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-You guys ready?
-Yeah, let's do it.
-Shai, I have a question for you.
I want to know what triggered your survivalist,
you know your big survivalist bust?
-Bam.
Yeah, you know I started studying indigenous--
It's so funny because we answer all these questions.
So I feel like you're going to always be like Shai,
why are you answering this question at the same words
that you always do?
-No.
I understand.
You can definitely always answer the same.
-No, but it can be a fun challenge.
We have to like find synonyms for--
-Yeah, it's a shame.
-I started studying indigenous cultures
and really loved the lifestyle that they lived, and loved
how connected to the ecosystem they
were, and started thinking about it.
And there's this concept called re-wilding that a friend named
Daniel Vitalis introduced into my world, which is adapting
to the conditions in which we live in.
You know like adapting to living under fake lights
and in drywall and whatnot.
Because we're never going to be able to go-- And yeah,
so that's sort of why I started studying wilderness survival
skills.
A, because I thought it would be fun, but B, just because I
wanted to know how to survive and thrive.
-Cool.
-Yeah.
-Do you think that helped you get the role?
-I do.
I hands down do.
Like I went in there, and right before
I was having a meeting with the producers,
and they were like so what do you do in your free time?
And I was like, well, I really love to do this and I do that.
I'm like I think hunting's pretty fun.
Or not fun, but I think it's an important thing,
like if I want to eat meat I want to know how
to hunt, et cetera, et cetera.
And we started talking, and they're
like so you are comfortable around guns?
And I was like well I know a little bit about them.
So I actually do think it might have helped
with Tris because we're very similar I guess in that.
-You guys have both read some of the books.
Was that helpful getting knowledge
about your characters?
-Yeah, definitely.
I haven't read the-- neither of us
have read the last one because I think if we're lucky enough
to do any more movies it'll inform
the performance a bit much.
But definitely the first two for both of us really,
but specifically for Tobias, the second book
really informs his background, and it gives you
more perspective on him.
So that was definitely important.
But then at the same time you need
to make your own decisions about the character
and be kind of confident with them.
Because obviously a big question is
are you nervous about living up to expectation, or like playing
a character that's beloved and people are invested in?
But at the end of the day A, it's
good to be doing that because people already
love the character, which is definitely a positive thing.
But then, conversely, you need to make decisions
based on your own instincts, because that
is what our job is really.
-You mentioned that about this character being based
on the book and how popular they already are, you know.
How do you handle those fans' expectations?
Because I mean you saw last night how crazy everybody was.
-You can't really--
-Think about that really.
-You can't really be aware of it because anything that's going
to effect your performance you need to--
-Disregard it?
-Yeah, disregard because, as you were saying,
you have your own take on the characters.
-I mean if I were to try and play Tris
the way that you envisioned her, and the same way that you
envisioned her, and the way you envisioned her,
and the way you envisioned her, she would just
be like a mess of a human, you know?
Because it'd be tons of different ideas of someone
versus an intuitive sort of authenticity
that we were able to bring to the characters.
-Yeah, and they hire you for what
you're going to do with the character.
-And when you think too much about the character
anyway it ends up be boring.
-Exactly.
It has to be natural and intuitive as Shai said.
-What would your fear landscapes be?
-Submarines in space.
-Dumbledore cooking pancakes.
-Dumbledore?
Are you sure it's not orca sex?
-Oh, *** you.
I just remembered that.
That was at MTV something.
-Did you say orca sex?
-He tried to say awkward sex but it came out as orca sex.
-That's hilarious.
That would hurt.
-It would, yeah.
-That is a legitimate fear.
-Oh yeah, have you seen--
-"Blackfish."
-Yeah, have you seen that?
-Yeah.
-Documentary?
-Yeah, did you see it?
-No.
-It's very good.
You'd like it.
-I wanted to ask about the training for the movie,
like all the physical training you
had to do to get ready for it.
Can both of you tell us a little bit
about what you had to go through?
-Yeah, we had about a month of training
prior to filming, which was fun and awesome.
Our stunt coordinators are incredibly bad ***,
and are both ex-military.
Right?
Both of them are?
-J.J. is.
I think--
-Garrett is as well cause he's got
a tattoo of like navy or something?
-Is he?
I thought he's an ex-boxer.
-You're probably right.
But they're both very well versed in their worlds.
-They're definitely the real deal by far.
-So it was fun.
We did sort of basic hand-to-hand combat
training as well as physical fitness.
He had to pump it in the gym all the time to get those muscles.
-Yeah.
And they came--
-Fight choreography.
-Yeah.
-Did you do your own stunts, or a lot of them?
-As many as we could that insurance would allow.
-So you didn't jump off the train?
-No, I did do that.
-You did do that.
-We both ran and jumped on and off the train.
The one scene where we're like slow-mo
in the air, that wasn't me.
-OK.
-Were there any scenes in particular that you really
wanted to do, but couldn't?
-I wanted to do the zip line more.
Most of it is all green screen.
There's one shot where my stunt double went between buildings
in Chicago.
-Oh, really.
I thought it was all green.
-No.
And I did it too.
There was one-- Alicia went maybe 1,000 feet of zip line,
and I maybe did 300 or 400 feet, but we
were both like 85 feet in the air
dangling in the middle of a Chicago alley
at like 2:00 AM, 3:00 AM going back.
-I was saying *** that's fun because we saw it yesterday.
-She got to do the fun.
-That was one of my favorite sequences the zip line.
I thought it was cool.
Well done.
-Yeah, thanks, bro.
-You're a pretty good beat-boxer .
Did you get your inspiration from Dougie Fresh?
-Ha, ha, ha, Dougie Fresh.
-I saw you doing it last night on the carpet.
-Yes.
True.
True.
No, I used to do really bad rapping when I was 18.
We thought we were, you know, cool
when we loved hip hop, which is ironic, really,
because I'm from Buckingham ***.
-Nobody in America knows what that means.
I mean, I don't know what that means.
-Well, anyway.
-[INAUDIBLE] from London, right?
-No, it's just you're outside.
But it's just kind of a funny paradox,
like the queen sipping tea and then being like [BEAT-BOXING].
Anyway.
-So do you like rap music?
-I do.
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying.
My friends at school, we used to love-- we played basketball
on this basketball team, and we used to take boom boxes down.
And the funny thing is, is in America
it's so awesome because obviously the standard here
is so much better.
So whenever we'd play guys who played in America
they'd obviously whoop our *** as well.
And we used to take our boom boxes
and try to go down to the local park and hustle.
But obviously it was against like 12 year
old kids, be like hey, what's up?
You want to play?
They're like no.
Anyway, random story.
-If you guys could be any superhero who would you be?
-Catwoman.
-Oh,
-She's so sexy.
Yeah.
What a babe right?
Like showing up on her motorcycle in all black, sleek,
like in and out the window Batman style.
So cool.
I've thought about this.
-In a practical way, or like reflection of the movies?
-Any.
-Yeah.
-Yeah, no.
Because obviously Superman I think
would be too much because I don't know,
there's no limit really to your power.
So I think maybe Spider-Man cause
you've got super strength.
-Do you think come March 21, or 22,
like your life is going to completely change?
Have you thought about that?
Like it could go from being able to go out anywhere
you want to pandemonium?
-No.
We don't think about that.
-Based on what we saw last night I don't know.
-It's really hard to, yeah you really don't know.
And I think as actors you're kind of mentally trained to not
go there because you're always--
-Also as human beings it's like we
don't know what's going to happen tomorrow,
you know, like regardless of this industry
or leaving this whole "Divergent" thing out of it,
you never know what's coming in life, and to think about it
or worry about it just seems like such a waste
of present moment.
-Yeah.
-The main thing is we hope that it
has its own journey, singular, based
on its merits of the movie, and of the book.
-That's a great way to put it.
Yeah.
-Do you have any projects coming up?
I know you have "Fault in our Stars" coming out this summer,
but are you working on anything else right now?
-Well, Shai did "Fault in our Stars."
-He did "London's Underground."
-I did "London Fields" and another movie called "Franny."
-What message do you hope young people take away
from this film?
-So many.
Do you want to start, or should I go?
-Hit one.
-I think that there's a lot.
One is that you don't have to be codependent in a relationship,
and you don't need somebody to need you.
You can be empowered, strong, individual,
and you can have another empowered, strong, individual,
and you guys can be partners.
Then you can base your relationship
on fundamentals of trust, and pride, and respect,
which I think is really beautiful,
and a neat thing to have in a young adult franchise.
I also think it's really neat that Tris and Christina have
such a close relationship, and that they're
supportive of one another, and there
isn't any jealousy or envy involved,
because you very rarely see that in films.
And in real life where females are
able to be supportive of one another
without the external sort of back-stabbing,
and whatnot, the drama that's involved.
Sort of that sisterhood is really special.
I think it's cool that there's two strong females.
Not trying to like discount men because I
love men, but just messages in this movie, two strong females
that between Tris and Kate Winslet's character, Jeanine,
where they go head to head.
And neither of them are right, neither of them are wrong.
If this movie was told through Jeanine's eyes
Tris would look bad, right?
Because Tris is killing people as well.
And so I just think that that's sort of an interesting thing
to note and to correlate to today's society
regardless of whether you're a democrat
or you're a republican, or whether you're
in one party versus another party.
Whenever there's opposing opinions
nobody is right or wrong.
And they're just different standpoints,
different viewpoints.
And I think that if people can like sort of soak that up
at a young age that's a really neat thing to go into the world
with.
-Just one last question.
Can you talk a little bit about working
with Kate Winslet and Ashley Judd?
-Go for it.
-And Tony Goldwyn.
-Tony's very, very cool, really sweet guy.
I actually didn't do any scenes with him.
-Yeah I've never met him.
But he's--
-But we saw him the other day.
Kate is you were saying, and I agree,
she's one of those consummate professionals who's obviously
not only an amazing, incredible actress
and has this illustrious career, but she's
someone who actually still has a passion for it.
She really believes in it.
So she comes in, hangs out in the trailer,
you know, she's fully up for discussing it,
has a filthy sense of humor in a fun way,
and really kind of dynamic person.
-Yeah.
-And Ashley?
You have a few scenes with her.
-Ashley and I connected a lot actually.
We're both very similar sort of in our spiritual viewpoints
and our lifestyles are very similar.
So it was kind of like having a big sister around, you know?
Everybody, really everybody on the set--
We didn't have one ***, which was really nice.
A lot of times you do, but not on this movie.
-And you got to work with Miles Teller again.
--Yeah.
Thank God.
Yeah.
No, it was great.
Miles is the best.
There's no on quite like him in the world.
That's for sure.
And he's just such a bloody good actor
that it was nice to have a brother around.
-Great.
Thank you very much.
-Thank you.
-Our pleasure.