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. >> MEFR NIPD WHAT'S GOING ON IN
>> MEFR NIPD WHAT'S GOING ON IN WASHINGTON.
WASHINGTON. WE HAVE SPENDING ISSUES RIGHT
WE HAVE SPENDING ISSUES RIGHT HERE IN ARIZONA.
HERE IN ARIZONA. >> WITH THE BUDGET CARRY-FORWARD
>> WITH THE BUDGET CARRY-FORWARD THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE SOME
THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE SOME MONEY THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL,
MONEY THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL, GEE, THAT'S UNALLOCATED.
GEE, THAT'S UNALLOCATED. IT IS ALLOCATED.
IT IS ALLOCATED. IT'S ALLOCATED THROUGHOUT YEARS,
IT'S ALLOCATED THROUGHOUT YEARS, BUT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SPEND A
BUT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF THAT MONEY.
LOT OF THAT MONEY. >> WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO
>> WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE TO FILL IN SOME OF THE
MAKE SURE TO FILL IN SOME OF THE BIG, DEEP HOLES THAT HAVE BEEN,
BIG, DEEP HOLES THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, DUG IN OUR VARIOUS
YOU KNOW, DUG IN OUR VARIOUS AGENCIES IN ORDER FOR THEM TO AT
AGENCIES IN ORDER FOR THEM TO AT LEAST COME UP TO JUST BASIC
LEAST COME UP TO JUST BASIC LEVELS OF, YOU KNOW, INFLATION
LEVELS OF, YOU KNOW, INFLATION RATES?
RATES? >> TONIGHT ON "ARIZONA WEEK" A
>> TONIGHT ON "ARIZONA WEEK" A BRIEFING ON THE 2013 LEGISLATIVE
BRIEFING ON THE 2013 LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THE EXPECTED
SESSION AND THE EXPECTED REIGNING OVER STATE SPENDING.
REIGNING OVER STATE SPENDING. >> PRODUCTION OF ARIZONA WEEK IS
>> PRODUCTION OF ARIZONA WEEK IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PARTS BY A
MADE POSSIBLE IN PARTS BY A GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL
GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF
FOUNDATION AND BY THE MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
SUPPORT. >>> THE LUN THE FEDERAL
>>> THE LUN THE FEDERAL PICTURE -- STATE REVENUES IN THE
PICTURE -- STATE REVENUES IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS HAVE OUTPACED
LAST 18 MONTHS HAVE OUTPACED SPENDING BY UPWARDS OF $1
SPENDING BY UPWARDS OF $1 BILLION.
BILLION. THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WILL
THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WILL BEGIN IN TEN DAYS AND THE BIG
BEGIN IN TEN DAYS AND THE BIG QUESTION IS THE STATE FISCALLY
QUESTION IS THE STATE FISCALLY SOUND ENOUGH TO RESTORE CUTS TO
SOUND ENOUGH TO RESTORE CUTS TO EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND
EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND OTHER CRITICAL NEEDS?
OTHER CRITICAL NEEDS? HERE'S WHAT TWO SENATE LEADERS
HERE'S WHAT TWO SENATE LEADERS AND TWO JOURNALISTS HAD TO SAY.
AND TWO JOURNALISTS HAD TO SAY. >> ARIZONA SENATE PRESIDENT ANDY
>> ARIZONA SENATE PRESIDENT ANDY BIGS, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING
BIGS, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME.
WITH ME. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. APPRECIATE IT.
APPRECIATE IT. >> THE BIG ISSUE IN THE COMING
>> THE BIG ISSUE IN THE COMING SESSION WILL, OF COURSE, BE THE
SESSION WILL, OF COURSE, BE THE BUDGET.
BUDGET. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING WITH THAT.
SEE HAPPENING WITH THAT. >> WELL, WHAT WE FACE IN THE
>> WELL, WHAT WE FACE IN THE BUDGET WE FACE A NUMBER OF
BUDGET WE FACE A NUMBER OF THINGS.
THINGS. WE'RE DOING THREE-YEAR BUDGETING
WE'RE DOING THREE-YEAR BUDGETING NOW, WHICH I THINK IS A
NOW, WHICH I THINK IS A MARVELOUS MOVE, AND WE KNOW THAT
MARVELOUS MOVE, AND WE KNOW THAT IN 2016 WE HAVE SOME HOLES TO
IN 2016 WE HAVE SOME HOLES TO FILL BECAUSE THE ACA WILL BE
FILL BECAUSE THE ACA WILL BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED BY THAT TIME,
FULLY IMPLEMENTED BY THAT TIME, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME
SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS FOR THAT.
ADJUSTMENTS FOR THAT. >> ACA, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
>> ACA, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. >> THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
>> THAT IS CORRECT, YES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. WE HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT
WE HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT WILL IMPACT US WITH THE BUDGET
WILL IMPACT US WITH THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
THIS YEAR. THINGS SUCH AS DO WE DO THE
THINGS SUCH AS DO WE DO THE MEDICAID EXPANSION FOR PROP 204
MEDICAID EXPANSION FOR PROP 204 POPULATION OR NOT?
POPULATION OR NOT? WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE?
WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE? AS YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY
AS YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY RECEIVED GUIDANCE FROM THE
RECEIVED GUIDANCE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY'RE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ARIZONA THE
NOT GOING TO GIVE ARIZONA THE ENHANCED MAGISTRATE WHICH MEANS
ENHANCED MAGISTRATE WHICH MEANS IT WILL COST US MORE WERE WE TO
IT WILL COST US MORE WERE WE TO EXPAND MEDICAID POPULATION.
EXPAND MEDICAID POPULATION. >> TO THE 100% MARK?
>> TO THE 100% MARK? >> TO THE 100% MARK.
>> TO THE 100% MARK. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THAT ISSUE THAT WILL
SO WE HAVE THAT ISSUE THAT WILL DEFINITELY AFFECT THE BUDGET.
DEFINITELY AFFECT THE BUDGET. BECAUSE WE MADE SOME PLANS FOR
BECAUSE WE MADE SOME PLANS FOR 15 AND 16 FALL-OFFS, WE HAVE
15 AND 16 FALL-OFFS, WE HAVE BUDGET CARRY-FORWARDS, AND WITH
BUDGET CARRY-FORWARDS, AND WITH THE BUDGET CARRY-FORWARD, THAT
THE BUDGET CARRY-FORWARD, THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE SOME MONEY
MEANS THAT YOU HAVE SOME MONEY THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL, GEE,
THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL, GEE, THAT'S UNALLOCATED.
THAT'S UNALLOCATED. IT IS ALLOCATED.
IT IS ALLOCATED. IT'S ALLOCATED FOR OUT YEARS,
IT'S ALLOCATED FOR OUT YEARS, BUT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SPEND A
BUT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF THAT MONEY IN 2014, SO
LOT OF THAT MONEY IN 2014, SO YOU'LL KR THAT SUGGEST OF WAR
YOU'LL KR THAT SUGGEST OF WAR THAT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SPEND.
THAT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SPEND. OTHERS WILL SAY WAIT WE HAVE
OTHERS WILL SAY WAIT WE HAVE SOME ISSUES AHEAD.
SOME ISSUES AHEAD. YOU SEE THOSE TUG-OF-WARS.
YOU SEE THOSE TUG-OF-WARS. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW ONE OF
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW ONE OF THE TUG-OF-WARS MIGHT GO.
THE TUG-OF-WARS MIGHT GO. WE'LL COME BACK TO MEDICAID IN A
WE'LL COME BACK TO MEDICAID IN A MINUTE.
MINUTE. FIRST TO EDUCATION.
FIRST TO EDUCATION. THERE WILL BE PRESSURE, WE
THERE WILL BE PRESSURE, WE ASSUME, WITH THE EXPIRATION OF
ASSUME, WITH THE EXPIRATION OF THE TEMPORARY SALES TAX FOR THE
THE TEMPORARY SALES TAX FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO LOOK AT A WAY TO
LEGISLATURE TO LOOK AT A WAY TO ADD SOME MONEY.
ADD SOME MONEY. DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN?
DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN? >> IF YOU'RE ASKING IS THERE
>> IF YOU'RE ASKING IS THERE PRESSURE?
PRESSURE? YEAH, THERE WILL BE SOME
YEAH, THERE WILL BE SOME PRESSURE THERE TO FIND DIFFERENT
PRESSURE THERE TO FIND DIFFERENT AVENUES TO FUND EDUCATION.
AVENUES TO FUND EDUCATION. ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY. >> AND HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO
>> AND HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT AT THIS POINT?
THAT AT THIS POINT? IS IT TOO SOON TO SAY BECAUSE
IS IT TOO SOON TO SAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT
YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE FACING?
YOU'RE GOING TO BE FACING? >> I THINK THAT'S -- THAT IS
>> I THINK THAT'S -- THAT IS REALLY TOO EARLY TO SAY HOW MUCH
REALLY TOO EARLY TO SAY HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN PUT THERE.
MONEY WE CAN PUT THERE. I CAN IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE GOING
I CAN IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE GOING ON SEE SOME MONEY GO THERE.
ON SEE SOME MONEY GO THERE. HOW WILL WE DO IT?
HOW WILL WE DO IT? LAST YEAR WE HAD $50 MILLION AND
LAST YEAR WE HAD $50 MILLION AND SOME ODD DOLLARS.
SOME ODD DOLLARS. WE PUT IT IN A STRUCTURED
WE PUT IT IN A STRUCTURED ACCOUNTABILITY PROGRAM SO WE CAN
ACCOUNTABILITY PROGRAM SO WE CAN FOCUS ON SOME AREAS THAT WE
FOCUS ON SOME AREAS THAT WE REALLY ARE CONCERNED WITH, LIKE
REALLY ARE CONCERNED WITH, LIKE K3 READING PROGRAMS.
K3 READING PROGRAMS. WE WANTED ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE WANTED ACCOUNTABILITY. THAT TENDS TO BE WHERE PEOPLE
THAT TENDS TO BE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO GO.
WANT TO GO. LET'S GET MORE MONEY, BUT LET'S
LET'S GET MORE MONEY, BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DIRECT IT TO A
SEE IF WE CAN DIRECT IT TO A SPECIFIC NEED.
SPECIFIC NEED. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES TIED TO
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES TIED TO THAT FUNDING.
THAT FUNDING. >> WELL, IN THAT REGARD, THE
>> WELL, IN THAT REGARD, THE GOVERNOR IS PUSHING HER
GOVERNOR IS PUSHING HER EDUCATION REFORM MEASURES OVER
EDUCATION REFORM MEASURES OVER THE COURSE OF HER TERM, AND SOME
THE COURSE OF HER TERM, AND SOME OF THOSE MEASURES REQUIRE SOME
OF THOSE MEASURES REQUIRE SOME SPENDING.
SPENDING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE K3 READING
FOR EXAMPLE, THE K3 READING PROGRAM.
PROGRAM. BUT TEACHER ACCOUNTABILITY AND
BUT TEACHER ACCOUNTABILITY AND SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT ALSO REQUIRE
SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT ALSO REQUIRE MORE FUNDING.
MORE FUNDING. IS THAT AT LEAST WHAT THE
IS THAT AT LEAST WHAT THE ADVOCATES SAY AND EVEN THE
ADVOCATES SAY AND EVEN THE GOVERNOR SAYS THAT.
GOVERNOR SAYS THAT. DO THOSE GET FUNDED THIS YEAR,
DO THOSE GET FUNDED THIS YEAR, OR IS THAT A LONG-TERM THING?
OR IS THAT A LONG-TERM THING? >> WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT
I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT. ARIZONA HAS ONE OF THE MOST
ARIZONA HAS ONE OF THE MOST BYZANTINEK12 FUNDING.
BYZANTINEK12 FUNDING. YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF LITTLE
YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF LITTLE POPS OF FUNDING THAT GO HERE AND
POPS OF FUNDING THAT GO HERE AND THERE, AND ACTUALLY IT CAN BIND
THERE, AND ACTUALLY IT CAN BIND THE DISTRICTS -- OR PREVENT THEM
THE DISTRICTS -- OR PREVENT THEM FROM USING THAT MONEY TO ITS
FROM USING THAT MONEY TO ITS FULLEST SOMETIMES.
FULLEST SOMETIMES. IT ALSO PREVENTS IN SOME
IT ALSO PREVENTS IN SOME INSTANCE THAT IS MONEY FROM
INSTANCE THAT IS MONEY FROM GETTING TO THE CLASSROOM, WHICH
GETTING TO THE CLASSROOM, WHICH IS AWAY WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING
IS AWAY WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT.
ABOUT. HOW DO YOU GET CLASSROOM
HOW DO YOU GET CLASSROOM DOLLARS?
DOLLARS? HOW DO YOU GET TEACHERS'
HOW DO YOU GET TEACHERS' SALARIES?
SALARIES? HOW DO YOU GET THE EQUIPMENT AND
HOW DO YOU GET THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SUPPLIES THAT WE NEED IN THE
THE SUPPLIES THAT WE NEED IN THE CLASSROOM?
CLASSROOM? I KNOW THAT THERE ARE EFFORTS
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE EFFORTS UNDERWAY TO LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT
UNDERWAY TO LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT MAYBE RESTRUCTURE SOME OF THE
MAYBE RESTRUCTURE SOME OF THE FUNDING -- SOME OF THE FUNDING
FUNDING -- SOME OF THE FUNDING MODEL THAT WE HAVE IN ARIZONA.
MODEL THAT WE HAVE IN ARIZONA. THAT'S ONE THING.
THAT'S ONE THING. THE OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION
THE OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS ACTUALLY HOW MUCH MONEY AND
IS ACTUALLY HOW MUCH MONEY AND IF THEY'RE GETTING TO THAT -- I
IF THEY'RE GETTING TO THAT -- I THINK IT'S JUST TOO EARLY TO
THINK IT'S JUST TOO EARLY TO SAY.
SAY. WE'RE SIX, SEVEN MONTHS AWAY
WE'RE SIX, SEVEN MONTHS AWAY FROM THE START OF THAT -- THE
FROM THE START OF THAT -- THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE ARE TREEING TO DETERMINE
WE ARE TREEING TO DETERMINE WHICH WAY WE ARE EVEN TRENDING
WHICH WAY WE ARE EVEN TRENDING AS FAR AS STATE REVENUE, AND
AS FAR AS STATE REVENUE, AND SOME OF THE LAST LITTLE BIT
SOME OF THE LAST LITTLE BIT WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY FLAT OR
WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY FLAT OR SLIGHTLY DOWN.
SLIGHTLY DOWN. WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING
WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE AT THE END OF TO 2013
TO BE LIKE AT THE END OF TO 2013 AND HOW MUCH WILL CARRY FORWARD
AND HOW MUCH WILL CARRY FORWARD BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE KIND OF
BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE KIND OF COMMITMENTS.
COMMITMENTS. >> NOW BACK TO MEDICAID, WHICH
>> NOW BACK TO MEDICAID, WHICH YOU TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IN
YOU TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IN THE FEDERAL DECISION THAT
THE FEDERAL DECISION THAT ARIZONA CANNOT MAKE WHOLE AGAIN
ARIZONA CANNOT MAKE WHOLE AGAIN THE CHILDLESS ADULTS WHO ARE AT
THE CHILDLESS ADULTS WHO ARE AT 100% OF POVERTY.
100% OF POVERTY. AT THE 85% RATE, WHICH IS
AT THE 85% RATE, WHICH IS ALLOWED UNDER THE AFFORDABLE
ALLOWED UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
CARE ACT. IF YOU GO TO THE 133% OF A LOT
IF YOU GO TO THE 133% OF A LOT OF NUMBERS HERE THAT MIGHT BE
OF NUMBERS HERE THAT MIGHT BE CONFUSI
CONFUSI CONFUSING, BUT THE 133% OF THE
CONFUSING, BUT THE 133% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY RATE THAT THE
FEDERAL POVERTY RATE THAT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WILL ALLOW
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WILL ALLOW STATES TO COVER.
STATES TO COVER. AGAIN, VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS
AGAIN, VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS BUT WHAT'S YOUR THINKING AT THIS
BUT WHAT'S YOUR THINKING AT THIS POINT ABOUT THAT?
POINT ABOUT THAT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I'M
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF ON MOST OF
SPEAKING FOR MYSELF ON MOST OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU WORK
THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU WORK WITH THE CAUCUS AND THE BODY AND
WITH THE CAUCUS AND THE BODY AND THEN HAVE YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO
THEN HAVE YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
ACCOUNT. MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IS THE
MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IS THE FOLLOWING.
FOLLOWING. WE KNOW THAT IF YOU GO 133%
WE KNOW THAT IF YOU GO 133% FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL, THAT
FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL, THAT THAT'S ABOUT $150 MILLION HIT TO
THAT'S ABOUT $150 MILLION HIT TO THE STATE'S GENERAL FUND.
THE STATE'S GENERAL FUND. IF WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN -- IF WE
IF WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN -- IF WE WOULD HAVE GONE 100% LEVEL AND
WOULD HAVE GONE 100% LEVEL AND GOT THE ENHANCED MATCH RATE,
GOT THE ENHANCED MATCH RATE, THAT WOULD BE HAVE BEEN $150
THAT WOULD BE HAVE BEEN $150 MILLION HIT.
MILLION HIT. IF WE GO TO 100% AND WE --
IF WE GO TO 100% AND WE -- BECAUSE OF THE -- WE'RE NOT
BECAUSE OF THE -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE ENHANCED RATE,
GOING TO GET THE ENHANCED RATE, THAT MEANS THE HIT TO THE
THAT MEANS THE HIT TO THE GENERAL FUND IS ABOUT $415
GENERAL FUND IS ABOUT $415 MILLION, SO YOU HAVE A
MILLION, SO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $250
DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $250 MILLION, $265 MILLION THERE.
MILLION, $265 MILLION THERE. THAT'S ENORMOUS IN A BUDGET THE
THAT'S ENORMOUS IN A BUDGET THE SIZE OF OURS WITH THE
SIZE OF OURS WITH THE CONSTRAINTS WE ALREADY HAVE ON
CONSTRAINTS WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE GENERAL FUND.
THE GENERAL FUND. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE --
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE -- THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE ISSUE IS NOW
GOING TO BE A HUGE ISSUE IS NOW YOU CAN'T SAY, WELL, THE FEDS
YOU CAN'T SAY, WELL, THE FEDS CAN'T GET THIS ENHANCED MATCH
CAN'T GET THIS ENHANCED MATCH RATE SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND
RATE SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START BRINGING ON PEOPLE AND WE
START BRINGING ON PEOPLE AND WE CAN MAYBE ABSORB SOME OF THAT.
CAN MAYBE ABSORB SOME OF THAT. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW IS YOU'RE
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW IS YOU'RE ALMOST HAVING TO PIT -- IT'S
ALMOST HAVING TO PIT -- IT'S $200 MILLION AND SOME ODD
$200 MILLION AND SOME ODD DOLLARS THERE.
DOLLARS THERE. YOU'RE ALMOST HAVE TO PIT IT
YOU'RE ALMOST HAVE TO PIT IT AGAINST, WELL, ARE WE -- DO WE
AGAINST, WELL, ARE WE -- DO WE END UP CUTTING INTO K12
END UP CUTTING INTO K12 EDUCATION BY DOING THAT?
EDUCATION BY DOING THAT? WHAT WE CAN DO FOR EDUCATION OR
WHAT WE CAN DO FOR EDUCATION OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM, FOR INSTANCE.
ANY OTHER PROGRAM, FOR INSTANCE. >> IT WILL BE WHAT WE'RE GOING
>> IT WILL BE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING
TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF SOME CRITICAL AREAS.
CARE OF SOME CRITICAL AREAS. CERTAINLY I KNOW TO MY CAUCUS
CERTAINLY I KNOW TO MY CAUCUS AND INDIVIDUALS AROUND THE STATE
AND INDIVIDUALS AROUND THE STATE AS IT RELATES TO EDUCATION AND,
AS IT RELATES TO EDUCATION AND, YOU KNOW, THE DEEP CUTS THAT
YOU KNOW, THE DEEP CUTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN EDUCATION OVER THE
WE'VE HAD IN EDUCATION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND IT'S GOING
LAST FEW YEARS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THAT WE NEED TO DO
TO BE THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUT WITH
SOMETHING TO HELP OUT WITH WHAT'S GOING WITH EVENING OUT
WHAT'S GOING WITH EVENING OUT THE PLAYING FIELD IN THE ARENA
THE PLAYING FIELD IN THE ARENA OF EDUCATION.
OF EDUCATION. ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BIG
ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BIG DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO
DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO HEALTH CARE AND, YOU KNOW, THE
HEALTH CARE AND, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE CRISIS THAT'S GOING TO GO
WHOLE CRISIS THAT'S GOING TO GO ON WITH THAT.
ON WITH THAT. EVEN WHAT'S GOING TO BE
EVEN WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING WITH OUR PATIENTS THAT
HAPPENING WITH OUR PATIENTS THAT ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON ACCESS OR
ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON ACCESS OR CONSUMERS THAT ARE ON ACCESS.
CONSUMERS THAT ARE ON ACCESS. WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE GOING TO
WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE GOING TO GO WITH THAT, AND IT'S TRULY
GO WITH THAT, AND IT'S TRULY GOING TO NECESSITATE THAT WE
GOING TO NECESSITATE THAT WE COME UP WITH A PLAN, OR WE'RE
COME UP WITH A PLAN, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOUSANDS OF
GOING TO HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE WITHOUT
PEOPLE THAT WILL BE WITHOUT HEALTH CARE, AND THAT'S JUST
HEALTH CARE, AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO ME THAT IS
SOMETHING TO ME THAT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. THOSE THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO
THOSE THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD HEALTH CARE AND IT'S OUR
AFFORD HEALTH CARE AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT
RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IF PEOPLE HAVE THINGS LIKE THEIR
IF PEOPLE HAVE THINGS LIKE THEIR EDUCATION, THEIR HEALTH AND
EDUCATION, THEIR HEALTH AND WELFARE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, THOSE
WELFARE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, THOSE SHOULD BE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD
SHOULD BE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD NATURALLY WANT TO PROTECT.
NATURALLY WANT TO PROTECT. >> NOW, THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE
>> NOW, THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE A STRONGER CAUCUS, A BIGGER
A STRONGER CAUCUS, A BIGGER CAUCUS THIS TIME ROUND WITH FOUR
CAUCUS THIS TIME ROUND WITH FOUR ADDED MEMBERS SO THE REPUBLICAN
ADDED MEMBERS SO THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, STILL A MAJORITY, BUT
MAJORITY, STILL A MAJORITY, BUT SMALLER, DO YOU EXPECT TO BE
SMALLER, DO YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE INFLUENCE?
ABLE TO HAVE MORE INFLUENCE? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HAVING NOW 13 IN THE
NUMBERS HAVING NOW 13 IN THE CAUCUS, IT MAKES A TREMENDOUS
CAUCUS, IT MAKES A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE.
DIFFERENCE. I WAS HERE WHEN WE HAD NINE, AND
I WAS HERE WHEN WE HAD NINE, AND WE SAW THAT IT WAS MORE OF A
WE SAW THAT IT WAS MORE OF A RACE FOR THE PENNANT AND TRYING
RACE FOR THE PENNANT AND TRYING TO GET OUR ISSUES AND OUR POINTS
TO GET OUR ISSUES AND OUR POINTS OUT THERE.
OUT THERE. WE HAD NINE, BUT NOW THAT WE
WE HAD NINE, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE 13, IT REALLY PUTS US IN A
HAVE 13, IT REALLY PUTS US IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN WORK
SITUATION WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TOGETHER AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND TRULY
TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND TRULY COME UP WITH.
COME UP WITH. >> WE WERE ABLE TO GAUGE FOUR
>> WE WERE ABLE TO GAUGE FOUR SEATS.
SEATS. IT WAS EVIDENT THAT IT WAS TIME
IT WAS EVIDENT THAT IT WAS TIME TO HAVE MORE OF A RESPECTFUL
TO HAVE MORE OF A RESPECTFUL NATURE HERE IN OUR LEGISLATIVE
NATURE HERE IN OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK
BODY AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. >> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
>> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE
SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE BUDGET.
BUDGET. FIRST OF ALL, REVENUES ARE
FIRST OF ALL, REVENUES ARE RUNNING AHEAD OF PROJECTIONS
RUNNING AHEAD OF PROJECTIONS SLIGHTLY.
SLIGHTLY. THERE HAS BEEN SOME SOFTENING
THERE HAS BEEN SOME SOFTENING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AS REPORTED BY THE JOINT
AS REPORTED BY THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
LEGISLATIVE BUDGET COMMITTEE. DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE THE
DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE THE LEGISLATURE MAKING ANY
LEGISLATURE MAKING ANY ADJUSTMENTS IN SPENDING BEFORE
ADJUSTMENTS IN SPENDING BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR?
THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? >> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS,
>> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, QUITE FRANKLY, AND IT'S VERY
QUITE FRANKLY, AND IT'S VERY EARLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
EARLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILS OF A BUDGET.
THE DETAILS OF A BUDGET. WE KNOW THAT, BUT AT THE SAME
WE KNOW THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE IN ORDER TO
THE WHOLE PICTURE IN ORDER TO SEE WHICH DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING
SEE WHICH DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING IN.
IN. I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT, YOU
I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR NUMBERS ARE HIGHER
KNOW, OUR NUMBERS ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PREDICTED,
THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PREDICTED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHAT'S
BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT
GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT SURPLUS THAT IS THERE.
SURPLUS THAT IS THERE. SOME MAY VIEW IT AS A SURPLUS.
SOME MAY VIEW IT AS A SURPLUS. SOME OF US MAY LOOK AT IT AS
SOME OF US MAY LOOK AT IT AS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE VERY STEEP CUTS THAT HAVE
VERY STEEP CUTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE LAST
HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE LAST FISCAL CYCLE, THE FISCAL BUDGET
FISCAL CYCLE, THE FISCAL BUDGET CYCLE.
CYCLE. WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, I
WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT CPS HAS A BIG
MEAN, WE KNOW THAT CPS HAS A BIG NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT
NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S REVENUE COMING BACK TO
THERE'S REVENUE COMING BACK TO CPS, SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW,
CPS, SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE CASE WORKERS THAT ARE
HAVE MORE CASE WORKERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
OUT THERE. AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU
AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE MILLIONS THAT HAVE
KNOW, THE MILLIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF EDUCATION THE
BEEN TAKEN OUT OF EDUCATION THE LAST FEW YEARS.
LAST FEW YEARS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WHAT ARE
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE TO
WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE TO FILL IN SOME OF THE BIG DEEP
FILL IN SOME OF THE BIG DEEP HOLES THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW,
HOLES THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, DUG IN OUR VARIOUS AGENCIES IN
DUG IN OUR VARIOUS AGENCIES IN ORDER FOR THEM TO AT LEAST COME
ORDER FOR THEM TO AT LEAST COME UP TO THE BASIC LEVELS OF, YOU
UP TO THE BASIC LEVELS OF, YOU KNOW, INFLATION RATES.
KNOW, INFLATION RATES. WE'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT
WE'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT.
THAT. WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT GETTING
WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT GETTING THE MATCHED UP TO JUST NUMBERS
THE MATCHED UP TO JUST NUMBERS BACK FROM 2010.
BACK FROM 2010. YOU KNOW, TO EVEN OUT AND TRY
YOU KNOW, TO EVEN OUT AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE IN A
TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE IN A DIRECTION TO HELP US OUT
DIRECTION TO HELP US OUT FISCALLY.
FISCALLY. LOOKING AT THAT ENTIRE PICTURE
LOOKING AT THAT ENTIRE PICTURE OF WHERE SOME OF THE REVENUES
OF WHERE SOME OF THE REVENUES THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK
THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH, WE'VE GOT TO KNOW WHAT
WITH, WE'VE GOT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
WE'RE WORKING WITH. CLEARLY.
CLEARLY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE WE HAVE THE DETAILS OF
BEFORE WE HAVE THE DETAILS OF THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD.
THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD. ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THOSE CONCRETE
ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THOSE CONCRETE FIGURES ARE -- HOW THAT IS GOING
FIGURES ARE -- HOW THAT IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. >> SOME REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY
>> SOME REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT A STATUS QUO
TALKING ABOUT A STATUS QUO BUDGET.
BUDGET. AGAIN, JUST AS AN IDEA BECAUSE
AGAIN, JUST AS AN IDEA BECAUSE OF THE SOFT ECONOMY AS IT
OF THE SOFT ECONOMY AS IT CONTINUES.
CONTINUES. DO YOU SEE THAT PLAYING OUT, AND
DO YOU SEE THAT PLAYING OUT, AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN SPECIFICALLY
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN SPECIFICALLY TO EDUCATION SPENDING UNDER SUCH
TO EDUCATION SPENDING UNDER SUCH A SCENARIO?
A SCENARIO? >> WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT A
>> WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT A STATUS QUO, QUITE FRANKLY, WE
STATUS QUO, QUITE FRANKLY, WE HAVE DONE SOME, AGAIN,
HAVE DONE SOME, AGAIN, SIGNIFICANT CUTS OVER THE LAST
SIGNIFICANT CUTS OVER THE LAST YEAR.
YEAR. IT'S HURT.
IT'S HURT. WE'VE GOTTEN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO
WE'VE GOTTEN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BONE WHERE WE'VE CUT.
THE BONE WHERE WE'VE CUT. WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, WE CAN
WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, WE CAN NOT CONTINUE TO GO IN THAT
NOT CONTINUE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
DIRECTION. I SEE WHERE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH
I SEE WHERE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH ELIMINATION OF SOFT CAPITAL AND
ELIMINATION OF SOFT CAPITAL AND BUDGET CYCLES BEFORE, WOULD
BUDGET CYCLES BEFORE, WOULD WE'RE NOT HAVING CLASSROOMS THAT
WE'RE NOT HAVING CLASSROOMS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE WHAT THEY
ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE WHAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THE
NEED IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF PROPERLY EDUCATING
BUSINESS OF PROPERLY EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN.
OUR CHILDREN. GETTING THEM PREPARED FOR THE
GETTING THEM PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE.
FUTURE. QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T REALLY
QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW BUSINESS -- THE BUSINESS
SEE HOW BUSINESS -- THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY COULD EVEN WANT THIS
COMMUNITY COULD EVEN WANT THIS TO BE THE CASE.
TO BE THE CASE. IF WE'RE HAVING A SITUATION OF
IF WE'RE HAVING A SITUATION OF WANTING TO INCREASE OUR
WANTING TO INCREASE OUR BUSINESSES, WANTING TO HAVE
BUSINESSES, WANTING TO HAVE BUSINESSES BE -- TO STAY HERE IN
BUSINESSES BE -- TO STAY HERE IN OUR STATE AND NEW BUSINESSES TO
OUR STATE AND NEW BUSINESSES TO BE ATTRACTED, WE'RE GOING TO
BE ATTRACTED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE OUR EDUCATION
HAVE TO INCREASE OUR EDUCATION TOOL, OUR BRAIN TRUST, AND THAT
TOOL, OUR BRAIN TRUST, AND THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE CASE.
IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE CASE. >> YOU KNOW, WITH THE WHOLE
>> YOU KNOW, WITH THE WHOLE MEDICAID EXPANSION, AGAIN, WHEN
MEDICAID EXPANSION, AGAIN, WHEN I SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE
I SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE EXCHANGE AND THEN THE MEDICAID
EXCHANGE AND THEN THE MEDICAID EXPANSION, TO ME IT'S APPLES AND
EXPANSION, TO ME IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES.
ORANGES. THE MEDICAID EXPANSION, THAT'S A
THE MEDICAID EXPANSION, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO, SO YOU
WHOLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO, SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH THING
HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH THING WANTING AT A TIME.
WANTING AT A TIME. NOW, WITH THE MEDICAID
NOW, WITH THE MEDICAID EXPANSION, WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
EXPANSION, WE HAVE TO DO THAT. THAT IS JUST TO ME -- THAT IS
THAT IS JUST TO ME -- THAT IS JUST SOMETHING I FEEL IS
JUST SOMETHING I FEEL IS EXTREMELY NECESSARY.
EXTREMELY NECESSARY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE
THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE NO -- HAVE NO ACCESS AND NO
NO -- HAVE NO ACCESS AND NO OTHER WAY OF GETTING HEALTH
OTHER WAY OF GETTING HEALTH CARE, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
CARE, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MEDICALLY NEEDY.
MEDICALLY NEEDY. WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, THE
WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, THE DISCUSSION NEEDS TO START NOW.
DISCUSSION NEEDS TO START NOW. WE REALLY HAVE TO START THE
WE REALLY HAVE TO START THE DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD HAVE
DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED YESTERDAY AS FAR AS
HAPPENED YESTERDAY AS FAR AS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING
WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING REGARDING SERVING THOSE
REGARDING SERVING THOSE POPULATIONS.
POPULATIONS. WE CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE WITH
WE CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE WITH THE CHILDLESS ADULT POPULATION,
THE CHILDLESS ADULT POPULATION, THOSE THAT HAVE CHRONIC
THOSE THAT HAVE CHRONIC ILLNESSES OR WILL GET CHRONIC
ILLNESSES OR WILL GET CHRONIC ILLNESSES IF THEY DO NOT GET THE
ILLNESSES IF THEY DO NOT GET THE PREVENTIVE CARE GOING FORWARD.
PREVENTIVE CARE GOING FORWARD. >> HOW WILL IT PLAY OUT AND HOW
>> HOW WILL IT PLAY OUT AND HOW WILL THE STILL STRONG BUT LESS
WILL THE STILL STRONG BUT LESS DOMINANT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY
DOMINANT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY HOLD UP?
HOLD UP? FOR ANALYSIS I SPOKE WITH
FOR ANALYSIS I SPOKE WITH LEGISLATIVE REPORTERS MARY JOE
LEGISLATIVE REPORTERS MARY JOE OF THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND
OF THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND LUIZI OF THE ARIZONA CAPITAL
LUIZI OF THE ARIZONA CAPITAL TIMES.
TIMES. >> MARY JOE, NEW DYNAMIC IN THE
>> MARY JOE, NEW DYNAMIC IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE, A SHIFT IN
STATE LEGISLATURE, A SHIFT IN THE NUMBERS.
THE NUMBERS. REPUBLICANS STILL IN MAJORITY,
REPUBLICANS STILL IN MAJORITY, BUT SMALLER.
BUT SMALLER. WHAT DIFFERENCE WILL THAT MAKE?
WHAT DIFFERENCE WILL THAT MAKE? >> IT'S WIDELY BELIEVED THAT THE
>> IT'S WIDELY BELIEVED THAT THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE SMALLER
DIFFERENCE WITH THE SMALLER NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS COMPARED
NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS COMPARED TO DEMOCRATS THAT YOU WILL HAVE
TO DEMOCRATS THAT YOU WILL HAVE PERHAPS MORE ROOM IN THE MIDDLE
PERHAPS MORE ROOM IN THE MIDDLE FOR COMPROMISE AND SOME KIND OF
FOR COMPROMISE AND SOME KIND OF BIPARTISAN.
BIPARTISAN. I'M NOT SURE THAT WILL WORK.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WILL WORK. THE SENATE WILL BE 17
THE SENATE WILL BE 17 REPUBLICANS, 13 DEMOCRATS.
REPUBLICANS, 13 DEMOCRATS. THE HOUSE 36 REPUBLICANS AND 24
THE HOUSE 36 REPUBLICANS AND 24 DEMOCRATS.
DEMOCRATS. IF YOU NEED 16 AND 31 TO PASS A
IF YOU NEED 16 AND 31 TO PASS A BILL, CAN YOU DO THE MATH AND
BILL, CAN YOU DO THE MATH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO HAVE THE MINORITY BE AN
HAVE THE MINORITY BE AN INFLUENCE.
INFLUENCE. CERTAINLY THE DEMOCRATS FEEL
CERTAINLY THE DEMOCRATS FEEL SOMEWHAT EMBOLDENED BY THE
SOMEWHAT EMBOLDENED BY THE ELECTION RESULTS AND FEEL THAT
ELECTION RESULTS AND FEEL THAT THEY WILL MAKE A BIGGER
THEY WILL MAKE A BIGGER DIFFERENCE IN THE NEXT SESSION
DIFFERENCE IN THE NEXT SESSION IN THE LEGISLATURE.
IN THE LEGISLATURE. >> ARE YOU HEARING THAT SAME
>> ARE YOU HEARING THAT SAME THING?
THING? DEMOCRATS FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET
DEMOCRATS FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET SOME THINGS DONE?
SOME THINGS DONE? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK A PREVAILING SENTIMENT
I THINK A PREVAILING SENTIMENT BY DEMOCRATS AND I THINK MANY AT
BY DEMOCRATS AND I THINK MANY AT THE CAPITOL IS BECAUSE OF THE
THE CAPITOL IS BECAUSE OF THE NARROWER SPLIT IN BOTH HOUSES
NARROWER SPLIT IN BOTH HOUSES THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL BE
THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL BE COMPELLED TO REACH OUT TO
COMPELLED TO REACH OUT TO DEMOCRATS, TO GET RESULTS AND
DEMOCRATS, TO GET RESULTS AND WILL FIND WE'LL FIND OUT IF THEY
WILL FIND WE'LL FIND OUT IF THEY WILL NEGOTIATE WITH DEMOCRATS,
WILL NEGOTIATE WITH DEMOCRATS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATE BUDGET, BUT CERTAINLY
THE STATE BUDGET, BUT CERTAINLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OPTIMISTIC
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OPTIMISTIC ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE THAT THE
ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL REACH OUT.
REPUBLICANS WILL REACH OUT. >> AS WE LEAVE THE ERA OF THE
>> AS WE LEAVE THE ERA OF THE SUPER MAJORITY THE LAST TWO
SUPER MAJORITY THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN SUPER MAJORITY
YEARS HAVE BEEN SUPER MAJORITY CONTROLLED BY THE REPUBLICANS.
CONTROLLED BY THE REPUBLICANS. WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH
WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T NEED ALL THOSE
THEY DIDN'T NEED ALL THOSE REPUBLICAN VOTES TO PASS THINGS,
REPUBLICAN VOTES TO PASS THINGS, THEY GENERALLY VOTED TOGETHER
THEY GENERALLY VOTED TOGETHER BECAUSE TO BREAK WITH YOUR
BECAUSE TO BREAK WITH YOUR CAUCUS MAKES YOU AN OUTLIAR THAT
CAUCUS MAKES YOU AN OUTLIAR THAT MIGHT BE CHALLENGEABLE TO THE
MIGHT BE CHALLENGEABLE TO THE PRIMARY ELECTION, SO YOU ALMOST
PRIMARY ELECTION, SO YOU ALMOST GOT MORE OF A HERD INSTINCT WITH
GOT MORE OF A HERD INSTINCT WITH NARROWER MARGINS.
NARROWER MARGINS. THERE IS MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR
THERE IS MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR REPUBLICANS WHO MIGHT HAVE
REPUBLICANS WHO MIGHT HAVE SPECIFIC DEMANDS TO BREAK AWAY
SPECIFIC DEMANDS TO BREAK AWAY AND THREATEN TO MAKE A COALITION
AND THREATEN TO MAKE A COALITION OF THE DEMOCRATS.
OF THE DEMOCRATS. THAT'S WHY I THINK PEOPLE ARE
THAT'S WHY I THINK PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS A VERY
LOOKING AT THIS AS A VERY INTERESTING UPCOMING DYNAMIC.
INTERESTING UPCOMING DYNAMIC. >> WHAT SORTS OF THINGS MIGHT
>> WHAT SORTS OF THINGS MIGHT THAT OCCUR ON?
THAT OCCUR ON? WHAT KINDS OF ISSUES MIGHT THERE
WHAT KINDS OF ISSUES MIGHT THERE BE --
BE -- >> WELL, CERTAINLY THE EDUCATION
>> WELL, CERTAINLY THE EDUCATION BUDGET I THINK IS THE ONE THING
BUDGET I THINK IS THE ONE THING THAT MANY REPUBLICANS THINK THEY
THAT MANY REPUBLICANS THINK THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME
WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME INCREASING THERE.
INCREASING THERE. WE'VE HEARD EVEN THE CHAIRMAN OF
WE'VE HEARD EVEN THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE SAID, YES, THAT'S ONE
COMMITTEE SAID, YES, THAT'S ONE THING I WILL CONSIDER, MORE
THING I WILL CONSIDER, MORE FUNDING FOR THE K12 SCHOOLS.
FUNDING FOR THE K12 SCHOOLS. CERTAINLY HAVE FOLKS LIKE RICH
CERTAINLY HAVE FOLKS LIKE RICH KRAJDZ, THEY'RE STRONG IN THEIR
KRAJDZ, THEY'RE STRONG IN THEIR ADVOCACY FOR MORE FUNDING FOR IN
ADVOCACY FOR MORE FUNDING FOR IN ORDER FOR THE LEGISLATION NOT TO
ORDER FOR THE LEGISLATION NOT TO GO FORWARD, AND THEY CAN
GO FORWARD, AND THEY CAN CERTAINLY HOLD THAT BARGAINING
CERTAINLY HOLD THAT BARGAINING CHIP, IF YOU WILL.
CHIP, IF YOU WILL. WE'LL FIND OUT AFTER IT HAPPENS,
WE'LL FIND OUT AFTER IT HAPPENS, BUT THE NARROWER SPLIT MAKES
BUT THE NARROWER SPLIT MAKES THAT POSSIBLE.
THAT POSSIBLE. >> ON THE HIT-OR-MISS SIDE,
>> ON THE HIT-OR-MISS SIDE, THOUGH, THE -- IT'S NOT JUST A
THOUGH, THE -- IT'S NOT JUST A COUPLE OF NUMBERS.
COUPLE OF NUMBERS. IT'S THE HALF A DOZEN OR MORE.
IT'S THE HALF A DOZEN OR MORE. CAN THAT HAPPEN THERE ON
CAN THAT HAPPEN THERE ON ANYTHING?
ANYTHING? >> MUCH LESS LIKELY GIVEN THE
>> MUCH LESS LIKELY GIVEN THE MAKE-UP OF THE HOUSE.
MAKE-UP OF THE HOUSE. I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING MUCH.
I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING MUCH. THEY MIGHT SURPRISE US, BUT
THEY MIGHT SURPRISE US, BUT SPEAKER TOBIN HAS BEEN ABLE TO
SPEAKER TOBIN HAS BEEN ABLE TO IN THE LAST YEAR HE HAS KEPT A
IN THE LAST YEAR HE HAS KEPT A VERY DIVERSE COALITION OF
VERY DIVERSE COALITION OF REPUBLICANS TOGETHER ON THINGS,
REPUBLICANS TOGETHER ON THINGS, AND HE WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO
AND HE WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO REPEAT THAT THIS TIME.
REPEAT THAT THIS TIME. >> HAS THERE BEEN ANY OUTREACH
>> HAS THERE BEEN ANY OUTREACH BY HOUSE SPEAKER TOBIN TO THE
BY HOUSE SPEAKER TOBIN TO THE DEMOCRATS FOR THE WAY SENATE
DEMOCRATS FOR THE WAY SENATE PRESIDENT-ELECT BIGS DID WITH
PRESIDENT-ELECT BIGS DID WITH TAYLOR?
TAYLOR? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
>> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I JUST SAW MINORITY LEADER CHAD
I JUST SAW MINORITY LEADER CHAD CAMPBELL THE OTHER DAY, AND
CAMPBELL THE OTHER DAY, AND THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT
THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT THERE HAD BEEN ANY KIND OF
THERE HAD BEEN ANY KIND OF TALKS, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT,
TALKS, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT, OTHER THAN TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS
OTHER THAN TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS GOING TO BE IN WHAT OFFICE.
GOING TO BE IN WHAT OFFICE. >> NOW, IN THE SENATE THEY ARE
>> NOW, IN THE SENATE THEY ARE TALKING ACROSS THE AISLE.
TALKING ACROSS THE AISLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL COME OF
WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL COME OF THAT MORE BIPARTISANSHIP OR IS
THAT MORE BIPARTISANSHIP OR IS THAT A PROTECTIVE MEASURE BY THE
THAT A PROTECTIVE MEASURE BY THE REPUBLICANS TO TRY TO HOLD THEIR
REPUBLICANS TO TRY TO HOLD THEIR ISSUES IN PLACE?
ISSUES IN PLACE? >> I THINK ALL OF THE ELEMENTS
>> I THINK ALL OF THE ELEMENTS COME INTO PLAY.
COME INTO PLAY. I MEAN, THE DIFFICULTY -- THE
I MEAN, THE DIFFICULTY -- THE CHALLENGE FOR SENATOR BIGS
CHALLENGE FOR SENATOR BIGS TRYING TO KEEP HIS CAUCUS
TRYING TO KEEP HIS CAUCUS TOGETHER AND THAT MEANS WHEREAS
TOGETHER AND THAT MEANS WHEREAS BEFORE WHEN YOU HAVE THE SUPER
BEFORE WHEN YOU HAVE THE SUPER MAJORITY HE COULD AFFORD TO
MAJORITY HE COULD AFFORD TO LOSE, YOU KNOW, A KEY VOTE AND
LOSE, YOU KNOW, A KEY VOTE AND DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TO -- THE
DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TO -- THE SENATE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME
SENATE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME DIDN'T HAVE TO COURT THEM, IF
DIDN'T HAVE TO COURT THEM, IF YOU WILL, GUT NOW MR. BIGS WOULD
YOU WILL, GUT NOW MR. BIGS WOULD HAVE TO INSURE THAT EVERY ONE OF
HAVE TO INSURE THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE REPUBLICANS WOULD BE ON
THOSE REPUBLICANS WOULD BE ON HIS SIDE, VOTING WITH HIM,
HIS SIDE, VOTING WITH HIM, VOTING WITH THE LEADERSHIP, SO I
VOTING WITH THE LEADERSHIP, SO I THINK THE FOREFRONT THE
THINK THE FOREFRONT THE CHALLENGE FOR HIM IS TO GO OUT
CHALLENGE FOR HIM IS TO GO OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT HE IS
THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT HE IS COMMUNICATING WITH INCORPORATING
COMMUNICATING WITH INCORPORATING THEM, GETTING THEIR -- WHETHER
THEM, GETTING THEIR -- WHETHER THEY NEED GETTING THOSE MET AND
THEY NEED GETTING THOSE MET AND THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR HIM TO
THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR HIM TO INSURE THAT HIS CAUCUS IS KEPT
INSURE THAT HIS CAUCUS IS KEPT INTACT, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN,
INTACT, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS WE KNOW, THE
OF COURSE, AS WE KNOW, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ALWAYS
REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ALWAYS FRACTIOUS, IF WILL YOU.
FRACTIOUS, IF WILL YOU. THERE ARE DIFFERENT FACTIONS
THERE ARE DIFFERENT FACTIONS EVEN WITHIN THAT -- WITH 13
EVEN WITHIN THAT -- WITH 13 MEMBERS.
MEMBERS. THERE ARE SENATORS WHO HAVE OR
THERE ARE SENATORS WHO HAVE OR EVEN HOUSE MEMBERS WHO HAVE
EVEN HOUSE MEMBERS WHO HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND THINGS, AND
DIFFERENT VIEWS AND THINGS, AND SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THOSE
SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THOSE SENATORS WOULD BE VOTING, COULD
SENATORS WOULD BE VOTING, COULD BE VOTING WITH DEMOCRATS ON
BE VOTING WITH DEMOCRATS ON CERTAIN ISSUES.
CERTAIN ISSUES. JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE
JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SUBJECT IS.
SUBJECT IS. >> AND ONE PERSON, MARY JOE,
>> AND ONE PERSON, MARY JOE, POINTED OUT THAT THE VOTE FOR
POINTED OUT THAT THE VOTE FOR SENATE PRESIDENT WAS 9-8, SO
SENATE PRESIDENT WAS 9-8, SO THEY'RE ALREADY SPLIT, RIGHT?
THEY'RE ALREADY SPLIT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. THE REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY
THE REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY SPLIT, AND AS YOU NOTED, THE
SPLIT, AND AS YOU NOTED, THE DEMOCRATS ARE TOO.
DEMOCRATS ARE TOO. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR VOTE WAS
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR VOTE WAS 7-6, YEAH.
7-6, YEAH. CAN'T DO MY MATH FAST ENOUGH.
CAN'T DO MY MATH FAST ENOUGH. YOU HAVE TWO VERY DIVIDED
YOU HAVE TWO VERY DIVIDED CAUCUSES.
CAUCUSES. I DON'T KNOW IF THE LEADERSHIP
I DON'T KNOW IF THE LEADERSHIP VOTE PORTENDS DISHARMONY GOING
VOTE PORTENDS DISHARMONY GOING FORWARD, BUT IT GIVES YOU
FORWARD, BUT IT GIVES YOU SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR.
SOMETHING TO WATCH FOR. >> HE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE
>> HE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE OTHER BIG ISSUES ON THE TABLING,
OTHER BIG ISSUES ON THE TABLING, AND THAT WILL BE MEDICAID OR
AND THAT WILL BE MEDICAID OR ACCESS FUNDING.
ACCESS FUNDING. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING ON THAT, AND
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING ON THAT, AND CAN THE REPUBLICANS, FIRST OF
CAN THE REPUBLICANS, FIRST OF ALL, FROM WHATEVER THE GOVERNOR
ALL, FROM WHATEVER THE GOVERNOR SUGGESTS SHE WANTS TO DO WITH
SUGGESTS SHE WANTS TO DO WITH EXPANDING MEDICAID?
EXPANDING MEDICAID? >> THE GOVERNOR IS CERTAINLY THE
>> THE GOVERNOR IS CERTAINLY THE PERSON THAT WILL HAVE TO TAKE
PERSON THAT WILL HAVE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS ONE, AND
THE LEAD ON THIS ONE, AND WHATEVER DATES -- WHATEVER THE
WHATEVER DATES -- WHATEVER THE GOVERNOR DECIDES TO DO AND SHE
GOVERNOR DECIDES TO DO AND SHE HASN'T REALLY DECIDED WHAT SHE
HASN'T REALLY DECIDED WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO, WILL SORT OF BE THE
WANTS TO DO, WILL SORT OF BE THE BASIS OF THE CONVERSATION.
BASIS OF THE CONVERSATION. THE THING IS THAT THIS WEEK THE
THE THING IS THAT THIS WEEK THE FEDERAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT CAME
FEDERAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT CAME OUT WITH A RULE ESSENTIALLY THAT
OUT WITH A RULE ESSENTIALLY THAT SAID WE'RE NOT -- FOR THOSE
SAID WE'RE NOT -- FOR THOSE STATES THAT DO NOT EXPAND THEIR
STATES THAT DO NOT EXPAND THEIR MEDICAID POPULATION UP TO 133%
MEDICAID POPULATION UP TO 133% OF THE POVERTY LEVEL, WHICH IS
OF THE POVERTY LEVEL, WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE
THE REQUIREMENT OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, FOR STATES
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, FOR STATES THAT DO NOT DO THAT, THEN
THAT DO NOT DO THAT, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE FULL MATCH OR THE FULL ENHANCED
FULL MATCH OR THE FULL ENHANCED MATCH.
MATCH. IF WE DID 133% EXPANSION, I
IF WE DID 133% EXPANSION, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET 85%
THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET 85% MATCH FROM THE FEDERAL
MATCH FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF THE USUAL
GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF THE USUAL 66%.
66%. NOW, THAT'S A BIG PART.
NOW, THAT'S A BIG PART. THAT'S A DETHIS DEBATE BECAUSE
THAT'S A DETHIS DEBATE BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GETTING A
THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE MONEY IF WE DID THE
LOT MORE MONEY IF WE DID THE FULL EXTENSION, BUT THEN MANY
FULL EXTENSION, BUT THEN MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY TALKING
PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT DOING THE 133%.
ABOUT DOING THE 133%. I THINK MOST POLICY MAKERS ARE
I THINK MOST POLICY MAKERS ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT OR DISCUSSING
JUST TALKING ABOUT OR DISCUSSING RESTORING WHAT WE CALL THE PROP
RESTORING WHAT WE CALL THE PROP 2 FLOOR POPULATION, AND THIS IS
2 FLOOR POPULATION, AND THIS IS THE POPULATION THAT WE USE TO
THE POPULATION THAT WE USE TO COVER AND WE USE TO PAY FOR
COVER AND WE USE TO PAY FOR THEIR INSURANCE AND HEALTH CARE,
THEIR INSURANCE AND HEALTH CARE, AND WE DECIDED TO FREEZE THEIR
AND WE DECIDED TO FREEZE THEIR ENROLLMENT IN MEDICAID BECAUSE
ENROLLMENT IN MEDICAID BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS LAST YEAR.
WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS LAST YEAR. >> THAT'S THE PROP 204 FROM THE
>> THAT'S THE PROP 204 FROM THE YEAR 2000, NOT THE PROP 204 FROM
YEAR 2000, NOT THE PROP 204 FROM THIS YEAR, CORRECT, OR THE
THIS YEAR, CORRECT, OR THE TOBACCO TAX MONEY.
TOBACCO TAX MONEY. >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. SO SINCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
SO SINCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU
SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ENHANCED MATCH IF YOU DON'T
AN ENHANCED MATCH IF YOU DON'T DO IT OURWAY, I THINK THAT'S
DO IT OURWAY, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO WAY IN INTO WHATEVER
GOING TO WAY IN INTO WHATEVER THE GOVERNOR DECIDES TO DO, AND
THE GOVERNOR DECIDES TO DO, AND SHE MAY DECIDE NOT TO RESTORE IT
SHE MAY DECIDE NOT TO RESTORE IT TO PROP 204 POPULATION AS A
TO PROP 204 POPULATION AS A RESULT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
RESULT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITHHOLDING THE FUNDS FROM THE
WITHHOLDING THE FUNDS FROM THE STATE.
STATE. >> YOUR INSIGHT ON THAT, MARY
>> YOUR INSIGHT ON THAT, MARY JOE?
JOE? >> I THINK THAT WITH THE FEDERAL
>> I THINK THAT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVING MADE IT PRETTY
GOVERNMENT HAVING MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR WHAT -- HOW MUCH THEY'RE
CLEAR WHAT -- HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO PAY IN TERMS OF A
GOING TO PAY IN TERMS OF A MATCH, THAT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER
MATCH, THAT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR -- AN EASIER PASS FOR
FOR -- AN EASIER PASS FOR POLICYMAKERS HERE.
POLICYMAKERS HERE. EARLY ON IT WAS WIDELY BELIEVED
EARLY ON IT WAS WIDELY BELIEVED IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY THAT
IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY THAT THE GOVERNOR WOULD ONLY GO UP TO
THE GOVERNOR WOULD ONLY GO UP TO
100% OF POVERTY LEVEL ANYWAY
100% OF POVERTY LEVEL ANYWAY BECAUSE ANYTHING ABOVE THAT, IT
BECAUSE ANYTHING ABOVE THAT, IT DOES REQUIRE MORE MONEY, EVEN
DOES REQUIRE MORE MONEY, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU PUT MORE STATE
THOUGH IF YOU PUT MORE STATE MONEY OUT, YOU WILL GET A MUCH
MONEY OUT, YOU WILL GET A MUCH MORE GENEROUS FEDERAL MATCH.
MORE GENEROUS FEDERAL MATCH. I THINK THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER
I THINK THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER AT 100%.
AT 100%. IT WILL ALSO PROBABLY FORESTALL
IT WILL ALSO PROBABLY FORESTALL OR AVOID A BATTLE WITH THE
OR AVOID A BATTLE WITH THE LEGISLATURE WHICH IS REALLY
LEGISLATURE WHICH IS REALLY ADVERSE TO THE IDEA OF ANY KIND
ADVERSE TO THE IDEA OF ANY KIND OF INCREASES.
OF INCREASES. IT'S WIDELY BELIEVED THAT'S WHY
IT'S WIDELY BELIEVED THAT'S WHY THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T OPT TO HAVE
THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T OPT TO HAVE A STATE-RUN HEALTH EXCHANGE.
A STATE-RUN HEALTH EXCHANGE. THAT WAS JUST GOING TO SET HER
THAT WAS JUST GOING TO SET HER UP FOR A BIG FIGHT WITH THE
UP FOR A BIG FIGHT WITH THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN THE
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN THE LEGISLATURE AND MAYBE SHE'S
LEGISLATURE AND MAYBE SHE'S KEEPING HER POWDER DRY FOR THE
KEEPING HER POWDER DRY FOR THE MEDICAID DECISION.
MEDICAID DECISION. >> DO WE EXPECT TO SEE THE
>> DO WE EXPECT TO SEE THE GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID PROPOSAL IN
GOVERNOR'S MEDICAID PROPOSAL IN HER BUDGET?
HER BUDGET? >> WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT.
>> WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT. THE GOVERNOR WILL ROLL OUT HER
THE GOVERNOR WILL ROLL OUT HER BUDGET IN JANUARY.
BUDGET IN JANUARY. I THINK JUST BEFORE THE START OF
I THINK JUST BEFORE THE START OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. WE EXPECT TO SEE WHAT SHE WANTS
WE EXPECT TO SEE WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO WITH THE HEALTH CARE
TO DO WITH THE HEALTH CARE ISSUE, WHETHER SHE WANTS TO
ISSUE, WHETHER SHE WANTS TO EXPAND MEDICAID UP TO 100% OR UP
EXPAND MEDICAID UP TO 100% OR UP TO 133%.
TO 133%. THE LATTER IS VERY UNLIKELY NOW,
THE LATTER IS VERY UNLIKELY NOW, AND WE MAY NOT EVEN SEE THE
AND WE MAY NOT EVEN SEE THE GOVERNOR PUSH FOR AN EXPANSION
GOVERNOR PUSH FOR AN EXPANSION OF THE PROP 204 POPULATION -- OR
OF THE PROP 204 POPULATION -- OR THE REST RAG OF THE PROPOSITION
THE REST RAG OF THE PROPOSITION 204 POPULATION.
204 POPULATION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN ENHANCED MATCH FROM THE FEDS
ENHANCED MATCH FROM THE FEDS EVEN IF WE DID THAT.
EVEN IF WE DID THAT. >> THE DYNAMIC THAT IS ARE
>> THE DYNAMIC THAT IS ARE PLAYING HERE IS THAT YOU HAVE
PLAYING HERE IS THAT YOU HAVE THE TEMPORARY PENNY SALES TAX
THE TEMPORARY PENNY SALES TAX EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS
EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, SO
CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, SO LAWMAKERS HAVE SAID, LOOK, WE
LAWMAKERS HAVE SAID, LOOK, WE JUST AREN'T -- THEY'VE GOT MONEY
JUST AREN'T -- THEY'VE GOT MONEY IN RESERVE, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO
IN RESERVE, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO SPEND A LOT OF MORE ON
SPEND A LOT OF MORE ON EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. PLUS, SPEND A LOT MORE ON HEALTH
PLUS, SPEND A LOT MORE ON HEALTH CARE.
CARE. PLUS, SPEND MORE ON CTS, WHICH
PLUS, SPEND MORE ON CTS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, WHICH
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, WHICH THAT'S THE OTHER PRIORITY OF THE
THAT'S THE OTHER PRIORITY OF THE GOVERNOR.
GOVERNOR. THERE'S A NEED FOR HELP ON CHILD
THERE'S A NEED FOR HELP ON CHILD SAFETY AND THEY'VE SIGNALLED
SAFETY AND THEY'VE SIGNALLED THAT CHILD SAFETY IS SOMETHING
THAT CHILD SAFETY IS SOMETHING THEY'VE CONSIDERED SPENDING
THEY'VE CONSIDERED SPENDING INCREASES ON.
INCREASES ON. YOU'LL HAVE THESE AT LEAST THOSE
YOU'LL HAVE THESE AT LEAST THOSE THREE KEY AREAS SORT OF ALL, YOU
THREE KEY AREAS SORT OF ALL, YOU KNOW, IN THE MOSH PIT FOR SOME
KNOW, IN THE MOSH PIT FOR SOME OF THE EXTRA MONEY THAT THE
OF THE EXTRA MONEY THAT THE STATE MIGHT HAVE.
STATE MIGHT HAVE. >> THEN THE ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT
>> THEN THE ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT ALWAYS SEEMS TO COME TO THE FORE
ALWAYS SEEMS TO COME TO THE FORE IN ARIZONA, IMMIGRATION, AND NEW
IN ARIZONA, IMMIGRATION, AND NEW IMMIGRATION LAWS, TOUGHER
IMMIGRATION LAWS, TOUGHER IMMIGRATION LAWS.
IMMIGRATION LAWS. SENATOR-ELECT BOB WORSLEY TOLD
SENATOR-ELECT BOB WORSLEY TOLD US HE PARTICULARLY WAS RECRUITED
US HE PARTICULARLY WAS RECRUITED FOR AND ELECTED TO THE SENATE
FOR AND ELECTED TO THE SENATE FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM IN
FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM IN ARIZONA FOR MORE IMMIGRATION LAW
ARIZONA FOR MORE IMMIGRATION LAW IN ARIZONA.
IN ARIZONA. WILL ANYTHING COME TO THE FORE
WILL ANYTHING COME TO THE FORE IN 2013?
IN 2013? >> THERE'S THIS PREVAILING
>> THERE'S THIS PREVAILING SENTIMENT, I THINK, CITY STATE
SENTIMENT, I THINK, CITY STATE LEGISLATURE THAT THIS IS
LEGISLATURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A MORE
SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AND WHAT
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT MORE
I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD SAY THIS IS
PEOPLE WOULD SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE FEDS REALLY
SOMETHING THAT THE FEDS REALLY HAVE TO WEIGH IN, AND ARIZONA
HAVE TO WEIGH IN, AND ARIZONA HAS DONE WHAT IT COULD.
HAS DONE WHAT IT COULD. WE HAVE -- IT REMAINS VERY
WE HAVE -- IT REMAINS VERY POPULAR.
POPULAR. THAT'S STILL IN PLACE.
THAT'S STILL IN PLACE. >> LONGER VERSIONS OF ALL OF
>> LONGER VERSIONS OF ALL OF TONIGHT'S INTERVIEWS CAN BE SEEN
TONIGHT'S INTERVIEWS CAN BE SEEN ON OUR WEBSITE, AZWEEK.COM.
ON OUR WEBSITE, AZWEEK.COM. THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY,
THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR FRIDAY, JANUARY 4th, 2013.
JANUARY 4th, 2013. NEXT FRIDAY WE PLAN TO LOOK AT
NEXT FRIDAY WE PLAN TO LOOK AT IMPLICATIONS OF THE FEDERAL
IMPLICATIONS OF THE FEDERAL FISCAL ISSUES FOR ARIZONA.
FISCAL ISSUES FOR ARIZONA. FOR ARIZONA WEEK, I'M MICHAEL.
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