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let's can start on health care over the weekend as a lot of you know we sort of
debate
in the senate
they uh... a lot of getting all all sixty members of the democratic caucus
fifty eight democrats into independence
uh... to get past the republic filibustered at least
begin the debate
okay congratulations
and uh... the real question of course is whether we're gonna be able to and the
debate
uh... and that's going to come up in a couple of weeks and at that point
therefore critical senators it appears now
uh... base of the latest news that we have
uh... that might join the republicans and filibustered so that there is no
bill
they are blank slate of arkansas
uh... maryland through louisiana ben nelson of nebraska and joe lieberman of
connecticut they say they are not in favor of the public option and that is
one of the main sticking points although joe lieberman has said on many occasions
that he plans to
uh... that it wasn't just a little public option is not enough for him
it appears is going to join her opponent filibuster
perhaps under
uh... not all circumstances but many other circumstances that have been
presented
so i that's a real sticky problem form of four harry reid who's of course the
senate
uh... majority leader
now how it'd be on this is the question at hand
and
people who are
in the progress of severe like howard dean who's in
very much
i would say the leader of that
uh... side of the spectrum
have come out and said you know what
uh... we gotta go to reconciliation
because he's on the depression and this is very important impression
that they're not going to be able to get those four senators
if they still have the public option and at schumer incorporate some of the
others are still negotiating
with those senators
but would be his afraid of what a lot of progress activists are afraid of is that
inordinate he's just those four senators
but they're gonna give away the public
now d makes a very strong case against that we've got some clothes for you guys
that we want to leave these until about a gun shows clip number six
uh... and i think this is and number of things here that are
very very important indicative of where the debate stamps
that is part time job in the short run of the public option without a problem
ration
basically they've acted as the democratic party sit on their hands in
two thousand ten obama's not on the ballot there's no reason to go out and
vote for democratic congressman given any money if they can't pass a health
care bill it's worth anything
and so that's a huge problem for the democrats that that's not in there and
it looks like a course to some of the few the folks are gonna let me let it in
there
uh... the deficit is a big problem in the longer term do you expect this to be
paid for
the biggest problem is one is not on the last i think you have people actually
have insurance by the election time in two thousand centers if you don't all
the rumors and they know the death panels in the rationing and that you can
see your own doctor city off road up at election time is that he said she said
one of these i discovered in my career in politics is
if you want to dispel rumors and fears in stop fear-mongering actually get get
the bills done
and yet some people in short of the best way to do that is they have a public
option and they could be medicare with some obviously some pain adjusted
justin's and let some people understand ur sixty five in the medicare still
awaiting get this thing up and running by two thousand ten let some people
under sixty five get in the medicare between by starring stage a june first
of two thousand said after the president signs the bill to all the rumors go away
at what point doctor do you do we have good knowledge in our political process
is not equipped to solve this problem i've had problems like this simply
pocket resolve to favor trading in a comedy special interests
they could only be solved the politicians who actually understand the
issue and are willing to do the obvious if you want to cover more people have a
casa last you have to break monopolies and come up with new plans you can't
just uh... doo-doo source for very well i i think i thought they were trading
doesn't bother me that my sort of the man who is he has that has a much right
to it
so money as soon as as new yorker california does that uh... you know that
set the stage although i mean that
if that happens is as much the
the problem of the body as it is the person dressing for the money off the
site of the bigger the big problem is the policy new thing has been pretty
watered down right now it's about as water down as they can get without with
and still be a real bill
for example there's really no insurance reform in this bill already itis figure
this out the last few days even the house bill which is the better of the
children in the senate bills at these and bill leader of the house bill
you can be charged twice as much for insurance if you have a pre-existing
additional that's not really guaranteed issue our community rating
so there's not a lot left in this bill the public action is about at
haberdashery but let's be honest of your insurance company and you can get it
legalize it everybody have to buy insurance for that or they pay taxes
it's a pretty good deal of your health insurance company that's the thing if
they get rid of the public up to this is just a bill to give away taxpayers'
money the insurance companies just like they did to the banks an edgy and i
think the democratic party goes over and start up in smoke rising sanders has got
the right out here
you michael kill this thing because the people who really furious if it passes
today another public option
audit we got a lot their to get the first of all uh... if you missed it he
was threatening
is that a friend yes bidders uh... basically
telling the that democrats we listen
uh... you're not going to any more money to and he said this in another interview
the democratic senatorial campaign committee or the democratic
congressional campaign committee
because they get all the democrats now why would at people continue to give
money to all the democrats
if well all the democrats didn't vote for up to report if they kill the public
action the most important part of it
at the end there he explains
you know as we've done on numerous occasions so important because without
the public option
it what would you have is a mandate
where we have to pay the private insurance companies
and indeed union jack upper prices
and you know what that is in the long run
not only is it bad for us
it's an electoral disaster for the democratic party
they whine a passing a bill that does in some ways more harm
them dot
that he says than bernie sanders is right bination tell it if it doesn't
have the public option
not because i have spite not because of
uh... political gamesmanship but some of this is not a good bell
you know i think there's that some beers a real interesting point to be made
enter an interesting debate to be have been right now senator sanders shared
brown and uh... enrolled bursar sent without a public option we're not bought
before
uh... so
if there were other
standstill here or
we got two guys or two sides at least
staring each other down saying we're not going to have this bill one way or
another
and so i was harry get beyond that and what
howard dean suggests is gota reconciliation where you only need
fifty one votes or fifty votes and then
uh... biden can break the tie
the administration is so inclined
uh... but harry sent from the get beginning that he's not going to go to
reconciliation that he's going to try to get the sixty votes
well that's a perilous track and
obviously a dean is going on their fans of your cassie things re doesn't have
the votes
he thinks is not going to get those four guys thus i now with the public option
the idea of not passing a bill is political suicide for everyone involved
on the democratic side
so they're gonna pass a bill
the question is what's in it is it worth it or is it not worth it
i think the only reason why for the first time
i think
well i think there is a small chance that they won't pass it
is because some like senators and rollovers that dug in their heels and
they're saying
love you don't get it idon't like this bill without a public option
i think it it
will increase our premiums
and that it's etc and that there's no cost control
soft i'm gonna vote against it
so you think allow at least i get a week watered down version everybody'll be
pretend to be happy it might be a bad bill but who cares will get it passed
if the only care about us politics well sanders and births and maybe browner
saying
no i'm not gonna let you pass that bill
well that's an interesting development ok because now we reward
and how that works resolve over the next couple weeks isn't
perry
very interesting
in the past i would say they have a going to do the nicest trigger
compromise
it's bs is not true but no pass and there will be a lot of down and then god
help us and we'll see you know they'll definitely be sum up sides i don't want
it pretend that there are no up says there's deftly outside within their
allotted downsizings dean points out there know this yet none of the benefits
going i think the blog twenty
fourteen
and by that time
they're gonna attack an attack an attack the republicans
and some of the many begin before twenty fourteen
and by that time bill repealed it okay
if you like in the first place
so there's a lot to me
the only thing that
apple all of these compromise a shared browner's thought part about it than the
last week
afro all these compromises
the only thing that stays it is the public about
if it doesn't have it in their and they don't
these guys these four senators joined a republican filibuster
and they and harry wall put the reconciliation and brocco obama's white
house won't fight
although we got trouble we got real trouble
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