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um... we've been talking for the last down a half about what happened in
connecticut uh... and various policies and proposals and what that congress
could conceivably do we know what to bring in a guest you can talk about what
congress might
actually
and again omit
if there's so many things that they have been introduced in
in congress before there's the gun show loop all
there's the assault weapons ban which was allowed to expire there's the brady
bill all sorts of legislation that the congress is taken up but it's important
remember that at least over the last
i'd say the last seven or eight years uh... congress has been unwilling to
really uh... do anything that there was a uh...
obviously assault weapons ban those pastor in the clinton administration
but over the last several years has really been uh...
it's been tough for congress it's been tough to get congress to do anything in
the spike
the massacres of columbine in bridging attack in aurora colorado
newtown connecticut
it sometimes getting congress to take up a gun control and reasonable gun control
it is just so much money that the national rifle association is able to
bring to bear
that a lot of politicians are nervous about that taking it out that in fact it
to make the point
uh... mitch if we can i wanna run there's a clip of the present or by a
mile from a one of the presidential debates where he was
he's talking about the sort of gun control and and and policy and keep in
mind
this is not an issue that president bob are really wanted to attack on his first
term
and i think it's fair to say that uh... at least until yesterday this is not an
issue that the white house and felt they wanted to spend any
time on taking up in the second term so
but here's a clip of president baba from uh... one of the presidential debates
this fall talking about the issue of gun control i'm gonna
policy
coordination that believes in the second amendment
and i believe in the second them
we've got a long tradition of of hunting
sportsman
uh... and people want to make sure they can protect themselves
there've been too many instances during the course of my presidency where i've
had to comfort
families
who've lost somebody most recently
ulnar or
so again i mean at a lot of apathy from the president and a lot of serve
it being be wilder dateline society has not been able to do this but again in
terms of sorrow
politics the president of much of a
a political will in congress to be able to do this
i want to live to see if we can bring in daniel new hauser he is a unm
is a a congressional reporter for roll call
and uh... he's been covering congress for some time and he joins us also on
video via
google plus daniel great to see a thanks for being part of take action news
what do you make of that the political impact on congress that did that
newtown connecticut massacre will have
well i'm not sure and daniel whether uh... i i can now whether anybody's able
to hear you because i can't hear you are mentioned uh... and and add that i want
u_n_ eleven elysees at least our audience a belief here
objects or stole sorting out the massive technical issues deal we can see you and
now we're going to work out a figure out there whether doctor why we can't uh...
necessarily a little bit better now
yes i do it without a doubt
so that
that's all right now why is it that you know it's complicated to try to do all
this for everybody's listening on radio ross during his live video streaming
it's not that not easy but we're we're getting a that's what we're talking
about you know that reaction times what you think the reaction will be to what
happened in connecticut
well i ready we saw a you help me at pretty typical reaction a lot of
democrats came out and uh...
and perhaps statements is sort of the day avenue nearly afterwards saying that
this is uh...
disagree with the call
for gun control legislation
uh... why haven't seen any statements from republicans yet
uh... that uh... that that indicate that there are open to any kind of gunter
control legislation
uh... but uh... but of course we did see a lot condolences and and i came from
everybody and so you know everybody's kind of feeling dekhta heartbroken about
this in dysentery actually sauce or aurora but maybe even more because you
know back into the day we're talking about children here was just such a
horrible thing
do you think that this uh... this moves the the needle politically with the
white house and that that the president is perhaps now obligated in addition to
sort of
being the the
helping the nation grieved at the comments made there's some other gation
on the white house deceptive here's a legislation of the support of his what
we would like how the studio
you know it's interesting that yesterday somebody have made a petition to the
white house
uh... you know these these republicans haitians if they get twenty five
thousand signatures at the white house has to respond to it again one day it
already had a a over seventy five thousand so they will now have to
respond in this position was calling for media legislation now you know we
haven't heard anything definitive from the president
we've heard him and said that they need to meaningful action and he he said you
know
a politician factored into this what that is that we need we don't know
and we know that he's been on the record in support of uh...
an assault uh... rightful band that you know this uh... this panorama on two
thousand four
uh... that was uh... in place of for a decade since you during that the clinton
church and uh... you know press secretary j carney i said ah...
yesterday and day before that uh... you know he reiterated the president's
support for that and what the president
would support beyond that we don't know yet
mhm i did get the sense that they're even as some republicans in congress now
that i mean what you get your twenty
kindergarteners
gunned down at uh...
and let you know is a plus for three people imagine
edges that at least are to say okay even if the republicans look we support the
second that we believe people have a right to have weapons but there's
nothing wrong with closing the gun show a little of making sure that you know
criminals and people of mental issues are not be able to just buy these guns a
gun shops
well you know uh... it's a shame because we don't
i actually know then any of those two factors played
uh... played a role in this particular killing so so there is a sort of an out
there uh... if you know
that i guess there's a lot of sketchy information right now and then she still
being uh... being worked out but it seems like this uh... this young man at
a personality disorder
uh... it seems like the guns that were perhaps owned by the family how he was
able to procure then we don't exactly know if that's ok so uh... you know i
don't know
what specifically
congress would have to address now with the republicans
uh... are going to say okay yes now it's time to uh... to do with a gun control
that it's a highly doubtful and you note that so that there's a lot of red state
democrats
who would probably have be skeptical that any kind of efforts to control
costs while while you're you're right about sort of the facts in terms of what
happened in in newtown in after these words on several legally obtained by
adam lands as mother and then there was a obviously out of my grab them our and
and
used one of the killer i think one of the things we're talking about earlier
the technology just right now the uh... have a some sort of a smart guns and
that is
you have to either i have asserts or fingerprint in order to be able to use
your weapons of the somebody else grabs them or steals them from you do in the
guns cannot uh... be use that they are essentially
are jammed
that technology exists in the idea congress has been slow to even serve
consider that kind of thing could that change
you know and maybe uh... you know i i got to say that uh...
the the way that the president came out in his speech splitting it changed and
you know he started crying i guess i haven't seen him so passionate about
uh... about
that issues maybe any other issue a so you know we've got to you've got it
assumed that uh... that the president that will do what he says that he would
he will try to take some kind of meaningful action but you know that
might just stop at the halls of congress because you got a better member
republicans controlled the house
john bainer voted against the assault rifle bana and nineteen ninety-four as
did a lot of other republicans you know if you remember jack brooks the
judiciary committee chairman the democrat from texas at that time who
sponsored the bill that had the assault rifle them she was not elected
basically because if you have asset
uh... he was a time out of office so you know this is a very very touchy issue
and it's gonna be hard for a lot of uh... a lot of republicans and southern
democrats to get on board with it
we'll talk with their new house there is a congressional reporter for roll call
on our part of a potential for gun legislation in congress
uh... daniel is gennady i was a lot of political pressure on a lot of numbers
to do more than just uh...
middle or the flag which there were traded in washington yesterday
how does this play out in your view in terms of idea does congress have tat
have hearings the based sort of take a as staff towards gun control legislation
to sort of appease the the public right now even if they may not eventually be
votes or anything passed
uh... perhaps that we did see that cathy mcmorris rodgers and who is a a
republican in the house and she's got it going to be a conference chairwoman she
did at open the door to some kind of hearings uh... you know that said
and that you know you've got to be careful when you talk about guns gun
control at you know that you got a look at the key players here in congress
right you've got here you read
john bainer now we know which understands here we have until the
twenty thousand american men are as well he's from nevada
and not by any stretch of the imagination a state that the uh... it's
uh... it's pro-gun control asso you know if he's got to worry about his
constituents constituency as well
uh... but here we got two hundred and light trucks humor she was the original
sponsor of the sock a raffle been so uh... ended
and carolyn maloney who is uh... whose husband was that children and i i don a
gun incident
actually uh...
said that she is going to have put a lot of pressure she said this is different
now
i'm gonna really put pressure on president to do something so either i
think that there will be some kind of action taken whether that's gonna
resolve legislation
i'm skeptical about
one of the tools of
but our website was the last question for election going in as a tool called
popups as a way of sort of like contacting your member of congress have
just a couple of clicks and they know that your constituents
admitted that you're you're up here in their district your voter how important
is it now two members of congress even sort of a lame duck session or in the
beginning in january the next congress for them to actually here in some
fashion from their constituents on these issues
well i think that's probably the most important thing because you know when
these things happen there's a lot of public outcry
there there's a lot of uh... lot of grief the den it eventually allah
subsides and uh... and then you know members of congress kind of realize
uh... well you know the the fires not under me anymore i guess i don't really
have to do anything if there's a continued public pressure continued
action cries from constituents or god forbid something like this happens again
which into having so much seems like it's inevitable uh... then uh... then
congress will be
even more it'll be even when it's recumbent saxo so i think it's it's
right now to to uh... for people to
buses certificate and using it dot
daniel new house a congressional reporter for roll call daniel thanks for
being part of take action is not only a radio show bottles or live video
streaming take action is dot com we appreciate you joining us have a good
weekend
ninety two
your uh... uh... very welcome of course and uh... and by the way coming up we're
gonna talk to alan rosenblatt about the social media component to uh... gun
policy the gun violence yesterday that's coming up with a change gears for an
excitement
this is a fascinating week in terms of
union that busting efforts there was some blue known as a right-to-work
legislation that passed in michigan we'll explain what that is and why it is
such a big deal to talking with a michigan state representative brandon
dylan on the other side of this break
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