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What exactly did you want to say?
*** off, you ***,
I hate you
I want more money, why do I have to work
stop telling me what to do
all coppers are ***
You know, what does a young man want to say when he's angry?
But then...
speaking with Penny Rimbaud it was a bit more well,
perhaps really think about what you want or what you don't like and
then be a bit more political about it
or personal political and a bit more poetic.
And then, owe us a living, of course they *** do!
And I still want to say those things anyway.
So you didn't change really?
No! But the trouble is now I don't know how to say it,
Here's me at 48 years old still going *** off!
I hate you!
But it's not quite the same with a bald head!!
# I am a product #
# I am a symbol #
# Of endless #
# hopeless #
# fruitless #
# aimless #
# games #
# I'm a glossy packages on the supermarket shelf. #
# My contents aren't fit for human consumption. #
# I could tragically injure your perfect health. #
# My ingredients will seize up your body function. #
# I'm the dirt that everyone walks on. #
# I am the orphan nobody wants. #
# I am the staircarpet everyone walks on. #
# I am the *** nobody wants to touch #
# Much #
# I am a sample. #
# I am a scapegoat #
# Of useless #
# futureless #
# endless #
# mindless ideas #
# I'm a number on the paper you file away. #
# I'm a portfolio you stick in the drawer. #
# I'm the fool you try to scare when you say #
# "We know all about you, of that you can be sure". #
# Well, I don't want your crazy system, #
# I don't want to be on your files. #
# Your temptations I try to resist them #
# Cos I know what hides beneath your smiles #
There was David Bowie song called Ziggy Stardust
and there's a line in it where he says
Ziggy played guitar, driving us that he was voodoo
The kid was just crass
and crass means grossly stupid
and pathetic so yeah that was a good name.
At that time it was fun to be ignorant and stupid
That's why I chose the name Ignorant for myself
because at that time I was really ignorant about politics
I didn't know what I wanted or what I wanted to do
And Pete had said to me before, "You're an ignorant ***"
Steve Ignorant... simple as that.
Well Steve was from basically quite a poor working class background,
and I was from quite a wealthy upper class well upper middle class background
and generally speaking I think it is true to say
that most bands are made up of people from the same background
because generally speaking younger people tend to hang around
with people from their own background, because it's more comfortable for them.
and that did make us different
my middle class off the street experience
and Steve's working class on the street experience
made a very very interesting combination I think.
Yeah it's not like I'm right wing or nothing,
but England is the best country in the world!
No!
I've never seen any difference between bohemian, beatnick, hippy, punk.
I mean they were all one and the same
I regard that just as a sort of authenticity
an attempt to achieve some sort of authentic lifestyle.
Come on, earn your money!
*** ***!
What a ***!
*** idiot!
My brother took me to visit Dial House
and at that time I was not a skinhead
but it was the fashion afterwards in England called suedeheads
and I went there and I couldn't understand what the hell was going on
these people had stones in their living room as ornaments...
*** stones in your house?
They should be in the garden!
Using words I'd never heard of before but
what I really liked about Penny Rimbaud and Gee was that for the first time in my life
if they asked me a question or if I ever said something they'd respect
they'd answer me and treat me as anequal
and it's the first time I'd ever had that so I kept going back to visit.
So when me and Pen were starting Crass
we could just...
it didn't matter, it really didn't matter
because I just used to live with my parents in Dagenham
and whatever I said...because I was into poetry
and all this sort of stuff and I'd discovered a bloke called,
I'd read a book by Oscar Wilde called "A Picture of Dorian Gray"
and I really got into poetry and I started writing my own poetry
and writing songs because I wanted to be David Bowie,
but my Mum and Dad always said you'll never do it
and the usual working class thing,
you're headed for a factory...
but for the first time when I first met Penny Raimbaud and Gee
I was for the first time listened to as a human being,
as an adult even though I was only thriteen years old
and trying to talk out of my little arsehole about Whitman or something,
having a conversation with a bloke
who was older than me,
who had been to college
and sort of done things.
I just thought that was fantastic
For the first time someone was actually interested in my opinion
and I'd never had that before,
that's a pretty big thing...
and so when it was Crass...
it was the same thing, we were just friends
I'd always respected him for that
he's always respected that from me.
and we did blow away that upper class/working class divide
and we were just two guys doing it.
# Mummy and daddy owned me till I could understand #
# At the end of my arm was my own *** hand #
# In my head I had a brain that they filled up with lies #
# I didn't *** need them with their love and family ties #
# Little children shouldn't speak until they're spoken to #
# Just another showpiece to show the neighbours who #
# Can produce the perfect babe with everything in place #
# God help you if you come out without an angel face #
# If you haven't got the looks that prove how nice you are #
# You'll have failed your duty and that's all you *** are #
# You're just a status symbol that they need to have in life #
# Just the proof they need to be the perfect man and wife #
We all lived in the same house...
You couldn't have...
You couldn't have Crass, without what was happening in our personal lives..
it was all interwoven, you couldn't separate them, so...
it never stopped.
It wasn't like...
we went to the rehearsal studio, and then we "played" Crass...
the rehearsal room was in our house.
It was like: "Oh, ok, we should...
... do some more rehearsing. "
It never stopped.
The phone was ringing.
People were coming to visit all the time.
Punks came in the garden, so you could never get away from it.
The experience me was, just it never stopped.
It was a lifestyle.
A good one.
I wouldn't change it. I wouldn't change it.
We never had rules.
For example, if with 15 people, all living in the same place...
if there was washing up to be done,
it wasn't a rule-in Wednesday Steve does the washing up...
you just did it.
And the whole way of living like that was...
consideration for other people first.
- Is it gone? - No, it's still up there.
Mick's taking some film.
- Try getting it. - Quick...
- It's like it's a *** swamp with all these flies... - How high is it?
- Right at the top. I think it's by the top branches. - As usual.
- That's odd. I just...