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He murdered somebody, and he's laughing about it.
There's something here that wants me to die.
It seems like a devil.
I refused to believe it.
This thing is the possessor, people worshipped it.
This is the worst case I've ever heard.
I just want to not be afraid anymore.
(Amy) It can take souls.
It's really bad in here.
My name is Amy Allan.
Something is not right.
I see dead people.
This person might've been a serial killer.
I speak to dead people,
You get those chills.
and they speak to me.
He is darkness, he is evil.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
I think she broke her neck.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve DiSchiavi, I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
You tellin' me the truth?
I know every person, every house, has secrets.
I think the devil is down here.
It's my job to reveal them.
Who the hell would do this?
But Steve and I never speak.
We never communicate during an investigation.
Who's he looking to kill?
Then we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
You need to get out of here right now.
Or time to get out.
It was like endless darkness.
(Steve) Amy and I conduct our investigations separately.
I interview living witnesses, experts, and dig through the property's dark past,
while Amy communicates with the other side.
I'm in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, heading over to see a woman named Jodi.
The activity in her home is so bad,
she and her husband are getting attacked on a daily basis.
She wants to sell,
but he wants to stay and fight.
She says if Amy and I can't help her out, she thinks her marriage is done for.
(Matthew) Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information.
This home has a lot of family photos that have to be covered or removed.
Once they're gone, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
(Amy) I just see, like, a woman off in the distance.
She has very, like, Native American features.
I don't think she's well.
She has a lot of anger.
So this woman that I was talking about earlier
says that she just wanted everyone
to understand... like, she didn't betray them
or mean to hurt anyone, but that, at the same time,
they needed to learn a lesson.
She feels like they deserve it.
(Steve) So, Jodi, I'm glad I'm here, because things sounded pretty bad on the phone.
It's rough.
[voice breaking] It's really rough.
'Cause I feel like nobody believes me, and...
you try to tell people, and they look at you
like you're crazy.
Listen, we're here to help, okay?
All right? We're here to help you, so...
it's gonna be okay, okay? We're gonna see what we can do.
All right?
Okay, so who lives here with you, your husband?
Just me and my husband.
We've lived here since 2004.
I didn't even want to live in this house.
Okay, why'd you call us now, though?
Because of the attacks.
They are more frequent now.
I'm touched every day...
it's just constant.
I'm hearing things throughout the house.
I see shadows,
and it's gotten
to the point where I just feel like
I'm being followed everywhere I go.
I go take a shower,
and it actually feels like
somebody has climbed in the shower with me.
I feel like something has attached itself to me.
I worry about what's gonna happen to me.
I never know what's gonna happen from day to day.
I just don't know.
The Native American woman, she follows this person around.
Can you talk about the person she's...talking to?
Umm, living person...
seems to be a female...
umm, probably about...forties?
I'm not sure what she wants from her,
I just know that she is with her a lot.
'Cause, I mean, I see them, like, in the kitchen together,
I see them showering together, I see them...
you know, her in the room at night.
The dead girl is not helping the living woman.
What's going on in here?
I saw an apparition walk past the doorway,
and they were wearing blue jeans and boots.
So what are we talking about, like cowboy boots, or like work boots?
They look like work boots.
It was a man.
Okay, so have you seen anything else like that?
I've seen, like, a dark shadow of a figure.
I just see it out of the corner of my eye,
and it's like you turn, and it's gone.
Now, let me ask you a question, what do you think is going on in this house?
I feel like there's something here that...
wants me to die.
(Amy) The thing that I'm seeing looks like what's depicted
in the Catholic religion as a devil.
To me, it looks like it has long nails, and evil and (bleep).
It's saying that it can take
as many souls as it likes.
Like, I'm like, "What are you?" and he's like, "I am the darkness."
(Matthew) How would people experience him?
It's solid, she's definitely seen it.
(Matthew) Can it hurt people?
It's saying it can and it will.
(Amy) It's a trickster, it's a liar,
it's a manipulator.
So, Jodi, why'd you bring me in the basement, what's going on here?
I've seen an apparition of an Indian sitting right there.
Talking about like a Native American Indian?
(Jodi) Yes.
It looked like he was dressed, like, ready for war.
Okay, are you experiencing anything else down here?
Um, yeah, I hear...
what sounds like...
hammers, boards being moved.
I want to describe it as almost like somebody working on the house.
You have that feeling of uneasiness down here,
I can see it just lookin' at you.
Yeah, I...don't even want to be here right now.
Okay, all right, so why don't we get out of here?
You've spent enough time down here with me.
[nails scratching against wood]
Yeah, (bleep) around with the doors.
I think this thing is the possessor.
The thing says that, you know, people worshipped it.
The Native Americans, they would allow it inside of them
to do things because that was the way to keep the peace.
I think it would oftentimes kill the person it possessed.
(Steve) Okay, Jodi, so what's going on up here?
As soon as I turn my light off
to try to close my eyes and go to sleep,
that's when it gets worse.
Are you getting physically touched up here?
[voice breaking] I've had some stuff happen to me up here,
like, almost like somebody's
trying to wake me up
in an arousal kind of way.
Okay.
And you toss, you turn, you move,
you...you know, you say, "Get away from me,"
and before you know it,
something is over me that you can't see.
Okay.
And I was, um...
attacked, sexually.
Have you told anybody this?
I tried to tell my husband about it,
and I don't feel like he believes
what happened to me.
[voice breaking] Um, it's just real hard to talk about.
I'd imagine that's gotta be the most horrific thing for a woman to have to deal with.
When I was a young girl,
I was sexually assaulted.
How old were you when this happened?
Um...I was about 12 years old. [sniffles]
Look at me, okay?
So you can trust me, all right? I'm listening to everything you're telling me, okay?
I just want it to end,
I just want to not
be afraid in my own house anymore.
It's so hard, because I spend
so much time in this house, alone.
I'm gonna make this okay, all right? Come here, I promise.
I'm gonna make this right, we're gonna figure it out, okay?
Don't worry about it.
(Amy) I think it can do vile things.
Like what?
Inappropriate... *** things, sometimes.
And it's very traumatizing and scary for this person,
as I understand.
I hear somebody in this room, a female.
She's mad, she's very angry, she feels attacked.
She's being messed with by the...uh, the thing.
It's found her secrets, and it's like...
messing with her mind through her secrets or something.
And she's like, can't take it anymore, she's like...
[sighs] she's very stressed out.
I feel like it's saying, like, "You know I'm a part of you,
you know you're a part of me, I'm gonna get you."
(Amy) She's very stressed out.
I feel like it's saying, like, "You know I'm a part of you,
you know you're a part of me, I'm gonna get you."
So it's mentally abusing her, I guess.
Is this thing targeting her?
Yes, it is.
Patrick, let me ask you a question, do you know any history of the house?
A little bit, I did read a few things about some...
the American Indians in this area.
There was a lot of fighting with other tribes
in this particular valley.
Mmhm.
and I've done a lot of these cases,
and she...she's having a tough time here.
I mean, at first, I really...
didn't believe any of it, I refused to believe it.
Are you still refusing to believe it?
Um, I can't.
What do you mean you can't?
Me and Jodi was in the living room talking,
and...we decided to turn the TV off.
So when I turned it off,
I saw a man
sitting on the arm of her chair,
and I told her, I said, "Jodi, do you see this?"
She says, "What?" I said, "Look in the TV."
And I looked over at her, and I looked back, it was gone.
There was nothing there, just her reflection.
What'd he look like?
He had...I want to call it a farmer's hat.
It looked like he had a beard.
He looked angry,
and it scared me.
So what you're telling me is that you're not a skeptic of what's going on.
You believe there's something going on in your house.
Yeah, I know there's something going on here.
But yet at the same time, your wife seems to think
you're not believing anything she's telling you.
Right.
and I came home, she was...
in, I would say, a state of shock,
I mean, she was just white as a ghost, she was trembling, she was upset.
Well, I went off,
and I called 'em all out.
I said, "Look, if you're this bad and you're this tough, show yourself."
Okay, so what happened?
I woke up with bruises on my lower back.
And I can't figure out what he is.
It seems like he keeps that form,
like, that look of, like, a devil.
(Amy) He also likes to make people feel trapped.
I don't know, like, he's up in the...
up, up...
He's saying, like, he murdered somebody or something,
and he's laughing about it.
(Patrick) My main concern right now is my wife.
She sobbed when I spoke with her, sobbed .
I can't give her answers, and she keeps asking me,
Right.
That's why I spend so much time out here.
It's breakin' my heart, the both of you,
I mean, it sounds like you two aren't communicating.
You want to help, you just don't know how.
It's went downhill, it's went downhill fast,
faster than we want, but we don't know what to do to fix it.
She's concerned that the house is gonna kill her.
Wow.
She's been attacked,
and attacked in ways that nobody should be attacked.
I-I think it wants...
whatever it is wants to hurt her again.
Like I said, I'm not... I don't want to say dead,
because I don't want to see that happen, but...
This is the worst case I've ever heard
as far as paranormal stuff.
Can we take a break?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's all right.
[sobbing quietly]
[Patrick exhales loudly]
Patrick told me there were some violent Native American wars on his property.
Now, most times client leads turn out to be a dead end,
but this one I want to check out.
I've reached out to a local historian
to see if there's any truth to what Patrick said.
So my client told me that the land I'm investigating, where his house is,
at one time there was warring Native Americans, is that correct?
That's correct.
There was a treaty signed in 1768,
and that delineated Native American property
from white settler property.
But the white settlers didn't always obey those guidelines,
and so they were squatting on Native American property.
And that includes the property I'm investigating?
Okay.
Well, the Senecas went on a rampage,
in part because the British had prompted them,
they had given them guns,
they had given them ammunition,
and the Native Americans began these attacks
to antagonize the white settlers
to move them off the property.
How many white settlers did get killed during these conflicts?
There are at least 370 documented.
Now who was in charge of these guys?
They were led by Chief Cornplanter.
He was a very peaceful man.
He didn't sound so peaceful after what you just told me.
I think, perhaps, he was a reluctant warrior.
He loved his nation, he loved his tribe,
and so he decided to go along, of course,
with the majority, and the majority ruled.
[footsteps]
(Amy) So now I'm seeing this guy.
I think it's a Native American.
Um...
he has feathers in his hair.
I think he feels guilty.
There's only so much that you want to see
your enemies fall to revenge.
I think he thinks he needs to make things right.
(Amy) This Native American knows all about the devil creature
I've been seeing throughout the house,
and he's telling me his people had to deal with it, too.
He's saying people worshipped it,
and, um...but not anymore.
You know, you have to do things
for this devil, otherwise,
it will do uncontrollable things.
Now let me ask you a question about the property I'm investigating.
Any of those attacks happen right on my property?
Okay.
the Plum Tree Massacre, as it's widely known, occurred.
Okay, what happened?
There was a wagonload of 16 settlers,
and there were Native Americans of the Seneca tribe.
They were concealed in a group of plum trees.
And so when the wagon passed through,
the Native Americans attacked.
So 16 settlers go through, and they get ambushed.
Were they all killed?
Twelve were massacred-- there were two children who were killed.
Two of the people were women, they were both scalped
and stabbed, tomahawked, and left for dead.
And two of the girls were kidnapped.
Do you know what happened to them?
I know that they were taken to Canada.
I don't know the rest of the story.
Okay.
[grass crunching]
I'm hearing a lot of...
gunfire nearby.
And this man, he's hiding,
he's crouched down, and he's, like, shivering,
and he's hearing all of
the fighting and gunshots.
It was unexpected-- whatever happened was completely unexpected.
Women are screaming and running,
people are running all over the place.
Men are yelling at each other and shooting each other
and shooting people-- somebody's yelling about the apocalypse.
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I definitely want to follow up on what happened to
the two young girls kidnapped on my client's property.
I'm heading over to meet with a local author
who says the story had a very dramatic ending.
So I understand there was this Plum Tree Massacre on the property I'm investigating
and that two young girls were actually kidnapped
by the Native Americans that did that massacre.
What can you tell me about that?
The two girls' names were Ruth and Sarah King, age 2 and 4.
Their father's name was William King,
he was a member of the militia, the colonial militia,
and he was out of the area when the massacre took place,
but the mother, Rachel,
was gruesomely killed in front of her two daughters,
but, for some reason, these girls were spared
and taken up the Sheshequin Trail to Canada.
Okay.
The younger child, Ruth,
was sold to the wife of a British officer
who apparently couldn't have children,
and we don't know for sure what happened to her sister Sarah,
but she did survive, and she was in the area there.
Okay, so now, William King comes back
and found out his wife was murdered and his two kids were missing.
That's correct.
There's this man... I feel like he's alone.
I think maybe his wife is dead,
and maybe his children are far away.
There's also, like, a woman off in the distance.
Like, I kinda get "escapee" with her.
She has a lot of anger,
definitely a lost soul, that's for sure.
So what happened with the kids?
Well, their father never totally gave up hope that he'd find them,
and seven years after the massacre happened,
he found out where they were, and so he set out to retrieve them.
He found an Indian guide
to take him north towards Fort Niagara.
Okay.
Somehow, he recovers the two children
and brings them back down to the Williamsport area
and led what appeared to be a fairly normal life
'til, in 1802, he had an accident
on the river, a creek, he fell in,
got paralyzed, and it lingered for several days,
and died at the age of 57.
(Steve) I'm heading to the local library to find anything else I can about my client's property.
Searching through the archives,
I discovered the Lord family lived there for generations.
Turns out, a lot of the family members died on my client's land.
But a local genealogist tells me a couple of those deaths
might help my investigation.
Now, the Lord family owned the property I'm investigating for a pretty long time.
Yes, nearly 80 years,
from 1882 to 1961.
Now, of all the deaths on this property,
you said a couple of them are unusual.
Oh, yes, there were two sisters.
The first was Sarah Bricker,
she lived in the house out back of the property,
and, in 1903,
she came over to visit her sister next door
and just fell over dead.
From what?
What we would now say is stroke or a cerebral hemorrhage.
Okay, so Sarah was 40 years old,
which was young, even for back then.
Yes.
Then, ten years later, her sister, Amanda Lord,
passes away suddenly of the same thing.
Wow.
Okay, so ten years apart, two sisters die
from the same illness on the same property.
Yes.
That is unusual.
It's a sickness here.
Someone died in this room, very ill, female.
This woman...
she crawls into the ceiling and disappears.
So she doesn't have any interaction with anybody.
Her pain is still something that is here
in a physical way.
She's like, "Oh, you know, bad, bad, it was bad."
(Amy) There were several entities that stood out during my walk,
but what has me the most concerned
is the devil creature that's tormenting a living woman.
This thing was coming out of a closet,
and it was pitch black, but its skin was, like, glossy.
And there was a woman who was yelling at him.
Is this what you saw?
Yes.
(Steve) Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
Well, Amy, I gotta tell ya,
this is probably one of the hardest cases I've ever worked on.
I want to introduce you to Jodi and Patrick.
They're a married couple that live here.
Listening to their stories was pretty gut-wrenching for me.
Bottom line is, Jodi thinks there's something
in this house that's trying to kill them
and kill her specifically.
It's tearing their marriage apart.
They called us in because we're their last hope.
So, with that being said, I'm gonna ask Amy
to tell us a little bit about her walk.
I'm definitely aware that there's a lot of issues here,
and, um, we'll get into everything
slowly but surely.
I went to the back yard,
and I saw a lot of
really odd,
like, violent and chaotic images.
I was hearing gunfire.
It wasn't just men, you know, I heard women screaming.
I think I saw a woman get shot.
Whatever was happening had just come out of nowhere.
A lot of what you're saying is something I uncovered
and that you had pointed me in the direction of.
You gotta know something about this property we're on, Amy.
It was the scene of
fierce battles of
Native Americans against white settlers.
On June 10 in 1778, right on this property,
there was an event called the Plum Tree Massacre,
and when that massacre was over,
men, women, and children were murdered,
all shot, stabbed, and scalped.
Where did the Native Americans live?
(Steve) Here, this is their land.
White settlers were breaking a treaty that was set in 1768.
(Amy) Well, a lot of other stuff I got is totally
(Steve) Okay.
At one point, I went into the basement,
and I encountered a Native American man.
He said that
he feels guilty,
and he feels like, you know, you can only want
so much agony for your enemies.
Now, Jodi, you saw a Native American man
Yes.
Describe that for Amy for me.
He was sitting... what looked like he was sitting on top of
the pipe in the back room of the basement.
The brown pants, um, I could see the white feathers.
I turned to walk away
and turned back around, and he was gone.
Who I think
both of you might have encountered
is, um, this guy Chief Cornplanter.
He was the war chief for the Seneca tribe.
This is a portrait.
Cornplanter is his Indian name translated.
Wow.
(Steve) He was considered a peaceful man.
He didn't want to be part of any kind of fighting.
But after his tribe made a treaty with the British army,
he became a violent killer.
He's responsible for killing at least
370 men, women, and children in this area.
Even though he was a peaceful man, he turned into one of the bloodiest killers...
Which makes sense.
So, is this who you think you saw?
(Steve) Okay.
(Amy) I also ran into a Native American woman.
Unfortunately, the other thing I got
was that she actually had attached herself to you.
Like, I literally kinda saw her, like, holding your arm.
She even, like, goes into the bath with you.
Like, she just doesn't really leave you alone,
she's always kind of by your side.
And I would think that you would feel her presence,
because she's always on you.
Everywhere I go in this house, I feel...
it feels like somebody else's
energy around me, constantly.
Anywhere I sit, it just feels like somebody
is with me, sharing my body.
It's just everywhere I go.
I go to bed at night... somebody's there.
I'm just not ever alone.
I tried to tell my family
what was going on in my house,
and they all
laughed at me and ridiculed me.
I don't go to family functions,
because I know what they say about me behind my back.
Plus she doesn't think that Patrick actually believes anything she says.
(Amy) I understand people who are skeptics,
because I think that when they lash out like that,
it's based out of fear and ignorance.
I've gotta see things in order to believe it.
It's been a tremendous strain on our family.
It's been almost three years
that we've been puttin' up with this,
the ridicule.
But this is your wife and your partner in your life.
You need to stand by her side
and screw the people who are callin' her names.
(Jodi) I get so angry,
because he goes...
[voice breaking] he goes and he leaves me sittin' here,
knowin' how they feel about me,
and it's very hard
to sit here alone,
and I can't do anything with them,
because, because they think I'm crazy.
(Patrick) You see right now,
I mean, it's tearin' me up right now,
because she's so tore up.
I know this has been a pretty tough night already,
but I think, Amy, you have more stuff?
I also came into contact with
another entity.
It...showed itself to me
at one point to look like a traditional,
out-of-the-Bible devil.
The truer self of it
was, like,
this very tall, um, completely black
but with, like, shiny skin,
and it had long, like, fingers and nails
and little horns, and, um...
it can show itself in different ways.
A Native American female told me that
this thing
had been here for a very long time.
How would they see it is what I'm curious about?
I would think some kind of blackness.
I see a lot of
dark figure shadows moving through the kitchen
and a lot up in my bedroom.
It seemed to me that he was focusing on you.
He had found whatever weakness
he perceives from you, about you.
He was psychologically abusing you.
He was grabbing and licking you
and doing inappropriate *** things to you.
[voice breaking] I was sexually assaulted several times in the house.
I've been traumatized
and basically terrorized for three years.
I feel something standing over me when I'm in my bed,
and I'm scared.
How you doin' over there?
The day that she was attacked, that I came home,
I went through this house, screaming,
and I called whatever it was,
"You want something to deal with, come get me."
And I woke up with bruises
on my back.
That's one of the things I can't...
debunk.
It's hard for me to be intimate
with my own husband
because of what happened to me.
She shared with me, when she was younger, much younger, she was...
I was gonna ask, right.
sexually assaulted by a family member.
She doesn't have a support system.
She does now.
I did do a sketch of what I saw upstairs in your room,
and...it seemed to be
that you were...very angry
and stressed out at the time.
Oh, (bleep).
[sobbing]
I just want my life back.
[Jodi sobbing]
Jodi, come here.
[Jodi sobs]
(Amy) I did do a sketch of what I saw upstairs in your room,
and...it seemed to be
that you were...very angry
and stressed out at the time.
Oh, (bleep).
[sobbing]
(Jodi) I just want my life back.
[Jodi sobbing]
Come here, Jodi, come here.
(Patrick) Put your arms around me, Jodi, please.
[Jodi, sobbing] Nobody believed me.
(Patrick) Who cares? (bleep) 'em.
Look at me-- we will take care of this, okay?
(Patrick) I love you.
[Jodi crying]
You okay?
What is this thing?
This thing says that
it has taken souls before.
It says that it has and will hurt people.
And it stated, you know that he's a part of you
and you're a part of him and that he's going to get you.
He was also trying to project bad images
or dreams or something to you to try to make you hurt yourself,
and that's part of the manipulation that he was doing.
Now listen, Jodi, Patrick, this has gotta be...
one of the most extremely emotional nights you've ever been through.
I know it has been for me when it comes to working these cases.
But Jodi, now you know you're not crazy,
and you're actually in a fight against something that's real.
Now, the big question, is there anything you can do about it?
And can you live a normal life
and get your marriage back on track?
For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy
and see what she has to say.
After the walk,
I did some research.
Because I came into contact with so many Native Americans,
I wanted to see if there was anything in their history
that would clarify
maybe what this could be.
What I came across was
something that tribes referred to as
the clown, the trickster,
and heyoka .
It was a human, but they also felt
that it was half man and half spirit.
It's very possible that this entity
was a human being at one point
and was part of a tribe,
and when he died, he became the embodiment of it.
So how do they get rid of this thing?
First thing is, you should contact
your local Native American tribe.
That would be the Seneca tribe for this area.
(Amy) And you want to connect with the shaman,
let them know everything that's been going on,
and then allow them to do whatever ceremony they think is necessary.
Being raised Catholic and listening to everything
and seeing what I saw,
part of me wants to still
follow the train of thought that this is some type of demon.
The next day, I would like you
to have someone from your church come to your home
and perform an exorcism of the house.
What about this woman that's attached to her, what happens with her?
(Amy) As you start doing
an exorcism, this Native American male
will remove her.
I don't think I have to ask you if you're gonna take Amy's advice.
I'm definitely gonna do everything she told me to do.
I just want this gone, I want...
I want to be able to live in my home in peace
and not have to worry about this when I lay my head down at night.
I can't say I'm a skeptic anymore.
(Amy) I'm not sure whether it will be the shaman or the exorcism
that will get rid of these evil entities,
but if they follow my advice and perform these two rituals,
Jodi and Patrick will finally be free
and able to live in peace again.
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