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THERE IS A RATHER CRYPTIC ISSUE.
>> DOES THE FEDERAL COMPUTER
FRAUD AND ABUSE ACT APPLY TO THE
CIA?
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S A YES OR
NO QUESTION.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO
WHAT THAT ACTUALLY CALLS FOR AND
IT'S APPLICABILITY TO THE
AUTHORITIES.
>> IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT YOU WERE
RESPONDING TO THIS.
BRENNAN RESPONDED THAT THE
LETTER DOES NOT, QUOTE, PROHIBIT
INVESTIGATIVE PROTECTIVE OR
INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY OF AN
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.
FEINSTEIN MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE
THINKS THE CIA MAY HAVE VIOLATED
THE CONSTITUTION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> MR. BRENNAN DID ALSO SAY THAT
IN FACT THE COMPUTER FRAUD LAW
DOES APPLY TO THEM AND THE
REALITY IS THAT THOSE COMPUTERS,
IN EFFECT, BELONG TO THE CIA BUT
WERE RESERVED EXCLUSIVELY FOR
THE COMMITTEE'S YOUTH AND WHAT
THIS GOES TO, THE FUNDAMENTAL
QUESTION HERE IS WHETHER THE
CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES IS
GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO EFFECTIVE
OVERSIGHT OVER THE INTELLIGENCE
APPARATUS AND AGAIN AND AGAIN,
THE INTELLIGENCE LEADERSHIP HAS
IN EFFECT THWARTED THE ABILITY
OF CONGRESS TO GET THE
INFORMATION IT NEEDS TO DO THAT
OVERSIGHT.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT BY
SEARCHING IN THESE COMPUTERS AND
DOING WHAT THE CIA ADMITS IT DID
BACK WHEN BRENNEN MET WITH
FEINSTEIN AND SAXBY CHAMBLISS,
DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A
VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF
THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OR ANY
OTHER FEDERAL LAW?
>> I THINK THAT THE FACTS THAT
WERE LAID OUT BY THE COMMITTEE
CHAIR, SENATOR FEINSTEIN TODAY,
ARE VERY CREDIBLE AND, YES, THE
REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION
THAT YOU PUT ON TAPE, JAKE, IS
THAT I THINK IT RAISES VERY
TROUBLING QUESTIONS.
AND I ALSO, BEFORE WE GO ANY
FURTHER, WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT
I THINK IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
I'M BECOMING CONVINCED THAT THE
CIA IS SIMPLY FEARFUL OF THE
INTERROGATION REPORT BEING MADE
PUBLIC AND I THINK IT'S TIME FOR
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO GET THAT
INFORMATION, THEY OUGHT TO GET
IT CONSISTENT WITH MAKING SURE
THAT A NATIONAL SECURITY
INFORMATION IS NOT CONTAINED AND
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT
TO KNOW.
>> BRENNEN, WHEN ASKED ABOUT
THIS TODAY, DENIED HACKING INTO
SENATE COMPUTERS.
THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT HE'S
ACCUSED OF DOING, THOUGH, IS IT?
>> I THINK SENATOR FEINSTEIN
LAID THAT OUT IN A VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD MANNER.
WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS
WHETHER OR NOT THE AGENCY IS
GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
SAID AND THAT IS VIGOROUS
OVERSIGHT IS NECESSARY AND IN
FACT THE CONSTITUTION SPEAKS TO
IT.
WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
>> EDWARD SNOWDEN POINTED OUT
WHAT HE CONSIDERS TO BE
HYPOCRISY BY SENATOR FEINSTEIN
CALLING THIS A CONSTITUTIONAL
ISSUE.
HE BELIEVES THAT FEINSTEIN
THINKS IT'S A SCANDAL ONLY WHEN
IT HAPPENS TO A POLITICIAN.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO EDWARD
SNOWDEN?
>> MY VIEW IS THAT THIS IS A
PART OF A PATTERN BY THE
INTELLIGENCE LEADERSHIP.
WE SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, KEITH
ALEXANDER SAY WE DON'T HOLD DATA
ON U.S. CITIZENS.
I CONSIDER THAT TO BE ONE OF THE
MOST FALSE STATEMENTS THAT'S
BEEN MADE ABOUT IT.
AND TODAY IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME,