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Retirement is a bad idea.
Can you believe that I just said that?
Yes? We're going to find out why. Alright,
you just blew our minds with your crazy
statement. Retirement is a bad idea. I'm
guessing... No, I'm not even gonna guess.
Start explaining yourself. Because we all
think that retirement is like the goal.
We want to stop working and
go and live you know drink smoothies on
the beach. I would say we all but I would
say that's the general, traditional
idea is you work. Like work, work, work,
work and then boom you retire and it's
just yeah it's all my ties on the beach,
right. So the the main problem I have
with that whole plan is well
there's a lot. There's going to be more. There's
a lot but the main one - the first one. The
first okay, is everyone that I know that
is really looking forward to retirement
hates their job and that's a big
one of the biggest reasons why they want
to retire. It's a good point. So they're
dedicating up to 40 years of their life,
doing something that they don't like.
That's like 8 hours every single day.
They're doing that for 40 years. I'd say
more than 40 at this point, right?
45, 50, I mean if you're
retiring at 65, right. I mean - yeah. You
start at 18 or something and to finally
be able to do what you want with your
life
and by that time you're old and out of
shape and wrinkly, unhealthy. You know you
don't able to do some of the fun stuff.
So it's like yeah, retirement is good for
that rare person that actually has
enough saved. I worked in finance for a
long time
and saw there like 401k's,
those type things. People aren't really
able to retire off them that's why
there's there's wonderful greeters at
Walmart and - that's a good point. Anyway,
I'm going to drop a plug for a
book "The 4-Hour Workweek". Oh yes you've
mentioned about that. About the mini
retirements sure you listened to it I
have listened to it many many times - but
never read it.
I have not read it. He is... I don't
read that much audiobook but I know I'm
not a critic. I'm just saying I'm a
critic of people who use them to replace
reading that's why I always ask. Were you
jogging? Were you driving or are you just
sitting around listening to a book when
you could actually have it? Most people
only do all these times I ever sit there
and do nothing is when I'm actually
trying to fall asleep. I'll use an audio
book to put me to sleep. See now and I
all I'm saying is I know we're off topic
but by actually holding up a book and
the movement of your eyes and and all of
that that's going to make you way more
tired than hearing the author drone on
and although it does put her to sleep too.
I'm just saying I just don't want to see
reading go away. I'm a big fan. Anyway - so
he's starting a foundation. Keep reading
a life. That's what I'm never going to retire
I'll be in my 90's and I won't be doing
anything... I do read a lot on the screen,
computer screen. Texts, email, I read them all the time. But
then before you move on. Let me just
chime in here too. Absolutely have never
planned on retiring. Now that may be a
function of who I am and what I am. I'm a
performer and entertainer, a speaker,
trainer. I don't feel like I have... I don't
feel like I'm ever working enough in my
field. We're always waiting for the next
thing and trying to get the next gig and
so I can't even imagine at 60 or 65
being done. A- there's still work for me
to do as a 70 or 75 year old voice
narrator guy or as a speaker or trainer.
But also I would be so unbelievably
bored if I weren't still working and by
working, I mean a pleasant blend of
retirement and work. I think there's a
lot to being with your family, being with
your grandkids. Retiring, sipping my ties
verging my ties on the beach or whatever.
But also having something that keeps you
going.
That gets you up each day that it may be
his work based or at least is doing
something. Part of my bias comes from the
mentality I have about being an employee.
I'm just not built to be an employee
where if I'm just a cog in someone's
machine, mm-hmm - you know a cog on the
wheel in somebody's machine and I'm just
showing up. I'm not creating anything. The
business owner, they're the ones that get
it create and decide where the company
goes and I'm just there to do my to do
my time, it's like I'm not in that as an
employee in that role, I'm not really
purpose driven and I would want to
retire from that. But I've had so many
years as an entrepreneur, where I get to
create and I get to choose the direction
I want to go. I don't want to stop. This
so this is what this is right this is
what I'm enjoying and I'm fulfilling my
purpose. I'm creating and I'm really
excited about my accomplishments. I'm
really looking forward to the future. Now,
I just a couple weeks ago came back from
an amazing vacation. Oh. It was awesome. It
was good. We were at a cabin on a
reservoir waterfront. Totally able to
recharge. I totally want to go back. I
could see myself like taking a good
vacation like that every quarter - right.
That'd be that would be amazing and
you're young and you're able to enjoy it
right now doing it while... You know what I
mean. You've got children who play and a
wife who's active. So I mean to your
point. If you're to save up all that, "I
will do that when we're older and
retired". Chances are, there's
going to be things that get in the way of
that. So enjoy it now while you can. And truly,
it's almost an unfair thing to say
retirement is a bad idea
because those that are watching that are
working for the man, that are a cog. They
go, "yeah, but Nate, you are an entrepreneur.
You do run your own business. So you
have that freedom." What do you say to
them you know what I mean? And I guess
that's the question is the message
today, quit your job and start your own
business? My message today is if you're
miserable - got it now. If you're miserable,
is that really what you want?
That let me bring another point. That's
good. Yes it is. If you I'm an employee, I don't
get to choose my coworkers.
Generally that's true. Just spending
more time with people that I don't
choose than I am even with my family,
with my wife and kids. Yeah. But to them,
does that make sense? Yeah, no I get it.
You're basically you're painting
a picture of really a common work
environment in which people spend
75% of their waking
lives with non family members and
beyond that,they're people that they
didn't get to pick or hire or hand
select because there's some charming and
amazing and fun and lovable. And if
they're in a job also where they feel
like this isn't my dream job I didn't
grow up wanting to be this but I'm in it
because I'm indebted and I need money
then retirement does look like heaven.
You can't wait to retire from
that. So these are just my
strong opinions. Yeah. That's how I want
to roll. Yeah - I do not think it's a sin
to be an employee. I think you can be an
employee and actually make it to heaven.
That's the ultimate goal. So you're not a
sinner if you're an employee. I'm glad
you made that clear. Yeah, in case
you're like... But for me, it's like
I really do feel like I would be doing
something wrong. I'd be letting myself
down if I were an employee. I really feel
that way. No that's cool. I think this is
a great a great topic. great discussion
because what you may have done is you've
got people thinking - you know if he feels
that strongly about it, is it just Nate?
Obviously not there's a bajillion other
people that have their own businesses,
that do their own thing, that call their
own shots. They call their own vacation
times and then actually select the
people they want to be with three
quarters of their lives. And you might be
one of them and so if this in any way
serves you, then job done. Yeah if it
inspired you to you know light that
spark of entrepreneurship, that's why I
wanted to make this. I think
everybody watching has something that
they think they're really good at. That
they really love that they want to do.
And if they've been able to marry that
to the job that they're
in, more power to them. But even like you
were doing, you know you were doing
things that you were good at that you
were able to leave your job and just do
on your own anyway and do it better for
clients and cheaper and it's built and
grown. So maybe there's ways for you to
do what you want to do on your own. So my
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