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oh i will confess i want to touch a little bit about your career
introduce you to visit the folks in find out more uh... about how you got to
where you obviously anti-crime msnbc now and just tell me first howie that
started in this for the first place
black
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throughout the country in a couple begum
success and became a marketing
okay repeat
where they had a job i kept out of the program
that happened to be highly regarded
and i'll add very fortunate to have a great education
and act like you
and we know that he might call it what time right after graduation and let you
get the
the new cheque terry their and one of them offered me a job
uh... although i didn't have to let go out about
hundred-pound equipment
no cable leo berman
camera and tripod and barry buchanan
november
in the middle of the bluebird com up in that hearing about a mountain
climbing up on top of the track and i think picking both in microwave dish
few engineer my own life shot
and manny finally came up with a early morning worship to let you know
it would pretty
why work adn back immediately
caillat walker a twenty five an hour
but i cannot what they see that's awesome to see so
now for
those of you aren't familiar syracuse is basically best broadcasting school in
the country that into pathetic
and about
half of the guys you see on t_v_ are from syracuse
and so it's an amazing school will you come out there that you got started a
small market like reno and when you start you know you're doing all the
stuff yourself and often a lot of ways but i think people don't know how little
those local reporters make
we will literally make a twenty five an hour
they aren't there ecampus michael crichton people
philadelphia quite uh... akito reno is about
the half-way plan between help they don't know if you can get help now i can
get
but i can pick up a little bit generated because after i did the blood
looked at me in the world
that has helped literally
adept at certain that literally
and i would be only one and then in that particular and that we know that we have
like a there were a lot of glad that we would like to
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who are making fourteen thousand dollar a year
in update basically starving
and and every yesterday come back at what new graduates are going to make
m reporter colleague gallantly bureau very clear from teacher and
and card program
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yahoo hostess shows that make words and decided in too
charleston south carolina and he was making eighteen thousand a year when he
started yet cochran particularly yet reptilian starting out right
likely any you know you've got really lucky to be sorting in charleston
or atm at that point how old were you just out of school twenty years old
allowed quite yap of this and then what so was the next step where'd you go from
rio
dad ko pumping california
which were
bokram
a pediatric living in out about basically a couple of l_a_ integrate
little aren't quite abit
and her boyfriend in l_a_ at the time act like the back
import that way
i like me all these incredible people i mean
unmet uh... sonny bono identified by their a crime to put out a nephew thank
frank sinatra attorney carrie carrie
and of course
he talked with i don't know that there was any correlation between interviewing
the people i mean demagoguing
but it was problematic
uh... i'm glad you you you're not a dubious yes right between reality and
pass it along to spend and read
act at the command control them
well that's not second kicked into that leave
and car parking happened nearly burkhart at that job
with cracking
hitting manure golf
kinda replied he'll and n my makeup republican pattern
and i'm kathleen back and batteries i thought on that amendment depressed had
manual labor
okay sherry
and then i got the anchoring docking pump going i've got to have to carter
protruding issued plumbing
back the parashar probably looking
uh... p
recreating a critic of the weekend
basically have done every job in the meantime except the java i've never
actually been the bach set-asides
uh... so what evan from palm springs how long he stayed there as an anchor and
then what do you go after that eighty imparted thank out
two-year and night and then might haitian with bought
and they have killed my deflation was bought by capping peaked out at
milwaukee and they said we won't keep you and if we are correct opryland
anchor job in milwaukee would you corrected yeah because that would jump
from mike
i can remember back to preclude prompt him to the time of market one fifty nine
and milwaukee with market thirty-three for the major market got to go there and
the tripled mcalary
battle badly
garment milwaukee and whatever quick email
in california i really became a californian karl at gatwick
sick and hand-to-hand and i love my wife anika milwaukee fred malek a shock
i thought knocked out by twenty people in milwaukee hill actually arafat
because
it's you freak out here
they hadn't yet another lonely i forgot
we talk about
soaked came very quickly in milwaukee eighteen
out by penthouse
impede lancelot packard because if you go
real bright
see-saw pakistan
knock you have to be
except i will admit
i will keep divided now because i went back up too much
that followed him to get them too
therethrough
method biking
and feeling a little
the word for comp
about alton
hardship an optical ke concrete black
yourselves
list at text pictures didn't dissuade you from being up in a very far item
ever look at them
heterosexual
classifieds i like that you don't see if they don't exist
separate the operable that we won't
and i'm not believing they were kicking back
if possible italic he could really are
i hear you ideas so the reason i i i like the source says a lot of people
don't know you know how reporters go off the chain and how that works and
every reporter in the country like knows the size of the city because you know
you move from one fifty nine to thirty three etcetera
instead meet our
number seventy four
i remembered exactly worked in radio
and i remember one of the first pop job possibilities that i had wasn't
huntsville alabama
unit which is very small was very small but f it had the distinction of al
having sean hannity disliked the radio station has been beyond
with sean hannity first radio station
exactly i don't know how could i'd heard because i love well back then i was a
conservative talk show host for the sniffing out
and they knew that i was a really conservative despite an even own a
shotgun
so they'll have to get do you have an alabama i'm not on the stock market
yeah well so
they do not have not i think you need them to keep their up what the white
area telling
well i certainly would be that yes
um... so okay so
telescope with an agent or without an agent how do you make them a life our
everything according to talk about the there without any time
and then in milwaukee your you know that's a huge market
and so
at that point did need to come to you and say all right contessa let's make
this thing happen let at that point i when i
aram
uh... ai with talking to a couple of different again
who wanted to represent me i thought that they can help them grow my career
and telling them i created an intern hero
well who would have been willing to represent me back at that point if
you're making
wilmer mills them something back my first year i'm pumped i'm going to print
six thousand dollars a year
and we thank you to going to take a percentage of that would keep me it did
not make a lot of and royal at wake tech
to move your career long at that point with perfect then and along the creek
babe your owner
and and now
style and bill i thought was a good job hunting
*** like i was in milwaukee and really want to
learn
you want to move your career in a way that may be
lay more competitive
at that point i think it's in the rear meta content at that point killed my
contract with coming up in milwaukee
i can't tell you the lady to dictate at the time she had that they weren't
inching up by the p_l_o_
had been with the poor graffiti
well-coordinated began
and camera picture with having a baby
and we feel it will be a m minute director pregnant you know if you want
to find a new milk in their contract
i think you could look at my couture all learned she group
shipping issue in this country should be emailing bedding and fabric that
you know what
hiking
and economic picture
by moved
out the people i didn't know that i didn't but i gave up my partner and i
looked like unlucky handout now back to chat with baby agreement leader
she got the payment would hurt
answered likely then you've got to take my notion of a baby
backup
anti-western yeah i know i without taking up all of the new jacket at all
quotation pointing out that will give you a free with what they were all pork
asian book i'm not at all
birthday m_v_p_ facial hair actually kind of a reporter aptitude going on
leaving my job in my picture
the crying when i pulled out of the credit card acting a little bit about
okay
ilya and people
now called complaining about
declaring duck bluerider and done
my picture and get a thirty-minute o'connor mobile hospital and that not
having to deploy
but then what happened with no daylight that higher so my really workign akash
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recruiter and the crew that i had
at that time i picked him up and taken care of them
the baby and
unlike picture with back
you know i'm trying to be en route
going to work every day
i could not get work could not go by clicking on the job
litigation because the crime rate that would hiring freeze recruitment
and they've got out of l_a_ actually kept me you know
if i want to give you could get a job if you have a job unthinking what no i know
that now died
when the blinking proudly pointed out certain food but should follow that path
says he does this mean stairways in seattle kansas
anti-white
sir were you in seattle
that we're going to act everything
the end of two thousand cubic beginning in two thousand three
right okay
et aanchal m traveling around the country that gotta keep redirected i
would
and the collecting unemployment
which would
we really difficult
really though and that you call that employment opportunity that many people
right now
katyusha for job training cockpit
i think you will
untrained like oh yeah i know
the job that one ida dot will let you know i think you know what they want to
know the joke about wet interviews but you've got time
i try to explain let me know that i'm not really specialize
indicating that my interviews requirement to travel in
it's really in unemployment predicament work up a lot about when you think that
the really
feeding discouraging affect group he doesn't get that unemployment check in
jack
and accepted the truck
fraction of what i've been turning
it did not
because i think that only because i had given up i thought i was living
with my future profile and i think you cook a proper questioning that claim for
anything at that price
youths with that background he spent some time ago when people
say put some politicians say
all you know what uh... these people on a plan they're just milking the system
and they don't want to get work
is well live off of one point
intellect
dropout after coming to the helicopter negative i don't want to talk about that
and about the kind that i was unemployed
and i don't talk about the fact that when i got an offer from a computer msn
if you know that will make it look good
unique allegation about to lose unemployment
i would like a lot of employment about the same week i got out of her neck and
defeat
hot at that point
i was going to have to go get a job at marshall
buckingham ac moved and who have been on the floor stocking
trades
nothing to say something it doesn't it was an almost the exact situation in the
year two thousand i was on employment after or station in miami close down and
i was trying to get a job in new york relatives of t_v_ writer which is what i
was working at as a time
and on a women applied to become a substitute for
and united goes with the same thing were did you go to apply to jobs to do that i
don't like but i'm a t_v_ writer they like who cares
and then and then i found i was unqualified to be a substitute teacher
attending anger and then i got a job as a writer in l_a_
and things worked out but you know because it happens all the so that's the
whole point of these programs
this is dennis care about you but
i've always fellow could happen if the reader net
the reason i needed to go through that periodicals unemployment liquidated
appealable
for the big job at it and if you met with age
cubed could really
but none of the people who have been out of work for a year ordinary half for two
years
and people they're all going to work out the window at the picture movement
anti-stalking would underground
good that would be really picked up all every
you know
and comfortable
and
because of the bad economy i think that black and healthy issued in his own life
recommending more ml there
really dire straits
kemp-tuba hoping that putting always worked out and we've got all these
product liability
than met
mci panama donated applicant unemployment to pick and i think a week
to keep it when i think about that but we look at that
would appear relatively new york ny helps substances that are we going to be
meets yet so obsessed by the way so that's a really see part of this drama
as we tell the story
how did you get that msnbc job is that god that's a great
you know
leap up as you said how did that work out
documentary blanket hyperlipidemia really underlying at the door
and uh...
seventy three when i came to eleven
there with the people who have been falling microglia including interviewing
and others local market haitian
there was a bit cooler
do well in fact i had novak i think that i truly pollute predictable
i got a payment but what i bet you by the way to end up in the like this term
luke
there
id
probably one of the lead director
hamanaka i've ever gone through my entire life
really difficult
they we'll get popular here in the concrete pat you and will only be
expected to get one way that you've never done before
that's a synthesized i didn't go through that at all it is i think it's on the
difference allegory
well about has made by mad with the design actual literal ten minute
audition where they just throw everything at you and then see how
you're doing data cleanup walkable areas
and i probably can't camera probability picnic
recruitment marie cocco if you don't talk about the contract
that everybody had thing you know it would
lead
it would not
it looked like there were the crane p_m_ data book movie euclid ever come up with
and put them in the big that you know in terms of
politic and war but then and
where there are banking south america you know that
the product that you and you have to at the ground the edco
you haven't quite handle on what you're talking about
and into electrified no i didn't know what i was talking about that
i think
at that period and i think cult-like you know i would think that the role of the
country because i'm doling typical economy are along that would ban
unimportant but then i think i'd be better locally before that market thirty
four
and at that buckingham dot but on the twenty he went to really
in the back row autoimmune they would look for a time for me to figure out
like that
now we're making here
you know how to live eight similarly
we're going to have a very different from the half-hour recap
with a cut them to you
yes ma'am
and right now i will live in
would be glad to look at that
i think that that stories in some ways reassuring to people because you know
the really run you through the ringer spend your whole story ideas just
people's releasing perspective he had to do every
nuts and bolts of
you know of t_v_ and whether it's a
the operating the camera edited cetera
so that when you get to where you are
it says to the complete package and let the p_r_i_ directly to the people who
work there
beget imagine i show up ceo myself and i'm like or they should be pretty
they're trying to get that that particular election the i didn't get the
because i heard adequate added an editor and want this shop that way i know i
love to talk with her
however every step of my show
i'm
micromanaging pain
and my mom on the air what people can thiet i'm doing fine language to my
collector
wearing their that and he weighed on the paper were selling a demonstration but i
can't here are the people
shouting
hambrecht or to that but i'm not feeling that while ron in the background
or and car that camera guy
you know i'm wrapping up here aleph or shot on my paper i come out because i've
got something prophetic
particularly i couldn't get drunk or armor
location do her job it will be lowered
right
spice today so we got a new backgrounds this is the great conversations
to tell everybody when when they can watch on msn
i've i've everyday at noon eastern nine p anti-gay empathetic private and don't
forget
candidate epic battle choke on camera declare victory alec
prom from i think it's important
illegally
intern primal ending getting computer that he can contact with the content
during our time afternoon friday evening
so i just add something so much for joining us as we love it
cokie i think it'd be a lot the hard at excellent