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>>> CONTROVERSY AT THE CAPITOL. SENATE BILL 1062 PASSED IN THE
SENATE BILL 1062 PASSED IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
HOUSE AND SENATE. BUT THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE FAR
BUT THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE FAR FROM HAVING THE FINAL SAY.
FROM HAVING THE FINAL SAY. CLEARLY YOU CAN RECRAFT A BILL
CLEARLY YOU CAN RECRAFT A BILL MAYBE SO IT WORKS BETTER THAN
MAYBE SO IT WORKS BETTER THAN THE BILL WOULD HAVE DONE FROM A
THE BILL WOULD HAVE DONE FROM A LEGAL SENSE.
LEGAL SENSE. YOU KNOW NOT EVERYTHING YOU CAN
YOU KNOW NOT EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD
DO IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD DO.
DO. >> THE BILL, JUST TWO PAGES,
>> THE BILL, JUST TWO PAGES, INCITING DAYS OF DEMONSTRATIONS.
INCITING DAYS OF DEMONSTRATIONS. THRUSTING ARIZONA INTO THE
THRUSTING ARIZONA INTO THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT YET AGAIN.
NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT YET AGAIN. >> WE HAVE ALREADY HAD GAPING
>> WE HAVE ALREADY HAD GAPING WOUND.
WOUND. THE SCAB ON THE WOUND IS VERY,
THE SCAB ON THE WOUND IS VERY, VERY THIVENLT IT HADN'T HARDENED
VERY THIVENLT IT HADN'T HARDENED YET.
YET. >> THE TURMOIL OF THE GRAND
>> THE TURMOIL OF THE GRAND CANYON STATE CAPTIVATING THE
CANYON STATE CAPTIVATING THE NATION.
NATION. THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK."
THIS IS "ARIZONA WEEK." >>> GOVERNOR BREWER VETOED
>>> GOVERNOR BREWER VETOED SENATE BILL 1062 WEDNESDAY, 48
SENATE BILL 1062 WEDNESDAY, 48 HOURS AFTER IT LANDED ON HER
HOURS AFTER IT LANDED ON HER DESK.
DESK. HER DECISION WELCOME NEWS TO
HER DECISION WELCOME NEWS TO OPPONENTS OF THE MEASURE.
OPPONENTS OF THE MEASURE. BUT UPSETTING FOR SUPPORTERS WHO
BUT UPSETTING FOR SUPPORTERS WHO SAY THE BILL WAS ABOUT RELIGIOUS
SAY THE BILL WAS ABOUT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
FREEDOM. THE DISCUSSION ALSO IMPACTING
THE DISCUSSION ALSO IMPACTING THE POLITICS OF THE STATE.
THE POLITICS OF THE STATE. DID THE BILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR
DID THE BILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR POLITICAL FALLOUT?
POLITICAL FALLOUT? HERE NOW ARE CAROLINE *** OF
HERE NOW ARE CAROLINE *** OF PIMA COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY,
PIMA COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND PAULA ABOUD, REPRESENTING
AND PAULA ABOUD, REPRESENTING THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. SHE SAYS THIS WILL HURT THE GOP.
SHE SAYS THIS WILL HURT THE GOP. >> IT'S TRULY DEVASTATING TO THE
>> IT'S TRULY DEVASTATING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
REPUBLICAN PARTY. THE PARTY ITSELF AND PRIMARILY
THE PARTY ITSELF AND PRIMARILY ITS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE
ITS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL PROBLEM FOR ANDY TOBIN,
A REAL PROBLEM FOR ANDY TOBIN, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. HE IS RUNNING FOR CONGRESS.
HE IS RUNNING FOR CONGRESS. HE IS TAKING THE BRUNT OF HEAT
HE IS TAKING THE BRUNT OF HEAT FOR RAMMING THIS BILL THROUGH
FOR RAMMING THIS BILL THROUGH OFFICE.
OFFICE. PRIMARY, GENERAL ELECTION IF HE
PRIMARY, GENERAL ELECTION IF HE WINS.
WINS. HE WILL HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM.
HE WILL HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM. ANOTHER HUGE PROBLEM HAS BEEN
ANOTHER HUGE PROBLEM HAS BEEN FOR MARTHA McSALLY.
FOR MARTHA McSALLY. SHE HAS BEEN SILENT ON THE
SHE HAS BEEN SILENT ON THE ISSUE.
ISSUE. AS A CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS, TO
AS A CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS, TO NOT BE WEIGHING IN, SHE HAS
NOT BE WEIGHING IN, SHE HAS OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO STEP UP AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO STEP UP AND BE A LEADER.
BE A LEADER. SHOW WHO SHE IS AND WHAT SHE
SHOW WHO SHE IS AND WHAT SHE STANDS FOR.
STANDS FOR. IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
IT'S NOT HAPPENING. THE CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR --
THE CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR -- ALL THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES
ALL THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR, MINUS 1, HAVE
FOR GOVERNOR, MINUS 1, HAVE DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM THIS
DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
PIECE OF LEGISLATION. IT IS, IT IS A PARIAH PIECE OF
IT IS, IT IS A PARIAH PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
LEGISLATION. AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, IS
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, IS THE REPUBLICANS ARE, ARE BACK
THE REPUBLICANS ARE, ARE BACK PEDALING AND MOVING THEMSELVES
PEDALING AND MOVING THEMSELVES ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE, TO THE
ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THE, TO THE GAY COMMUNITY AS A RESULT OF
GAY COMMUNITY AS A RESULT OF THEIR DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM
THEIR DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM THE IMPACT.
THE IMPACT. I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU
I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU 100%.
100%. I THINK THIS IS BENEFICIAL FOR
I THINK THIS IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE GAY COMMUNITY.
THE GAY COMMUNITY. IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT IF YOU ARE
IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO REFUSE SERVICE TO
GOING TO REFUSE SERVICE TO SOMEONE, BECAUSE OF YOUR
SOMEONE, BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, THIS BILL
RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, THIS BILL MAKES IT MUCH MORE STRENUOUS
MAKES IT MUCH MORE STRENUOUS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, DEFINE WHAT
THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, DEFINE WHAT THOSE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ARE.
THOSE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ARE. AND, AND WHY -- AND WHY -- THEY
AND, AND WHY -- AND WHY -- THEY HAVE BEEN VIOLATED.
HAVE BEEN VIOLATED. I THINK THIS IS A POSITIVE STEP,
I THINK THIS IS A POSITIVE STEP, A POSITIVE MODIFICATION TO THE
A POSITIVE MODIFICATION TO THE 1999 LAW.
1999 LAW. >> I THINK IT WILL HURT THE
>> I THINK IT WILL HURT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?
REPUBLICAN PARTY? >> I THINK THE WAY IT IS BEING
>> I THINK THE WAY IT IS BEING SOLD THATSZ WE AIS THAT IT IS A.
SOLD THATSZ WE AIS THAT IT IS A. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS ABOUT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS ABOUT. THE LAW SAYS IF YOU ARE GOING TO
THE LAW SAYS IF YOU ARE GOING TO OBJECT TO GIVING SERVICE TO
OBJECT TO GIVING SERVICE TO SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF YOUR
SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGIOUS RIGHTS, IT IS MUCH
RELIGIOUS RIGHTS, IT IS MUCH MORE STRENUOUS THAT YOU HAVE TO
MORE STRENUOUS THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOUR RIGHTS HAVE BEEN
PROVE THAT YOUR RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED.
VIOLATED. >> PAULA DOES THIS THEN CHANGE
>> PAULA DOES THIS THEN CHANGE POLITICAL, LANDSCAPE FOR
POLITICAL, LANDSCAPE FOR DEMOCRATS MOVING FORWARD IN
DEMOCRATS MOVING FORWARD IN STATE?
STATE? >> THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LOOKS
>> THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LOOKS MAGNANIMOUS AT THIS POINT FOR --
MAGNANIMOUS AT THIS POINT FOR -- FOR STANDING UP FOR A COMMUNITY,
FOR STANDING UP FOR A COMMUNITY, THE GAY COMMUNITY, THE, THE
THE GAY COMMUNITY, THE, THE BEING DOWNTRODDEN BY THE
BEING DOWNTRODDEN BY THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT THAT HAS -- RUN
RELIGIOUS RIGHT THAT HAS -- RUN THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION ACROSS
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY. ARIZONA WAS THE ONLY STATE THAT
ARIZONA WAS THE ONLY STATE THAT ALLOWED ITSELF TO BE SUCKED INTO
ALLOWED ITSELF TO BE SUCKED INTO THIS RELIGIOUS JEAGENDA TO RUN
THIS RELIGIOUS JEAGENDA TO RUN PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT MAKES
PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT MAKES THE GAY COMMUNITY MORE
THE GAY COMMUNITY MORE VULNERABLE AND, AND SCAPEGOATED.
VULNERABLE AND, AND SCAPEGOATED. >> MAKES THEM LESS VULNERABLE.
>> MAKES THEM LESS VULNERABLE. >> WHAT IT DOES FOR ARIZONA IS
>> WHAT IT DOES FOR ARIZONA IS IT TAKES AWAY THE POTENTIAL FOR
IT TAKES AWAY THE POTENTIAL FOR ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT
ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WANTED TO COME HERE THAT NO
WANTED TO COME HERE THAT NO LONGER WANT TO COME HERE.
LONGER WANT TO COME HERE. THE $500 MILLION OF SUPER BOWL
THE $500 MILLION OF SUPER BOWL DOLLARS THAT WOULD COME INTO THE
DOLLARS THAT WOULD COME INTO THE STATE ARE IN SERIOUS JEOPARDY.
STATE ARE IN SERIOUS JEOPARDY. TO SAY THAT THIS HELPS THE GAY
TO SAY THAT THIS HELPS THE GAY COMMUNITY WHEN IT IS DEVASTATING
COMMUNITY WHEN IT IS DEVASTATING ARIZONA'S COMMUNITY, SHOWS THE
ARIZONA'S COMMUNITY, SHOWS THE COMPLETE OUT OF TOUCHNESS OF THE
COMPLETE OUT OF TOUCHNESS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, ON WHAT THEY
REPUBLICAN PARTY, ON WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
HAVE DONE. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THE GAY
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THE GAY COMMUNITY, THEIR REPUTATION, THE
COMMUNITY, THEIR REPUTATION, THE REPUTATION OF ARIZONA AND THE
REPUTATION OF ARIZONA AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
BUSINESS COMMUNITY. >> WE INITIALLY HAD REPUBLICANS
>> WE INITIALLY HAD REPUBLICANS SUPPORT THE BILL.
SUPPORT THE BILL. THEN THEY BACK ADD WAY.
THEN THEY BACK ADD WAY. HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? >> THE KIND OF MEDIA COVERAGE
>> THE KIND OF MEDIA COVERAGE THIS HAS BEEN GETTING.
THIS HAS BEEN GETTING. DISTORTING WHAT THE BILL DOES.
DISTORTING WHAT THE BILL DOES. IT IS, SCARING PEOPLE AWAY.
IT IS, SCARING PEOPLE AWAY. THIS BILL DOESN'T DO ANY OF THE
THIS BILL DOESN'T DO ANY OF THE THINGS THAT -- AS FAR AS DRIVING
THINGS THAT -- AS FAR AS DRIVING OUT THE GAY COMMUNITY OR
OUT THE GAY COMMUNITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT DOES NOT DO THAT.
IT DOES NOT DO THAT. IN FACT IT MAKES IT EASIER --
IN FACT IT MAKES IT EASIER -- FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY, SUE
FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY, SUE A BUSINESS THAT THEY FEEL HAS
A BUSINESS THAT THEY FEEL HAS DENIED THEM SERVICE.
DENIED THEM SERVICE. IN TRUTH, BECAUSE I WAS A
IN TRUTH, BECAUSE I WAS A BUSINESS OWNER.
BUSINESS OWNER. THAT'S THE LAST THING A BUSINESS
THAT'S THE LAST THING A BUSINESS WANTS TO DO IS TO DENY SERVICE
WANTS TO DO IS TO DENY SERVICE TO ANY CLIENT.
TO ANY CLIENT. I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD ON
I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD ON THIS.
THIS. THE FORMER STATE LEGISLATOR,
THE FORMER STATE LEGISLATOR, WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED
WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHEN REPRESENTATIVES,
DOORS WHEN REPRESENTATIVES, THROWS HIS OR HER SUPPORT BEHIND
THROWS HIS OR HER SUPPORT BEHIND IT.
IT. SUDDENLY CHANGES?
SUDDENLY CHANGES? >> WELL I THINK THE, THE GREAT
>> WELL I THINK THE, THE GREAT THING FOR THOSE THREE REPUBLICAN
THING FOR THOSE THREE REPUBLICAN SENATORS THAT WITHDREW THEIR
SENATORS THAT WITHDREW THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION IS
SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION IS THAT REALLY GAVE JAN BREWER
THAT REALLY GAVE JAN BREWER COVER FOR -- FOR VETOING THIS
COVER FOR -- FOR VETOING THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
PIECE OF LEGISLATION. BEFORE IT WAS ALL THE
BEFORE IT WAS ALL THE REPUBLICANS EXCEPT THREE IN THE
REPUBLICANS EXCEPT THREE IN THE HOUSE THAT SUPPORTED THIS.
HOUSE THAT SUPPORTED THIS. AND SO WHAT IT SHOWS IS THERE IS
AND SO WHAT IT SHOWS IS THERE IS AN AWAKENING AWARENESS OF THE
AN AWAKENING AWARENESS OF THE IMPACT OF THE PIECE OF
IMPACT OF THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION ON THE BUYERSNESS
LEGISLATION ON THE BUYERSNESS COMMUNITY OF ARIZONA.
COMMUNITY OF ARIZONA. THESE LEGISLATORS DIDN'T WANT TO
THESE LEGISLATORS DIDN'T WANT TO HARM THE GAY COMMUNITY.
HARM THE GAY COMMUNITY. THEY INSTEAD NOW ARE SIDING WITH
THEY INSTEAD NOW ARE SIDING WITH US.
US. THEY'LL BE FINE.
THEY'LL BE FINE. ARIZONA WILL BE FINE.
ARIZONA WILL BE FINE. IF THE GOVERNOR IN FACT DOES THE
IF THE GOVERNOR IN FACT DOES THE RIGHT THING FOR THE BUSINESS
RIGHT THING FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY. AND THE GAME COMMUNITY IN THE
AND THE GAME COMMUNITY IN THE STATE.
STATE. >> WHAT ARE THE SOCIOLOGICAL
>> WHAT ARE THE SOCIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
EFFECTS OF THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT?
RESTORATION ACT? DOES THIS IMPACT CIVIL RIGHTS
DOES THIS IMPACT CIVIL RIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE?
THROUGHOUT THE STATE? ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA'S
ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA'S CHRISTOPHER CONOVER SAT DOWN
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER SAT DOWN WITH MATTHEW WHITAKER DIRECTOR
WITH MATTHEW WHITAKER DIRECTOR FOR THE STUDY OF RACE AND
FOR THE STUDY OF RACE AND DEMOCRACY AT ARIZONA STATE
DEMOCRACY AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY.
UNIVERSITY. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MORE RECENT HISTORY.
MORE RECENT HISTORY. PEOPLE NOW THINK OF ARIZONA AS
PEOPLE NOW THINK OF ARIZONA AS THE HOME OF -- 1070, AS THE HOME
THE HOME OF -- 1070, AS THE HOME OF, AS THE HOME OF THIS
OF, AS THE HOME OF THIS PARTICULAR BILL, 1062.
PARTICULAR BILL, 1062. CAN WE GET OVER THAT REPUTATION
CAN WE GET OVER THAT REPUTATION OR IS THAT A REPUTATION THAT
OR IS THAT A REPUTATION THAT WILL TAKE MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS
WILL TAKE MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS GENERATIONS TO GET OVER.
GENERATIONS TO GET OVER. >> WE CAN GET OVER IT.
>> WE CAN GET OVER IT. WE CAN GET OVER IT PRETTY
WE CAN GET OVER IT PRETTY QUICKLY.
QUICKLY. IN ORDER TO GET OVER IT PRETTY
IN ORDER TO GET OVER IT PRETTY QUICKLY THERE HAS TO BE SOME
QUICKLY THERE HAS TO BE SOME SERIOUS AND SUBSTANTIVE ACTION.
SERIOUS AND SUBSTANTIVE ACTION. AND CHANGES.
AND CHANGES. WITHIN OUR POLITICAL CULTURE
WITHIN OUR POLITICAL CULTURE HERE.
HERE. PEOPLE ARE VERY FORGIVING IN
PEOPLE ARE VERY FORGIVING IN AMERICA.
AMERICA. USUALLY.
USUALLY. WE ARE A PLACE WHERE SECOND,
WE ARE A PLACE WHERE SECOND, THIRD CHANCES.
THIRD CHANCES. AND CHANGE CAN HAPPEN QUICKLY.
AND CHANGE CAN HAPPEN QUICKLY. BUT, WE HAVE TO MAKE A CONCERTED
BUT, WE HAVE TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO WANT THE CHANGE.
EFFORT TO WANT THE CHANGE. RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST WITH THE
RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST WITH THE MANY OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS,
MANY OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT ONLY ARE WE SEEING PEOPLE
NOT ONLY ARE WE SEEING PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE
WHO DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE CHANGE, WE SEE FOLKS WHO ARE 20,
CHANGE, WE SEE FOLKS WHO ARE 20, 30, 40 YEARS, BEHIND IN THE
30, 40 YEARS, BEHIND IN THE TERMS OF THE WAY THEY THINK
TERMS OF THE WAY THEY THINK ABOUT WHAT ARIZONA IS AND WHAT
ABOUT WHAT ARIZONA IS AND WHAT ARIZONA SHOULD BE.
ARIZONA SHOULD BE. >> YOU SAID THIS WEEK YOU WERE,
>> YOU SAID THIS WEEK YOU WERE, TALKING TO A GROUP, YOU ARE
TALKING TO A GROUP, YOU ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE
GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE 50th ANNIVERSARY OF THE CIVIL
50th ANNIVERSARY OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.
RIGHTS ACT. AND YET, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS
AND YET, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS WERE ON 1062.
WERE ON 1062. I GITS UESS IT IS SOME WHAT IRO
I GITS UESS IT IS SOME WHAT IRO THAT THE TWO THINGS ARE
THAT THE TWO THINGS ARE INTERSECTING AT THE END OF BLACK
INTERSECTING AT THE END OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN ARIZONA.
HISTORY MONTH IN ARIZONA. >> PAINFULLY IRONIC.
>> PAINFULLY IRONIC. I WROTE THE CNN PIECE.
I WROTE THE CNN PIECE. I WAS APPALLED.
I WAS APPALLED. DISAPPOINTED.
DISAPPOINTED. WHEN I REALIZE THAT 50 YEARS
WHEN I REALIZE THAT 50 YEARS AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE CIVIL
AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.
RIGHTS ACT. SECTION 2 OF WHICH ARTICULATES
SECTION 2 OF WHICH ARTICULATES ACCESS TO PLACES OF PUBLIC
ACCESS TO PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION.
ACCOMMODATION. IRREGARDLESS OF RACE, REGARDLESS
IRREGARDLESS OF RACE, REGARDLESS OF RACE AND THOSE TYPES OF
OF RACE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THINGS. THAT NOW -- WE WOULD HAVE --
THAT NOW -- WE WOULD HAVE -- FOLKS DRAFT, SO-CALLED RIGHT TO
FOLKS DRAFT, SO-CALLED RIGHT TO DISCRIMINATE BILL.
DISCRIMINATE BILL. IT FLIES IN THE FACE IN MY
IT FLIES IN THE FACE IN MY OPINION OF NOT ONLY WISDOM,
OPINION OF NOT ONLY WISDOM, CONVENTION NAME WISDOM.
CONVENTION NAME WISDOM. FLIES IN THE FAPS OF LOGIC.
FLIES IN THE FAPS OF LOGIC. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. FOR MANY PEOPLE IT IS SOMETHING
FOR MANY PEOPLE IT IS SOMETHING OF A SLAP IN THE NICE HAVE THIS
OF A SLAP IN THE NICE HAVE THIS LEGISLATION INTRODUCED THIS
LEGISLATION INTRODUCED THIS YEAR, THE 50th ANNIVERSARY.
YEAR, THE 50th ANNIVERSARY. WE CELEBRATE AMERICA.
WE CELEBRATE AMERICA. TAKING A LARGE STEP TOWARDS
TAKING A LARGE STEP TOWARDS EQUALITY.
EQUALITY. AND EQUITY.
AND EQUITY. ACCESS.
ACCESS. BRINGING ALL PEOPLE UNDER ONE
BRINGING ALL PEOPLE UNDER ONE TENT.
TENT. >> SOME REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF
>> SOME REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE, OR THE -- WERE,
THE LEGISLATURE, OR THE -- WERE, WERE COMING OUT VERY STRONGLY
WERE COMING OUT VERY STRONGLY AGAINST IT.
AGAINST IT. WE HAD -- BIG BUSINESS COMING
WE HAD -- BIG BUSINESS COMING OUT VERY STRONGLY AGAINST 1062.
OUT VERY STRONGLY AGAINST 1062. IN THE PUBLIC EYE.
IN THE PUBLIC EYE. YOU TRAVEL AROUND.
YOU TRAVEL AROUND. YOU ARE PROFESSOR OF HISTORY.
YOU ARE PROFESSOR OF HISTORY. DEMOCRACY.
DEMOCRACY. RACE.
RACE. DOES THAT HELP BLUNT SOME OF THE
DOES THAT HELP BLUNT SOME OF THE BLACK EYES THAT OVER THIS WEEK
BLACK EYES THAT OVER THIS WEEK WE HAVE BEEN GETTING IN ARIZONA?
WE HAVE BEEN GETTING IN ARIZONA? OR IS THAT DAMAGE DONE?
OR IS THAT DAMAGE DONE? >> WE HAVE ALREADY HAD GAPING
>> WE HAVE ALREADY HAD GAPING WOUNDS.
WOUNDS. THE SCAB ON TOP OF THE WOUND IS
THE SCAB ON TOP OF THE WOUND IS VERY, VERY THIN.
VERY, VERY THIN. IT HADN'T HARDENED YET.
IT HADN'T HARDENED YET. SO THERE IS A LOT OF, OF,
SO THERE IS A LOT OF, OF, RESTORATIVE BEHAVIOR THAT NEEDS
RESTORATIVE BEHAVIOR THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
TO HAPPEN. I THINK IT IS BLUNTED SOMEWHAT.
I THINK IT IS BLUNTED SOMEWHAT. A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND
A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT HERE IN THE FIRST
HOW WE GOT HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
PLACE. THE QUESTION IS WHY DOES ARIZONA
THE QUESTION IS WHY DOES ARIZONA KEEP INFLICTING THESE, KEEP,
KEEP INFLICTING THESE, KEEP, WITH THE SELF INFLICTING WOUNDS.
WITH THE SELF INFLICTING WOUNDS. WHAT IS GOING ON THERE?
WHAT IS GOING ON THERE? WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE MENTALITY OF PEOPLE WHO KEEP
MENTALITY OF PEOPLE WHO KEEP INTRODUCING THIS LEGISLATION IT?
INTRODUCING THIS LEGISLATION IT? DOES HELP TO HAVE THE BUSINESS
DOES HELP TO HAVE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SPEAK OUT.
COMMUNITY SPEAK OUT. IN UNISON AGAINST THIS BILL.
IN UNISON AGAINST THIS BILL. IT ALSO HELPS RECENTLY OFF TO
IT ALSO HELPS RECENTLY OFF TO HAVE MANY MEMBERS OF THE FAITH
HAVE MANY MEMBERS OF THE FAITH BASED COMMUNITY STAY, WE REJECT
BASED COMMUNITY STAY, WE REJECT THIS AS WELL.
THIS AS WELL. WHICH, INTRODUCING A BILL
WHICH, INTRODUCING A BILL YOU ARE CLAIMING YOU WANT TO
YOU ARE CLAIMING YOU WANT TO PROTECT FREEDOMS.
PROTECT FREEDOMS. THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY REJECTS
THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY REJECTS THE BILL.
THE BILL. WHAT'S THE POINT?
WHAT'S THE POINT? WHAT'S THE PURPOSE?
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? IT BLUNTS A LITTLE BIT.
IT BLUNTS A LITTLE BIT. THE REPUTATION WASN'T THAT GOOD
THE REPUTATION WASN'T THAT GOOD IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> OTHER STATES HAVE PROPOSED
>> OTHER STATES HAVE PROPOSED THIS.
THIS. ARIZONA'S LEGISLATURE IS THE
ARIZONA'S LEGISLATURE IS THE FIRST TO PASS IT.
FIRST TO PASS IT. WHAT MAKES ARIZONA DIFFERENT?
WHAT MAKES ARIZONA DIFFERENT? YOU MENTIONED -- A FEW MINUTES
YOU MENTIONED -- A FEW MINUTES AGO.
AGO. THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
THINGS HAVE CHANGED. WE WERE IN THE FOREFRONT OF 50
WE WERE IN THE FOREFRONT OF 50 YEARS AGO OF, OF MAKING CHANGES,
YEARS AGO OF, OF MAKING CHANGES, YET NOW, ARIZONA GETS THESE
YET NOW, ARIZONA GETS THESE BLACK EYES.
BLACK EYES. WHAT'S CHANGED OVER THE 50
WHAT'S CHANGED OVER THE 50 YEARS?
YEARS? >> WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
>> WHAT HAS HAPPENED. BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE
BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE 1980s.
1980s. WE STARTED TO SEE -- A
WE STARTED TO SEE -- A DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT.
DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT. THE POPULATION BEGIN TO EXPLODE.
THE POPULATION BEGIN TO EXPLODE. AND WE KNOW IT DID.
AND WE KNOW IT DID. AND SO MUCH NOW.
AND SO MUCH NOW. THE POPULATION IS RIGHT AROUND
THE POPULATION IS RIGHT AROUND 30%.
30%. AND IT IS GROWING EVEN FASTER.
AND IT IS GROWING EVEN FASTER. THE BLACK POPULATION HAS HELD
THE BLACK POPULATION HAS HELD STEADY AT 5%.
STEADY AT 5%. WE ARE LOUDER AND MORE ENGAGED
WE ARE LOUDER AND MORE ENGAGED THAN OUR NUMBERS WOULD SUGGEST.
THAN OUR NUMBERS WOULD SUGGEST. THAT SCARES PEOPLE.
THAT SCARES PEOPLE. NATIVE COMMUNITY THAT IS
NATIVE COMMUNITY THAT IS EXPERIENCING IN SOME WAYS A
EXPERIENCING IN SOME WAYS A RENAISSANCE.
RENAISSANCE. AND FIGHTING FOR THEIR OWN --
AND FIGHTING FOR THEIR OWN -- THEIR DIGNITY, SELF
THEIR DIGNITY, SELF DETERMINATION AS WELL.
DETERMINATION AS WELL. SO PEOPLE SEE THEIR ARIZONA,
SO PEOPLE SEE THEIR ARIZONA, SOME FOLKS SEE THEIR ARIZONA,
SOME FOLKS SEE THEIR ARIZONA, FLOATING AWAY.
FLOATING AWAY. FADING AWAY.
FADING AWAY. AND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE IT IS.
AND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE IT IS. SOME WOULD SAY THAT IS A GOOD
SOME WOULD SAY THAT IS A GOOD THING.
THING. SO, YOU SEE THIS DEMOGRAPHIC
SO, YOU SEE THIS DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT.
SHIFT. WHERE WHITES -- WHO HAVE LONG
WHERE WHITES -- WHO HAVE LONG CONTROLLED THE STATE -- ARE, ARE
CONTROLLED THE STATE -- ARE, ARE STARING DOWN -- STARING THROUGH
STARING DOWN -- STARING THROUGH A KALEIDOSCOPE POINTING THROUGH
A KALEIDOSCOPE POINTING THROUGH A HISTORY.
A HISTORY. A FUTURE THAT IS GOING TO BE
A FUTURE THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE PAST
VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE PAST THAT THEY REMEMBER IN ARIZONA.
THAT THEY REMEMBER IN ARIZONA. AND THAT FEAR, I THINK, HAS
AND THAT FEAR, I THINK, HAS ENJEN DE
ENJEN DE ENGENDERED DRACONIAN FEAR AND
ENGENDERED DRACONIAN FEAR AND ACTIONS.
ACTIONS. A FEAR OF WHAT ARIZONA IS GOING
A FEAR OF WHAT ARIZONA IS GOING TO BE.
TO BE. OUR NEXT ELECTORAL CYCLE,
OUR NEXT ELECTORAL CYCLE, PREJUDICIAL ELECTORAL CYCLE.
PREJUDICIAL ELECTORAL CYCLE. THERE WILL BE HUNDREDS OF THOUZ
THERE WILL BE HUNDREDS OF THOUZ STANTHOUZ
STANTHOUZ -- THOUSANDS OF LATINO
-- THOUSANDS OF LATINO REGISTERED VOTERS.
REGISTERED VOTERS. OREGON, WENT BLUE.
OREGON, WENT BLUE. FOR YEARS WAS A RED STATE.
FOR YEARS WAS A RED STATE. MANY FOLKS THINK, WELL IF WE
MANY FOLKS THINK, WELL IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING NOW, ARIZONA
DON'T DO SOMETHING NOW, ARIZONA MAY GO THE WAY OF OREGON.
MAY GO THE WAY OF OREGON. HEAVEN FORBID.
HEAVEN FORBID. SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT, LOTS
SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT, LOTS OF FEAR OUT THERE.
OF FEAR OUT THERE. THAT'S MOTIVATING PEOPLE TO --
THAT'S MOTIVATING PEOPLE TO -- TO, YOU KNOW ERECT WALLS.
TO, YOU KNOW ERECT WALLS. AND BARRIERS.
AND BARRIERS. TO, TO SOMETHING THAT -- THAT,
TO, TO SOMETHING THAT -- THAT, IT'S, INEVITABLE.
IT'S, INEVITABLE. CHANGE IS INEVITABLE.
CHANGE IS INEVITABLE. >> ARE THESE WALLS AND BARRIERS
>> ARE THESE WALLS AND BARRIERS AS YOU SAID, JUST THE FINAL
AS YOU SAID, JUST THE FINAL REACTION AS WE DEMOGRAPHICALLY
REACTION AS WE DEMOGRAPHICALLY CHANGE?
CHANGE? OR HERE TO STAY?
OR HERE TO STAY? >> IT IS CYCLICAL.
>> IT IS CYCLICAL. WHEN YOU TALK SIGNIFICANT
WHEN YOU TALK SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
CHANGE. THERE IS ALWAYS MASSIVE,
THERE IS ALWAYS MASSIVE, MODERATE, MINIMAL RESISTANCE TO
MODERATE, MINIMAL RESISTANCE TO IT.
IT. JUST PART OF ARIZONA.
JUST PART OF ARIZONA. I MEAN AMERICAN HISTORY.
I MEAN AMERICAN HISTORY. ARIZONA HISTORY.
ARIZONA HISTORY. WITH THIS DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE.
WITH THIS DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE. WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS, REALLY IS
WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS, REALLY IS EXPECTED.
EXPECTED. SHOULD BE EXPECTED.
SHOULD BE EXPECTED. IT'S ONE OF THOSE, LAST --
IT'S ONE OF THOSE, LAST -- LAST -- OR WE WOULD LOOK TO TIK
LAST -- OR WE WOULD LOOK TO TIK THINK OR HOPE.
THINK OR HOPE. LAST GASPS IN RESPONSE OR
LAST GASPS IN RESPONSE OR REACTION TO ANOTHER SET OF, OF
REACTION TO ANOTHER SET OF, OF SERIOUS CHANGE, DEMOGRAPHIC
SERIOUS CHANGE, DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE IN OUR MIDST.
CHANGE IN OUR MIDST. >> THANK YOU FOR SITTING DOWN
>> THANK YOU FOR SITTING DOWN WITH US.
WITH US. >> A PLEASURE.
>> A PLEASURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JOINING US TO BREAK DOWN
>> JOINING US TO BREAK DOWN LEGALESE OF ARIZONA'S LAWS,
LEGALESE OF ARIZONA'S LAWS, ATTORNEY MICHAEL BOREOLE, AND
ATTORNEY MICHAEL BOREOLE, AND COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST, KATE
COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST, KATE KENSKI, AND POLITICAL KOEME
KENSKI, AND POLITICAL KOEME CORRESPONDENT, CHRISTOPHER
CORRESPONDENT, CHRISTOPHER CONOVER, HERE.
CONOVER, HERE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. LET'S BEGIN.
LET'S BEGIN. THIS WAS ADDENDUM TO AN EXISTING
THIS WAS ADDENDUM TO AN EXISTING BILL OR ADDITION?
BILL OR ADDITION? >> YES, THE PROPOSED BILL DIDN'T
>> YES, THE PROPOSED BILL DIDN'T CREATE A NEW STATUTE.
CREATE A NEW STATUTE. CHANGED LANGUAGE OF AN EXISTING
CHANGED LANGUAGE OF AN EXISTING STATUTE DEALING WITH EXPANDING
STATUTE DEALING WITH EXPANDING THE DEFINITION FROM A RELIGIOUS
THE DEFINITION FROM A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION TO INCLUDE A PERSON,
INSTITUTION TO INCLUDE A PERSON, BUSINESS, CORPORATION, THINGS
BUSINESS, CORPORATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
LIKE THAT. IT ALSO MODIFIED WHAT CONSTIT E
IT ALSO MODIFIED WHAT CONSTIT E CONSTITUTED GOVERNMENT ACTION,
CONSTITUTED GOVERNMENT ACTION, NOT JUST STATE ACTION BUT
NOT JUST STATE ACTION BUT APPLICATION OF AN EXISTING LAW.
APPLICATION OF AN EXISTING LAW. I TOOK THAT TO MEAN, JUDGE'S
I TOOK THAT TO MEAN, JUDGE'S DECISION OR APPLICATION OF A
DECISION OR APPLICATION OF A COURT CASE.
COURT CASE. >> WOULD SB 1052 MADE EXISTING
>> WOULD SB 1052 MADE EXISTING LAWS MORE CLEAR, MORE DEFINED?
LAWS MORE CLEAR, MORE DEFINED? >> YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS -- IT
>> YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS -- IT LEFT A LOT OF THE, THE ELEMENTS
LEFT A LOT OF THE, THE ELEMENTS THE SAME.
THE SAME. IT SIMPLY EXPANDED -- WHO, WHO
IT SIMPLY EXPANDED -- WHO, WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE AS A
WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE AS A SHIELD TO -- TO, LIABILITY.
SHIELD TO -- TO, LIABILITY. AND IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY -- MAKE
AND IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY -- MAKE ANY CONDUCT LAWFUL.
ANY CONDUCT LAWFUL. IT CREATED A, A STATUTORY
IT CREATED A, A STATUTORY DEFENSE TO A LAWSUIT BASICALLY.
DEFENSE TO A LAWSUIT BASICALLY. >> AND THE LANGUAGE IS, VERY
>> AND THE LANGUAGE IS, VERY CLEAR.
CLEAR. BUT, WE SAW THAT THE EMOTION
BUT, WE SAW THAT THE EMOTION REALLY TOOK OVER IN, IN THIS
REALLY TOOK OVER IN, IN THIS CASE.
CASE. AND CREATED QUITE A CONTROVERSY,
AND CREATED QUITE A CONTROVERSY, A STIR.
A STIR. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WHEN
SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WHEN DRAFTING THESE TYPES OF BILLS IT
DRAFTING THESE TYPES OF BILLS IT IS CLEAR AND OBVIOUS FOR PEOPLE
IS CLEAR AND OBVIOUS FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
TO UNDERSTAND. >> WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE
>> WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
IDEAL. IF IT WAS CLEAR AND OBVIOUS.
IF IT WAS CLEAR AND OBVIOUS. SOME TIMES THEY DON'T PASS.
SOME TIMES THEY DON'T PASS. PEOPLE FIGURE OUT THE REAL
PEOPLE FIGURE OUT THE REAL INTENT.
INTENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS DEBATED IN THINGS SUCH AS THIS.
DEBATED IN THINGS SUCH AS THIS. IF IT TURNS OUT THAT YOU THINK A
IF IT TURNS OUT THAT YOU THINK A BILL, MEANS ONE THING.
BILL, MEANS ONE THING. AND, SOME ONE REALLY DEFINES IT
AND, SOME ONE REALLY DEFINES IT IN A MORE SPECIFIC WAY.
IN A MORE SPECIFIC WAY. THAT COULD BE A BLOCK TO FURTHER
THAT COULD BE A BLOCK TO FURTHER SUPPORT.
SUPPORT. >> TWO PAGES, CHRISTOPHER.
>> TWO PAGES, CHRISTOPHER. YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING POLITICS
YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING POLITICS HERE IN ARIZONA FOR A WHILE NOW.
HERE IN ARIZONA FOR A WHILE NOW. WHERE WAS THE ISSUE?
WHERE WAS THE ISSUE? WAS IT THE MEDIA?
WAS IT THE MEDIA? WAS IT THE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT
WAS IT THE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT TWO-PAGE LEGISLATION?
TWO-PAGE LEGISLATION? OR THE ATTEMPT AT?
OR THE ATTEMPT AT? >> I THINK IT WAS A CASE OF THE
>> I THINK IT WAS A CASE OF THE SQUEAKY WHEEL.
SQUEAKY WHEEL. CERTAINLY IT WAS POSTURED IN THE
CERTAINLY IT WAS POSTURED IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA, EVEN IN THE
NATIONAL MEDIA, EVEN IN THE STATEWIDE MEDIA AS AN ANTI-GAY
STATEWIDE MEDIA AS AN ANTI-GAY BILL.
BILL. AS WE TALKED ABOUTEN O EIN OUR
AS WE TALKED ABOUTEN O EIN OUR NEWSROOM.
NEWSROOM. NOWHERE IN OUR PROPOSAL, DID IT
NOWHERE IN OUR PROPOSAL, DID IT STAY WHO IT WAS TARGETING.
STAY WHO IT WAS TARGETING. IF IT WAS TARGETING AT ALL.
IF IT WAS TARGETING AT ALL. THAT WAS NOT, NOT WRITTEN AS AN
THAT WAS NOT, NOT WRITTEN AS AN ANTI-GAY WILL.
ANTI-GAY WILL. BY LANGUAGE.
BY LANGUAGE. I THINK WHAT HAPPENED -- WAS --
I THINK WHAT HAPPENED -- WAS -- THE -- THE LGBT CONSORTIUM GOT
THE -- THE LGBT CONSORTIUM GOT GOING FIRST.
GOING FIRST. THEY WERE THE LOUDEST.
THEY WERE THE LOUDEST. SO IT, IT PICKED UP MOMENTUM.
SO IT, IT PICKED UP MOMENTUM. WITH THAT.
WITH THAT. AND CERTAINLY, THEIR COMMUNITY
AND CERTAINLY, THEIR COMMUNITY COULD HAVE BEEN -- YOU KNOW,
COULD HAVE BEEN -- YOU KNOW, CAUGHT UP IN ALL OF THIS, AS
CAUGHT UP IN ALL OF THIS, AS COULD -- A RELIGION, YOU KNOW,
COULD -- A RELIGION, YOU KNOW, MUSLIMS, JOOEWS, CHRISTIANS, ME
MUSLIMS, JOOEWS, CHRISTIANS, ME WOMEN, IT WAS BROAD, IT WASN'T
WOMEN, IT WAS BROAD, IT WASN'T SPECIFIC.
SPECIFIC. IT WAS A CASE OF THAT'S WHO GOT
IT WAS A CASE OF THAT'S WHO GOT OUT FIRST.
OUT FIRST. AND STAYED OUTEN FRONT.
AND STAYED OUTEN FRONT. >> THE CASE THAT DREW ATTENTION,
>> THE CASE THAT DREW ATTENTION, OCCURRING IN NEW MEXICO.
OCCURRING IN NEW MEXICO. WHERE THE PHOTOGRAPHER
WHERE THE PHOTOGRAPHER -- WHERE THE PHOTOGRAPHER
-- WHERE THE PHOTOGRAPHER DECLINED.
DECLINED. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIGNS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIGNS. WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE
WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE.
SERVICE. IF YOU WOULD EXPLAIN, WHERE DO
IF YOU WOULD EXPLAIN, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE.
WE GO FROM HERE. WILL PEOPLE USE THE
WILL PEOPLE USE THE DISCRIMINATION LABEL, WHEN
DISCRIMINATION LABEL, WHEN THEY'RE DENIED SERVICE?
THEY'RE DENIED SERVICE? >> YOU KNOW IT IS POSSIBLE.
>> YOU KNOW IT IS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE
YOU KNOW, BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE LAW.
LAW. IN ARIZONA RECOGNIZE --
IN ARIZONA RECOGNIZE -- CERTAIN, CERTAIN RULES REGARDING
CERTAIN, CERTAIN RULES REGARDING PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS.
PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS. SO IF YOU, RUN A BUSINESS THAT,
SO IF YOU, RUN A BUSINESS THAT, THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND,
THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND, BASICALLY HOLDS ITSELF OUT,
BASICALLY HOLDS ITSELF OUT, SERVICING A PUBLIC.
SERVICING A PUBLIC. A RESTAURANT, OR DRY CLEANER OR
A RESTAURANT, OR DRY CLEANER OR HOTEL.
HOTEL. THERE IS CERTAIN RULES REQUIRING
THERE IS CERTAIN RULES REQUIRING YOU TO SERVE PEOPLE.
YOU TO SERVE PEOPLE. WITH ARIZONA AND A NUMBER OF
WITH ARIZONA AND A NUMBER OF STATES, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY
STATES, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY HAVE CONDITIONS ON THAT WHERE
HAVE CONDITIONS ON THAT WHERE YOU DO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO
YOU DO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE IF SOME ONE IS
REFUSE SERVICE IF SOME ONE IS DISORDERLY, DRUNK, OR VIOLENT.
DISORDERLY, DRUNK, OR VIOLENT. BUSINESS OWNERS AREN'T REQUIRED
BUSINESS OWNERS AREN'T REQUIRED TO SERVE EVERYONE.
TO SERVE EVERYONE. THEY'RE JUST PROHIBITED FROM
THEY'RE JUST PROHIBITED FROM DEKNEEID
DEKNEEID DENYING SERVICE BASED ON
DENYING SERVICE BASED ON PROTECTIVE STATUS.
PROTECTIVE STATUS. >> WOULD THE BILL THEN HAVE BEEN
>> WOULD THE BILL THEN HAVE BEEN UNCONSTITUTIONAL?
UNCONSTITUTIONAL? >> BASED ON THE READING OF IT --
>> BASED ON THE READING OF IT -- YOU KNOW, I THINK IT CERTAINLY
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED AT
WOULD HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
THE FEDERAL LEVEL. ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IF IT
ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IF IT WAS COUCHED.
WAS COUCHED. HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT PROTECTED.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT PROTECTED. MOST OF THEM ARE UNDER SEX AND
MOST OF THEM ARE UNDER SEX AND BOOT STRAPPED INTO THE COVERAGE.
BOOT STRAPPED INTO THE COVERAGE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN INTERESTING CASE, I CAN'T SAY
INTERESTING CASE, I CAN'T SAY THAT IT, CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE IN
THAT IT, CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE IN UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. >> KRATD CARATS VERSUSP --
>> KRATD CARATS VERSUSP -- DEMOCRATS VERSUS REPUBLICANS.
DEMOCRATS VERSUS REPUBLICANS. >> IT DEPEND ON HOW THEY EXPLAIN
>> IT DEPEND ON HOW THEY EXPLAIN THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY DECIDE
AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY DECIDE TO PARTAKE IN FUTURE ITERATIONS
TO PARTAKE IN FUTURE ITERATIONS OF THIS ATTEMPT.
OF THIS ATTEMPT. COUCHED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
COUCHED IN A DIFFERENT WAY. IN THE YEARS TO COME.
IN THE YEARS TO COME. WE HAVE SEEN SOME EVIDENCE TO
WE HAVE SEEN SOME EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT, THAT, THAT THIS IS
SUGGEST THAT, THAT, THAT THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT WILL
NOT AN ISSUE THAT WILL NECESSARILY BE DORMANT.
NECESSARILY BE DORMANT. IT WILL COME BACK.
IT WILL COME BACK. AND SO IT DEPEND ON HOW THEY
AND SO IT DEPEND ON HOW THEY HANDLE THEMSELVES.
HANDLE THEMSELVES. IN TERMS OF THE REPUBLICANS, I
IN TERMS OF THE REPUBLICANS, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT, WHAT REPUBLICANS
RECOGNIZE THAT, WHAT REPUBLICANS DO, AT THE STATE LEVEL, ISN'T
DO, AT THE STATE LEVEL, ISN'T NECESSARILY WHAT REPUBLICANS
NECESSARILY WHAT REPUBLICANS VOTERS WANT AND ISN'T
VOTERS WANT AND ISN'T NECESSARILY, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
NECESSARILY, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AT THE
FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
NATIONAL LEVEL. WITH THIS PARTICULAR BILL YOU,
WITH THIS PARTICULAR BILL YOU, SAW, JOHN McCAIN, COME OUT
SAW, JOHN McCAIN, COME OUT AGAINST IT.
AGAINST IT. AS WELL AS JEFF SLATE.
AS WELL AS JEFF SLATE. AND THEN OF COURSE, MITT ROMNEY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, MITT ROMNEY. NEWT GINGRICH.
NEWT GINGRICH. PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER
PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER MAINSTREAM REPUBLICANS.
MAINSTREAM REPUBLICANS. YOU CAN'T GET MORE MAINSTREAM
YOU CAN'T GET MORE MAINSTREAM THAN, TWO, THAN A FORMER
THAN, TWO, THAN A FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. YOU KNOW BEING OPPOSED AGAINST
YOU KNOW BEING OPPOSED AGAINST IT.
IT. SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO
SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO ARIZONA REPUBLICANS WANT TO CAST
ARIZONA REPUBLICANS WANT TO CAST THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. DO THEY WANT TO -- TRY TO
DO THEY WANT TO -- TRY TO FASHION THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF
FASHION THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF MAINSTREAM REPUBLICANS OR GO
MAINSTREAM REPUBLICANS OR GO THEIR OWN WAY?
THEIR OWN WAY? >> CHRISTOPHER, THIS PUTS
>> CHRISTOPHER, THIS PUTS ARIZONA BACK IN THE NATIONAL
ARIZONA BACK IN THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT.
SPOTLIGHT. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? EVERYONE IS WATCHING ARIZONA YET
EVERYONE IS WATCHING ARIZONA YET AGAIN.
AGAIN. OF COURSE, REFERRING TO SB 1070.
OF COURSE, REFERRING TO SB 1070. >> THAT IS, THE MILLION DOLLAR
>> THAT IS, THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IF YOU ALL LET ME
QUESTION IF YOU ALL LET ME JUST -- ADD SOMETHING TO, TO,
JUST -- ADD SOMETHING TO, TO, WHAT, KATE JUST SAID.
WHAT, KATE JUST SAID. THERE WAS A APPROXIMATELY THAT
THERE WAS A APPROXIMATELY THAT CA
CA -- THERE WAS A POLL THAT CAME
-- THERE WAS A POLL THAT CAME OUT TUESDAY.
OUT TUESDAY. OF STRONG REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
OF STRONG REPUBLICAN VOTERS. IT WAS DONE BY A REPUBLICAN
IT WAS DONE BY A REPUBLICAN FIRM.
FIRM. AND IT HAD 57% OF VOTERS,
AND IT HAD 57% OF VOTERS, REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN ARIZONA,
REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN ARIZONA, URGING THE GOVERNMENT THERE TO
URGING THE GOVERNMENT THERE TO VETO THIS, PLUS/MINUS 4%.
VETO THIS, PLUS/MINUS 4%. IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE 4%.
IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE 4%. 53% OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS, WANTED
53% OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS, WANTED THE GOVERNMENT THERE TO VETO
THE GOVERNMENT THERE TO VETO THIS.
THIS. AGAIN, MAYBE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT
AGAIN, MAYBE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT SHIFT, AS KATE WAS SAYING.
SHIFT, AS KATE WAS SAYING. YOU KNOW, VOTERS ON THE GROUND.
YOU KNOW, VOTERS ON THE GROUND. VERSUS STATE LAWMAKERS.
VERSUS STATE LAWMAKERS. ARIZONA NOW HAS TO FIGURE OUT
ARIZONA NOW HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GO FORWARD FROM AWF-- ALF
HOW TO GO FORWARD FROM AWF-- ALF THIS ATTENTION.
THIS ATTENTION. THE GOVERNOR ADDRESSED THAT IN
THE GOVERNOR ADDRESSED THAT IN HER REMARKS.
HER REMARKS. SHE WAS ANNOUNCING HER VETO.
SHE WAS ANNOUNCING HER VETO. WE NEED TO STOP BEING DECISIVE.
WE NEED TO STOP BEING DECISIVE. NEED TO GO FORWARD.
NEED TO GO FORWARD. CHAS
CHAS CHASTISED THE LEGISLATURE A
CHASTISED THE LEGISLATURE A LITTLE BIT.
LITTLE BIT. SHE IN HER REMARKS WAS FRYING TO
SHE IN HER REMARKS WAS FRYING TO GET ARIZONA BACK ON A DITCH RENT
GET ARIZONA BACK ON A DITCH RENT TRAC
TRAC -- DIFFERENT TRACK IF YOU WILL.
-- DIFFERENT TRACK IF YOU WILL. PUT THIS BEHIND US.
PUT THIS BEHIND US. STOP BEING DECISIVE.
STOP BEING DECISIVE. AND MOVE FORWARD.
AND MOVE FORWARD. >> WILL WE SEE A BILL OR
>> WILL WE SEE A BILL OR DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS AGAIN IN
DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS AGAIN IN ARIZONA ANY TIME SOON, MICHAEL?
ARIZONA ANY TIME SOON, MICHAEL? >> AS SOME ONE WHO REPRESENTS A
>> AS SOME ONE WHO REPRESENTS A LOT OF EMPLOYERS, BUSINESSES.
LOT OF EMPLOYERS, BUSINESSES. I HOPE NOT.
I HOPE NOT. THEY WERE URGING BREWER TO VETO
THEY WERE URGING BREWER TO VETO IT.
IT. NOT THE LIGHT WE WANT CAST ON
NOT THE LIGHT WE WANT CAST ON ARIZONA.
ARIZONA. THERE IS GROWING, CROSS BORDER
THERE IS GROWING, CROSS BORDER COMMERCE ACTIONS AND JUST,
COMMERCE ACTIONS AND JUST, GROWING OUR INTERNATIONAL
GROWING OUR INTERNATIONAL PRESENCE.
PRESENCE. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD PREFER
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD PREFER THE FOCUS WAS THERE.
THE FOCUS WAS THERE. >> KATE, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH
>> KATE, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
THAT? >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK AGAIN, IT DEPEND ON HOW
I THINK AGAIN, IT DEPEND ON HOW ARIZONA WANTS TO FASHION ITSELF.
ARIZONA WANTS TO FASHION ITSELF. I MEAN, CLEARLY YOU CAN RECRAFT
I MEAN, CLEARLY YOU CAN RECRAFT A BILL, MAYBE SO IT, THAT IT
A BILL, MAYBE SO IT, THAT IT WORKS BE S BETTER THAN THIS BIL
WORKS BE S BETTER THAN THIS BIL WOULD HAVE DONE FROM A LEGAL
WOULD HAVE DONE FROM A LEGAL SENSE.
SENSE. NOT EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO
NOT EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD DO.
IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD DO. I THINK WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE
I THINK WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS THAT IF
BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS THAT IF ARIZONA DECIDE TO -- PASS A
ARIZONA DECIDE TO -- PASS A BILL, WHICH THEY MIGHT BE ABLE
BILL, WHICH THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO AND MAYBE IT WILL BE
TO DO AND MAYBE IT WILL BE CONSTITUTIONAL.
CONSTITUTIONAL. BUSINESSES FROM OUTSIDE HAVE THE
BUSINESSES FROM OUTSIDE HAVE THE RIGHT TO STAY, WELL, THEN WE
RIGHT TO STAY, WELL, THEN WE SIMPLY WON'T COME TO ARIZONA.
SIMPLY WON'T COME TO ARIZONA. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
ANALYSIS. APPRECIATE IT.
APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER JOINING
>> CHRISTOPHER CONOVER JOINING ME AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT THE
ME AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT THE CONVERSATION WE HAD.
CONVERSATION WE HAD. JUST HOURS AFTER THE GOVERNOR
JUST HOURS AFTER THE GOVERNOR VETOED THE BILL.
VETOED THE BILL. ALREADY PEOPLE FORMULATED THEIR
ALREADY PEOPLE FORMULATED THEIR OPINIONS WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE
OPINIONS WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE STATE MOVING FORWARD.
STATE MOVING FORWARD. ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY. A BIG QUESTION.
A BIG QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENS NOW.
WHAT HAPPENS NOW. IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE, THE
IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE, THE ARGUMENT WILL CONTINUE THROUGH
ARGUMENT WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THIS ELECTION YEAR.
THIS ELECTION YEAR. NOT LONG AFTER GOVERNMENT NOR
NOT LONG AFTER GOVERNMENT NOR ISSUED THE VETO.
ISSUED THE VETO. WE WERE GETTING E-MAILS.
WE WERE GETTING E-MAILS. WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT
WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT COMMENTS.
COMMENTS. STATE SENATOR AL MELVIN, ALSO
STATE SENATOR AL MELVIN, ALSO RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR AS A
RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR AS A REPUBLICAN FROM HERE IN SOUTHERN
REPUBLICAN FROM HERE IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
ARIZONA. SENT OUT AN E-MAIL.
SENT OUT AN E-MAIL. SAYING, WAIT, TAKE YOUR TIME.
SAYING, WAIT, TAKE YOUR TIME. THIFS WI
THIFS WI THIS WILL COME BACK AGAIN.
THIS WILL COME BACK AGAIN. IT IS UNFORTUNATE IT WAS VETOED.
IT IS UNFORTUNATE IT WAS VETOED. ONLY ONE OF THE CANDIDATES
ONLY ONE OF THE CANDIDATES SUPPORTING THE BILL.
SUPPORTING THE BILL. ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WE'LL HEAR
ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WE'LL HEAR ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. ANDY TOBIN VOTED FOR THE BILL.
ANDY TOBIN VOTED FOR THE BILL. SENT OUT A STATEMENT.
SENT OUT A STATEMENT. SAYING I UNDERSTAND WHY THE
SAYING I UNDERSTAND WHY THE GOVERNOR DID WHAT SHE DID.
GOVERNOR DID WHAT SHE DID. NOT LONG AFTER THAT, ANN KIRK
NOT LONG AFTER THAT, ANN KIRK PATRICK, DEMOCRATIC MEMBER OF
PATRICK, DEMOCRATIC MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO TOBIN IS RUNNING
CONGRESS WHO TOBIN IS RUNNING AGAINST.
AGAINST. CAME OUT WITH A STATEMENT SAYING
CAME OUT WITH A STATEMENT SAYING EVERYBODY WHO PUSHED THE BILL
EVERYBODY WHO PUSHED THE BILL THROUGH NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE
THROUGH NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA.
STATE OF ARIZONA. TWO REPUBLICAN OPPONENTS VOTED
TWO REPUBLICAN OPPONENTS VOTED FOR THE BILL.
FOR THE BILL. IT IS GOING TO COME ON THE
IT IS GOING TO COME ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS WE MOVE OUR
CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS WE MOVE OUR WAY TOWARD NOVEMBER.
WAY TOWARD NOVEMBER. >> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE
>> ARE WE LIKELY TO SEE APOLOGIES.
APOLOGIES. WILL WE SEE MAYBE THESE
WILL WE SEE MAYBE THESE CANDIDATES PUNISHED FOR WHAT
CANDIDATES PUNISHED FOR WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THIS BILL?
THEY SAID ABOUT THIS BILL? >> PUNISHED IS HARD TO SAY.
>> PUNISHED IS HARD TO SAY. IF YOU THINK YOU CAN.
IF YOU THINK YOU CAN. YOU'LL END UP WRONG.
YOU'LL END UP WRONG. WHAT IS INTERESTING.
WHAT IS INTERESTING. A POLL FOR LIKELY REPUBLICAN
A POLL FOR LIKELY REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
VOTERS. REPUBLICAN VOTERS, VOTED IN THE
REPUBLICAN VOTERS, VOTED IN THE LAST TWO PRIMARIES.
LAST TWO PRIMARIES. STRONG REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
STRONG REPUBLICAN VOTERS. OVER HALF OF THEM WERE URGING
OVER HALF OF THEM WERE URGING THE GOVERNOR TO VETO THE BILL.
THE GOVERNOR TO VETO THE BILL. OR WILL OTHER ISSUES ECLIPSE
OR WILL OTHER ISSUES ECLIPSE THIS.
THIS. FEBRUARY OR BEGINNING OF MARCH.
FEBRUARY OR BEGINNING OF MARCH. WE HAVE LOTS OF TIME BETWEEN NOW
WE HAVE LOTS OF TIME BETWEEN NOW AND ELECTION DAY.
AND ELECTION DAY. BUT I THINK IT WILL COME UP.
BUT I THINK IT WILL COME UP. WE SAW THIS IN YOUR INTERVIEW.
WE SAW THIS IN YOUR INTERVIEW. ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY.
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. WHAT IS THE REPRESENTATION OF
WHAT IS THE REPRESENTATION OF ARIZONA NOW.
ARIZONA NOW. A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKING
A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKING REFERENCES TO SB 1070 TIME
REFERENCES TO SB 1070 TIME PERIOD.
PERIOD. IS THIS YET AGAIN ON THE MEND
IS THIS YET AGAIN ON THE MEND FOR THE STATE.
FOR THE STATE. AND WHAT MANY SAY MAY BE A BLACK
AND WHAT MANY SAY MAY BE A BLACK EYE THIS TIME AROUND.
EYE THIS TIME AROUND. >> THAT'S WHAT WHITAKER WAS
>> THAT'S WHAT WHITAKER WAS TALKING ABOUT.
TALKING ABOUT. HE SAID PEOPLE ARE FORGIVING.
HE SAID PEOPLE ARE FORGIVING. JEN RAT P
JEN RAT P THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS FORGIVING.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS FORGIVING. PEOPLE WILL NOT CANCEL
PEOPLE WILL NOT CANCEL VACATIONS.
VACATIONS. THE SUPER BOWL WAS GOING TO STAY
THE SUPER BOWL WAS GOING TO STAY HERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
HERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ONCE AGAIN.
ONCE AGAIN. ARIZONA IS IN THE NATIONAL
ARIZONA IS IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA.
MEDIA. IN A WAY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
IN A WAY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT FEW SEE ARIZONA IN
DON'T WANT FEW SEE ARIZONA IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA.
THE NATIONAL MEDIA. HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT LONG
HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT LONG TERM.
TERM. THE HOT TOPIC.
THE HOT TOPIC. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TOPIC WILL BE
WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TOPIC WILL BE NEXT WEEK.
NEXT WEEK. HOW QUICKLY WILL PEOPLE FORGET.
HOW QUICKLY WILL PEOPLE FORGET. >> WHAT ELSE ARE WE EXPECTING TO
>> WHAT ELSE ARE WE EXPECTING TO SEE FROM THE LEGISLATURE THE
SEE FROM THE LEGISLATURE THE NEXT WEEK OR SO?
NEXT WEEK OR SO? >> WELL, ACTUALLY SO MUCH
>> WELL, ACTUALLY SO MUCH ATTENTION WAS ON 1062, THE LEDGE
ATTENTION WAS ON 1062, THE LEDGE CH
CH -- LEGISLATURE WAS WORKING ON
-- LEGISLATURE WAS WORKING ON OTHER THINGS THIS WEEK.
OTHER THINGS THIS WEEK. ONE THING, THE HOUSE GAVE
ONE THING, THE HOUSE GAVE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL, NEEDS MORE
PRELIMINARY APPROVAL, NEEDS MORE VOTES FROM THE FULL CHAMBER.
VOTES FROM THE FULL CHAMBER. TO A BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW
TO A BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW SURPRISE INSPECTIONS OF ABORTION
SURPRISE INSPECTIONS OF ABORTION CLINKS IN ARIZONA.
CLINKS IN ARIZONA. SUPPORTERS SAY THE ONLY MEDICAL
SUPPORTERS SAY THE ONLY MEDICAL FACILITY IN THE STATE YOU CAN
FACILITY IN THE STATE YOU CAN MAKE A SURPRISE INSPECTION ON.
MAKE A SURPRISE INSPECTION ON. YOU CAN'T GO IN AN ABORTION
YOU CAN'T GO IN AN ABORTION CLINIC ON SURPRISE INSPECTION.
CLINIC ON SURPRISE INSPECTION. DEMOCRATS OWE POSED IT.
DEMOCRATS OWE POSED IT. THE REASON TIPS PROTECT, A
THE REASON TIPS PROTECT, A WOMAN'S PRIVACY -- THEY WERE
WOMAN'S PRIVACY -- THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT LAWSUITS.
WORRIED ABOUT LAWSUITS. IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND BECOMES
IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND BECOMES LAW IN THE STATE.
LAW IN THE STATE. THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE LAWSUIT
THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE LAWSUIT SHOULD COME TO THE HOUSE SPEAKER
SHOULD COME TO THE HOUSE SPEAKER AND THE SENATE PRESIDENT'S
AND THE SENATE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET.
BUDGET. THAT PROPOSAL DIDN'T PASS.
THAT PROPOSAL DIDN'T PASS. THAT PART DIDN'T PASS.
THAT PART DIDN'T PASS. AND THE REMENT, WHO SPONSORED
AND THE REMENT, WHO SPONSORED THE BILL SUGGESTED ON THE FLOOR,
THE BILL SUGGESTED ON THE FLOOR, THAT DEMOCRATS COULD PREVENT A
THAT DEMOCRATS COULD PREVENT A LOT OF LAWSUITS.
LOT OF LAWSUITS. AND BY JUST TELLING PLANNED
AND BY JUST TELLING PLANNED PARENTHOOD NOT TO SUE.
PARENTHOOD NOT TO SUE. I'M NOT SURE THAT IS A
I'M NOT SURE THAT IS A PARTICULARLY LIKELY ACTION -- TO
PARTICULARLY LIKELY ACTION -- TO HAPPEN.
HAPPEN. BUT IF IT GOES THROUGH, WE WILL
BUT IF IT GOES THROUGH, WE WILL PROBABLY SEE A LAWSUIT.
PROBABLY SEE A LAWSUIT. >> AND WE SAW A LOT OF PUBLIC
>> AND WE SAW A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTCRY OVER SB 1062.
OUTCRY OVER SB 1062. NOW TALKING ABORTION CLINICS.
NOW TALKING ABORTION CLINICS. DID SB 1062.
DID SB 1062. OPEN THE DOOR FOR PEOPLE TO BE
OPEN THE DOOR FOR PEOPLE TO BE TRIND WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE
TRIND WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE CAPITOL.
CAPITOL. ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS MOVING
ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD.
FORWARD. MORE TENSION FRUCHLT JOM THE GE
MORE TENSION FRUCHLT JOM THE GE PUBLIC.
PUBLIC. >> WHAT'S INTERESTING.
>> WHAT'S INTERESTING. WE TACKED LKED TO LEGISLATIVE
WE TACKED LKED TO LEGISLATIVE LEADERS.
LEADERS. WANTED TO GET OUT.
WANTED TO GET OUT. ALL UP FOR RE-ELECTION.
ALL UP FOR RE-ELECTION. JUST GET THEIR JOB DONE.
JUST GET THEIR JOB DONE. GET OUT.
GET OUT. NOW WE HAVE HAD CONTROVERSY NOW.
NOW WE HAVE HAD CONTROVERSY NOW. PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. AGA
AGA AGAIN, THE PUBLIC CAN BE PRETTY
AGAIN, THE PUBLIC CAN BE PRETTY QUICKLY DISTRACTED ALSO.
QUICKLY DISTRACTED ALSO. WHO KNOWS WHAT THE NEWS WILL BE
WHO KNOWS WHAT THE NEWS WILL BE NEXT WEEK.
NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER, PEOPLE ARE WATCHING
HOWEVER, PEOPLE ARE WATCHING VERY CAREFULLY.
VERY CAREFULLY. RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. HOW LONG IT LASTS.
HOW LONG IT LASTS. HOW QUICKLY THE LEGISLATURE CAN
HOW QUICKLY THE LEGISLATURE CAN GET THEIR WORK DONE AND GET OUT
GET THEIR WORK DONE AND GET OUT IS THE QUESTION.
IS THE QUESTION. >> HOW ARIZONA WILL BE RECEIVED
>> HOW ARIZONA WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC REMAINS TO
BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
BE SEEN. OKAY.
OKAY. CHRISTOPHER CONOVER.
CHRISTOPHER CONOVER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYSIS. FOR YOUR COVERAGE THROUGHOUT
FOR YOUR COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR THIS
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR THIS WEEK.
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