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>> SECOND TIME WE'RE HERE.
SHE'S STILL THE SAME THING.
>> LUBERTHA WANTS A SECOND
CHANCE TO WIN BACK HER
EX-BOYFRIEND LUTHER.
>> I'M GOING TO TAKE HIM
BACK.
JERRY: DON'T TEST HER.
>> VICTOR'S MOM SORTS IT ALL
OUT.
>> SAID STOP.
YOU MAY KNOW ABOUT TALK
SHOWS BUT I'M A MOTHER AND I
KNOW BEST.
>> THE RETURN OF LUBERTHA.
>> I'M SORRY, JERRY.
>> TODAY ON "SPRINGER."
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
and UNIVERSAL TELEVISION]
AUDIENCE: JERRY, JERRY,
JERRY, JERRY!
JERRY: THANK YOU.
OH, YOU'RE SO NICE.
THANK YOU.
HEY, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
THANK YOU.
MY GUESTS TODAY SAY THEY
HATE THE PEOPLE THEIR LOVED
ONES ARE DATING AND SAY THEY
WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO
BREAK UP THEIR RELATIONSHIPS
ONCE AND FOR ALL.
OK.
MY FIRST GUEST HAS BEEN HERE
BEFORE.
WHO COULD FORGET THE HAIR
PULLING ANTICS OF LUBERTHA
AND LAQUITA.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> THEY HAVE KIDS TOGETHER.
IT'S OVER BETWEEN YOU AND
HIM.
HE'S A FATHER TO HIS
CHILDREN.
LET HIM BE THAT.
HE DON'T WANT YOU.
>> LET HIM KNOW.
HOW DO YOU KNOW?
HOW DO YOU KNOW?
>> I'VE BEEN -- YOU'VE BEEN
SEPARATED FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.
>> NO.
THAT'S OFF AND ON BECAUSE
YOU KEPT COMING INTO --
>> YOU CAN'T BE DOING THAT.
RELAX.
>> LET GO.
LET GO.
JERRY: OK.
WELL, PLEASE WELCOME
LUBERTHA BACK TO THE SHOW.
HERE IS LUBERTHA.
JERRY: HI, LUBERTHA.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
WHAT -- YOU BROUGHT A CAKE,
WHY?
>> YES, BECAUSE SINCE VICTOR
BEEN WITH LAQUITA, HE HAS
NOT HAD HIS CAKE.
I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO HIM.
JERRY: THAT'S HIS FAVORITE
DESERT?
>> YES.
JERRY: WHAT IS THE DEAL NOW?
LET'S BRING PEOPLE UP TO
DATE HERE YOU HAVE BEEN WITH
VICTIM FOR SOME TIME.
>> YES.
JERRY: YOU HAVE THREE
CHILDREN WITH HIM.
>> YES.
JERRY: AND THEN ALL OF A
SUDDEN HE'S OFF AND SLEEPING
WITH LAKITA?
>> YES.
JERRY: WHERE DOES IT STAND
NOW?
>> WELL, I STILL LOVE VICTOR
AND WANT TO BE WITH VICTOR
AND I'M NOT -- I WILL WANT
-- I WILL HAUNT VICTORY AND
HER UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.
JERRY: EVEN THOUGH HE'S
MOVED ON AND SAYS HE'S WITH
SOMEONE ELSE?
>> I DON'T CARE.
I'M GOING TO HAUNT THEM
UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.
I'M NOT LEAVING WITHOUT MY
MAN.
I'M NOT LEAVING WITHOUT HIM.
JERRY: AND YOU BROUGHT THE
CAKE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO
TRY TO WIN HIM BACK?
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM
BACK.
I'M NOT GOING TO WIN HIM
BACK.
I'M GOING TO TAKE HIM BACK.
JERRY: OK.
WELL, THE PERSON YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE HIM
BACK FROM, OF COURSE --
>> IS LAKITA.
JERRY: AND HERE IS LAKITA.
>> HI, JERRY.
JERRY: HI.
HOW HAS IT BEEN SINCE THE
LAST TIME YOU WERE ON THE
SHOW?
VICTOR IS LIVING WITH YOU?
>> YES, HE IS.
JERRY: WELL, WHAT DO YOU
WANT TO SAY TO HER?
>> I'M JUST SAYING HE'S NOT
GOING ANYWHERE.
HE'S WITH ME.
HE'S STAYING WITH ME.
>> NO, HE'S NOT.
>> JUST ASK HIM.
WE HAVE A LITTLE SURPRISE
FOR YOU.
ALL I CAN SAY IS ASK HIM.
>> I HAVE A SURPRISE FOR
YOU.
>> NOW WHAT?
NOW WHAT?
>> IT'S ALL GOOD.
ONE LOVE.
IT'S ALL GOOD.
>> SHE'S GONE.
>> GET OFF ME.
JERRY: IF A MAN IS WALKING
DOWN THE STREET AND SUDDENLY
--
>> HE'S MINE.
HE'S MINE.
HE'S STAYING WITH ME.
HE'S STAYING.
YOU WANT TO GET IT ON?
>> WHATEVER.
>> YOU WANT TO GET IT ON?
>> WHATEVER.
>> DO YOU WANT TO GET IT ON?
>> COME BACK AND HAVE A
SEAT.
AUDIENCE: GO JERRY, GO
JERRY, GO JERRY, GO JERRY,
GO JERRY!
>> HERE, YOU HAVE TO WEAR
THIS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS ON.
JERRY: HEY, VICTOR, YOU GOT
A CAKE.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
STAY WITH US.
>> WHERE YOU GOING?
COME BACK OVER HERE.
COME BACK.
WHERE YOU GOING?
JERRY: WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> I SAID STOP!
GET YOUR BUTT OUT OF HERE!
JERRY: I'M BACK.
WELCOME BACK.
TODAY'S SPECIAL IS A LAYERED
CAKE.
OK.
IF YOU JUST JOINED US, THERE
YOU SEE LUBERTHA WHO HAS
BEEN WITH VICTORY FOR A
WHOLE BUNCH -- WELL, HE'S
SURROUNDED NOW BY TWO WOMEN.
>> WHY YOU GOT TO PLAY?
WHY YOU GOT TO PLAY?
>> HOLD ON.
THIS HAS GONE TOO FAR.
TWO WORDS FOR YOU.
FIRST OF ALL YOUN
STALKING ME FOR A WHILE.
I GAVE YOU A CHANCE BACK IN
THE DAYS.
GAVE YOU A CHANCE.
YOU MESSED UP.
A STRAINING ORDER.
THERE YOU GO, GIRLFRIEND.
MOVE OVER.
>> THIS IS TO STAY 100 FEET
AWAY.
I WILL BE CAMPED OUT YOUR
DOOR LOOKING AT YOU WITH
DIANE COLLARS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
>> I WILL CALL THE COPS.
>> IT'S NO GOOD.
IT'S STILL 100 FEET.
>> THERE'S SOMEBODY FOR
EVERYBODY.
I'M NOT FOR YOU.
THERE'S SOMEBODY FOR
EVERYBODY.
>> NO.
NO.
I'M GOING TO BE WITH YOU.
>> MAYBE IN YOUR MINE BUT
NOT PHYSICAY, NOT.
NOT ME, NO.
SORRY.
AIN'T GOING THAT WAY, GIRL
LISTEN, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE
ON, FIND SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO.
I'M GOING TO MOVE 100 FEET
AWAY FROM YOU.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO
MOVE.
THAT'S ALL.
>> THAT'S FAR ENOUGH FOR ME.
KEEP OUT OF MY HAIR.
JERRY: DOESN'T IT GET OLD?
ISN'T IT DEPRESSING?
>> SECOND TIME WE'RE HERE,
IT'S STILL THE SAME OLD
THING.
SHE'S PERSISTENT, I'LL GIVE
HER THAT MUCH.
I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO MOVE
OUT OF THE STATE.
>> I'LL MOVE WHERE YOU MOVE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WHERE YOU MOVE I'LL BE.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOUR KIDS
THOUGH?
>> I'M GOING TO SEE MY KIDS
REGARDLESS.
SHE CAN'T STOP ME.
>> I WOULDN'T TRY TO.
>> I BET YOU WOULDN'T.
LIKE I SAY, JERRY, SHE DOES
THIS ALL THE TIME.
STILL SWEATING ME.
WHY DON'T SHE MOVE ON?
DON'T BE TOUCHING ME.
>> WIPE THE SWEAT OFF.
>> CHILL, MAN.
AIN'T NO NEED FOR IT.
AIN'T NO NEED.
>> I WILL SWEAT YOU ABOUT
ALL THAT.
WHATEVER.
JERRY: WHAT DO YOU GET OUT
OF THAT?
>> WANT TO BE THE CENTER OF
ALL THAT.
IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
IT'S A MONOGAMY.
THAT'S MY POINT THE WE BEEN
TOGETHER SHE DONE NOTHING
WRONG TO ME.
WE WERE TOGETHER, SHE HAD
NINE BOYFRIENDS.
JERRY: IS THAT TRUE?
>> VICTOR IS --
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
>> DON'T EVEN LIE.
DON'T EVEN LIE.
DON'T GO THE BAR.
I AIN'T GOT TIME FOR THAT.
DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT.
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
FOR A WHOLE REAR NOW.
FOR A WHOLE YEAR.
JERRY: WE'RE BRINGING OUT
VICTOR'S MOM.
VICTOR'S MOM IS HERE.
>> WHAT IS THIS?
JERRY: THIS IS VICTOR'S MOM.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
THAT'S HER SON.
>> I TAUGHT YOU BETTER THAN
THAT.
I TAUGHT YOU BETTER THAN
THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
YOU DID.
>> WHERE YOU GOING?
COME BACK OVER HERE.
COME BACK.
WHERE YOU GOING?
>> STOP IT!
CALM DOWN.
CALM DOWN.
>> NO, NO, NO, NO.
NO.
NO.
I SAID STOP.
CUT IT OUT NOW.
THERE ARE BETTER THINGS IN
LIFE THAN THIS.
>> CARL, GO GET NAPKINS.
HAVE A SEAT.
>> YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED
OF YOURSELF.
>> I TOLD HER TO LEAVE ME
ALONE.
>> WE GOT BETTER THINGS.
I GOT A SURPRISE.
>> LEAVE ME ALONE NOW.
NOW YOU GOT YOUR CAKE AND
CAN EAT IT TOO, AND YOU CAN
WEAR IT, TOO.
>> THERE AIN'T GOING TO BE
NO MORE CAKE THROWING AROUND
HERE.
JERRY: MOM?
>> OH, HI, JERRY.
JERRY: WHY DID YOU SLAP YOUR
SON?
WHY YOU UPSET WITH VICTOR?
>> NO, I'M NOT CRAZY.
YOU DON'T TREAT THE MOTHER
OF YOUR CHILDREN LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE YOUR
MIND AND YOU'RE GOING TO
CHANGE YOUR MIND NOW.
I WANT AN ANSWER.
WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE, YES
OR NO?
JERRY: DON'T HIT HIM.
>> GET YOUR BUTT OUT OF
HERE.
PUT YOUR HAND DOWN.
GET OUT OF HERE.
>> GRAB HER.
GRAB HER.
AUDIENCE: MAMA, MAMA, MAMA,
MAMA!
JERRY: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
STAY WITH US.
>> HE HITS MY SISTER AND I
REFUSE TO LET THEM BE
TOGETHER.
I WANT TO SEPARATE THEM
BECAUSE HE PLAYS RUSSIAN
ROULETTE WITH HER HEAD.
HE JUST FIVE DAYS AGO GOT A
PERMIT TO CARRY A GUN.
"SPRINGER."
JERRY: OK.
WELCOME BACK.
OH!
JERRY: I JUST SAID WELCOME
BACK.
>> SIT OVER ON THIS LAST
CHAIR, RIGHT THERE.
>> SIT DOWN.
SIT DOWN.
SIT.
SIT.
>> GRAB HER, MAN.
JERRY: WHAT IS IT ABOUT WHAT
I SAY?
>> I TOLD YOU I WAS CRAZY.
JERRY: I JUST SAID WELCOME
BACK.
>> HE GOING TO EAT IT.
>> THAT CHICK IS CRAZY.
THAT SKOOCHY IS CRAZY.
>> YOU CALLING ME A SKOOCHY?
WHAT?
WHAT?
JERRY: AREN'T YOU TIRED?
JERRY: ALL RIGHT.
LUBERTHA, HAVE A SEAT.
LOOK AT YOU.
>> LOOK AT HER, LOOK AT ME.
I'M LIKE A DAMN CIRCUS
CLOWN.
WELL, I'LL BE HONEST, NONE
OF YOU LOOK REAL GREAT RIGHT
NOW.
>> I'M TRYING TO DEFEND
MYSELF.
TRYING TO KEEP MYSELF FROM
GETTING HIT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> ACTING LIKE A MANIAC.
>> SHE'S CRAZY.
JERRY: JUST STAY WHERE YOU
ARE, LUBERTHA.
YOU'RE LOOKING REAL GOOD.
>> FOR ONE MINUTE.
JERRY: STAY WHERE YOU ARE.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, YOU
CAME ON THE STAGE, YOU SLAP
YOUR SON -- YOU'RE SLAPPING
EVERYBODY.
WHY ARE YOU SO UNHAPPY?
>> THEY'RE NOT ACTING RIGHT.
I RAISED VICTOR BETTER THAN
THIS.
>> YOU'RE UPSET VICTOR IS
LEAVING HIS CHILDREN?
>> YES.
AND HE SERVED HER.
SIT DOWN.
I TOLD YOU TO --
>> I'M FED UP.
I'M FED UP.
I AM FED UP.
I'M TIRED -- I'M SO TIRED --
>> SIT DOWN.
>> STRAIGHT UP.
JERRY: LUBERTHA -- WHY DON'T
WE SIT FOR THE REMAINDER OF
THE SHOW.
YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP COMING
OVER ALL THE TIME.
>> SHE CAN'T MAKE IT OVER
QUICK ENOUGH.
JERRY: OH, COME ON.
DON'T TEST HER.
LET'S GET SERIOUS HERE.
YOU GOT THREE KIDS AT HyOE.
>> YES.
JERRY: SO LUBERTHA, WHATEVER
ELSE HAPPENS IN THE SHOW,
YOU GOT TO KEEP THINKING,
YOU'RE THE MOTHER OF THREE
CHILDREN, SO YOU GOT TO
BEHAVE YOURSELF.
>> OK.
JERRY: ALL RIGHT.
MOM, YOU'RE SAYING -- YOU'RE
SAYING TO YOUR SON HE OUGHT
TO STAY WITH THE KIDS, BUT
LOOK, THIS IS A RELATIONSHIP
HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN AND
IT'S HARD --
>> JERRY, SHE'S AN ABUSIVE
WOMAN.
SHE'S RUSHING ME.
SHE'S RUSHING ME.
>> YOU MAY KNOW ABOUT TALK
SHOWS AND YOU MAY BE GOOD AT
TALK SHOWS BUT I'M A MOTHER
AND I KNOW ABOUT MOTHERS AND
I KNOW BEST.
I THINK HE SHOULD BE BACK
WITH HIS CHILDREN.
AUDIENCE: NO!
>> SHUT UP.
SHUT UP.
>> WHY YOU ALL SAYING NO?
WHY YOU ALL SAYING NO?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU WHOEVER IS
SAYING YES.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
JERRY: YOU HAVE A SURPRISE
FOR VICTOR?
>> YES, I DO.
SINCE HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE
THE FATHER OF HIS CHILDREN
OR HIS BOYFRIEND ANYMORE, I
BROUGHT SOMEBODY HERE WHO IS
IN LOVE WITH HER.
AUDIENCE: JERRY, JERRY,
JERRY, JERRY, JERRY, JERRY,
JERRY!
>> THAT'S MY MOTHER.
THAT'S MY MOTHER.
JERRY: ALL RIGHT.
LET'S ALL SETTLE DOWN.
ARE YOU OK, STEVE?
LET'S ALL SETTLE DOWN.
WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
JERRY: OK.
WELCOME -- I DARE NOT SAY
WELCOME BACK BECAUSE EVERY
TIME I SAY WELCOME BACK
SOMEONE CHARGES ACROSS THE
STAGE BUT -- EVERYONE STAY
IN YOUR SEAT FOR A MOMENT.
HERE'S WHAT I DON'T
UNDERSTAND.
HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE
HERE.
VICTOR YOU HAVE BEEN
SPENDING A MAJOR PART OF THE
SHOW SAYING --
>> IT'S MY MOTHER.
I DON'T CARE.
IT'S MY MOTHER.
I'M NOT THREATENED BY RODNEY
DANGERFIELD.
IT'S JUST HER.
IT'S JUST MY MOTHER.
JERRY: WHY ARE YOU ANGRY AT
HIM?
>> BECAUSE YOU DON'T PUSH MY
MOTHER.
WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEBODY --
JERRY: NO, I'D HATE IT.
>> I REST MY CASE.
>> SHE HUGGED ME FIRST.
>> HE'S GOING TO BE MY
SURROGATE SON-IN-LAW.
>> AIN'T ROOM FOR BOTH OF US
IN THIS FAMILY.
THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR BOTH OF
US IN THIS FAMILY.
>> I LOVE YOU, SON.
JERRY: WHY DO YOU WANT HER
-- NOW YOU'RE FIXING HER UP
WITH SOMEONE ELSE?
>> SHE'S BEEN DEPRESSED.
IF I CAN RELIEVE HER OF HER
ANXIETY, I CAN GET HER A
MAN.
HE'S A NICE YOUNG MAN.
JERRY: LUBERTHA, DO YOU --
SO DO YOU LIKE -- DO YOU
LIKE DANNY?
>> YES.
JERRY: WHY ARE YOU SAYING
YOU WANT TO BE BACK WITH
VICTOR?
>> SHE'S CRAZY, I TOLD YOU.
>> YOU CRAZY.
YOU CRAZY.
>> GOLD DIGGING SKOOCHY, SHE
TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY, DUDE.
>> WHATEVER.
WHATEVER.
WHATEVER.
>> HAVE 10 DIFFERENT MEN
CALLING YOUR HOUSE AT NIGHT.
THEN YOU'LL KNOW WHAT I'M
TALKING ABOUT.
JERRY: WHO RAISES THE
CHILDREN?
>> I DO.
JERRY: OK.
OK.
MOM, IF YOU'RE RAISING THE
CHILDREN, VERY CALMLY NOW,
IF YOU'RE RAISING THE
CHILDREN, WHY -- KNOWING HOW
HOSS FILL THEY ARE TOWARDS
EACH OTHER, WHY ARE YOU
TRYING TO GET THOSE TWO BACK
TOGETHER AGAIN, HONESTLY?
>> BE CAREFUL.
SHE MIGHT TRY TO SLAP YOU
TOO, MAN.
>> WATCH YOUR MOUTH.
BECAUSE I FIGURE IF THEY GOT
TOGETHER AND THEY GOT A
LITTLE COUNSELING OR
SOMETHING TO THAT ASPECT,
THIS THEY WOULD WORK IT OUT
AND IN TIME THEY WOULD BE
ABLE TO GET THEIR CHILDREN
BACK.
JERRY: HOW OLD ARE THE
CHILDREN?
>> THE CHILDREN RANGE FROM 5
TO 1-YEAR-OLD.
JERRY: DOES ANYONE ON THIS
STAGE, ANY ONE OF YOU, THINK
THAT THIS IS GOOD, THAT YOUR
KIDS GET TO SEE MOM AND DAD
ACTING LIKE THIS?
LUBERT
>> IT'S NOT GOOD, JERRY.
IT'S NOT GOOD, BUT THEY
DON'T UNDERSTAND -- THEY
DON'T UNDERSTAND RITE NOW
WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> SHE WANT TO START ACTING
LIKE A FOOL FIRST.
ACTING LIKE A MANIAC ALL THE
TIME.
THEY'RE USED TO IT.
>> THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT'S GOING ON.
JERRY: BUT WHAT THEY SEE IS
MOM PICKING UP CAKES AND
GIVING IT TO DAD.
>> I WAS TRYING TO GIVE IT
TO HIM, TO FEED IT TO HIM.
THAT'S ALL.
>> HOW WAS YOU GOING TO GIVE
IT TO HIM, IN HIS FACE?
>> NO.
>> SHE TRIED TO GET HER
BACK.
THAT WAS HER LAST RESORT.
>> SHE WANTED TO GO HOME
WITH TWO MEN.
I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT
MENAGE A TRIOS STUFF.
THAT'S NOT ME.
JERRY: YOUR SON IS NOW HAPPY
WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
>> AND ABOUT TO GET MARRIED,
BECAUSE THE MARRIAGE LICENSE
IS IN THE GREEN ROOM, SO --
>> I'M TELLING YOU ALL.
>> BEAT IT!
BEAT IT!
>> NOBODY LISTENS TO ME.
NOBODY LISTENS TO ME.
EVERY TIME I SIT DOWN SHE
RUSH ME.
YOU SEE WHAT SHE'S DOING.
>> I DON'T MAKE THAT CALL.
50 COME ON, MAN.
JERRY: OK.
HERE'SLY DEAL.
>> SHE MAKING A FOOL OUT OF
HERSELF.
JERRY: DID YOU EVER LOVE
LUBERTHA?
>> WHO ME?
AT ONE TIME I DID.
JERRY: YOU DON'T LOVE HER
NOW?
>> NO.
IT WAS PUPPY LOVE.
JERRY: YOU GUYS HAVE A
DIVORCE?
>> NO.
WE NEVEROT MARRIED.
JERRY: OH, I SEE.
>> I WAS A TEENAGER.
COME ON, MAN.
>> WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE A
DOUBLE WEDDING THEN.
>> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT --
JERRY, THE PROBLEM WITH
THAT, JERRY, IS THAT SHE
GOING TO TRY TO WRECK MY
WEDDING BECAUSE SHE'S
JEALOUS.
>> JEALOUS?
OF WHAT?
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
JERRY: MOM, HOW OFTEN --
>> EVERY TIME I SAY I'M
GETTING MARRIED, YOU RUSH
HER.
THAT PROVES YOU JEALOUS.
>> I AIN'T JEALOUS.
YOU AIN'T GETTING MARRIED.
THAT'S POINT BLANK.
>> I'M A GROWN MAN.
>> I DON'T CARE.
>> WELL, YOU GOING TO BE
TALKING TO YOURSELF THEN.
>> THIS MAN IS WILLING TO
TAKE CARE OF YOU.
YOU LET MY SON BE.
YOU'LL STILL BE MY DAUGHTER.
YOU LET HIM BE.
JERRY: HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS
LIKE, LUBERTHA.
I MEAN, CALMLY.
HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
THE AS ANGRY AS YOU GET, THE
TRUTH IS THEY'RE GOING TO
GET MARRIED.
YOU'RE STILL THE MOTHER OF
YOUR CHILDREN.
HE'S STILL GOING TO BE IN
YOUR LIFE IN TERMS OF BEING
THE FATHER TO THE CHILDREN.
IT REALLY PROBABLY IS TIME
TO MOVE ON AND GET SOME
HAPPINESS IN YOUR LIFE.
THIS IS DEPRESSING.
>> I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR
THE PAST 2, 2 1/2 YEARS,
SHE'S STILL SAYING THE SAME
THING.
I SAY MOVE ON SHE COME AFTER
ME -- SHE USED TO CALL THE
COPS, ORDER PIZZA TO MY
HOUSE.
DIDN'T ORDER NO FOOD BUT
SHE'LL SEND THEM THERE.
JERRY: DO YOU DO THAT?
>> THAT'S BULL CRAP.
I WILL COME MYSELF AND KNOCK
ON THE DOORMENT I COME AND
KNOCK ON THE DOOR, VICTOR,
VICTOR, ANY TIME I WANT TO.
JERRY: I GOT THE PIZZA RIGHT
HERE.
>> JERRY, THAT'S WHAT HE
CAME FOR, TO SHARE WITH HER
-- TO TELL HER HOW HAPPY
THEY'RE GOING TO BE AND HE'S
GOING TO MAKE HER HAPPY.
JERRY: HERE'S WHAT'S WRONG.
>> HE'D NEED TO BE A LION
TAMER TO --
>> YOU CAN'T GET SOMEONE
ELSE TO MAKE YOU HAPPY.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT TO
DO.
>> HE STILL WANTS HER
REGARDLESS.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO PLAY
HATE.
I HOPE THE TWO OF YOU WILL
JE NO.PY TOGETHER FOREVER.
YOU TWO?
THESE TWO.
>> ABOUT TWO, THREE MONTHS.
>> AND SHE'S STILL CHASING
ME.
MUST TELL YOU SOMETHING.
SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE
FAITHFUL.
>> AFTER SHE REALLY KNOWS,
SHE'LL BE FAITHFUL.
>> SHE'S --
>> SHUT UP!
JERRY: DANNY, DOES IT BOTHER
YOU THAT THE WOMAN IN YOUR
LIFE NOW SEEMS INFATUATED
WITH HER EX?
>> SOMETIMES.
>> HE TELLS HER, IF YOU CAN
GET HIM BACK, SEE IF YOU CAN
GET HIM BACK.
IF NOT, WE'LL MAKE THE BEST
OF IT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S RIGHT.
A REAL MAN.
JERRY: YOU THINK THIS IS A
HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP?
DANNY, DO YOU THINK THIS IS
A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP TO BE
IN RIGHT NOW?
>> YEAH.
SURE IS.
>> WHY?
>> I LOVE HER.
>> AND SHE LOVES YOU?
>> I HOPE SO.
JERRY: DO YOU LOVE HIM?
TALK TO HIM.
>> YES, I REALLY CARE ABOUT
YOU A LOT.
YES, I DO CARE ABOUT HIM A
LOT.
IN DUE TIME I WILL FALL IN
LOVE WITH HIM.
IN DUE TIME.
JERRY: WE'LL BE BACK.
JERRY: OK.
HOLD ON.
>> YES, HE DID PUNCH ME IN
THE MOUTH.
THOUGHT HE BROKE MY JAW.
NCHED HIM IN THE
SHE SAYS HER SISTER'S
BOYFRIEND IS SO CRUEL HE'S
THROWN HER OUT OF THE HOUSE
WITH HER 11-MONTH-OLD CHILD.
TELL US ABOUT IT.
>> MY SISTER HAS A BIGGER
PROBLEM THAN ME BEING THROWN
OUT OF THE HOUSE.
RIGHT NOW MY NEVER TO BE
BROTHER-IN-LAW, OK, HE -- HE
HITS MY SISTER, AND I REFUSE
TO LET THEM BE TOGETHER.
I WANT TO SEPARATE THEM
BECAUSE HE -- HE PLAYS
RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH HER
HEAD.
HE JUST FIVE DAYS AGO EMPTY
A PERMIT TO CARRY A GUN,
CONCEALED WEAPON, AND --
JERRY: DOES HE -- SERIOUSLY,
DOES HE REALLY PLAY RUSSIAN
ROULETTE, OR --
>> NO.
HE DOES.
JERRY: WHY DOES SHE STAY
WITH HIM?
>> SOMETHING THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO MY SISTER IS
HER PRIDE, AND SHE DOESN'T
LET NOTHING GET IN THE WAY
OF HER PRIDE.
JERRY: NOT EVEN A GUN?
I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE LIGHT
OF THAT, BUT --
>> NOTHING.
NOTHING.
JERRY: THIS IS SERIOUS
STUFF.
>> NOTHING.
NOTHING.
MY SISTER WILL STAY.
SHE COVERS IT A LOT.
SHE --
JERRY: HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT
HE PLAYS RUSSIAN ROULETTE?
>> HOW DO I KNOW?
BECAUSE SHE TELLS ME AND
ALSO THREE MONTHS AGO I HAD
TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
MY SISTER'S JAW.
SHE THOUGHT HER JAW WAS
BROKE FROM HIM PUNCHING HER
IN THE FACE.
SO --
JERRY: WELL, LET'S BRING HIM
OUT.
HIS NAME IS MIKE.
>> OH, NO, NO, NO.
YOU LIE.
YOU LIE.
YOU LIE BIGGER THAN --
>> JUST STOP.
WHY DON'T YOU HIT ME?
>> DON'T TOUCH ME.
DON'T [BEEP] TOU E.
I DON'T HIT NOBODY.
UH-UH.
>> YOU DON'T HIT NOBODY.
YOU DIDN'T PUNCH MY SISTER
IN THE JAW.
YOU DIDN'T KNOCK HER OUT.
>> DON'T TOUCH ME WITH ALL
YOUR DISEASES, ***.
>> MY DISEASES, MY DISEASES.
>> YEAH.
JERRY: OK.
PETRA, HAVE A SEAT.
>> YOU GOT A BIG [BEEP]
MOUTH AND IT'S ALL LIES.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN
DO.
PUCKER UP.
PUT IT RIGHT THERE.
PUT IT RIGHT THERE.
JERRY: MIKE, DID YOU EVER
HIT HER?
>> MY GIRLFRIEND?
>> YEAH, MY SISTER.
>> YEAH.
WE'VE HAD A FALLING OUT ONCE
OR TWICE, YEAH.
JERRY: BUT I HIT HER?
>> HER YEAH JAW.
>> SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF
HERSELF.
JERRY: IT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOU CAN'T EVER HIT A WOMAN.
WHAT ABOUT THE GUN?
>> HE HAS MY SISTER
CONVINCED THAT SHE DESERVES
IT.
JERRY: YOU PLAY RUSSIAN
ROULETTE?
>> NEVER.
THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE [BEEP]
LIE.
YOU ARE A [BEEP] LIAR.
I'M PACKING HER UP AND MY
KID.
WE'RE GETTING OUT OF HERE.
WE DON'T NEED YOUR [BEEP]
ANYMORE.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU ALWAYS
DO.
JERRY: HOLD ON.
HERE'S YOUR SISTER.
HERE'S YOUR SISTER NANITA.
JERRY: OK.
NANITA, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
HAVE A SEAT.
I GOT TO HEAR THIS STRAIGHT.
OK.
DID YOU EVER -- DID YOU GUYS
PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE?
>> NO.
NO.
>> THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED.
>> NO.
JERRY: IS IT BECAUSE YOU'RE
AFRAID TO SAY SO?
>> NO.
I'M NOT AFRAID!
I'M NOT AFRAID!
>> HAS NO REASON TO BE
AFRAID OF ME.
>> WHAT'S WRONG?
>> DO I LET ANYBODY HIT ME?
ANYBODY?
HE DON'T HIT ME.
HE HITS ME WHEN I HIT HIM.
THAT'S BULL CRAP.
NOBODY HITS ME.
OOH NEED TO MIND YOUR OWN
BUSINESS, ***.
ROUND UP YOUR [BEEP] KIDS --
>> YOU STOP!
YOU STOP!
>> YOU --
>> YOU STOP!
THIS IS BULL.
JERRY: OK.
>> TELLING THESE [BEEP]
PEOPLE THAT MY MAN HITS ME,
FOR NOTHING.
YES, HE DID PUNCH ME IN MY÷
MOUTH.
I THOUGHT I BROKE MY JAW.
PUNCHED HIM IN HIS MOUTH,
TOO.
HE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL.÷
JERRY: OK.
DOES THIS -- DOES THIS
STRIKE EITHER OF YOU AS A
HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP?
>> NOT ENTIRELY, NO.
>> THINGS GET TENSE, BUT --
>> WHEN WE'RE GOOD, WE'RE
VERY GOOD.
WHEN WE'RE BAD, WE'RE VERY
BAD.
JERRY: IS THERE A CHILD
INVOLVED?
>> YES.
JERRY: YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN, AND I JUST MET
YOU GUYS.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN IS THAT CHILD IS
GOING TO GROW UP AND HAVE
PROBLEMS WITH ABUSE BECAUSE
HE SEES YOU TWO WITH EACH
OTHER.
>> OUR SON DOES NOT SEE US
HIT EACH OTHER.
JERRY: I DON'T CARE WHAT
KIND OF TEMPER SHE HAS AND
EVEN IF SHE DOES HIT YOU,
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DO, YOU
GRAB YOUR JAW AND WALK OUT
OF THE HOUSE.
>> HE TRIES TO GET HELL
AWAY.
>> I DID.
>> HE TRIES TO GET AWAY.
JERRY: THEN WHY ARE YOU
DOING IT?
>> BECAUSE I GOT A TEMPER.
BECAUSE I GOT A TEMPER.
JERRY: DON'T HIT ANOTHER
HUMAN BEING
>> ALL I'M SAYING IS I DON'T
LIKE TO BE SAID I'M SOME
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIM,
BECAUSE I AIN'T.
JERRY: WHERE DID YOU GET THE
STORY OF THE GUN THEN?
>> HE'S GOT A GUN.
HE DID SAY HE WAS GOING TO
SHOOT ME.
>> AND HE'S GOING TO SHOOT
HER.
HE GETS DRUNK AND HE'S GOING
TO SHOOT HER.
>> MAYBE HE WILL.
MAYBE SOMEDAY HE'LL SHOOT
YOU AND THAT WOULD HURT ME
MORE.
WHY DON'T YOU AND HIM JUST
AGREE TO DISAGREE.
YOU'RE MY SISTER.
I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE MY
SISTER.
JERRY: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A
BREAK.
WHEN WE COME BACK, QUESTIONS
FROM THE AUDIENCE.
JERRY: WELCOME BACK.
THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, VICTOR, I WANT TO
KNOW -- YOU SAID THAT YOU
AND -- WHAT'S HER NAME?
>> LUBERTHA.
JERRY: LUBERTHA.
>> LUBERTHA JUST HAD PUPPY
LOVE.
THEN WHY DID YOU HAVE
CHILDREN WITH HER?
>> LIKE I SAID, I WAS YOUNG.
I THOUGHT -- WHEN I WAS
YOUNG, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW
WHAT I WANTED.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
SHE'S WHAT I WANTED WHEN I
WAS YOUNG.
WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER.
HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART BUT
AFTER THAT IT WAS OVER.
>> WELL, USE A *** THEN.
>> I GOT A QUESTION FOR --
>> IN EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS.
>> WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE
MARRIED TO SOMEBODY THAT IS
GOING TO SPEND THE REFUSE
HER LIFE TRYING TO BE WITH
THAT MAN OVER THERE?
>> BECAUSE I'M IN THE
PICTURE NOW.
I'M IN THE PICTURE NOW, BIG
MAN.
I'M IN THE PICTURE NOW.
IT'S ME NOW.
>> YOU WAS IN THE PICTURE
THREE MONTHS AGO AND SHE WAS
STILL STALKING ME THREE
MONTHS AGO.
IT'S OVER NOW.
>> I HOPE SO.
IT'S OVER NOW, MAN.
>> I GOT A QUESTION FOR
VICTOR, IF THAT'S YOUR
GIRLFRIEND, WHY DON'T YOU
PROTECT HER FROM BEING BEAT
UP?
>> I PROTECT HER THE BEST I
CAN.
>> BEATING YOU UP?
>> WHO ME?
>> YEAH.
>> NOTHING LIKE THAT WHEN I
CAME OUT.
>> WHEN YOU GO HOME, YOU
WATCH THE SHOW AND SEE WHO
GOT BEAT.
>> WHEN YOU GO HOME YOU --
>> THE COUPLE IN THE MIDDLE,
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO USE
VIOLENCE WHEN YOU'RE ANGRY?
>> WE DON'T HAVE TO.
JERRY: IT'S A RESPONSE OF
CHOICE.
>> YOU DO -- OBVIOUSLY IF
YOU'RE GOING TO THE HOSPITAL
FOR A BROKEN JAW.
>> MY JAW WASN'T BROKEN.
I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS.
>> OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE USING
VIOLENCE THAT SHOULD NOT BE
THERE.
>> IT'S HAPPENED TWICE.
>> LOTS.
>> LOTS, HELL.
LOOK WHO IS VIOLENT.
WHO IS SHOVING WHO UP HERE?
>> THAT'S BECAUSE I ACTUALLY
GOT THE TIME -- CHANCE TO
HIT YOU FOR ALL THE TIMES
YOU HIT MY SISTER.
>> VICTOR, YOU'RE SUPPOSED
TO BE A MAN.
YOU GOT ALL THESE KIDS.
DON'T YOKNOW YOU SUPPOSED
TO USE RUBBERS?
>> I DO NOW.
>> AND YOU -- YOU SHOULD NOT
BE WASTING YOUR TIME
FIGHTING OVER NO MAN.
YOU SITTING THERE FIGHTING
OVER HUMP AT THIS DUMP AT
THIS -- HUMPTY DUMPTY.
>> YOU LOOK LIKE -- STRAIGHT
UP.
ED TO SIT YOUR IS A
DOWN, YOU FAKE JAMAICAN.
SIT YOUR FAKE JAMAICAN ***
DOWN.
LIKE A GOLD DIGGER.
LOOK AT YOU.
SIT DOWN.
YOU SO BIG, YOU --
JERRY: VICTOR --
>> LOOK AT YOUR FAT ***.
SIT YOUR BIG *** DOWN.
THEY GOT A WHOLE BENCH FOR
YOU.
>> I LOVE MY SON.
>> I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU
TWO -- FOR YOU TWO.
WHO HIT TWO FIRST AND
WHOEVER GOT HIT FIRST, WHY
DIDN'T YOU GET OUT?
>> I HIT HIM FIRST.
HE TRIES TO GET OUT AND THEN
HE HITS ME TO MAKE ME STOP
HITTING HIM -- IT'S A FIST
FIGHT.
>> THE COPS COME AND TAKE
HIM OUT THEN?
>> THE COPS CAME AND TOLD ME
THAT THEY COULD SEPARATE US,
OTHERWISE THEY HAD TO ARREST
BOTH OF US.
SO THEY SEPARATED US AND
TOOK HIM.
JERRY: WE'LL BE BACK WITH A
FINAL THOUGHT.
STAY WITH US.