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AUDIENCE: JERRY, JERRY,
JERRY!
JERRY: THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HEY, WELCOME TO TH SHOW.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
MY GUESTS TODAY ARE
INVOLVES IN LOVE TRIANGLES
AND SAY ONE PERSON JUST
ISN'T GETTING THE MESSAGE.
THEY'RE HERE TODAY TO TELL
THE THIRD WHEEL, GIVE IT
UP, IT'S OVER.
OK, PLEASE WELCOME TRACI TO
THE SHOW.
TRACI, WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> I HAVE TWO GUYS FIGHTING
OVER ME.
I'M WITH ONE PERPON, AND MY
EX-BOYFRIEND KEEPS WRITING
ME LIKE 18-PAGE LETTERS AND
TELLING ME TO CALL HIM AND
GET A HOLD OF HIM, AND I
JUST WANT HIM TO LEAVE ME
ALONE.
JERRY: OK.
THE -- COINCIDENTALLY
THEY'RE BOTH NAMED SHANE,
IS THAT TRUE?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: LET'S START WITH THE
FIRST SHANE.
YOU WERE WITH HIM FOR HOW
LONG?
>> LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF.
JERRY: A YEAR AND A HALF.
YOU LOVED HIM?
>> YES.
STILL DO.
>> STILL DO.
YOU LEFT HIM.
WHY?
>> WE WERE TOGETHER FOR A
YEAR AND A HALF AND HE
BASICALLY STAYED AT MY
HOUSE ALL THE TIME AND HE
JUST WOULDN'T MAKE THAT
EXTRA DEMI.
AND I GOT TIRED OF WAITING
FOR HIM AND MOVED ON.
O YOU MOVED ON AND MET
ANOTHER SHANE?
>> I NEW THE OTHER SHANE
FIRST.
I WAS FRIENDS WITH HIM WHEN
I WAS MARRIED AND WE WERE
ALL FRIENDS AND I KNEW HIM
FOR LIKE FIVE YEARS.
JERRY: YOU WERE MARRIED TO
THE FIRST SHANE?
>> I WASN'T MARRIED TO
EITHER SHANE.
JERRHANE IS A GUY YOU
JUST WENT OUT WITH.
YOU MARRIED BOB.
I DON'T KNOW.
SO YOU LEFT THE FIRST SHANE
BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T COMMIT.
THEN YOU WENT WITH THIS
OTHER SHANE?
>> YEAH. >> OK.
LET'S BRING HIM OUT.
HOW DO WE REFER TO HIM?
>> BIG SHANE.
YOU'LL SEE.
JERRY: HERE'S LITTLE SHANE.
JERRY: WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
DO YOU LOVE HER?
>> I LOVE HER VERY MUCH.
JERRY: I'LL STEP OUT OF IT.
I'LL LET YOU TWO TALK.
>> I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU KNOW I WANT TO TAKE
CARE OF AND YOU TAKE CARE
OF YOUR KIDS AND EVERYTHING
ELSE AND YOU'RE UP AND WE
MOVE OUT OF STATE AND I TRY
TO TAKE CARE OF YOU AND
THINGS ARE HARD.
YOU EXPLAIN TO ME AND TELL
ME HOW SHINGS SHOULD BE AND
STUFF LIKE THAT AND YOU
JUST -- YOU EVEN WRITE ME
IN LETTERS TELLING ME THAT
YOU KNOW YOU UP AND RUN
WHEN THINGS GET HARD AND
STUFF LIKE THAT AND YOU RUN
TOO EASY.
YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN ME TWO
MONTHS STRAIGHT ALONE WITH
YOU THOSE KIDS TO MAKE
THINGS RIGHT.
>> YES, I HAVE.
>> NO, YOU HAVEN'T.
>> YES, I HAVE.
JERRY: WHAT TWO KIDS?
WHAT KIDS?
>> HER SON AND HER
DAUGHTER.
JERRY: AND YOU SAY THAT YOU
HAVE GIVEN HIM A CHANCE?
>> YES.
AND WHEN THINGS START GOING
-- WHEN -- BEFORE I EVEN
LEFT, I TOLD HIM THAT
THINGS WERE NOT WORKING
OUT.
I WAS NOT HAPPY -- YOU KNEW
I WASN'T HAPPY.
>> WHEN YOU LEFT ME -- YOU
TOLD ME THAT WE WERE STILL
GOING TO BE MARRIED AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> I SAID MAYBE.
>> OK.
HERE IS CARDS.
I LOVE YOU.
I WANT TO SEE YOU REAL
SOON.
LOVE, YOUR FUTURE WIFE AND
ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.
YOU LEFT ME ALL THIS STUFF.
I GOT LETTERS RIGHT HERE
TELLING ME THAT YOU RAN TOO
SOON AND YOU ALWAYS RUN --
GUESS YOUR RELATIONSHIP
TEACHERS HAVEN'T BEEN THAT
GREAT AND YOU WANT TO BE
ALONE WITH ME OUT OF STATE
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE CAN
WORK THINGS OUT.
>> I THOUGHT WE COULD AND
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT THE
PERSON I THOUGHT YOU WERE.
JERRY: HERE'S THE OTHER
SHANE.
>> YOU LOOK GOOD.
YOU'RE A LYING PIECE OF
[BEE.
>> YOU HAVEN'T WORKED FOR
HOW LONG, SHANE?
WHAT ABOUT THE KID THAT YOU
HAVE?
WHAT ABOUT THE KID THAT YOU
HAVE?
YOU DON'T EVEN TAKE CARE OF
THAT ONE.
HOW YOU GOING TO TAKE CARE
OF TWO OTHERS?
>> WHATEVER.
SHE CAME BACK TO ME.
I WROTE HER LETTER AFTER
LETTER.
JERRY: WAIT A SECOND.
TRACI, YOU'RE BASICALLY
SAYING YOU'RE DONE WITH
SHANE ON YOUR LEFT AS WE
LOOK AT THE SCREEN ON THE
RIGHT, AND YOU WANT TO BE
WITH THE SHANE ON YOUR
OTHER SIDE?
>> YES.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT.
MORE THAN ANYTHING.
JERRY: SHANE, YOU CAN
RESPOND.
DO YOU BELIEVE HER THAT
IT'S GOING TO BE PERMANENT
OR DO YOU THINK --
>> SHE ACTUALLY CAME BACK
OUT AND GOT A JOB AND DID
WHAT SHE HAD TO DO TO PROVE
IT TO ME.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO
SAY TO HER?
>> THAT I LOVE HER AND WANT
HER TO BE WITH ME OUT --
[BEEP]
GO AHEAD!
>> HAVE A SEAT.
HAVE A SEAT.
>> COMON.
?
>> RELAX.
FIX YOUR SHIRT.
>> HEY, DON'T PUSH ME, ALL
RIGHT?
DON'T PUSH ME.
JERRY: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
A BREAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
>> YOU'RE A --
JERRY: WHY -- I'M NOT --
>> NOTHINGUNNY ABOUT IT.
>> WHY DON'T YOU GUYS ACT
LIKE ADTS?
>> WHY DON'T YOU, OK?
FINALLY, IT'S OVER.
I NT YOU TO BE HAPPY.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE WITH
HIM, BE WITH HIM.
>> YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE.
>> WHO'S THE ONE WITH THE
D.W.I.?
WHO'S THE DRUNKEN I HAD
WROT WHO RUNS OLD LADIES
OFF THE ROAD.
>> THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH IT.
THAT'S NONE OF YOUR
BUSINESS.
HE AIN'T GOING TO DRIVE NO
MORE.
>> THAT'S WHAT HE TELLS
YOU.
>> I KNOW.
I KNOW, TOO, BECAUSE I SEEN
HIM LEAVE THE BAR DRUNK
DRIVING.
>> YOU'RE A LIAR.
>> I'M ALWAYS A LIAR.
WHAT AM I LYING ABOUT?
>> PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES IN
THIS WORLD, DON'T THEY?
OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE MADE A
FEW.
>> OBVIOUSLY I HAVE.
>> WHERE IS THE DRUG
RECORD?
>> WHAT DRUG RECORD?
>> THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
>> WHO SELLS DRUGS -- WHO
GOT [BEEP] FOR SELLING
DRUGS?
>> COMEN, HOME BOY.
AUDIENCE: JERRY, JERRY,
JERR JERRY, JERRY, JERRY!
>> YOUSHOULD NOT HAVE DONE
THIS TO ME.
>> I DIDN'T DO THIS.
>> YEAH, YOU DID.
>> MY PHONE COST MORE THAN
YOUR V.C.R.
WHATEVER.
YOU PAID $15 FOR THE PNE.
>> FOR BEING [BEEP] HERE.
>> WHATEVER.
>> WHATEVER.
>> LIKE YOUR FAMILY HAS
DONE NOTHING WRONG, SHANE.
>> NONE OF THEM IS IN JAIL.
>> YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO
JAIL EITHER ROO,IT?
>> NOT FOR SELLING DRUGS.
>> HE HASN'T BEEN TO JAIL
FOR SELLING DRUGS EITHER.
WHAT MAKES YOU SO MUCH
BETTER THAN HIM?
>> STAY THERE.
>> YOU LIVED AT HOME UNTIL
YOU WERE 25 YEARS OLD
ALMOST?
HE'S LIVED ON HIS OWN SINCE
HE WAS8 YEARS OLD.
>> WHATEVER.
>> BIG DIFFEREE.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN I LIVED
AT HOME.
I VEN'T LIVED AT HOME.
>> YOU LIVED AT YOUR HOME
YOUR YOUR WIFE'S MARRIAGE
HOME.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN LOVE HER
YOU TOLD HER THAT.
JERRY: WHATEVER THE ANGER
-- WHATEVER T ANGER --
WHATEVER THE ANGER,F
SHE'S SAYING SHE DOESN'T
WANT TO BE WITH YOU ANYMORE
--
>> FINE.
I JUSTT HER TO BE
HAPPY.
JERRY: BUT WHAT'S THE ANGE
BETWEEN YOU TWO GUYS?
SHE AT SOME POINT SAID SHE
LOVED YOU SHE AT SOME POINT
ID SHE LOVES YOU.
SO SHE'S TOLD BOTH OF YOU
THAT AT VARYI TIMES BUT
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE WITH HIM,
BUT THAT'S NOT HIS FAULT
AND I GOT TO SAY TO YOU,
SHANE, THAT'S NOT HIS FAULT
EITHER.
>> NO.
BUT HE MENTIONED STUFF
ABOUT MY FAMILY WHICH ISN'T
TRUE, DESERVES A WHOOPED
***.
>> HOOP IT, FAT BOY.
JERRY: HAS VIOLENCE BEEN A
PROBLEM IN THIS
RELATIONSHIP?
DID YOU I HAVE HIT HER?
>> I NEVER HIT HER, I SHOOK
HER AROUND.
>> HIT ME.
PUNCHED ME IN THE ARM.
>> NEVER.
>> WHATEVER.
>> YOU'RE A LYING ***.
>> ASK MHAEL IF I DID NOT
HAVE --
>> SHE'S A LYING ***!
>> I CAN HANDLE IT MYSELF.
YOU'RE NOT FIGHTING.
>> COME RIT OVER HERE,
FAT BOY.
>> CAN HE FINISH THE SHOW,
PLEASE?
AND SHUT UP.
JERRY: HAS EVER HIT YOU?
>> NO.
JERRY: HE'S NOTIOLENT AT
ALL?
>> THEY ASKED IF YOU WERE
VIOLENT.
>> NO.
I TREAT HER WITH NOTHING
BUT RESPECT.
BUT TOLD HER OVER THE
PHONE -- SHE WAS RIGHT
THERE WHEN SHE TOLD HER I
DON'T WANT TO SEE HER NO
MORE SO I MEAN, --
JERRY: SO WHAT HAS TO DO
WITH THE SHOW IS YOU'RE
GOINTO STAY WITH SHANE?
YOU TWO WANTING TO TONIGHT?
>> YES.
JERRY: OK.
UP NEXT, BEVERLY SAYS SHE'S
FURIOUS ANOTHER WOMAN HAS
STOL HER MAN.
TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, IT'S
HER OWN FLESH AND BLOOD.
SHE'LL CONFRONT THEM WHEN
WE RETURN.
STAY WITH US.
>> I'LL GET OVER IT.
GET OVER THIS.
>> TOMORROW ON "SPRINGER."
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
IT'S A WILD ONE.
WELCOME BACK.
TODAY WE HAVE LOVE
TRIANGLES WHERE TWO PEOPLE
SAY THEY WANT TO GET RID OF
THE THIRD WHEEL.
WELL, PLEASE MEET BEVERLY.
SHE SAYS SHE WAS DEVASTATED
WHEN SHE DISCOVERED HER
BOYFRIEND OF 3 1/2 YEARS
WAS CHEATING.
TELL US ABOUT THAT STORY,
BEVERLY.
>> WELL, I'VE BEEN WITH
THIS MAN FOR 31/2 YEARS.
I LOVED THIS MAN WITH ALL
MY HEART, AT LEAST I
THOUGHT I DID AND HIM AN
MY NASTY *** COUSIN WENT
BEHIND MY BACK AND CHEATED
ON ME.
>> HE IS CHEATING WITH YOUR
COUSIN?
>> YES.
IT BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR
AND A HALF, AND I'M SICK OF
IT.
I'M THROUGH WITH IT.
JERRY: WHEN DID YOU FIND
OUT THIS WAS HAPPENING?
>> MY LITTLE BROTHER'S
BIRTHDAY PARTY.
SHE CAME TO MY HOUSE, TOLD
ME THAT IT WAS A LIE.
EVERYBODY WAS JUST LIING ON
HER, THAT HE CAME, SHE
LEFT.
THEN HE LEFT LIKE 10
MINUTES LATER.
THEN LIKE THE NEXT MORNING
MY AUNTIE'S BOYFRIEND COMES
OVER THERE ASKING ME
SOMETHING.
I WAS LIKE ASK HIM.
HE SAID WELL HE DOWN THE
STREET ASLEEP.
I'M LIKE WHERE.
AT YOUR AUNTIE'S HOUSE.
I WAS LIKE WHAT?
I WAS PISSED OFF.
WENT DOWN THERE TO WHOOP
HER *** BUT HE WOULDN'T LET
ME.
BUT I GOT HER ***.
I GOT HER.
I TRIED TO KILL THAT B-52.
-- ***.
JERRY: SO, IT'S YOUR
BOYFRIEND AND YOUR COUSIN
NOW SINCE YOU FOUND OUT
THAT THEY WERE SLEEPING
TOGETHER.
HAVE YOU LEFT YOUR
BOYFRIEND?
>> NO.
HE WON'T LET ME GO.
I KNOW THAT'S A LAME EXCUSE
BUT THAT'S THE TRUTH.
JERRY: WELL, YOU HAVE A
VOICE IN THIS, DON'T YOU?
IF HE'S CHEATING ON YOU,
YOU SHOULD SAY GET OUT OF
THE HOUSE, YOU'RE OUT OF
HERE.
>> YEAH, TRUE.
JERRY: BUT YOU DON'T SAY
THAT.
IS IT POSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU
STILL CARE ABOUT HIM?
>> YEAH, I CARE ABOUT HIM
BUT THE LOVE IS NOT THERE
ANYMORE.
JERRY: THE LOVE ISN'T THERE
ANYMORE.
>> NO.
JERRY: WHEN WAS THE LAST
TIME YOU SLEPT WITH HIM?
>> A WHILE AGO.
JERRY: SO SINCE YOU FOUND
OUT, YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT
ANYMORE?
>> NO, NOT REALLY.
JERRY: NOT REALLY BUT --
ONCE IN A WHILE IN A WEEK
MOMENT YOU STILL GO BACK TO
HIM.
>> I'M NOT THAT TYPE OF
PERSON TO GO OUT THERE AND
JUST DO ANYBODY.
THAT'S NOT ME.
I SLEEP WITH ONE PERSON
ONLY.
THAT'S NOT ME.
JERRY: OK.
AND IT'S STILL THIS GUY,
EVEN THOUGH HE'S CHEATING
WITH YOUR COUSIN.
WHAT DOES YOUR COUSIN SAY
TO YOU --
>> NOTHING.
SHE'S NASTY.
BUT SHE DON'T GIVE A -- SHE
COMES --
JERRY: HER NAME IS LAKISHA?
>> YEAH.
JERRY: HERE IS LAKISHA.
>> [BEEP].
>> SIT DOWN, GUYS.
SIT DOWN.
SIT DOWN, SHANE.
>> YOU SIT OVER HERE.
Y: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO
SAY?
>> IF YOU PUT ME BACK ON,
I'M HURTING HER.
I'M HURTING THAT ***.
I'LL BE IN GOD, I SWEAR TO
GOD.
I'M HURTING THAT ***.
JERRY: AND WHY IS THAT?
>> COMING IN MY FACE TRYING
TO ROMP ON ME.
THAT *** DONE DIRT.
I DIDN'T DO DIRT.
SHE WENT BEHIND ME WITH MY
MAN.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
YOUR MAN WHEN YOU TALK TO
HIM?
>> HE GOT TO PICK WHO HE
WANT TO BE WITH BECAUSE I'M
NOT ABOUT TO GO THROUGH
THIS NO MORE, I'M TIRED OF
T.
JERRY: WHY WOULD YOU STAY
WITH HIM IN THE FIRST
PLACE?
>> BECAUSE I -- BECAUSE I
LOVE HIM.
BUT NOW, UH-UH.
UH-UH.
IT'S OVER.
I'M TELLING YOU.
JERRY: WHAT KIND OF
RELATIONSHIP -- GO AHEAD,
HAVE SOME WATER.
WHAT KIND OF A RELATIONSHIP
DID YOU HAVE WITH YOUR
COUSIN BEFORE THIS?
>> WE WAS BEST OF COUSINS,
KICKING AND EVERYTHING.
HOW SH GOING TO DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO ME?
I AIN'T NEVER WENT BEHIND
HER BACK AND MESSED ON HER.
BUT THEN SHE GOES BEHIND ME
-- SHEUST BE JEALOUS.
JERRY: WHEN YOU SAID THAT
TO HER THE FIRST TIME WHAT
WAS HER RPONSE?
>> SHE LAUGHED AND SAID SHE
WASN'T MESSING AROUND WITH
HIM AND.
>> BUT NOW THA YOU KNOW,
WHAT CONVERSATIONS HAVU
HAD WITH HER?
>> TRYING TO BE MY COUSIN.
I KNOW I DONE WRONG.
WE SHOULD BE COUSINS AGAIN.
I TELL HER I CAN'T FORGIVE
YOU LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYI■N?
YOU DID SOMETHING TO ME
THAT HURTED ME AND I SAID
IT AIN'T JUST HER FAULT,
IT'S HIS FAULT, TOO.
BUT STILL, YOU MY COUSIN.
IF HE CAME TO YOU, YOU
SHOULD HAVE BEEN WOMAN
ENOUGH TO COME TO ME AND
TELL ME THATUR MAN TRIEDó
TO HIT ON ME, YOU KNOW WHAT
I'M SAYING?
OR HE SHOULD HAVE CAME TO
ME AND TOLD ME YOUR COUSIN
TRIED TO HIT ON ME.
JERRY: OK.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK
AND THEN COME -- OK.
YEAH, LET'S GET EVERYBODY
CALMED DOWN FOR A BIT.
YOU WAIT HERE AND GET YOUR
BREATH BACK, OK?
AND WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A
MOMENT.
OK?
>> MM-HMM.
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
IF YOU JUST JOINED US, THIS
IS A CRAZY ONE.
WE JUST -- THE SHOW -- THE
SHOW IS ABOUT LOVE
TRIANGLES.
LAKISHA WAS JUST INTRODUCED
BEFORE THE SEGMENT AND IT
GOT A LITTLE ROUGH.
LAKISHA, YOU HAVE A COUSIN
THAT USED TO BE YOUR BEST
FRIEND AND HER NAME WAS
BEVERLY.
WE WERE TALKING TO BEVERLY.
BEVERLY WAS COMPLAINING
BECAUSE SHE SAID YOU HER
COUSIN, HER BEST FRIEND
BASICALLY TOOK AWAY HER
BOYFRIEND OF 31/2 YEARS OR
SOME PERIOD OF TIME,
EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
SO OBVIOUSLY SHE'S UPSET
BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE
COUSINS.
I'M GOING TO BRING BEVERLY
BACK NOW AND LET YOU TWO
TALK TO EACH -- HOPEFULLY
TALK, TALK, TALK.
ALL RIGHT.
SIT BACK IN THE CHAIR.
HERE IS BEVERLY.
>> NO MORE FIGHTING.
>> RELAX!
LET ME GO.
JERRY: LAKISHA, WHY ARE YOU
ANGRY AT BEVERLY ?
>> THE *** ANGRY AT ME.
THAT'S WHY I'M ANGRY AT
HER.
JERRY: OK.
DOESN'T SHE HAVE REASON TO
BE ANGRY AT YOU?
>> YES, SHE DO.
JERRY: WELL, INSTEAD OF
FIGHTING LIKE KIDS, WHY NOT
STOP FOR A SECOND AND SAY
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I OWE HER AN APOLOGY, I
DON'T NEED TO BE FIGHTING
WITH HER.
HOW DID YOU MEET MARK?
>> MICHAEL.
JERRY: MICHAEL, SORRY .
>> I MET HIM LIKE AT A CLUB
ONE DAY.
THAT WAS LIKE TWO YEARS
AGO.
JERRY: AND YOU ALREADY KNEW
THAT HE WAS DATING --
>> YES, I DID.
JERRY: AND WHAT WAS -- HOW
DID THAT FIRST START OUT?
>> IT JUST STARTED OUT.
HE CAME TO ME AND I CAME TO
HIM.
SO IT STARTED LIKE THAT.
JERRY: AND DID HE THEN MAKE
THE FIRST MOVE ON YOU IN
TERMS OF --
>> YES, HE DID.o
JERRY: AND YOU SAID TO HIM,
GEE, YOU'RE A NICE GUY,
MICHAEL BUT THAT'S MY
COUSIN.
>> SHE DID IT TO ME.
YES, SHE DID.
JERRY: OK.
DO YOU STILL HAVE FEELINGS
FOR MICHAEL?
>> YES, I DO.
JERRY: BUT HE'S STILL WITH
HER?
>> NO, HE'S NOT.
HE TELL ME HE LOVE ME.
HE WANT TO BE WITH ME.
HE PROPOSED TO ME.
JERRY: WHAT IF WE FIND OUT
AND WE'LL TALK TO HIM
LATER, WHAT IF WE FIND OUT
THAT HE TELLS HER THE SAME
THING, THAT HE LOVES HER
AND REALLY CARES ABOUT HER?
>> THEN GET OUT OF HIS
LIFE.
JERRY: I GUESS, LAKISHA,
THE POINT I'M MAKE
SOMETHING WE SEE SO MUCH OF
THIS ON THIS SHOW, IS THAT
YOU -- THE TWO WOMEN ARE
FIGHTING EACH OTHER, YOU
GUYS HATE EACH OTHER AND
ARE ANGRY AT EACH OTHER
WHEN IN FACT IT'S THE
PERSON IN THE MIDDLE THAT'S
PLAYING YOU TWO.
THE GUY IS PLAYING YOU.
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD EVER
HAVE A -- A CIVIL
RELATIONSHIP WITH BEVERLY
AGAIN?
>> YES, I CAN.
JERRY: WHAT WOU HAVE TO
HAPPEN?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO
APOLOGIZE TO HER.
JERRY: BUT WHEN WE BRING
HER OUT HERE, YOU TWO JUST
GO AT EACH OTHER?
>> I WON'T GO AT HER NO
MORE.
JERRY: OK.
WELL, I THINK THEY'RE
TALKING TO HER BACKSTAGE,
SO I CAN'T BRING HER OUT
RIGHT NOW.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BRING HER
BACK LATER ONN THE SHOW.
IS IT -- IS IT WORTH IT
BEING WITH HIM TO HAVE YOUR
COUSIN ANGRY AT YOU?
>> NO.
JERRY: IT REALLY ISN'T, IS
IT?
>> NO.
JERRY: BECAUSE YOU KNOW
WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU
NOW, YOU JUST SEEM LIKE A
QUIET, KIND, WARM, FUN --
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
>> I AM.
JERRY: AND YET SHE WALKS
OUT HERE, YOU JUST BECOME
ANOTHER PERSON.
>> SHE CLED ME *** AND
HO AND I'M NOT GOING TO
ACCEPT THAT FROM HER
JERRY: YEAH.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST NAMES,
THOSE ARE JUST WORDS.
I TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S
BRING HER OUT BUT HERE IS
THE DEAL.
SHE HAS PROMISED TO STAY IN
HER SEAT AND EVEN IF SHE
COMES OUT SCREAMING AND
YELLING, DON'T GO AT HER,
OK?
>> OK.
JERRY: STAY COOL.
LET'S BRING OUT BEVERLY.
JERRY: OK.
BEVERLY -- LAKISHA IS
STAYING IN HER SEAT.
SO YOU STAY IN YOURS.
STAY RIGHT THERE.
OK.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT,
BEVERLY, WHEN I WAS JUST
TALKING TO HER WHEN YOU
WERE BACKSTAGE, I ASKED HE
WHY WHEN YOU COME OUT DOES
THIS FIGHTING START, AND
SHE SAYS TO ME THAT SHE'S
FIGHTING BECAUSE SHE SEES
YOU COMING OVER AND --
>> NO.
SHE COMES OVER TO ME -- YOU
SHOULD NOT HAVE -- [BEEP].
YOU NASTY [BEEP].
YOU NASTY --
>> [BEEP].
JERRY: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
A BREAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
STAY WITH US.
>> [BEEP].
JERRY: WELCOMEACK.
WELL, WE'LL TRY IT AGAIN.
WE -- ON STAGE RIGHTOW IS
LAKISHA.
SHE HAS A COUSIN AND BEST
FRIEND BEVERLY.
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THEY'RE
BEST FRIENDS RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE THEY'RE FIGHTG
WHEN THEY G CLOSE TO EACH
OTHER BUT THEY'RE ANGRY
BECAUSE BOTH LAKISHA AND
BEVERLY ARE DATING THE SAME
MAN.
SO I'M GOING TO BRING HIM
OUT NOW WITH BEVERLY, AND
WE'LL ALL GET A CHANCE
HOPEFULLY TO TALK AND NOT
GHT.
HERE ARE LAKISHA'S COUSIN
BEVERLY AND THE MAN BETWEEN
BOTH OF THEM MIKE.
>> I WILL NOT [BEEP] --
>> [BEEP].
>> YOU BETTER WATCH [BEEP].
JERRY: MIKE, WHY ARE YOU
ANGRY AT LAKISHA?
>> FIRST OF ALL SHE'S A
DIRT ROTTEN ***.
>> YOU'RE A DIRTY ROTTEN --
>> WHAT DO YOU --
>> TELL HER.
TELL HER.
A DON'T EN KNOW.
YOU JUST A DIRTY LITTLE
***, THOUGH.
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE BOTH
UP HERE FIGHTING.
BOTHHE HOES STAY IN THE
SAME HOUSE TOGETHER.
>> I AIN'T NO HO.
A GET MY UTMOST RESPECT --
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
JERRY: HEY, HEY --BEVERLY,
BEVERLY --
>> YOU JEALOUS.
JUST ADMIT IT.
YOU JEALOUS.
YOU JEALO.
SHE IS JEALOUS.
JERRY: NO FIGHTING ON
STAGE.
THERE IS NO FIGHTING ON
STAGE.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET
HURT.
OK.
PLEASE STAY WHERE YOU ARE.
PLEASE STAY WHERE YOU ARE
WHEN I'M ON STAGE, OK?
PLEASE.
NOW, OK.
OK.
WHEN I WAS JUST TALKING TO
HER ALONE -- WHEN I WAS
JUST TALKING TO HER ALONE,
WHAT SHE SAID AND EVERYONE
HERE IS A WSS, SHE SAID
SHE -- IT ISN'T -- NO GUY
ORTH HING -- LET ME
FINISH.
SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO
APOLOGIZE TO YOU, THAT SHE
FEELS BA THAT SHE'D RATHER
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
YOU, H BEST FRIEND AND
COUSIN THAN WITH ANY GUY.
SO LET THAT SINKIN.
>> BUT SHE COME ON STAGE
COMING AT ME.
I DIDN'T DO NOTHING TO HER.
JERRY: I UNDSTAND.
OK.
OK.
>> I AIN'T GOING TO FORGIVE
HER LIKE THAT.
NEVER IN LIFE.
AS LONG AS I LIVE.
NEVER.
JERRY: MIKE, YOU'RE IN TH
MIDDLE OF THIS.
>> EXACTLY.
JERRY: YOU WERE GOING WITH
HER AND SLEEP WITH HER
COUSIN?
>> THIS IS HAPPENED.
ACTUALLY IT WAS BEVERLY'S
FAULT BECAUSE THAT WHOLE
FAMILY -- JUST BECAUSE -- I
COUL'T STAND LAKISHA.
I AIN'T GOING TO LIE.
I COULDN'T STAND THE GOUND
SHE WALKED ON BUT ALL OF A
SUDDENEVERLY, HER MAMA
STARTEDUSHING ME.
MIKE ANDAKISHA THIS, MIKE
AND LAKISHA THAT.
JERRY: DON'T USE THAT WORD
ON TELEVISION, OK?
YOU KNOW THAT.
SO PEOPLE WERE SAYING YOU
WERE SLEEPING TOGETHER.
>> SO WHY DON'TE DO IT?
JERRY: IF YOU'RE IN LOVE --
DID YOU LOVE BEVERLY?
>> I DID.
PROMED TO BEVERLY.
BEVERLY HAD A DIAMOND RING
ON HER FINGER RIGHT NOW.
JERRY: BUT WHY WOULD YOU
SAY YOU LOVE HER?
>> I'M GOING TO TELL YOU,
JERRY.
I WENT TO JAIL.
JERRY: YOUT TO JAIL.
>> THE DAY I FEEL AT JAIL
SHE WAS AT HER EX-MAN'S
HOUSE.
>> THAT'S A LIE.
>> WHO IN THIS CROWD WON'T
BELIE THEIR SISTER?
>> WHAT SHE TOLD YOU WAS A
LIE, THOUGH.
>> BEVERLY, YOU DID IT.
YOU KN YOU DID IT.
YES, DID.
>> IT AIN'T EVEN YOU, SO
WHAT YOU -- HE TALKING TO
ME, AIN'T HE?
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
>> BECAUSE I AIN'T THAT
TYPE OF ***.
I SLEEP WITH ONELY AND ONLY
ONE.
JERRY: OK.
THE QUESTION IS THIS -- DID
YOU AT ANYINT EVER HAVE
FEELINGS ABOUT LAKISHA.
>> I STILL DO.
JERRY: YOU STILL DO.
>> YES.
JERRY: OK.
SO BEVERLY, WHEN YOU HEAR
-- WHEN YOU HEAR MIKE SAY
THAT HE STILL HAS FEELINGS
FOR LAKISHA, WHAT DO YOU --
WITHOUT CURSING, AT DO
YOU WANT SAY TO MIKE?
> THAT HE LEAVE ME ALONE
AND BE WITH HER, BECAUSE I
CAN DO BETTER BY MYSELF.
JERRY: OK.
HOLD ON.
LET ME JUST GET THIS.
YOU'REAYING WHAT TO THAT?
>> I DON'T WANT TO BE WITH
HIM.
JERRY: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
STAY WITH US.
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
IF YOU JUST JOINED US,
HERE'S WHAT'S BEEN GOING
ON.
MIKE WAS DATING OR WAS
TOGETHER WITH BEVERLY FOR
SOME TIME, ABOUT 3 1/2
YEARS.
SOMETIME DURING THAT 3 1/2
YEARS MIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN
STARTED HAVING AN AFFAIR
WITH BEVERLY'S BEST FRIEND
AND COUSIN LAKISHA.
MIKE ADMITS TO HAVING SOME
FEELINGS ABOUT LAKISHA.
SO BEVERLY SAYS TO MIKEAF
THAT'S THE CASE, YOU DON'T
NEED TO BE AROUND ME
ANYMORE.
LAKISHA NOW SAYS TO MIKE
SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE WITH
HIM EITHER, AND MY QUESTION
IS WHY NOT?
AND THEN I'LL BRING OUT THE
NEXT GUEST.
)M
WITH HIM.
BECAUSE HE'S SELF-PUNISH
DOGGISH.
JERRY: LAKISHA -- GO AHEAD,
MIKE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY
SOMETHING.
HOW AM I DOGGISH?
>> YOU DOGGISH.
JERRY: TELL ME HOW?
>> YOU DOGGISH -- YOU
SHOULD HAVE BEEN -- YOU
TOLD ME YOU HAD LEFT HER
rALONE.
>> WHAT DID YOU TELL ME?
>> I WASN'T WITH NOBODY.
>> WHO DID YOU SPEND THE
NIGHT WITH THURSDAY NIGHT?
>> WE AIN'T TOGETHER,
THOUGH.
WE AIN'T TOGETHER, THOUGH.
WHY YOU WANT TO KNOW.
>> I DONE GAVE THIS GIRL SO
MANY CHANCES.
>> I GAVE YOU CHANCES.
I GAVE YOU PLENTY OF
CHANCES.
JERRY: LAKISHA HAS A FRIEND
BY THE NAME OF CHARLIE.
HERE'S CHARLIE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
YOU LOOK --
>> HI.
JERRY: HI.
YOU'RE LAKISHA'S FRIEND.
WHAT CAN YOU ADD TO THIS?
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY?
>> I WANT TO SAY TO YOU,
BEVERLY, THIS IS WHAT I
WANT TO SAY TO YOU --
JERRY: LET HER TALK.
LET HER TALK.
>> HONESTLY, I'M NOT OUT
HERE TO FIGHT YOU.
WE ALWAYS BEEN COOL AND I'M
HERE TO SAY THIS TO YOU.
YOU AND LAKISHA IS COUSINS.
YOU ALL NEED TO STOP THIS.
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
>> SHE BEEN MY FRIEND FOR
FIVE YEARS.
YOU IS A DOG.
>> SO WHAT?
>> AND YOU NEED TO LEAVE
BOTH OF THEM ALONE.
YOU NEED TO LEAVE BOTH OF
THEM ALONE.
YOU NEED TO LEAVE THEM BOTH
ALONE.
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
>> [BEEP].
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
>> [BEEP]
JERRY: HEY, HEY, HEY, HERE
I AM A.
HEY, IT'S ME AGAIN.
IT'S ME AGAIN.
HOW YOU ALL DOING?
NOW WATCH WHAT I DO.
I'M GOING TO WALK UP THERE.
THERE'S A YOUNG LADY WITH
HER HAND UP.
WE'RE GOING TO GET HER
QUESTION.
EVERYODY STAY COOL.
LET'S BRING OUT THE FEMALE
FROM THE FIRST STORY NOW.
ALL RIGHT.
NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO ASK
QUESTIONS SO EVERYBODY CAN
STAY WHERE THEY ARE.
YES?
>> WHY ARE YOU WITH HIM?
HE IS NOT ALL THAT.
YOU GUYS CAN DO BETTER THAN
THAT.
YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL BLACK
WOMEN.
YOU CAN MOVE ON.
>> I KNOW I CAN.
I KNOW I CAN.
>> YOU GUYS CAN MOVE ON OUT
OF THAT SITUATION, BOTH OF
YOU, BECAUSE NEITHER ONE OF
YOU WANT HIM.
WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS BE
FRIENDS AND DROP HIM?
THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY.
>> I GOT A QUESTION.
I GOT A COMMENT TO MAKE.
ACTUALLY, RRY, I WOULD
PREFER BOTH OF THEM TO
LEAVE ME ALONE AND BE
COUSINS.
I HONEST TO GOD WLD DO
THAT.
>> I AIN'T TINTO HEAR
THAT.
YOU'LL BE CALLING ME
TOMORROW.
>> ARE YOU PREGNANT AND IF
YOU ARE WHICH SHANE IS IT
BY?
>> I'M NOT PREGNANT.
>> YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE.
>> SHE'S JUST OVERWEIGHT.
JERRY: ALL RIGHT.
HOLD O.
>> YOU KNOW, FOR HER AND
FOR HIM, IT'S PEOPLE LIKE
YOU THAT MESS UP OUR
BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT'S
OUT THERE.
BECAUSE FOR ONE, NOBODY IN
HERE IS CLEAN.
YOU KNEW ABOUT WHAT SHE WAS
DOING JUST LIKE YOU ALL
KNEW WHAT HE WASÑ DOING SO
-- I -- YOU HAVE NO RIGHT
TO JUDGE ME.
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME.
>> SO THEREFORE -- YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING, HOLD FAST
-- THEREFORE YOU NEED TO BE
COOL YOU NEED TO BE COOL.
>> THIS ISN'T --
>> AND YOU ALL NEED TO
RECONCILE.
GET YOURSELF TOGETHER.
JERRY: I'LL BE BACK WITH A
FINAL THOUGHT.
STAY WITH US.
yEXCERSISE? I'LL HAVE
NEWS YOU CAN USE IN TONIGHT'S
HEALTH ALERT.