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senator jeff markley representing the great state of organism along his
markley anne r k elly white at senate dot gov is his website
senator welcome back to the program uh... thank you tom good to be with you
great to have you here com you are working on the disclose that tell me
about this
well this is the basic principle that one large donations occur everyone to
have a right to know where the money's coming from
it's straight ported that
nearest available responses citizens united
and uh... wiccan hope we can pass it tonight
well here's a question i have
the republicans seem to be all over this if you're gonna vote you've got a show
and i do you think
you know we we were more both familiar with that
um whyy it with the if there's so much all about knowing who the voters are
having people show i d
why is it that if you're going to spend
uh... thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or millions of
dollars on election
they wanna see ready
well you can come up with a few years ago therefore we've witnessed beyond
limit donations
poll disclosure unlimited disclosure
but i got the unlimited money out to the united suddenly uh... disclosure uh...
they're they're hundred adri u-turn
that it uh... it i mean it's clear they they looked at the fact that the that
spoke of that money is coming in their coffers and then said well so much for
principle
uh... we're going to we're gonna we received the moment here and and uh...
not let people know what's coming from well not only that they already have
long law on their side in a partisan fashion inasmuch as in nineteen
forty-seven taft-hartley act for quite a ride
all unions to disclose any of their political activities in full for the
department labor as as a public document
so any union expenditures are already fully divulged but corporations now
since citizens united bake the young complain the same plainfield but
corporations don't have to devote a and then billionaires don't have to divulge
system know it's a great quite literally the two sides here there's the donation
vienna vienna pan expenditures there is the actual activity itself they hadn't
uh... really boulter sheltered
on the corner corporate side
right and and the activity on the on the union side is not it's time you know if
you think about it here is the uh... company boardroom
iraqi pull-back to this number that uh... scares me i think i think about
uh... exxon and two thousand eight
if they'd spent three percent of their net profits they would spend as much
money on the presidential campaign as the rest of america put together
bapat that that the piper of
best well that contained by these elections and and
runner through our republic yeah i was going to say that you know sig kiss
america goodbye that that is not
the kind of america that the founders envisioned
so tell me about the politics of this uh... how do you explain expect this to
go down
in the senate i know that the is that you know a disclose act was passed out
of the house a couple years ago successfully made it to the senate dot
more than fifty votes
so critical situation should become law
but uh... because of the filibuster it
dated never actually got a vote yet i'm fifty nine votes twice
the shutdown debate get to follow through on one vote short we needed
one republican to cross
the aisle right one profile in courage
and we didn't get it
and i i don't quite i'm
think maybe will see akaka pple folks prospered under tonight but probably not
the this sixty total that we need
do you think that this would be worth
harry reid pulling the nuclear option is a time to end the filibuster
well it certainly time to turn this into uh... talking filibuster of that
that i think we should be on this a few weeks and then let the american people
really see or where the obstacles coming from here
uh... and at any moment that there isn't uh... someone on the on the four who
wants to speak to it
we automatically go to a final vote
on that there is a of the potential of doing that under our under our rules
uh... but we have to sit down and be engaged in for a couple weeks and and
have citizens
corral
uh... in a grassroots fashions say that's really matters
uh... reorder one of the things that i'm wrestling with right now is that
in many ways are grassroots groups are saying well you know this is that
schools act that sets a
little bit white
what we really want a constitutional amendment and i i understand where
they're coming from chur
this would help build momentum if we could have uh... some some massive
protest showing elena darkness on on where the money's coming from and build
the momentum
into a force
we might have a shot of a constitutional amendment but sure but right now we
don't
the i_o_u_ d very often politics you take steps and then you know it's uh...
we didn't go from the end of slavery to
the civil rights act in one year
hits fifty you know elliott's unfortunately tragically the it does
take time
and you know i think this is an issue that resonates
so much in my town hall so i have done a hundred and forty them since i was
elected and uh... when when people understand that the first three words of
our constitution we the people
are being crossed out
and replaced with we the most powerful
it pretty much uh... make some upset whether they're coming from the right or
left
and and actually this is this is one of the rare issues on which i
now i really really debate tea party years on this program and the ones who
are not partisan republicans in the partisan republicans
you know that they're just all over you know
like karl rove have all the secret money on aol ill make sure you're re-elected
but the tea party folks who are are more ideologically uh... there whatever
libertarian or whatever
they have no problem with that disclosure
well one of the thing they like to note is that uh... our forefathers uh...
wrote we the people in
fought that was
about eight times the rest of the constitution yet just a reminder to
bring court in reminded people of this is all about yeah and unfortunately
uh... buckets of supreme court didn't seem to pay attention yeah i would agree
and so then so does the descent mr steven standard bearer justice stevens
religious and citizens in senator jeff partly what the last question your wat
can redial apparently were some listeners do
right now to help us passing doing is sign the petition we've had a a quarter
million sign in the last few days
i've got it on my website jeff markley dot com ok but one waited to accept it
but uh... itself
then quite frankly i mean i wish to make when we were in all night tonight i wish
we had
a few thousand people outside shannon whites in the darkness too
to uh... x enjoyed this but we're going to have to have a grassroots movement
that says we've got a shine light
on these vast
pools of dark money right and i was sum one other thing people can do
his is called
their member of congress absolutely call
right shoulder their town off right they'll
okay senator jeff marked with more impact you so much for being with us and
they kicked off and i wish you the very best you're you're one of the good guys