS DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO MISSING RENT.
FOR THIS EXERCISE,
I WANT HER TO BAG UP SOME OF THE CLOTHES SHE'S NOT USING,
AND SEE IF SHE CAN SELL THEM
TO MAKE THE $400 SHE NEEDS TO PAY HER RENT.
THE QUESTION IS, WILL SHE DO IT?
LET'S GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO LET GO OF.
- OH, THIS IS THE HARD PART.
I WEAR THESE FOR WORK. - OKAY.
- SO I CAN'T GET RID OF THEM.
THESE I HONESTLY WEAR ALMOST EVERY DAY.
- MM-HMM. - I ALMOST WORE THEM TODAY.
BUT I WORE THESE INSTEAD. - UH-HUH.
I GUESS I'M WONDERING HOW MANY PAIRS
OF BLACK BOOTS YOU REALLY NEED.
- I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THESE LEATHER ONES,
SO I DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THEM.
- MM-HMM. - AND I DO USE THESE.
- WHAT ELSE? - FORGOT ABOUT HER.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO DIFFERENT AND FUN AND FUNKY.
- YEAH, IT IS DIFFERENT, FUN, AND FUNKY.
- SO YOU'RE SAYING LET IT GO.
- YOU MIGHT FIND IT FREEING
TO JUST BE RID OF SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT YOU DON'T REALLY NEED.
- WELL...
I MEAN, I PLAN ON STAYING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
SO WE CAN LET GO OF THIS ONE.
THIS WAS A VINTAGE COAT.
- ALL RIGHT, GOOD JOB.
- AS I'M THROWING THE STUFF ON THE PILE,
I'M LIKE, "WOW, I'M ACTUALLY REALLY DOING THIS."
AND I'M ALSO THINKING,
"I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS A LONG TIME AGO.
WHAT WAS HOLDING ME BACK?"
OKAY, THIS PURPLE DRESS. - PURPLE DRESS.
JUDYANN IS MAKING REAL PROGRESS.
SHE'S TAKING STEPS TOWARD BECOMING A RESPONSIBLE ADULT.
BUT HERE COMES THE REAL HARD PART.
WILL SHE BE WILLING TO LET GO OF HER STUFF?
NOW THE NEXT PART IS, OF COURSE, LET'S TURN THIS INTO CASH...
- RIGHT. - THAT YOU CAN THEN PUT TOWARD
SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT,
LIKE YOUR RENT. - RIGHT.
- SO HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.
I WANT US TO GATHER ALL THIS STUFF UP.
- UH-HUH. - LET'S TAKE IT OUT AND SELL IT.
- NATELA HAS NOT SEEN JAMES FOR 24 HOURS,
BUT SHE'S BEEN WITH THE BIRKIN BAG.
AND SO I'M VERY CURIOUS TO SEE
HOW THINGS WERE LIKE WHEN SHE HAD NO JAMES,
BUT SHE HAD THE PURSE OF HER DREAMS.
TELL ME ABOUT HOW THE EVENING WENT.
- IT WAS JUST KIND OF LONELY.
I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYBODY TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH.
- IT'S INTERESTING, 'CAUSE YOU HAD THE BAG.
- YEAH. - I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH
TO KEEP YOU FROM FEELING LONELY.
THIS EXERCISE-- IT'S ABOUT CHOICE.
[door opens] AND SPEAKING OF CHOICES...
- HI!
- HI. - HELLO.
HOW ARE YOU, JAMES? - PRETTY TIRED.
- OH, MY GOD, SEEING JAMES AFTER 24 HOURS
WAS LIKE SEEING HIM FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
AND I JUST COULDN'T STOP SMILING.
- WELL, WELCOME HOME, JAMES. - THANK YOU.
- HOW ARE YOU FEELING? - I JUST HOPE THAT...
YOU KNOW... NATELA'S HAD A CHANCE
TO THINK THINGS THROUGH A LITTLE BIT
AND REALIZE HOW...
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THIS MEANS TO ME
AND HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.
I'M HOPING THAT NATELA REALIZES THAT
OUR RELATIONSHIP TOGETHER IS MORE IMPORTANT
THAN WHAT BAG SHE'S GOT
AND THAT POSSESSIONS AREN'T THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
- IN SPENDING TIME WITH YOU, NATELA, I'VE LEARNED
THAT YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT SHOPPING.
YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT LABELS.
AND YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT BAG.
BUT MY CONCERN HAS BEEN
YOUR PASSION FOR ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS
OVERSHADOWED YOUR PASSION FOR THIS MAN.
AND RIGHT NOW YOU CANNOT HAVE BOTH.
I SIMPLY WANT YOU TO CHOOSE--
THE BIRKIN...
OR THE BOYFRIEND?
- HI. - HEY.
- HOW ARE YOU? - GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?
- I'M GOOD.
- JUDYANN HAS CLEANED UP HER CLOSET.
AND I'VE COME WITH HER TO THE LOCAL VINTAGE CLOTHING STORE
TO SEE IF SHE CAN RAISE THE ADDITIONAL $400
SHE NEEDS FOR RENT.
ANY MONEY SHE EARNS IS GONNA HELP OFFSET THE RENT.
- THIS IS PRETTY CUTE.
- I NEVER WORE THAT DRESS.
- A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS PRETTY--PRETTY WORN.
LET'S SEE. HERE WE GO...
- WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, WHAT'S THIS WORTH?
- UM, WE CAN GIVE YOU $235 FOR WHAT YOU BROUGHT.
- FOR ALL THOSE BAGS-- I DON'T EVEN THINK--
WOW. [chuckles]
I SHOULD TAKE THE CASH.
- SOUNDS GOOD. - IT'S WORTH A START.
- I'M HAPPY WITH THE STEPS JUDYANN'S TAKING
TO CHANGE THE SITUATION.
WITH THE CASH TIPS SHE'S GONNA EARN
AND THE MONEY SHE'S RAISED FROM SELLING HER CLOTHES,
SHE'S GOING TO MAKE THIS MONTH'S RENT.
SHE'S MAKING SOME GROWN-UP DECISIONS NOW.
AND SHE'S ON HER WAY TOWARD BEATING HER SHOPPING ADDICTION.
- HERE'S YOUR $235 AND YOUR I.D.
- YAY. - NICE GOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - YOU'RE WELCOME.
- I FEEL THAT THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE WAS AN EYE-OPENER.
AND IT MAKES ME FEEL THAT I AM CAPABLE
OF ATTACKING THIS PROBLEM.
- I THINK YOU MADE THE SMART CHOICE HERE.
- YEAH. - ALL RIGHT.
- I MEAN, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER TAKEN JUST THE CASH.
I USUALLY WOULD JUST BE RIGHT BACK IN THERE SHOPPING.
SO THAT'S THE FIRST MOVE TO, LIKE,
FIXING THAT SHOPPING ISSUE. - EXACTLY.
YOU'RE TAKING A STEP.
- I SIMPLY WANT YOU TO CHOOSE--
THE BIRKIN...
OR THE BOYFRIEND?
- I'M HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION
BETWEEN THE BIRKIN, WHICH IS THE BAG OF THE BAGS,
AND JAMES, WHICH IS THE MAN OF THE MAN.
IT'S DIFFICULT. SHE DEFINITELY KNOWS HOW TO...
PUSH MY BUTTONS.
- THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE.
BIRKIN OR BOYFRIEND?
- IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE JAMES.
- OKAY. - AW.
I'M SO HAPPY THAT SHE'S PRIORITIZING
OUR LIVES OVER HER SHOPPING.
I'M JUST SO PROUD OF YOU.
- I'M TAKING BACK, OKAY? SO IT'S GOOD-BYE TO THIS.
- I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE BACK.
- I'M PROUD OF YOU.
- THERE ARE DEFINITELY A LOT OF THINGS
THAT CAME OUT OF THIS PROCESS
THAT HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY,
HELPED MY RELATIONSHIP WITH JAMES,
AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, HELPED MY FUTURE,
WHICH I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT.
MY KING.
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