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But from an American President, three times,
including a private letter, from President to President.
Mr. Wattson, because we have two minutes till the end of the show.
The downfall of Romania in the face of the Western partners
begins with the publishing by Pacepa of the books "Red Horizons",
in the West in 1988. In 1978, sorry.
Pacepa discloses the mechanisms of the Ceausescu totalitarian system
fact ...
that leads the American Administration to cancel the Most Favored Nation Clause
and to enstranged somehow as a supporter for Ceausescu's independence,
within the Warsaw Treaty.
You are confirming in your book one thing,
to which we wouldn't have thought ever possible,
that Ion Mihai Pacepa was KGB agent.
A thing that would enlighten us in another way
the publishing of the book "Red Horizons".
and our economical destiny in the '80.
A few clarifications:
he left in 1978 for USA, he published the book in 1987.
In 1987, in 1988 it appeared.
But it was already a manuscript. It was spread in 1985.
And almost immeadiately it was broadcasted on radio Free Europe.
In the same time,
he didn't...
when he arrived in USA, he didn't change anything in the relationship with the USA.
Not for the next two years, because Carter co-operated very close with Ceausescu
even in 1978 it was this official visit
in which Carter admited actually that Romania played a very supportive role,
not only for his Administration, but for the previous, too.
He was the first and I think the last President who said that "Actually he was not only with me".
For example, Nixon said all the time that China and Romania were with him
but they were approached by President Johnson who asked this types of things,
that are a part of the poll problems, everywhere.
But the thing with Pacepa, "to whom he served ?"
I don't know exactly. If it was an agent against Romania, that was clear.
Because all the lines and the things from the book
were put down by CIA, when they did a research about that.
If he was a Trojan Horse ? Also the Soviets thought about that and Stassi said in a report
that Romania is a "Trojan horse" in the Warsaw Treaty because it would allow NATO in.
But beside that, he can be only a Soviet agent or Soviet agent shared with another country.
Or GRU.
Anyway he had done more harm to Romania than good.