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when welcome everywhere d here and also uh... distinguished panelists i will be
introducing a second
also want to add to my arm fire at the progress that were sort of graduate
media studies program at pratt institute so students who are coming up that
interested in graduate studies of should check that out it's going to be very
exciting uh...
i would also wanted to say a couple of very brief words about on the internet
it's been twenty years since we from had one north of the public does not have
access to it
and uh... that seems to me that uh...
insisted there's a lot of very exciting beginnings not taking place uh...
and uh... the innovators to steer or among prague those
incessant barking on new projects and really interesting projects
but we're also facing some endings i suppose um... among them on
unease about the mark
culminated tabor privacy and also about the non corporate
and posted in a chariot post against terry and character of uh... the
internet
on and also i mean in certain fences at the internet would be exothermic an anti
racist feminist ***
prison abolitionist socialist utopia pick it up
i mean i i i think it's um... it's not that exactly um... although some of the
sort of working to change that
as well arm but this disenchantment or maturation uh... depending upon how you
want think about it
with some online activity of brings us to tonight's uh... question which i
think is
really an interesting and version one mime-version issuer really good i think
it really is a question about digital community formation
i'm gonna do administered the and the table and introduce the panelists and
then peninsula back
and uh... each each the council says something about other car work uh... and
uh... been we'll start with a couple of questions on them
i guess maybe i'll ask the first one but very quick story
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uh... okeke
so too extreme measures we have gail drake's uh...
galas interdisciplinary scholar in history in american studies
focusing on the cultural implications of intellectual property law
and african-american historical memory
she previously served as a consultant the social justice beloved of beat
portfolio at the ford foundation
and as the program officer
the out front
at funding to change
an activist advised fund
which supported ldv cheeky livelihood social justice organizing efforts
next to her
we have whitney cooper
uh... britney's in actresses to professor of women's and gender studies
an afrikaner studies at rutgers university
she's co-founder of in blogger for the compliments collective
and that work on her first book project race women gender in the making of a
black public intellectual tradition
eighteen thirty-one to present
next to britain and we have courtney eat martin resulting wondered which is a
correct right she is an author blogger in speaker for most recent book project
we birthed survival and the strength of the human spirit
from an eleven survivors was published last fall she's editor of the merits as
a feminist in dot com
founding director of solutions journalism at work
partner clinton martin media
a social media strategy front as currently collaborating with bcr w
on a project to further the sustainability an impact online feminism
mexico resort nina jarman
she's a scholar instructor blogger uh... new model minority dot com
and a curator of digital black reminiscence
she's kind of person a doctoral degree twin studies
at the university of maryland
her research interests are when such a role in pop culture and retention of
black women
within stand careers
and uh...
next to me is dandy coasting visitor analysts and that's a education politics
women's issues
cities and public health
she's also schwartz though at the new image american foundation upper from
fellow at the new mission is to
she's at work on a book about the political history of american public
school teaching
was previously an associate editor of the dvds
and the american prospect
are these are our panelists on and that this will just go to you guillotine
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i now live this kind of uh... concerned have someone who is engaged in academic
work i think that the one thing it is important
um...
i guess i'll just wanna say something that's
i don't think of the controversial
but i think it's really important
um... which is the important als
importance uh... really bringing a feminist analysis to the entire picture
visual community
so that as they say that i'm really hoping in general i mean this
conversation we cannot only talk about
the possibility that creating feminist community online using the tools at
insights of feminism of critical race theory
to bring that to bear on the way we think about discipline in formation more
generally
um...
sitting on your mind it
and i think we're going to help we talk about twitter date for the who agree
with that
um...
reform-minded not everyone is talking about the children and you talking about
digital on communities
are thinking in a way that if they using that lands and it really does make a a
significant difference
on this decision the meeting about my work phone
and something that is conversation
perpetrated maybe think about
i would show up film to my students i lied
should mention in that
bio that i also
uh... massage it back remember an advisor
antique out of school than usual a study at new york university
so im downtown teaching one class is that one of the
films that using said instances called copyright criminals
too
and at the moment in this film is very difficult and complicated for me
in which uh...
musician
who's really well known for its um... remixes sampling
he's talking about his relationship to the con
to the things that uh... product he uses to create art
and he said all of them belong to me
all of them are in my bands john coltrane he's and i think dean brown
he's in mind
because this kind of possessing sense of lake all the fruits of the fact they
were with his playground to do with what what he wanted
and you were that that kind of a larger context of what that meant
uh... so i think that as in the discussion in intellectual property law
at marginally into a two sampling
and i think especially in regards to this uh... question additional community
formation
uh... leaking between the it seemed like
those who came into the conversation with the understanding have questioned
the power
and difference an authority invoice
tended to have a very different opinion about whether or not that conversation
with important for went out of the field
so i just wanna say just think about that those tools and insight to bring
justice in this and as people who are thinking critically about race
uh...
relate to all aspects of the conversation and not just the ones that
we specifically label as feminists
yuki bri
wanna say thank you to the barnard center for research on women injuries
for having me here
so a lot of the work that i do relieve comes from questions about
the ways that black women
worked as a knowledge producers and the way is that
that knowledge transforms public space
so when black owner president space it's this this whole quotation it's a famous
park in this quotation
remain until you cooper when and where i answer
and apply the disputed dignity of my one of the now
uh... suing or special patronage then and there
the whole reason interest with me
so that quote rings in my ears regularly in part because it's one of the starting
points for a book that i'm writing
but also
is i think it wants the ways in which
black women and women of color
in public space
doesn't merely suggested near to the conclusion but it's also literally about
transforming the logic front house faces
can operate
so i'm interested in
what happens when women of color coming to a space
and start sharing ideas and claimed agency to also produce knowledge on
equal footing in that space
and one of the things that
this raises for me pretty lean might again which again i think we will all be
talking about is
are not so much interested
just in
a concept of the public
but any notion of publix
this idea about community cool our our public skyping gets
multiple i think it's very able
uh... and i think they were speaking to different groups at different moments
and finally
uh... one of the things that my work which can really begins in the eighteen
hundreds dozens works with this concept of rhetorical community
so one of the things that argued is that
overtime black women always created really bridge which warble communities
where they talk to each other via letters b_ of the books that they were
at the speeches that they gave
they found a way to be in community and share ideas
even if it was a outside a formal channels
so now they were in the agent here of digital community i think that black
women and women of color are
using similar strategies but in a really different medium
and i'm interested in
how this milton berle howard's both historically continuous and now it's
different
uh... so it's so this sort of moved from rhetorical community which was
sustaining
to accommodate your community
uh... or some of the questions that anthony
the work i do with the way we think about
blogging at the clintons like
asset come i think stick and i'm katherine mckinnon everyone
accident research on and then also say how hot and an espionage
of human beings and all of our people admire online and some of whom i've
never met on land so that's exciting and
cell
i guess i'll just say that i think for me
age and most of my online tennis experiences through the context of
feminists saying i'm also journalists i write a lot online but that's kind of a
whole nother animal to me and that in this context through feminist thing i
really think for me it's been
in this idea several learning community and i think laying off a little but
britain was saying in elaine can community there are multiple kind of
labor right there's a labor of teaching
and and there's also the labor of learning and at some of my most
difficult moments in digital community
at tennis saying and sort of independence by mister has been at the
moment i have had to learn and public which i think is a really interesting
practices and one that
privileged women like myself in particular
and have a lot of trouble with and need to be marking time to go around and so
and whether i was making ablest comments or writing something about how something
i'd written came off in terms of my economic says economic class
it was really transformative for me it was really
painful sometimes and and i had to do a lot of work randy personalizing and and
you know walk around the block and taking a deep breath and getting back to
the computer and figuring out how to be accountable on how to learn
that that has been a huge growth experience for me and i think maybe a
better person
deafening at a smarter
and i think more accountable an activist and
intellectual and all those things and if i may i just feel like we're still
learning how to deal in the feminist lightest a i still feel like
young women that i meant to are critically a privilege to come into the
space are still struggling with what it means to try to be accountable
and that's not something unique to the times by the three i think that's unique
to win i think that's the second studies e seven college classrooms they see it
all over
that just kind of throw that out as a work in progress and i think
and dollar-billion gauged in and have not always done well that was really
important
and i also
just wanted to say thing about labor of teaching peace because i think
part of what i'm engaged and now it's my partner vanessa is tryin banners have
recently ministry think through how to make the families by mister more
sustainable
because on this basic level you have all of these incredible
activist intellectual folks doing unpaid labor and lightly and paid union theirs
perks and then pan am largely unpaid and it's this huge service and it's
incredibly important part of the feminist movement now and yet there's no
sustainability to at whatsoever it's
people are burning out all over the place where people are bringing out our
no surprise surprise the police privileged
amateur areas that the range of places you here and so
the labor of teaching online and thinking a lot about these days in
trying to figure out how do we create some sort of model by which people can
access support
and had also you know there's a labor of teaching
privileged folksy jazzy lynching to spread the beauty of the internet is
we've been able to lake recruit people into feminism who had never otherwise
stumbled into a women's studies classroom
but they shot with a lot of misconceptions and ignorance in
confusion so we always had this month a feminist in comment section where people
it's a like wife nepalese brutality from this issue and someone has to go that
explains that person like that sits on this issue which is important but it's
not stating so
you know that question of ads
new pacifist energy out there to constantly explain
different things even as
you know my goal is always to get those one oh one people because i know that's
i'll support change happens so
served as our online work in progress dot
excited to discuss tomorrow
also want to say thank you to bonus into for research on women for keeping all of
us the space
to discuss these very interesting ideas around digital feminist communities
with regard to my homework
achchi too
women's studies at four minutes and to brew kept
and looking advocacy tations of black women reflecting that no one
in rap music videos
itself for the most part focused on uh... black women *** pop culture
well
now i'm moving into looking uh...
what are the ways in which
uh...
internet social media spaces may or may not look different
if there were more black women computer scientists so not only
m and i thinking about the trial by
inkatha folks because it's internet
as people who are aren't uh...
sort of using the spaces to connect
but i'm thinking in terms of the political economy peeps
which is
who policy startups
who with a lot to be any spaces
and would take a look differently probably talk about different things
on if they were being creative
the black women in particular
also defined a think tank in and ninety-two face if anything in them
because they've recently done some are great mostly about public education and
in particular computer scientist occasion and programming education is
not reaching
girls of all races and that's not
regions dunes of time so that something really interested in
beginning with younger children as well
uh... i guess i'll just say right now is that over the past seven years since i
graduated from college my career has moved from writing primarily for a
progressive explicitly
progressive or liberal publications like the american prospect in the nation to
writing more frequently in my mainstream faces like the atlantic and straight
as an editor at the daily beast which is now the daily beast newsweek
um... so i have some experience with started pitching
ideas about progressive politics uh... in does
more familiar spaces and then also in space says that friends' houses
non-ideological
uh... it's an interesting suny
and to see how i feel like my own work is both strengthened and sometimes also
compromised by having to
make that transition i think there's a lot of president clinton i'm happy to
talk more about that in fact interest people turning into an anti
um... i really totally identify reflect quickness saying about the learning
process
i think in journalism we're moving to a model where really we shell our work
again and i think about analogy from when you're doing a math problem and
you're carrying the numbers and showing
this tax o
bites reading and i have a lot going on
doing shorter form versions of what might eventually be stayin eight
thousand way
feature story in the atlantic your able to start a pick up a lot of feedback
along the way system so sometime the feedback i've picked up for a fact
i'm and i think on interest or a as the person i am ask what you think that
sometimes that something so simple as i've missed something
really important about a topic someone impregnation beating expected a having
known about the out-and-out hands
actually finance process improvement work so much that now that i'm writing a
book that i had two years to work on
i'm actually struggling with not having great however many more because
it's such a long process and i've been warned
that a shift like that too much of it out there before the book's publication
and i'm actually wondering are they refuge plaza request
can in this part that i'm not going to know about it so
i think a lot of time just learning in public
affect can be really paying five actually become totally addicted to it
and uh... pollen i think it's a good thing
they kill so much and uh... i'm just gonna throw question out there and
everyone will figure another
and who and we will be the one answer every one of them
didn't want to decide who talks
i left that that somehow fundamentally wrong are so i'm just understand ask the
question based on which is another drawing from some the questions that
were opposed rom online
unlimited students some of the issues that product mister recap quickly
empresa preferred two things here
uh... that uh... underpin the seizure of community are power authority
uh... for some property
uh... rhetoric roar frederick and and rhetorical communities of space the
organization logistics and space former considerations ation
and gender in space uh... questions about labor paid a non-paid um...
for brought in terms of
the production of actual internet spaces and communities but also
uh... terms of the river of of educating huh
pearson ourselves
this issue of learning i think is through central on too
speaking about community because of possible suggest the community is not
only extrinsic but but intrusive
and very important ways and then in fact uh...
consciousness are subject to recall which you
is communitarian and character and perhaps more so
uh... within a digital
context
the glossary should put a call communists is ki
are memorable
question of
work kinds of structural arm logics gendered and rates are inclusive in the
machines that we use
uh... seems to me to be a fundamental question
or moment actually had to get kind of disentangle
the various racism some sexism switch on
condemned to the with functioning of the sheen's if they could submit we're
beginning to work on
but there's a tremendous amount to be done
also this issue of writing right
withers journalism or
writing any kind of all touch was issued or life seems to me to be
the fundamental
piece of this as well
so uh... my question uh... after all this cinema complex toughest comments
simple in some ways but i think it will take us
pursue this i hope you will
i would ask you to uh... reflecting on what these community now i mean is
community uh...
desert argue definition and has its roots on
uh... signify with some its other uh... boards or closer to it may come
communion for example
or enough of the brother cyclical on and uh...
then if u my woman
uh... say something about
how you think of a community
then perhaps you could uh... developer your thoughts on
with in the following way
uh... how does one build community and may be wider swindle community
inference that the cfc
the one thing that i can say that that it's a tough question
uh...
but i think for us it was something really basic which is recognition
so
uh...
was their spears a new book out called sister citizen received argues that
recognition is really
funded a fundamental aspect of
uh... how we understand ourselves working in a body politic so we don't
just want to participate we want people to recognize our community
and so i remember so it's that moment when you
redouble our host and someone gets sick the thing that you need them to get
whatever it is
you read it and all of a sudden their space for who you are how you move to
the world
there's a fair expected that you've always had a deep thought
finally somebody said it
you know i i didn't realize i was the only one who bought this player had this
impression
and we first started writing to confirm this collective that is what the the
nature of the comments that we got your
women coming to us and saying thank you
you know we're so happy that someone named this perspective or
you know for instance that
you can go to the clothing decline driving my contract and still be
offended this
which is it was sort of the tenor and is the tenor of the kind of things that we
do
and so i think that whatever we decide word the community is
that when people
feel recognized
they feel like you c_n_n_ and it's really interesting and virtual terms
to talk about seeing people but i think particularly for black women feel
invisible often and i think any other marginalized and that feels that some
critical aspect of the identity is invisible
to be seen
is like a critical prerequisite to commune
with thoughts
versus pat and i think
i think the love that
the question of community this weekend
there was in private conference that was talking about
civic engagement and marriage occasion kind of bringing together can face and
community community
uh... what exactly are meant
and part of what who is talking about that space with have historical
associate article perspectives on
community select became a neighborhood at the police
and community and experience
so
the question is being
the ways in which
digital formations is coming online sites can create
a space in which certain experience happens and i think that uh... question
for
in one of the challenges we face in terms of this idea kids of community
is
thinking about experience is something
impart happens
an online space
and the thinking about how that translates
too
khanum offline
spaces in back-and-forth in
i think is too much as i do think if you build it they will come have a website
and there but a lot of website system language there's not committee
um... have many major connected with most within those made with a lot of
passion online i think
a lot more tension
needs to be focused time not just the code that the community aspect reading
out what uh... that looks like and i think a significant part of the is
about
cleaning this site pain online site is part of a larger
in a larger context
and that's their website as part of a larger when
welcomed for
a larger web of objects and texts and species and interactions
i think a lot of time that's what's missing guide to the site in
you know you figure out how would i made a comment section that's the yet tactic
but what about the relationship between sides
and what about you know the way the which we make those connections there
either are bored or grow online have of life
tonight and one thing that i think that uh...
the other thing about the creek that was collected that i think matters that
resonates with people in terms of communities that were community of
writers
so when we came together they were like for these crops without
props or go
and what what you know
so they they knew that there was like a core that was doing and i think that
would mean people so we get out these requests and people to be part of the
court
uh... and one of the things that we've said
you know is that
pretty early in light of some of the things courtney mentioned about
sustainability the crew is a sort of fixed group of people
that we take it we take care of each other you know but i think that that
models for other folks
so i think it's very attractive to people that there is a group of us that
there's not just one
so for some reason i think that part of the reason we were able to build
communities because we already built
community
with each other
and then it showed up in the way that we blew
aren't talked about things and it was the the
which feminists saying
also that we're community a friend
s offline
but also interestingly we started the community confuse me communi articles so
that's a place that anyone can post
answers cut the home page in the community call the community safer this
question is really interesting and
it's been
really moving to see that kind of material people put their hands
and to know that for so many people there is this deep yearning for a crew
and even if we can cohesive lee offer them the criminalists 'cause we can only
handle so many relationships that length of my courtney's coordinating a month we
can offer that platform place where people have some sense of
what's expected and that's based and they can participate and
and we've had a lot of people who've written hair and dot
immediate calls in
created different actions online like into really happen for that an empirical
way setting a funny things
formats products at financing in terms of
creating some
secondary space where people can participate even if they're not
regular editors and walkers which is takes a tremendous
amount of energy
and anyone interested as well outside of the feminists were all but one of the
coolest online trainees i've seen
but i read about and is called the harry potter alliance and it's a little
hancock and all over the world you active in online and have created these
amazing communities and now they're sort of apply
what's going on
in the real world it seems in the book and taking action collectively together
and i am bring that up because i was so impressed with their capacity to bridge
the voice you know recognition piece that brings on mental action piece
because i think
that's firm
he won in that learning curves and so on is like how do we really create action
and
sake i didn't set for their highly reaction i think maybe that's not just
reacting against teens against rush limbaugh against
you know come in against against against that for vision of the kind of world we
all wanna live in thinking we do that
in police online a lot but in action it sort of hard to know
they got access
curative two plus one to the head pattern lake
that's really they're really amazing k except me
what and when are we sending something that they've been complicating
was ok said their in
celebration
imaginary character ok add to that that number one frankly our alliance in the
world is imaginary character
and they come together and that you know it consultant at the foreign governments
to it because one i think that uh... happen
this summer
they were working together to do emily flyers and so that the release of the
hunger games
the hunger games fictional book
about you know this this topic reality in which teenagers are killing each
other emailing service of the state
they come together and talk about real life hunger like at the that the
screenings and what would be interesting in that situation is that they were told
they couldn't do that they couldn't do flyers on behalf of ox and trying to end
hunger
because it was messing with the branding that you know that hunger gain the
merrimack had a certain thing they were trying to do
and by the time that the uh...
the find out how to be a ochs fan and we can help our alliance with not part of
that
uh... but not animated yet so i think that is actually my article that make
that happen split actually connect awesome because
excuse me out
landscape and
fantasies and assess letter to the harry potter alliance and said you have to
stop
this right away and they accent
and character takes a nap
toget has risen
and so i think contacted them like twelve hours later and said in fact we
reset
this season just as well
so you have to work with you and future
millions
move and it's like an amazing reversal of power ad
which is kinda what i mean like what is the family's version of balik i wanna
make lions defense so i don't know
holiday on
the
green
and alone at the moment i was excited about it and if that were petition
banana ice
passing on patches
harry potter says people like that look them up and see what they're doing that
reflections and community formation
i think that uh...
the first thing that comes to mind
is accommodate someone left on my block
maybe a month or so ago
is she essentially saying that um...
she had a responded because she
couldn't get her ideas together but she didn't want me to think that because she
hadn't responded it didn't mean that she doesn't thinking about it
anthony cordesman to you about that
is that advance something that clearly resonated with her and that she dislikes
struggling but the internally any peace we came back and we had a conversation
about it
sold
with regard to community
ye i think oftentimes about how transformative it can be
right
n_w_ which you write something if someone sitting on my bed homer brightly
had no idea what happened to my panic here
you have
reno idea
but you still do anyways right so that's right
selectors
there's this potential there that you don't know including julie indeed even
if you have a impact on people sometimes they don't even feel
seldes
this notion of faith i think that's under
event and on
one of the ways i think about community at house different publication daylight
there comment section nan bad notice
a real difference in terms of the potty anti-lock unlevel at fidelity
drains publication it ambassador i write for
and i also have to make their i've been act
maintaining my own personal five which has its own communities that gay bath
and sex i've also had experience of building
that happens i know it's it's very active comment moderation and also just
to be in your own comment section and respond
and that something i do it like when i write firstly they actually have a very
simple comments
and uh... pretty good job moderating at you have to happen to kate
with some other start-up
phase perpetrator you have to show the air person i'm sorry which has its ups
and downs ups and downs that
i'm when i go into the confessions and respond to critique that my work or
questions about me where i've noticed that the commenters all of us that
unlike their time just becomes a nicer and warmer and they're really surprised
that the writer of the articles there
interacting with them so i did
promised myself to to beat more a part of those community and i think a in
journalism over the last
ten fifteen years it's been a really big shifts
for journalists to feel that they have to be constantly receiving feedback
american before
first online
there could be letter so that other but that number of people actually take the
trouble to do that
would be pretty fine and now even in a small publication
that gets very few readers the wealthy feedback
care works i think
i think it's a good thing but
it's a chef
different publications have
embraces or recess today but i think and and that's an interesting for me
this is the discussion
uncivil deliver what you are staying home
and uh... amor amor trask mcpherson undone for discipline rid ourselves of
questions of our panelists
the number
the city recognition which
manager talking about a or the fact that someone to the time to write to you and
say well i'm still thinking about this
reminds us of the fact that
doesn't communities actually use of this exists out there that are versus for
about something that's right and our and then you go finds actually praxis return
communities are organizing made in the whole process of making
which is to be to be absolutely central to uh... world and or or or interested
in
but there's also the car difficult burden returns say
uh... tissues sinister side
uh... to this practice which has to do with them
the expropriation of these practices
practices right into on the one hand and uh... firms is a couple of course is
arab screenwriter and the use of this book and twitter
now corners platforms for for uh...
organizing uh... some people to emphasize that more some people say well
it's been a bit more critical
but they're really larger
the function of the internet
but what if your position on that there's also
this our our side which has to do with them monetization
right and at which is
are in some people's do uh... margaret i suppose
a kind of expropriation
uh... in which uh...
you have all of these desires for uh...
progressive utopian transformation
of literary generally working against there
uh... kind of um...
history of uh...
of violence and oppression which are has so
from structured
the present
uh...
and yet at the same time there's this presence of from
the social factors repose for just uh... moments
in which all of these um... activities which are motors and
internal and passion
and powerful are also building structures which or alien an alienated
instruments
so internal feud if you think about that and then
but im punchy do but as one of put that out there for for your comments
in instances about it
we talked about the things that i think about it
so and anything at all
sis wear the crown for miss collective uh... had to keep up with some wanted a
how dependent on the blog town i wrote a product to review i'm for
uh... like a body better and that was that started by joe morgan is
when the founders of his optimism so there's would be no point in this
collective without joan morgan and her work
and this commenter came over and started talking rose sideways to me about how
we should be
you know is this the way did you see as he is going our doing product
endorsements man
and i was in a meeting
and i was the bank
i'm doing this i mean i think they got it
you know i was ready to just head over like
at insult their couple things of that
past it was
you know i did hear more about my home and i was like
work we'll bomb that most of what we would be a source of credible journalism
so one of the things that i've been thinking about insight where blog walks
for a particular community were not newspaper but that had to be clear five
but then i also so there isn't that right which is what expectations do
people have been in the community
about the kind of context you're trying to provide
like don't we plan swing of things i didn't he was one did what we do we do
for free
no one gave us to do any of the so we can do whatever we will be
because of the girls
you know and so i had to sort of have at this moment like that these people in
your community they agreed you have to be talking to both of them
but sometimes i would think that accountability would be reciprocated in
that when you are the beneficiaries of lots and lots of people's free labor
sometimes folks forget people behind the content
and so we believe that you know it's all i'm always in people
netted
on the blog that's one of the things i do a spring tactic and that's fine
one of the things that we talk a lot about is
not just to the sustainability of that teaching labor
or the same to you teach me but the emotionally
and it's
sector
yet it's
and it's even
or you know and then it's exacerbated by the fact that
did more women of color all of us at the blogger women of color we have one man
of color blue blocks for us
and so-called than expected doubling uh... or in multiple ways uh... and sell
and and and then the other thing is not even just what it's like a racial issue
where people want to do with these our person of color
but also other people of color come
and they need to work too
they needed to do so much emotional labor prevent around recognition
and so there was this one suddenly people might ask
is it like trawlers comments it's about i'm so disappointed
because you big hugs you know
sts you know live up to my standards om
of the comic con two at interested in producing
and sell so they're all these issues about emotionally more unpaid leader
you know and
and ended last and i say about it is this other point you make courtney about
not wanting to be reacted so one of the things that we found at the csc is that
people are that we're going to fight off our clothes excuse the language but
that's that's they like they like it when we're broke route
and angry
all
but then i think about like
i'm an overweight blackmun
right so they're you know their are cannot ako that because that's part of
what it means to be in communities
but we think about what it means to be academics which is a hostile space for
black women
uh... to do business work does that go way up to a black man
i sometimes does it really does not so we're already doing that kind of work
then we're trying to take care of ourselves itself but i don't need to do
is be stressed and have the cortisol levels running rampant all the time
in a body that you know i'm trying to work to make as healthy as i possibly
can
right and that's the sort of physical labor that folks are also common bill
in our lives and we don't have a way to think about it
uh... any
so one of the things that we talked about this yet the csc one of the
changes
doesn't want to be less reactive
because it's not helping and folks who want to come to the police we get email
did deje gpc and someone said the same opera
k
we want to be less reactive didn't wanna put forward affirmative constant about
the kind of where we want to create and not just about people who are not doing
this stuff that we think they ought to be doing
and that's hard if you feel like you're community comes to you because what they
want you to do is to be a mostly but they don't have the platform ardently
studi
that's a i think this is a important what you thought about being in meeting
and getting angry commentary mouth and feeling the need to get
and just noticed that i a m
when i went on vacation for attending ananta clean
profile except as to how much to ask that expected and actually about
technically
definite
and and thanking planning printing secure that if you become very
attractive and i
work is to have times where you're not combine
an anti-inflammatory
back instead of
show you out
an especially because weavers and paid for
not wild
another thing i just wanted to mention about the waiver aspect of this is
and no you know about
mail
bloggers are writers have other people that write under their names
and i know that this is not
feedback actors
for email
writers
uh... and i just i think that's really interesting there's about a lot of
really famous
mala writers to have apartments
blacks to actually they're actually four or five people
who are
some inference printf timber
it's been interesting to me as i think about how much time do i have for longer
farm
type of writing and haven't had time that
with an accent on hasn't faded background can reap the reactive
manipulating needs to be reacting that
and anti-nafta hurricane center
control and
uh...
tatyana feel fully engaged in what i'm doing in these different genres etc
experimenting
i feel comfortable
wet that right
it's a different bargain for everything
in using a bath and i think that actually just thinking about
that we haven't acted generational issues around topic and
all right thanks a lot older feminist not recognizing best real labor and i
think that's starting to change it richard sipping that like this whole
body israel you know
young feminist wasting our time type max exciter obviously perceptions
but also interestingly
part of the way i have
p from my ipod back to you in
socially consulting and goes trading
goes straight in
pieces for people that like for example of the ia ser with them it's like a
feminist community like
so-and-so either stop publish and secretly irobot an adamant
it sides intending like like explains that that's cold cuz i indirect method
at the same tax cuts that sort of waste and its is within the family of three of
them and they're like
you know most older feminist who
have those traders i have been an hanging out there right now but like
bath
and i just think that interesting think about
you know i don't think they are a lot of women bloggers bogus traders but i do
think a lot of the most prominent feminist public intellectuals
administrators and no one really talk
this is really interesting because of the ways in which that masks
comes from labor
is being produced in reproduced in this idea of social capital
com
that's not what i plan on talking about right
contactus and it's a market economy
uh... intel intergenerational keys that applies to me
out conversations with this
satisfactory story else apart
and who have worked with
and i'm talking to her because
out what to talk about digital citizens
but i was bill cleared and that asst
this is the thing that makes me happy
and i'm scared to death act read into the more formal academic spaces i'm not
gonna lie chemo
konoha
care
receive drive around very powerful
she said well on uh...
i want you to think very carefully about whether or not want to do this
i think that it's a excellent topic prosecco went into this
this is an excellent topic because this dynamic clearly infested
uh... issue also set that it's intimate it's legitimate if i choose not to
but she doesn't want me did not choose to do it
itself right now working through elected
because it's something that hold so dear
and
geog me you know i like whatever kind of script we thought we had math is
offering
ecommerce
is a summit in tuesday i think to even saying i think that
with making the in individual questioning reference to mind diving and
i think that
what i'm thinking about it how notions of value change and kind of a creek
reaching a production of different kind of value which is not always about money
tho comeback this idea personal branding and identity as property indicated
because right in here for a candidate and eighty s transferable property
vincent lane in my class where
you know they kinda come and wanting to talk about copyright nineteen kind of
some of them in there because they were really raises some of the medevac other
artistic protect myself
you know but then the conversation necessarily chefs
to what is the nature of authorship with the nation nature of ownership of these
and a final questions and then by the time that i want to talk about slavery
where we found out that what we can't really talk about the major
intellectual property or property identities property or twitter
we can talk about their without leaving out really
come again
let's go
whose idea this kind of
i'd indeed probably think it's really important
and at the personally fermin
also
and spread of maybe intergenerational as well
but when i was kind of asking around like *** i wanna make this move in
the social media what
that what what about look like what concerns i have a asking around
a lot of it came down to this idea
needing to narrow myself down into uh...
identity delete delete identifiable
like you have to be
about being
this he had not been you know what you do your black feminist or your this
weird that guy i'd be clear encana blah blah everything up and bought a
particularly branding and push forward even a move
and
you know then the question of liquor unanimous or username and what that
controlling ise stacked on the ended up having a certain resistance
to participating in social media
because those emilie jeff's another space where i could bring the fullness
of myself they can so many other spaces too much of the issue too much of that
now i have to come on here you
mullins follow could you don't hear much meet some calc classes that i don't add
up too much about let me know that i had that day and it's like
i'm not here for another five days where i can bring the phones that way
so the question is and then also we didn't even talk about and i don't know
that we need to do it
just to say that we talked about a lot of really particularly see in safer
beautiful spaces that these uh... women have helped create online and
you know that's not true
for of a species immunize com sections
that make my laptop sphere someplace
at the back away from an act of god to make contact
packed with myself i don't look at the time section on on that story because
you know what it's going to see
and so vic
it's a complicated it's a complicated idea and if i d o identities property
how do we have been married seven make yourself smaller in something as large
as the world wide web
is
and anything instead
medium
is desert
grim
custom comments on my mirror most people regarded server
new uh... say doctor comment or two left the house questions does that work
jalali
now that sometimes at
what do you think
were the primary actionable
lessons
from the racial fallout of the slot blot
came here to see because that was a
live incident that had a lot of discussion amor precautions and
conversations that have been fruitful collapsed at that
online
uh... especially as we talk about trying to develop spaces with all the different
things that you've all brought up about napping
napping in the we women of multiple narratives and having to bring yourself
in each yourself
the militant that mean for trying to create a digital communion line where
bentley enough then his across difference can access hatfield spaces to
have difficult conversations
types of fear kit
dot of light even dot com
sophia the water resumes that prompted this extraordinaire
work in the plot
you know what docs once a walker complicated uh...
so let's say a couple things that thing that it probably talking
is the potential of the space so the most powerful moments for me
the cfc came out
and said
we're not attending this uh... where you know
we don't know that this is going to be useful for black women
uh... in general
um... and
organizes a slow waltz came to the comments section
and some
talked sideways but most earnestly engaged in really sought to listen
and use it to transform the kind of work that they did
and the kate this year we got an invitation to come and speak it somewhat
d_c_ now
we decided not to go
uh... because we just
didn't work
we didn't want the formal association
which is a tough thing
and so here's the thing that salt white light is the potential for engagement
and it made me know
that sometimes it's hard great because i do think that might fit in this
on trial
i do think that they are trying and i saw that
i think v
my critique one of the things that matter to me in the critique those that
i felt that mosque is
one and i wanted to push was that notion
it may be what analyst
political organize it looks like now is that we have the tools to say
it's what is used against a community of women in this way even if they're white
women they have the right to organize around that usage
and that's a fitness issue that we can be is that what they're doing with is
longhand
it's connected to the struggles like the leasing
which then affects communities of color
to say that
and didn't think in
and you know endeavor differences of opinion to say that day at the sea of
seaweed innocently think lacking religion
dubious so a slight performance
was not to say that we didn't think that there was a and issues
he deserves to be addressed and one of the things i felt like was that we
the critiques happen
we got to salute everyone got disillusioned it stopped
and that wasn't that thing that we wanted to have happened
we want to do it
you know we thought
more sophisticated enough now
that we can and that can explain it
and and this because this question of virtual reality vs political reality all
that happens on social media production annexation and expansion
we do it so quickly
but in real life we can't seem to figure it out and i felt like that wasn't
unfortunate
side effects
you know so the question then became
do you not make the critique because you believe in the movement like apple even
the movement that is that the toronto police officer that is ridiculous i
would think that makes the world safer for women
but at the same time admitted white women to understand that day
dressing up like a *** walking down the street
was going to be qualitatively different from somebody like me dressing up
and doing that
uh...
at least and what into that understanding deeply you know
contributed to the
loss of momentum behind movement that i think is really important
baking so much for this day is
a million interesting things
that i'm hearing but i was but you know you thinking about the idea of uh...
having uh...
not being able to be like you're fully express self
online and it social media
uh... blog particularly
because knowing like okay these comments are gonna come any and all sorts of ways
that are some in some ways very legitimate and in other ways
completely
uh... relevant and just
attacking
and also to thinking about it may be picking up the idea is something i'm
thinking about what i have been
thinking about overtime as like
you know depending on what you do for a living
do you you know writing under your full name writing under a pseudonym you know
what what are the different kinds of new ways in which we move in the worlds of
like for me i_d_ communications work by also the burlesque
do these two things how they go to work together or against me
how do i write online you know thinking about these things and i think that this
is becoming more but the issue for people across the board not necessarily
uh... you know it's cut-and-dried bite
how much of it is like i can't put out my personal thoughts police experiences
because it may affect my livelihood more i can't speak about x_y_ and z_ on
twitter
i'll have to accounts and then what is that to you for your branding what is
that you for your voice and then what is that actually do for
community building
because again it's like you're having to pull back
and you're not really
able to express yourself in a way that's
may be ideal in terms of
uh... community building that authenticity the different kinds of you
put it that you want to put out because it's always fearful like well this can
affect my bottom line if i need to get paid or not you know so i'd love to hear
your thoughts on that
and what kind of evolution
you've got to run a or you know
for for everyone in the room if that's something that's coming up particularly
you know students are not a student anymore uh... so it's you know different
space but i'd love to hear
thoughts about that
i think rang and as c_n_n_ canning a lot of stands for people who feel that they
want to be participants
in digital communities around issues they care about the first time in
finance not benefit
with their detente or some other person and that they have that they have to
maintain for their financial likelihood
or for whatever else
uh... i think
i've always been lucky enough to have
full-time writing jobs that have
allowed me to make my living as a writer
i think for me on
there's one issue that so emotional rule that i've had to go in and out of the
conversation which is the issue of israel palestine
after many years i never
well publicly about it because mind feelings about it where in such
contrasts to how i was raised and
some of the belief that my family man
and then um...
uh... in two thousand six
there is just a bunch of political going to happen that year i really feel like i
can
stay silent
on any more info started buying more
critically about being a young american judith there is no longer considers
myself as i noticed
and what that means
i_b_m_ the emotional hindsight you gave a sell out and talk about
and had been phase of the public you google me
and utilities rail you could keep them a bit of a friend
dot the conversation that i've gone in and out of
over the past six years because every time i get into it
is so emotionally exhausting in my personal real world
on the ground life
premiums joking referring like i don't know online first on the ground
amid difficult the pendant also difficult online
but paradoxically thumb some of the basking in the building i have done
online has then the times that i've overcoming fears and have friend
publicly about israel
because when
for example anywhere in article about some of the message is that you got
typically american jewish education in hebrew schools and think i've about
as ellen how they they contract other social justice teaching that that yours
children are typically both you and how this leaves a lot of jewish children to
grow up with a very kind of born
fraught debate on ninety nine wrote about that
and that was probably the
the single thing ever over i got the most
just enough simi
from people saying that they were caught somebody headset that
i think that they're saying sumtimes reli me going in and out
of the debate lou can't
that could really important part of myself but it's not always a program
called that i wanna be public with i could be public with that
naming one man from the v_ chip
and then after a third of retreat on it because it's just too difficult to make
that go back to it that i was saying before about often time an online
e and them
one of the things that happens uh...
cell i've heard about
sex are on the blog this summer
right about sex and relationships
instantly
it was them
it was world painful i don't know that i fully recovered from that exchange any
brought up lots of questions about
the pablo
uh... because when i first started reading is protesting the one you will
have a
in some ways it sort of became more expedient because i do want to do more
public work in my career
seem hold some of that
pieces that i was writing suddenly the choice to do it
the here back from you the challenge became
that's
part of what i wanted to maine and choosing the right about sex as a black
woman in a black the myspace
is that
black women struggle to find sex positive
spaces for expression so somebody as the polls network having sex that we like it
you know all of those things right and have to be a part of a black feminists
epic
but
there was a real speed price to pay for that you know whatever you do that in
your visible in so one of the things i think before in some of the rest of the
remaining is also a key member of the csc and so
when
this happened to me no breaks
more eloquently i mean unsightly about sex and politics and and all of it than
i do uh... and
cell
you know seeking love me and said you know i'd option like mine when this goes
down the concert i got to so that was opposed that what we need to be terribly
uh... base avocado greatest octane
you know anyways
and and a lot of that had to do with like the inability to see black women as
*** agency that were predators which is the *** and subscribe to my into
space
didn't go well with our readers
uh...
and what happens in a moment when there things that are true for you you might
produce community the community is pushing back against you
and you say this is not true that now wants to watch not backing off of it
even if it cost some readers
you know i'm not going to do it um...
what does that look like and what does it mean to to do that
cell-cell in some ways i'm kind of him being a space now somewhat upset with i
you know i've done it gets there
but i have not
out right now
huh
let's hear execute that's about as close to
body politic about paul that i'm gonna try to bad anymore like at least for a
while
and so i think it's important to say that
this thing about having a fully be yourself israel
emmett it manifests in a different way depending on your position out and and
so
tent you know
to write as a you know as a black woman about a sort of pro six consciousness
from within his perspective is not as easy as one might think
this must come with all these options about who you should be
and who they want you to be and what your interaction should look like and
frankly a lot of times it's too because folks have been done there own emotional
labour
and then they'd and then they put their stuff on you
and saw what you have it's like you know i was like
you know you eva dot you that their pets plus
communicate
i'm also gonna tell you what i have a whole range of selfish act isn't going
to be okay
but it end of the day we do this work because we wanted to because the
stanley life-sustaining and for me
and sold
winik isn't that
kidney sort of honestly admit that i was always manage that world i don't always
know with students on reinvested in the work
i've been taking in bed with me it does bother me
it has made me crack you know and and i think we have to be able to say and did
not accept early in their people behind the words their people behind *** and
and figuring out how honored that has been a real time
and we have a question for this one
very quickly
where billy in violated away
uh... insists that i have so much respect
for people
what cable to move closer
it's not a completely witnesses mission accomplished their but absolute respect
to the people and see
integers bases who clearly are doing that were covering all who they are and
that's very parenting very inspiring me personally
just following up on the question
that idea different jobs indifferent roles and how that affects and i think
that's definitely rio again when i was like asking around in this feels like
what subsequent nineteenth century was going to look like and told me he
mentioned like affidavit models on twitter that you do this person that
person that person
there are more easily
people died this week we're going to be talking next week using often they are
and i am name
somebody but i will call the respectability around that around the
compound one is supposed to
compartments of when i got to look at him like i worked so hard to be able to
come this far in quite a lot but i like the jacket a lot of it
meant that i think that the and you about
in regards to within
wild
public nature kind of like the wide open spaces e social media represents
awesome in a lot of ways
i am
by myself repeatedly and
i think as i can look back at the historian historically is being need for
private space come about colbert action
but he did that he recorded
did the necessity
relevance
of covert action private conversation andy green added characterisation people
in a variety of spaces you know or even this in mind is that i needed at a
private conversation about me to decide allowed
because
uh... that that on
so that they can extend to meet her and activity went into the key issuing
civilly
you know something could be tricky around the world in a minute is great
but these also closing out the possibility of us uh...
private spaces
we're aloft important
a lot of the work i think a lot of things you know i was in ordinance would
consider a particularly important
has happened in pregnant any private spaces and does the senator
indeed
many regards
we're probably a plan for what problem of questions for medium
fifty limited stock them in the panelists could respond uh... to
whatever they would like to
fiscal think alot because this has been of the vibrate
extraordinary conversations
as an older generation feminist i can honestly say i've been really skeptical
of
what's
happening social media for a lot of reasons one most of us are behind
screens and no longer in the streets
that said i a listener that the street is not the place it was
many years ago it's basically been made a very difficult place to archiplanet
retain any kind of credibility whatsoever
with that said i i i also
worry very much and social media that there's a fine line between this uh...
human need for a recognition so eloquently put
and yet this failure to do with the personal work
kind of transplants from one domain of media and entertainment
to this new
format of interaction
where we're kind of looking for our oprah moment so that we all get someone
to answer our version of hour drama
and that becomes something quite different than allegation that selection
also c_n_n_ like an assistant
inadvertently
into a seven-year
national immigration hasselbeck
kept me out of the countryside had seven years of being completely isolated
without knowing which baseball in my community of new yorkers not to be
replaced by anybody else in the world
and so i've had this it's day extremely expensive
so living by casey
fit what i could see and what i experience and there's something
phenomenal about connecting being with your people even via internet button
when you want more than that
and it's extremist satisfied
but i do see what i do entered a blog spear that oftentimes the comments and
exchange there's this sort of this great divide between i've known as a matter of
sincerity and you just feel people just soph
gating this good stuff and then this crazy place of hostility and
and screaming and cheering on
or just whining
kind of venting and all that energy
on the part of each of you as a kind of um...
personal response team
and silly and think what's happened is have
whole range of expectations
has become socially
unsustainable to use the language of sustainability
in the midst of needing
more and more community more and more human interaction
we're standing
sunshine guest some kind of question about
what's the nature
this uh...
his deepest desire for personal stimulation and interaction and has that
relate to me p
uh... place where we now
certainly
industrial world have this idea that all of our personal expectations shed and
must be satisfied
is that legitimate because certainly that's something very very difficult to
attain
and assertive
interested in how you would think about this
thank you uh... look that's let's take a one more question for the audience and
then
the panels which i for one opportunity respond to
where that uh... see fit we'll have about ten minutes i'm sorry
further to our questions
i'm just hoping that you all can talk about twitter gate at least a little bit
and i'm curious day at the differences between and the academic from the panel
in the journal sentinel and what their responsibilities are as far as
making public uh... conversations that may be in progress
in your summer and a little bit for people who don't know
we keep referencing and i actually don't feel like enough about the fact that i
feel like they're proud to come out in tonight and we're talking about phil
someone that there somewhere
from when i understand
talking to strangers
and there's a lot of subjects that
create emotional
responses
from people you don't know
talking to strangers month
my question is after you get your opinion and whatever the subject might
be
and some crazy gives you a shout back
are you able to enjoy that shot in laugh about it
or do you feel art
it's
okay so i'm i'm just the swim just uh... start bin and moved on the panel so you
can respond
to identify
optical aslam fact uh...
uh... him cry
uh... sometimes i feel hurt because the person has actually pointed out
something that messing in my writing that i should have been around
and those are those public learning moments that courtney
talked about beginning which inside an affair with and that i have to
take a step back and
remind myself that i said thank
this person
heard an incentive mean but you know i've got a lot of emails and confident
completely ignoring because
they don't seem
they're not rational are there
they have profanity and then the border
there something happened on that
that's just creepy at i have four rolls on my part common section anything
account number off at my back and i pray that that
there's no reason for an effective then there's no comment on my physical being
i had to make that will be kind and caring for me
uh... no anti-semitism which i have to do cuz my last means god seemed felt for
some reason that the tax and confirm next wednesday
and no profanity
if you can follow those rules out ten days with you
that if you can
our answer to your gate which i just found out
was a which i just read out the route
uh... when and have to have to
act seems to be a debate among historians about whether or not
duplicates a tree
their presentations of their unpublished papers on unpublished research banking
though if that's not an accurate
time
free that that i i did think it was a really interesting and and part because
they don't
journalists have been having from uh...
disdain debates about hamas
we show the notes of our reporting
and should be published online mike foale transcripts of our interviews
that can make it into
stories so that you can see quotes in contact persons out of contact
uh... and generally and a supporter of full disclosure all the time for
everything
outlines some acts from china and france two pieces that might work
publicly
that i
i can only imagine academic but also
learn a lot from that process
i think if you had an events where s speakers as
i would prefer that you not to be
this presentation and *** obviously be totally respect it
uh... i think
acontecer have expressed that conversation about pens you can't really
now
asimmons feels they think
if you're hosting an event as an institution are organization or an
individual
you should set them down
at the beginning but
ultimately i think i think work have improved by public conversation about
about it and reaction to it
thanks from him
with regard to the issue at scooterguy ice
being what's material is this idea of taking someone's
original knowledge production and making it public without their consent
uh... but then the question then becomes
that is this intended for and for what purpose
and
wife right
so
i don't know then will be we will be able to keep
fifteen that republished
off of the internet
its terms of redeemed about conversation uh...
within the digital humanities
one of the things that someone brought up that i hadn't thought about
is that there's a difference
between me speaking to you all right now army handing my paper to everyone
it being searchable on google by everyone in the world
so you have the sanctity of the conversation in this room
in in this paper copies
and in their school
sold at such a billy peace at the
it acts another new wants to leave
in terms of being able to control
out skylar as a blogger
your or said it's much labor sound
i don't know what's going to commit that but i know that the internet is
incredibly powerful
people love using sesame
it ab
i don't feel like the best time to commentary i will say i am working i
work with our decision called the out that contact which is trying to make
forms of foundation
exactly when you're the demographic of the united states see imagine how much
work is yet to be down there
and i i ran the l university programs have twenty professors have applied to
be and her either women or people of color men of color
it's amazing to me the non-academic we were talking a little bit about this
before i like the amount of
fear
that they have to admit they've internalize even when they have ten-year
has just blow me away and
adults you know it's
you know i'm so glad britain's right now i think there's section important
conversation at the academy and what it does to people and how they feel they
have to be so protective apparently personal property and how the rest of us
without
and because of that and have had this incredible professors they can't get
right anything for a popular audience 'cause they're just so
afraid of what that means for them
uh... which just makes me incredibly sad and i'm not expand patents in i say that
as like a naive journalistic person
site is one way that we haven't said it was really important just friendship
and like
digital communities and communities are
dana sum total of friendship sensibly rate and i think that europe request not
flat rock concert was learning and
just feel like
one of the places where feedback
and kind of growth
di is on the finance and there are genuine friendships
that the context in which those things are happening
within genuine friendships and
french it is hard man i mean and n even feedback within
french if they have nothing to do u_s_ political stuff is really hard right
like one of the last thing actually give a friend feedback are received feedback
also
i think this closer we have such struggle with genuine feedback
and also we struggle to be friends across all kinds of demographic barriers
severed
the more that we can think about this in the contents of friendship that mike how
to recreate friendship so that
i can call correct me if something happens haha
because i know we have a genuine respect for one another
in person
and in the context of that as opposed to it all being online and for the movement
all this stuff it feels like
makes it very difficult to genuinely process
integrated so
yeah i think
being a community of having to do in relationships a really important is it
leads to a certain accountability
some out of times when folks say this is what you should be doing talking about
and they want their personal hundreds and it's become heroes and a half points
that i check in with about
how to retain my sense of what's important to me and what's important to
us
twitter date there's a lot of like to say that i will say here's the funny
part
consulting and happening about
trying to rest and and uh... select
the couple write about it but
my sense that that is that
one of the things we want to do with the csc
is to really challenged these academic barriers the tell us to be raids that
uh... to not share any demands the work
so i a at this point and about democratizing
and what i think that i think we have technology is that in some place this is
where the culture is moving
when i graduated in two thousand nine
they don't like how we're gonna have to split your dissertation in the
electronic dissertation repository and some people people know that
beholztech casey and add uni
and thought they were you act like cookies and bargains out some
accompaniment but was the book if they can we get up
black cell that is where the culture academia going get distorted open-access
kind of thing
but
were part of this is about of wanting to make sure that
folks who don't ever make it like the asylum conference which is where this
happened
can here about their history and no one doubts
you know so any also never even heard colleague murray main
in less someone's we did it from one of the camels that she's imported
and if you balance sheet is
mobile warren she the parts that you should know
and and the teacher indeed what's that
hackett uh...
although their hand also no intellectual property is fragile
adult women from kenya
still just still happen will block closed and publish it in the news of
course newspaper there
this looked like that
anyway let's look at what you don't think this case
planes
likewise all these reasons here
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output
off but
let me ask what that means enough weeks of the original will not happen
and scarlett
anything exit
you kids janet
he also talked about
it
absent donations bus
you know hotline
thing that's happened is
they winding on the internet
people they can do with it
now listed
you know of anything
muscles like this is the best
back i think the last thing that i will say about this done
would is
particularly as a person who thinks about these things in terms of black
women's experiences
know they're black women have ever had the luxury of doing now this production
in a way that was it
i think that everything
do letter in
have been public
has been considered the property of someone else
and acting at the power in that
despite the history of exploitation comes from
is that we have always been islands
and then decided that it that were the case
we're going to use it to transform communities that stick
cell sit convention blackwell is deep pockets fear anytime soon this will not
be protected and people are going to respected
harmful units and she
let's make it public cantons and that's what's also needed since the possibly of
doing putting out content terms
and i think that that
candied
so much someone's uh...
just they respond to that questions a bit
uh... do you feel better after you car
responded with a stranger
sometimes yes and usually
me personally
me now that i've been in that situation nearly as much as as these women
using a proud of myself than expected me to be able to take a certain kind of
hiring
you know i became the first words didn't you know
like excuse me thank you i know you
like ready to come from with this and i've been able to kind of like rein some
of what i know megan teachable moment in the midst of all of us
at mom's and actually going to bring
in that moment ring a little
collectively to myself
you know i i met anybody level another's
and the reactionary in that way so some time that is that it's time that you can
discriminate do the deep breath
and come for a place that you could be a product so and seventies is by what you
were saying
itu
maybe because click on that for gotten generation of gen x_
that you know and not necessarily in
think of it the millennium willingness to share in not kinda like repair old
internet kind of space
you know i a few feel real concern around
the ways in which digital communicate the seniors filling in for a lot of
other things and i was going to people with also frustrated with streets
because i want the streets to be like don't bring to evaluate the argument and
i don't what comes next into removing this issue forward
and i feel the same way with a lot of the vehicle
so and also people have a sense
just let me do it around
like back to you square helped
like i sign the petition i helped i've forwarded the cali video god help us i
helped care izod i've been releasing him both please if you don't need situations
about the actor translation again that larger web
in which the down
activities really need to be viewed
uh... twenty d
uh... i will say
uh... and uh... story
do feel that a little bit more to it that you get some of the extreme so it's
like the old fogey primate
academic title one
you know exactly is a new day and i'm going to get the program
i do think it's a little more than that uh...
and very torn about it i'd be good for me again it's about
not just the way not just this information is going to be flying
instead weakening appreciate network to whatever degree of the social good but i
think also it's again about
and uncertain prioritizing of
the room they were in now in space there were in i'm connecting with your faces
and seeing what you're saying an energy ending from you and hopefully you're
getting from us
and while i hope that some of that is acceptable to the people who watch the
sandifer
and i think it's often different from ing if the people in talking to our
looking park
participating in the head either channeling energy into some other device
in some of the screen and conversations i think we might have could be different
as a result of that
so me act out that i stopped by treating but actually did not anna how might be
like slightly better treat girl
someone take my pen to paper notes inland suite of afterwards you know so
that's kind of a middle ground that i've found but i think that
ideas of how we come together and and academics and share and connect with
each other
to really need to have to be tired i think the part of what's
hard about twitter gated nondescript still has to make a million dollars
could scholars are not making a million dollars
you know if you really about that moment and com
and this is a culture
not of much hiding in the data back to be shipped about kind of
uh... structure of scaffolding of ideas
and what happens
but why did that day
on one level we can celebrate my protecting kenya speaker complicated
thought is still
had the space
that still i'm good
he had any
and then turn around and be shocked when those same people take issue with the
fact that you did some on-the-fly hundred forty character translation of
what you said while you were saying it
at times a four year senator paragraph
so while i'm really uh...
well i want somebody who did it go to conference in the fight caitlin but you
know i don't have a comment
printing
uh...
even though i really do respect
kind of public service aspect of it think also
we need to be realistic
and see a disservice to other academics and other scholars about to graduate
students they don't have the time or money to make it the pharmacist
but not to pretend that bill suites on the same is bringing academic
scholarship to wider
circles
that work needs to be done is a particular kind of work
and i want us to do it and i don't want began this kind of digital space
to be like are brought to the masses you know it
i think the kind of work of um...
i would mention about writing for different venues
being willing to fright your
write your books and has a different kind of way and i have to make it three
books asking you to do so
is we we need to hear our attention and i get concerned when we herself in the
back for
uh... certainly xinxin
tolerance
who will come for sure a lot of time but as well i think all the time us for a
fantastic discussion
this is to be continued online and in real life and all the spaces between
some things have abundance possum