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fired back at first
that i'm very interested in
if his presser michael ccu hidden he's off of the book god and sex
what the bible releases i'll
gut professor cunanan's really is oppressor religious studies esto no
college
he's the editor of the new oxford annotated bible
uh... he is also taught at harvard and wellesley
its a biblical scholar it's great to have money repressed
in power reactors
okay very much
alright first ali
the just reassure us that uh... in the bible
marriages between one man and one woman right i mean i know
all the time
that must be true right
sometime today but a lot of the time it is
yeah sometime later
so disappointed
so what times of relationships are in the body
well one of the most
commonness especially earlier times his polygamy meant many of the great
figure that earlier biblical history fetches abraham and
jacob and david in solomon madden at multiple watch
that's the case although that was three hundred lives
revived and six
hundred cocky but i think that he's an old and i mean you know what i could
regarding that patli some enacting a while to get through so when
is our any parlam bible where it says okay all right that's why solomon's you
know he's been over there
but really the way to go the standard is
marriage if you want men and one moment is their part where it says that
well there are parked that imply that
uh... and uh... called early departure quoted to protect track term
especially the story the garden of eden where of course there was only one man
and one woman so but the only ones who insist that ourselves that's exactly
right
but what happened what
in over two years and developed a monogamy become more and more became the
norm
and filling christianity emerge from judy is in the deducted that
that monogamous principle that are working
always that way from the beginning in adamantly ever get married in the bible
not explicitly that is far as we know
they're just
together
him
one of the problems in the bible is that the word for
wife is also the same word for warm in
so what it says for example that avenue his wife a biblical euphemisms
we could also translated avenue his woman
and uh... certainly no marriage ceremony for them described tennessee ever
described as her husband
you could describe enter man
okay well
analytics data but like i said there is a very often so
that and then
if they're going to multiply from adam and eve
by definition doesn't there have to be *** in the next generation
avid if you're going to take a viable literally obviously there after the end
says but
i think we shouldn't interpret these stories to literally their didn't like
many cultures have there
really of origins of how we got to be the way we are and we shouldn't
interpret them as
what actually happened but no no no well-suited i'm told by evangelical
right wing christians in this country
every word the bible is true
so i i want to be very careful about picking it literally so i now allow that
i suppose it is the existing solar was abolished right
for the threat of lives in six hundred-pound buys those solely fine
coherent but after his death is sunway
ought to go for it
so samba so unless he got literally meaning that i have three hundred why
this is an attack ad buys and open right wing chris's is going to be totally fine
with right
they tax rebate should be
uh... and in fact and another group which is also derived from trees in
christianity mormon fundamentalists
mormon terms still hold for polygamy because
prophetically because that's what the bible says
alright and other miles or so something else about sex it says that sonny's
totally not allowed
the and that you know i can tell me that a true is it
noted that we've got cleared says objective
it circuit at least from yet a command like a command
at with the woman it says it's an abomination
and there's no equivocating about that
so when people quote that
and in opposition to
same sex relationships are same sex marriage
they're absolutely right that is what the bible says
but the point i'm making the book is that the bob also says
that they should both be put to death
and i'm not sure that any except the most rabid
we're going to force the death penalty for same sex couples
my dad also point out that they're all sort of either of our nation in the
model that people fairly politely ignore women wearing men's clothing as women
couldn't wear pants with that than abomination
eating pork for many people is
common and yet the bottle call threaten abomination to assert its choose one of
our nation
over all the others i think it
sam's selective
use of the bible i've always wondered about this because you know i quote the
shellfish apart in the videos all the time
so he shrimp it's an abomination as is
that lying with a man right back
at universal or what you just said but does that mean that the people who are
eating shrimp or ham or any of that sub
she may also be put to death
or is there or is a different categories of abomination
where there are different category provider nation
but the death penalty was imposed for all sorts of crimes
according to biblical law o very few which we would do that
incase that'd be imposed for for adultery for him
prostitution for children who curse their parents
mocked for all of these uh... offenses the death penalty as prescribed
alright yeah noite very important to take the bible absolutely literally
i'm sure that right wing christians in this country agree with all that
so
now you mentioned something about how sub you know because you you redid the
bible in its original languages and i write about them first
that's right over all the breakfast a prince reading a book i prefer it myself
all right now
this you mention something about sodomy not nestling meaning sodomy what what
what's that part
rep at a meeting which were derived from the name of the town of problem
but it's not used to do the word there is no word ending the biblical languages
forward to
for sodomy derived from ***
and what went on the part of the although it was more rate then sodomy in
our sent from homosexual
it'll prep penetration
him and most collagen going back to the bible itself interpret what was going on
at *** not primarily as a kind of
homosexual inclination
but rather at the violation of a fundamental ancient principle of
hospitality
right so
raping your debts as what they were against not entirely homosexuality
regardless of their gender you know what i can get the right wing christians were
it
saying abt i'd be dead yeah
we should meet
but this it would be that agreement if we
and then i will run yet and i think and then the property kyoko but that
probably wondered the maintenance problem with that they treated everybody
all the marginalized society
improperly they didn't feed the hungry they didn't take care of the poor and so
forth
they very there seems worse social
him
not *** so not feeding the poor and helping of the perhaps for example
unemployed that would be sodomy
well that would be this
inotropic berkeley high i'm just reading it
uh... and is somewhat i did not know that's why i'm not a biblical scholar i
read a lot of it but i didn't read this part
it's old but i love his references to god's
with the genitalia lawrence
saxena what what what what with reference to
well there are
and that's not a parking bible you can please bt inside
you years and so forth
and a month exp also has more into a chance to kind of generally the area
around the genitals being dairy between the way to make it
and and the property
said he had fire in this morning
and i think that if the credit epic off point for talking about
god being described as a *** being both
he mere as with other enchantment
and also metaphorically
so if you think the first lol just curiosity does he do anywhere the plan
is no one's stores to see just ask the fire
well he has said children
when they're fearful
you know there's sons of god mentioned several times in the
union jewish scriptures meal testament
and i call it seem use the father of jesus
to rearing
amto presumably there is some sort of
biological
fathering going on there
the soon to say i i didn't know outside of jesus that he had fathered other sons
of the name
they they are not named early in the bible although in later tradition they
are but there are at their named in candice's send in the book of job but in
other places state form part of his
heavenly quart so the crowd is sort of the head of the pantheon
like images uh... on mount olympus in the other god firms sit around and
consult with him and
you know praised his creation and things like that so at that time you know
the idea of the zoo's coming in having sex with mortal women
was fairly complex would have been that strange for got to have sons or in the
case of that christianity form there have
you know social relation with the *** mary that produce the kid that-that's
very since like is it
that it's actually very dislike it then you're right it wouldn't surprise
anybody in the world in which christianity came to be there to god
would impregnate
human virtue
fascinating we're gonna michael colgan
he's uh... the first wrote the book dot and sex what the bible really says
and this is
fascinating subcommittee let's talk about abortion
and other thing that the right wing christians in this country tommy as
static man if there is something that
walks solid in the bible
it is a guy is against abortion
that trip
well
that just their own right wing christians but even though the
pro-choice people quote the bible in support of their opposite position
and i find that they're leaving because
in fact the bible does mention abortion at all there's no text in the bottle it
talks about abortion
therapeutic that therefore have to be interpreted indirectly
in support of either side in because
they can't be interpreted to either way
uh... both sides can quote the bible and support their position
biblical people didn't practice abortion
uh... and that's why it doesn't come up with all
well you know this
you know on the anti ad
on the sayed saying that abortion is allowed in the bible
press read our eunice and i've seen a case where they say
if you think your wife is cheating on you
however drink some sort of poisonous water
and if she missed carries then then she was if she doesn't then she wasn't she
right let
isn't that kind of a at you know advocating for abortion in that sense
well regards seem to be fine
uh... kind of abortion it's a very very mysterious text
but
uh... it's president who makes the way i think the post-communist
it's the priest perhaps wouldn't that suspicious of the break his wife before
the priest and he makes it a potion
and read and the idea behind that is that it's god ultimately that the final
judge initially miscarriages
miscarried then god has found her guilty
so in a sense i get that would make up the abortionist not
the priest or any human invented intermediary
even so the hostess exploded all over the country
all right back at the professor current seriously had all these things come
about i mean how do we
have that their country here where
the great majority of the country's completely misinformed
about what's in the bible of thinks
like that looks like i said in all kidding aside
been the most important in the bible is the guy is against abortion if it's not
mention the bible at all
how the hell they come up with that idea
well i think they are in
they've formed their views on all sorted
social issues so-called family values and then they look in the bible for
support of their
previously arrive that positions and because of the nature of the bible that
easy to do the vital was not handed down by god you know no shrink wrapped
package delivered from amazon are downloaded on the camera or i'd pad or
something like that
the vital it was written over the course of more than a thousand years
by people who had very different views about all sorts of topics and so it's
easy to find in the bible all sorts of inconsistencies and to choose from those
inconsistencies
that support a particular point of view
successes
room when you argue at literals
your points are overwhelming reaches not only have you study the bible
but you've read it in the original language etcetera
and in your quoting scripture used is no way around
rap out of answer
well mulling a quintessential american analytically character into a having
fundamentalistic interconnected institute
think for themselves
but
all timidly one answer they give which i don't run entirely satisfying is
that you know god put the little things number i will protect our faith
arthur romance entirely happy with the guys like that
sometimes i get email occasionally saying i am you know and i myself am
andrew an abomination and i find that anything too
all of these shrimp
uh... because reported better budhiraja
it's all the sudden browsers
but so far up alright and no one last thing the countries that the role of
women in the bible you'll start about that in your book gap
that one
or how does that how do women get return
record saying that i would prefer a long time ago by people
from different cultures with different views then in that culture agian
the west until really the nineteen th century mid-twenties sentry
women were subordinate to men and in many ways their property there chattel
him
one daughters belong to their fathers and till they were
sold to their prospective husband for bread price and then they did their
husbands in effect became their owners
and that you characteristic a biblical times with characteristic of
united states for example until banking sentry and then
passage of that
the amendment giving women the right to vote
there's a case where we had to society have rejected
the biblical view about the status of women just as we have rejected biblical
views about slavery and other issues
have moved beyond the but still
many of us find in the bible inspiration and the kind of
support for a broader
uh...
openness
to people of whatever
whatever status danette
nurses l_s_i_ sienna manuka slavery is a great example
people using the bible for for whichever side of the argument that they want
ut slave owners made arguments that use the bible right and and people who
fought against labor also use the bible gardens in the erupted
actually this labor owners had case if they were using just the bottle
because slavery to proved up in the bible and and divine we approve dot
as long as it's not a is realize writers you know if you take from other
countries as well
him
here although women feel i could be a death rate for a while so it
propagated by their own open-minded ok could even get a real life depending on
the situation
yes uh... objectives
press according to an absolute pleasure you know i what i say all the time to
people is read the bible you'll be amazed with senate and you've of course
he went to another level and now become a red-hot insects
or the bible really says
it's a great book thank you for joining s thank you david thank you very much
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