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solace knew there was a bit in any evidence or certainly enough evidence of
weapons of mass destruction before the rack war
that would be me for example
but others claim that it was a quart slam dunk
well most questionable source of information on iraq was a guy that it
was so shady they call them curve ball
his an iraqi defector we're told investigators the saddam hussein had
secret biological weapons program
and guess what he's now quite limited
here's what current walt told the guardian quote
he gave me this chance i'm sorry baby this chance
by the chairs the fabric is something to topple saddam sirji
curb all originally told a story to german intelligence officials
well before the rack were started
and they knew he was for a little bit and they didn't care what he said or
what he had to say and also what i watch who wanted information bogus or not
now listen to a curve ball says about that
the german intelligence new wing two thousand that i was lying
after they talk to my former boss doctor bussy lucky
who told them there were no mobile weapons factories by weapons factories
that all the sudden in the run-up to the two thousand three mission
they came back to me s are asking for more details about what i told them
i still don't know why they then pass on my information for the c_i_a_
edit ended up in palos speech
who idon't i know
it's because they needed manufactured evidence right before the war
that was a hard to tell you that
now here's palin two thousand three explaining how the u_s_ news saddam
hussein had mobile production facility that made biological agents
pursuers was an eyewitness
an iraqi chemical engineer who
supervise one of these facilities he actually was present during biological
agent production runs
that would be carballo
backers were pal so this week after her balls admission
the question should be put to the c_i_a_ and the defense intelligence agency ice
allied this wasn't known before the false information was put into the n_ i_
e_ sent the congress the president said of the union address and my february
fifth presentation to the u_s_
now that's a great question an even better question is who nucor ball was
lying
and who didn't
throughout the answer that important question would talk to a man who was
there
retired army colonel larry workers and he served as a chief-of-staff the
secretary of state
colin powell
earl wilkerson our start with this it looked everybody wants to know
then colin powell no
or did he not know when he made that presentation
but there was questionable evidence in that
i live chickens al with george tenet the director of central intelligence and his
intelligence deputy drama glock on
for five days in five nights
hyatt never heard a single word of doubt expressed about what we were told were
four separate sources independently corroborating one another
that prove the existence of mobile biological labs one of which
was an iraqi chemical engineer
who'd actually worked in the labs and had seen an accident occurred that
killed some twelve people confirming that the
ingredients in the labs were lethal that's all we were told and what i found
about found out sense much of what you just reiterated
makes me very angry
that leaves the question of do you think you are flat-out lied to you
i cannot come to any other conclusion especially when i have discovered
that no u_s_ personnel were present when curve ball was interrogated by the
b_n_p_ the german intelligence service
that we accepted that that we haven't had a a a a a head of the european
division for the c_i_a_
tyler drama or
who with the last minute during pals preparation during my preparation
obvious secretary
had told both ten and a lot going
that curve ball might not be reliable that information was never related to
the secretary of state or to me
parts of serious doubts about it now
i think there was some manipulation of this and this material
and and there was some outright lying
so who do you think lied to you
that's an interesting question we also lead to
of the very most integral to this intelligence picture people
from win back from c_i_a_'s bowels if you will know all about weapons of mass
destruction
not just in iraq but elsewhere
we enjoy those people with us i've since learned that one of those people may
have been that they are talking directly to the vice president's office
the *** cheney's office
so he was working for two masters by these people were very convincing data
or after all the experts
they were after all the people whom doctor rice and rich or did you colin
powell and others well pestered
to get the right answers out of it meeting after meeting after meeting at
langley
and these people
gave the information some of which you've reiterated here tonight so who
was lying
who was lying in this whole process or who was caught up in a colossal group
think
there's gotta be some duplicity though there's gotta be some uh... not telling
of the complete truth there
because the secretary of state
was not told a complete truth and this was one of the instances where he was
not
giving the vice president's office manipulated you and secretary powell
imagine speech
absolutely and knowing that colin powell have the credibility knowing that colin
powell was
the most resistant to the war inside the administration
if he makes a case for them they hate making their credibility and then they
set apollo up to take the fall giving us what happened
before i went to langley i got my team together more that things we talked
about was adlai stevenson says speech at the u_n_ during the cuban missile crisis
one of my
team said well why is powell doing this
adlai stevenson was the u_s_ him *** to the u_n_
why isn't he doing that
and i looked and i said that you asked me that question
the only member of this administration within the credibility is colin powell
he's got poll ratings like mother teresa
they're using it
one last question for you know and what you know now back or ball another
evidence
would you say uh... said we should not go to war in iraq
that's a different question altogether uh... i will say this i'd believe had
curve ball not even existed
had we not have the intelligence picture we had we still have gone to war with
iraq because george w_ bush indication anywhere absolutely intent to do so
colonel wilkerson we thank you very much for your honesty tonight
we appreciate you joining us
thanks for having me