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Kevin Kao: So, you've obviously been teaching for a long time, and I'm
wondering what changes have you seen in piano students from when you
first started teaching and piano students now?
Dr. J. Mitzi Kolar: Well, and we're talking about San Diego in
Southern California, but I hear from teachers all over the United
States, and I don't think I've had a recent conversation with somebody
in Europe. But here in the United States, and particularly since you
and I are in Southern California, where the students are becoming even
more involved in so many activities, and the academic push for
achievement that many of them are striving for is beginning to make
practice at a reasonable hour, and, in the right conditions,
more difficult.
And, in fact, this past weekend, at the music teacher Sonatina
Festival here in San Diego, certainly Jane Bastien, the chair of the
event, and I had quite a discussion about what kinds of changes we
were seeing in our students. But, they're very heavily involved, and
so, the biggest challenge, I think, that current piano teachers are
going to have is, first of all, getting those students to the lessons
on a regular basis where they aren't in band concerts or swimming or
soccer, you name it. And that the students, their time is - they're
competing for many minutes in a day, with many different activities.
So that's, I think, the biggest change.
Students still present the same kinds of practice issues. I've had
wonderful students throughout my career, very bright students. Others,
more challenging, that come with emotional issues. I think that's
changed so much because students are also, I think, involved in so
much, sometimes, just as we are, as adults, are a little more
scattered. Because we have our iPods and our telephones, our cell phones
chiming at us all the time, that it's easy to become very
distracted. And so, sometimes, I find the challenge of even developing
the concentration that's needed has changed a little bit because we
are just bombarded with just so many different things coming at us.
Kevin: So, you've actually seen a change in children's ability to
concentrate from when you first started teaching to now?
Dr. Kolar: Not for all students, but, in general, yes. And also with
college students, who are even more distracted by texting than high
school students. Certainly, I think you would see that university
professors would tell you that when students can come in with a
computer that they're much more easily distracted by checking their
email than listening to the lecture, so that you start seeing that the
students are a little more scattered. So yes, I'd say that. Does that
mean the student can't learn to concentrate?
I think that's one of the beauties of piano instruction. In fact, a
parent tonight was telling the student that was with me, you can't lie
when you come for piano teaching. It should become very apparent if
the student has been able to concentrate and have good practice at
home. And certainly, the discipline of practice and concentration that
we must have when we are studying piano is a very important element.
So, I have students who develop it very well, and certainly that's
another thing, as a piano teacher, we have to be aware of is how to
keep our students involved in their lesson.
My first lesson this afternoon was with a student who is a first
grader, and mom was asking how much time the student should practice.
And I said, well, when she's not with me in a lesson - because this
student takes a 45-minute lesson, and she's right with me the entire
time, but the lesson is designed so we're moving through a lot of
different activities. We're interacting, we're answering questions,
we're looking at ideas about our music, so that she has wonderful
concentration for those forty-five minutes. It's really right there
all the time. But, her mom says, when she's home alone practicing,
that it's a little hard, so one of the things I suggest to do is
breaking it into smaller segments where she can keep
Kevin: What are some misconceptions that you feel are out there
her concentration for longer.
about piano lessons?
Dr. Kolar: Well, and I have major colleagues across the country who
may disagree with what I'm going to say, that, first of all, that it's
all just fun. And yes, fun can be important, and yes, one must enjoy
what they're doing. When they come to lesson, I think everybody's
philosophy should be that the student should start the day, and end
the day, finding the joy in music. A lot of parents say, I just want
them to experience this. So, that's one thing.
Generally, what I have found that a parent means when they say, I just
want my student to experience having music, it means being able to
play a piece and have a little bit of fun. And, what parents
oftentimes don't recognize is that to become good at anything, whether
it's the next great Michael Phelps swimming, or the next Gabby Douglas
as a gymnast, or the next Lang Lang as a classical pianist, or even
the next best mathematician or physicist, that it takes hard work.
That we would not say, I just want them to have fun with their math.
That, obviously, you have to have a strong grounding and move forward
in anything in life. And so, I think, too, oftentimes parents don't
understand the importance of practice, that becoming good at anything
takes a little bit of dedication. And, sometimes that means that, even
though mom and dad are really tired at night, that it may mean finding
that extra energy to help the student and supervise
the student in their practice.
A lot of times it's just, if a teacher has had a couple of years, we
can study down the street with Suzy because she did piano for two
years, so now she can teach my son or daughter. I think, certainly,
you wouldn't want to put your son or daughter into an elementary
classroom with somebody who has only got two years of mathematical
experience to teach them mathematics. Yes, it can help with the
practice at home, but that's, I think, sometimes it's also parents
knowing who they're looking for to find as a qualified teacher.
Kevin: Actually, that goes well into the next question. What are some
misconceptions that you know about, that you hear about piano teachers?
Dr. Kolar: Well, the largest thing - and one of your colleagues
actually did a thesis study for me, and I was quite disappointed with
the statistics that she gathered in her study, to see that teachers
weren't changing. I would, like most of my colleagues across the
country who have pedagogy programs who are very devoted to improving
the teaching of piano, would be very discouraged to hear that a lot of
piano teaching is still done by people who don't have degrees in
music, who maybe don't know their repertoire very well and haven't
taken time to look at how to teach piano well.
And it was also discouraging in Katie's study to see that a lot of
people, you were saying how you now go home and think about your
lessons, that too many people teach a lesson, don't come prepared.
They don't have a lesson plan, write the lesson in the thirty minutes
that they're sent the student out, and that there isn't a desire to
try to help the student expand their knowledge and really grow
in many ways, musically.
And so, what Katie was finding in her study is that too many of the
people teaching piano were not participating in workshops or going to
conferences where they could learn a little bit more. So, hopefully,
as we get more online resources that you and I have talked about, that
more of the people who are teaching will take some time to - like you
going home and thinking about your lessons, saying how could I do this
better, that the bigger field of piano teachers are constantly
evaluating their skills and trying to improve. The whole idea is to
make it better for the child who is studying music, and whom we want
to develop a love of the instrument, and of the music
that they're playing.
Kevin: Now, you mentioned that the piano teaching part of it. And, I
ask this question because I have the same misconception where, as an
undergrad, and I've shared this with you before, that getting my
bachelor's in piano performance, I figured, I play decent, I'm a nice
person, I'm good with kids, I'm good with parents, I'm kind of funny
sometimes. So I thought, I'm a good piano teacher, give me some
students right now. But, then, when I went to get my master's and
started taking all the pedagogy courses, that's when I really realized
that there's so much to piano teaching than just
being able to play piano.
Everything that we've talked about, so far, about pedagogy, it's just
so much information. And, going through the program, it's one thing
like, okay, I've got all this knowledge about pedagogy, I'm good.
Instead, now I'm thinking, wow there's so much more to learn. And, you
talk about the workshops, the classes. Now, it's like, okay, I need to
go to these things and learn even more about how to teach as opposed
to just relying on whatever I knew before or how I was taught, if I
could remember how I was taught, and just being able to play. So, I
think that's one thing that was a big eye-opener for myself going to a
pedagogy program. Okay, so, do you have anything to add to that?
Dr. Kolar: Well, in fact, there is so much to know, and anyone who
works for children or advancing students - and college-age students -
has to understand their processes of learning. Which, as someone who
hasn't had any educational background, apart from even just music, who
hasn't looked at how students learn, what are the psychological issues
in their development that support their success in music? Being aware
of what their support systems are in the home and with the parents.
Then, in going back to our initial discussions about, okay, what is it
that we teach, why do we teach methods, and what is it that we're
trying to project in those methods, how do we organize our teaching
materials? All the literature and, as you know from pedagogy class,
one semester in intermediate pedagogy class does not cover all of the
repertoire that's available. Whether the material has been written by
our wonderful pedagogical composers across this country and around the
world, or whether it's the standard repertoire, we have so much music,
and we have jazz, and we have duets. We have so much that we can do,
and each one presents activities, problems that we have to solve with
the student. So, no, that all can't be learned by just
learning how to play the piano yourself.
Kevin: Some more personal questions. If you have to recommend some
books for either parents or piano teachers, piano in general, what are
some books that are your favorites, and that you
go back to and reference?
Dr. Kolar: Oh, my, okay. And I need to update some of these. In terms
of just knowing the repertoire, we have so many wonderful books now
that teach us about - that are important to my library, whether it's
Maurice Hinson's Guide to the Pianist's Repertoire or Jane Magrath's
teaching repertoire. Cathy Albergo and Reid Alexander's intermediate
rep guide, all of those materials are vital to me. In fact, my Maurice
Hinson is sitting next to my computer right now because I'm beginning
to prepare students for certificate of merit. So, there's those types
of books. Then, I have my favorites on teaching. So, certainly, some
of the books we looked at were Robert Duke's books, the University of
Texas professor, his are wonderful books about teaching. Of course,
going back to cognitive development, I'm a strong advocate for Bruner
and all of the cyclic and sequential-type learning. Then, if you start
launching into all the special books on each individual composer,
whether it's books on how Chopin taught, or there's all these
wonderful books, the list goes on and on. Just like the teaching,
one can read for the rest of their life.
Kevin: Could I check out your library after the interview and see what
kind of books you have?
Dr. Kolar: Actually, most of it is in my storage closet because I
haven't been able to bring it to my house yet, along with all my piano
literature from San U State. So, it's still in the storage closet
because I've got to organize what I've got to do
because it's all coming here.
Kevin: Okay, I'll take a look after this interview.
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