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%uh Missouri is incredible study that the
proves the background checks save law lives I just tell you this very quickly
I Missouri is to have what's called permit to purchase
rules he had to get a permit to own a gun before you go into a gun store and
buy it
be repealed that in 2007
and Johns Hopkins
University did a study on this and they found that
as a consequence of that lobbying repealed I
an additional 55 to 60 three murders per year in misery every year from 2008 to
2012 have occurred
and they control for changes in police in incarceration burglaries
unemployment poverty and other state laws adopted during the study period
all of this so apropos course
up the Michael Dunn a verdict coming in at bay
back in the Jordan Davis ***
over the weekend meanwhile in arkansas
a a group of kids were going to play a prank
on another kid by adding his car and then covering it leaves and then when he
came out to see the car there are going to jump up and no surprise
and what they didn't know that was that his dad had a shotgun in the house
and his dad saw them doing it and came out with the shotgun and when they
jumped up to yell surprise
he shot and killed a a 15-year-old girl
arm a
i'm looking for. name here it this is
but we'll get we'll get to that I
accurate is got it in any case a
I wanna get no mccabe on here and talk about this stuff this is this is very
concerning
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great to be opening for a Joe Madison Joe's a good guy look forward to talking
about this
on he you Road in your
I don't know if this is publisher of this was just a note you sent Shawn
about your thoughts on this issue but you wrote
unlike the rules for our troops in battle
yeah Americans don't have to wait to be shot
before defending themselves and course this is how this guy got off on the
first-degree *** conviction
release got a hung jury down in florida
is he said I was afraid and under the Stand Your Ground shoot first laws
all you have to do is say I was afraid it's the same thing that george
Zimmerman said
and if you are if the jury can't
where the prosecution can't proved that you weren't
afraid then your assertion a fear is
unchallengeable because the law
does not require any objective proof it only requires an assertion
fear and both the Trayvon Martin case
and in the Jordan Davis case the murderers simply asserted they were
afraid and therefore avoid a first-degree *** conviction
on the why should our troops
have to know that they are at risk be shot at before they can shoot
but you know some bozo down in Florida who
in the case irv love fob Michael Dunn
he it was a strange from his son nada horrible relationship in his son
basically hated each other his son and up but we got married he went to the
wedding he had words with his son slammed on a buncha drinks
his girlfriend left you been divorced from his son's mother
and add yet had a buncha drinks they stopped the liquor store aka mean store
to get some more *** she went into getting along with some chips
and meanwhile you know carlotta teenagers after american teenagers
sit next to him playing loud music and he starts yelling at him in going off on
him
I how is
I just don't understand how how you could in any way defend that or justify
that
well supplied to be applied biology Thomas have that opportunity
for smaller I think I think that if you spoke to
the troops in the field to a man they would tell you that they are very
uncomfortable with the rules of engagement
and that they feel like they're being set up distinct docks
I but I could but that's not really what we want to talk all day if they if they
if that sentiment was true
it would go up the line of command and you would see a change in the rules of
engagement
not necessarily time and and in your you speak to someone
who has to take an annual rules of engagement training class
every year a as part of my Army Reserve service
in and every time there is
fierce debate an argument with the with the poor JAG officer
who s to explain to the Joes why they have to 7 be shot at
right secondly as with some ramen although the left wanted to make it
about
stand your ground his defense was not actually
stand your ground had stand your ground not been included in the jury
instructions we know this now from interviews at the jurors
had the judge explicitly include stand your ground in the jury instructions and
said
if you cannot if you cannot dag not down his assertion that he felt
hatred fear if you cannot demonstrate that he had no fear
then you must not then you cannot convict him speaking
El Corral granted a time but you still have it's not the absolute case that you
described
and I think the jet the leftover over blue that
but getting checked it today I don't think this is left right I think this is
you know pro NRA anti-arab there is a movement in this country to use these
cases
arm in these anecdotes at to justify restricting gun rights
know it's it is not this I'm not suggesting that we should restrict gun
rights although that so
you know I would do big glad to do so in another argument with you and I have in
the past
I'm suggestion that the stand you should stand your ground shoot first laws
that we're basically written by lobbyist for the National Rifle Association
introduced to the states to the American Legislative Exchange Council
vie Republic bought of Republican legislators that these
laws there were just there to increase the profits the gun manufacturers a
bankroll the NRA
are destructive that they are burkina's is that that's a really twisted
narrative basically
for small people are allowed to petition their congress
I he know that it's exciting the
the fact of the matter is that if somebody is afraid
and afraid for their life they should have the right
to address that fear well he he certainly could have addressed their
fairy coulda back to scar out and parked on the other side of the parking lot
nuit no I mean I live in Silver Spring Maryland
and a I is there was one particular night at
at Wheaton station where somebody with somebody
was harassing somebody about 20 feet away from me
I and and I looked over to see what it was
and that guy threw me such a lot that I boarded the next
of because I was so it's like I
are you did the right thing if you're if you're afraid for your life to get the
hell outta there
but attack I followed me on the botched attack I followed like
and so the kid the kid went into the trial now you're
now you're providing the justification for Trayvon Martin to a shot george
Zimmerman
well and I mean if its a probe on Martin felt that he was in danger
he clearly was the end up dead well I mean travel on Tremont jump george
Zimmerman from behind according to George
and start bashing his head into a car into the hydeia jumped from behind when
you've been following somebody for twenty minutes
you're walking back your truck Tom yeah CRB so from behind its very easy if
you're less outlet and I it O'Neill
less re-litigate that on the back I think that this is a tragedy
I think that it's horrible what happened to this man and his family
by I think that it's also the case that
although these tragedies happen irritatingly rare
and unfortunately that's part 26 young black men
I actually think one or two may have been girls have been murdered
by white people using stand your ground defense is who got of
in Florida since a long time really don't like racial lot
then the you planning on it but that's how it's being used
yeah I don't think that there's an effort to kill black people using that
law
new mccabe yeah I I I embrace your inner
idealist but never came
I don't know that we make a backup thanks Neil thinking about biking