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Elon Musk you know him he created
Tesla and Space X uh he had some interesting tweets
I and some comments about how he fears
robots more than he fears nuclear war let's look at a couple tweet
it's worth reading super intelligence by Bostrom
we need to be super careful with AI artificial intelligence potentially more
dangerous than nukes
hope we're not just the biological bootloader for digital super intelligent
unfortunately that increasingly possible
now the book is talking about is called super intelligent
path dangers and strategies by Nick
Bostrom we've got an excerpt from the book we cannot widely assumed that a
super intelligence
will necessarily share any of the final value stereotypically associated
with wisdom and intellectual development in humans
scientific curiosity benevolent concern for others
spiritual enlightenment and contemplation
pronunciation of material acquitted a taste for refined culture
or for the physical pleasures in life humility
and selflessness and so forth now
if you've watched the other clips that we've posted from this episode we went
from the bowler
I sis and all this other bad stuff to our I don't know how much for that
all that good stuff about humanity that he's talking we have going on
in the world right now I know I was just thinking that
in like yeah where we're at night yeah I'll
yeah week after the nicest orange kinda
after I'm gone down to not come to a now
look right lot musk obviously knows oh I
about the future a lot this is a guy who's on
or Brent have this getting out of this planet and at least while we're on this
planet may be using some electric cars before we destroyed or bringing
how much the credence to give his tweet in this idea that the robots are gonna
get it before the nuclear war
first time I never say never to anything never always
yes she is one in the I do not put it past anyone to create some kind of
Mumbai
your own why would you wanna do you yeah I don't understand why you would want to
create something that smarter than you right what is it more that we're just
gonna lose control of them if you any of the scientific
sci-fi movies like it all that we try to do something good
but then of course they undertake no there's a lot of comedy terminator
one conversations articles about like a benevolent robot a robot
yes is kinda have tasked with protecting the human
then okay let thinkable worst-case scenario to protect a humanist to
protect human from harming another human well maybe the best way to protect them
from harm each other is a lot of them all into cages
well that'll do it which is that was iRobot yeah can either read a book or
you can
I think the world's made movie but that is exactly what happened the robot heard
because they realize that we were killing each other
so then they turned out my problem with these kinda argument and yes I would
argue that you on my left
is a is a future I would argue that he has a
here's some very good ideas about how human
society and can and could
move towards the future you on my though is not a philosopher
you one must is actually not a scientist he's a very rich man who hires a lot a
very smart people to do things that
he things are good things to do in
most of the time those are very good things to do but let's not you know
put him on a really big pedestal second to that
I think that there is a this entire conversation is predicated on the idea
that artificial intelligence is capable of what you're talking about many
scientists don't think that's the case
we have future is like Ray Kurzweil amateur *** think there's gonna be a
singularity we're going to be downloaded into the internet and we're not gonna
need our physical bodies anymore and I saw the matrix yeah
a lot a lot a lot neuroscientist in a lot a
computational neuroscientist computer engineers who work in that field
are vary a a
skeptical that we will ever get a I to this place
we know we have the computing power we don't understand enough about how the
brain works to be able to build a computer that
your day in Munich and actual human brain activity right so that is an
interesting point to
and that brings me to my next question is do you think we've already started so
in other words we have the technology we're all walking around with a heads up
in our hand I we don't have an iPhone we're all doing this stuff all day long
to the technology parties there and then the other part
the intelligence part is just us it's our brains that we're constantly putting
into it
all day long with our Twitter and Instagram and all that so we're we're
becoming the mission
ourselves right well yeah
bordering on a computer that way you know neurons firing a
did you know in a certain direction and Mike Wheatley Rd
wired for that and in a big way you know
we jest yes we understand most about us right or wrong again
make where emotionally intelligent in that way
and I just go back to make why I'm just why
likely why I like it spiders and ants are walking around me like I'm
I wish novak humans were made today can crash at
and they can step on it and destroy yes like one day I just don't I don't
understand that that's interesting so do you think humans fundamentally had some
desire to destroy ourselves what we love
move Godzilla movies and we love destruction movies is there something
you're talking about their human weird psyche it's like it because we do you
say it
on the top and you know the food pyramid so to speak it's like there is some
fascination with creating something that is
bigger than I mean we aren't fascinated with God
and the idea of God and the idea the big nest you know that there is something
bigger than us like
why not create that right para real quick is that it is yes or no
no okay thank you I
I think the issue here well first of all I have to say the brain and
computer do not work the same way fundamentally they don't work the same
way not something we have to understand
it's hard to understand that because them media tells us that they worked as
a waiter that easy to use analogies like
just like in a computer your brain doesn't but it's *** there are a
lot of people
who try to model computers after the human brain and they've been very
successful making computer smarter and faster and better
what is a fundamental difference between like the brain
and like the computer and how they're wired so
when we talk about NN this I'm
you might even want to cut that that will be I'm gonna try to keep it short
but
I can tell you just from personal experience and go into this was you know
almost 10 years ago maybe now when I was in graduate school I was working in an
earth science lab where we took
and mouth neurons which at the brain cells in it for the money for the plate
and week and weekend
calculate all the different ways that they fired and I was working with
a physicist who is now live Alamos and using computational neurophysiology
where he would literally look at three neurons in a row
and you would look at types up networks and say if this one fires in this one
buyer
how does this one react if this one fires in this one fires has at
three neurons you millions of the things in your brain it the capabilities of the
brain are so
far beyond the computational power that we understand how
computers are faxed right they can hold a lot of data
but their reasoning abilities that computers have
are nowhere near the reasoning abilities that the human brain has been able to
hand find another way they can beat us in jeopardy but they Campbell
exactly and also an author I gotta make this point
we still don't know in the neurosciences how
consciousness arises conduct himself how does it go from
individual neurons to being awake and alert nowhere
and until we understand that which is kinda the Holy Grail neuroscience I
have absolutely no fear that a computer
is going to become self-aware and take over yeah that's great
II by a bot how long till we have human robot marriage
I fad
well dress and undress hailed its gonna had we not
which I'm said 2013 yeah I'm going with that