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eleven talking all-day profiles
things that the answer on the edges of eight for up to the political system
crafted largely by money
and not just altercation perfect for nine e here's on this program i've
interviewed
and and one of the people who is out there on the front lines
fighting in that battle
to un corrupt our political system a turn power back to the people first
fracture frankly for the people to take the power themselves
and uh... it
bright out of the leader of that
and uh... also understand to be a new movie coming out about you thomas
lindsey the attorney an executive director a co-founder of the community
environmental legal defense fund cell death c_e_o_ d f dot org is the website
thomas welcome back the program
yep experiment background
seems to have you on uh...
by the way wins movie coming out i got a note from
well in any case
well wake up by the end of this year but that we're going to cover some of the
work that we've been doing two hundred fifty community drive you out there who
are affected
that that is marvelous you are
you are so uh... you're the work that you have done at for so many years so so
you know so enthusiastically and and
underpaid it's like a pack of october district left uh... is so deserving of
recognition it's marvelous so bear hugs pennsylvania state legislature there
there was this
this
house bill nineteen fifty did did tom corbett sinus thing
do it every month
sweet so tell us
uh... what
what is this what does it mean and how does it
go up against the work that you've been doing and and and so many other people
to stay pennsylvania
well thank you for getting and on helpful nineteen fifty and what the
governor signed into law on the fourteenth we have to go back all the
way to november two thousand pound and they would then november that year about
that but if that bird
became one of the first major media valley through that date to capital
local bill of rights
within their municipality
wijakpanh hiker cracking for natural gas
uh... within thirty
anthony bedford ordnance that they adopted which contain the bill of rights
their rights of the people fit for the clean air clean water and at the federal
energy future in the type of thing
they'd they even took a step beyond uh... banning cried or cracking whip to
luke
horrible practice lou
up blowing up the tail underground to force these natural gap for the purpose
for harvesting
they actually banned all natural gas extraction within the thirtieth
pittsburgh taking up a m
on the fact that a lot of gas company could actually planted duro under
catholic cemeteries within city of pittsburgh
other power outrage at the guy with a pity and following their indeed you had
about a dozen municipalities
uh... mostly in the western part of the state
do it now adopted band outright ban fun hugger cracking metro gap extraction
that that the pallet which estimated halliburton crazy they're the ones who
invented this uh...
it will who got legalized by because uh...
g *** cheney who used to the c_e_o_ of halliburton
uh... you know walked over to the uh... which regulatory agency was it
and and
probably burke
again said you're gonna change the rules body and
and make this legal
uh... sunday night
and in the mean at bally's and i'm playing it what they've been bhangra
wild out thank you we can regulate idr packet with the way to regulate the
practice to make a play
as though we're going to ban it
and in banning it they ran up against b
corporation that have been attempting to extract the captive the tiger franking
method of route that they have a plane yet
and but a turn for the legislature
and ap the legislature
to adopt legislation that would make it even legal for municipalities the band
natural gap extract them within their community
and that bill which we can help them i think that due to find that the law two
days ago but the governor
uh... does exactly that
it like that
municipality a crop that date and pennsylvania of the authority to
actually banned natural gas extractor within their minute validate but what
happened to the jeffersonian notion of power being derived from the people
and that uh... power at the local level is that because the greatest power and
and it diminishes ends in strength is a goes up the chain
well i think that's pretty much got out the window what
what caracol unity where develop happen in pennsylvania over the past
accomplished out
is that not only did the legislature band these municipalities in other words
preempt them from banning natural gas extractor within a minute balik
but they also have now babushka public utility commission which in the
non-elected board
of the individual collected by the governor confirmed by the planet
do actually have the power to overt
burned municipal word length of time run counter to the new law
so not only did they make new law which that we're going to strip view of the
ability to control or regulate that recap extraction within your community
but we're also going to make the use the that un-elected
regulatory agency
uh... we're going to give them but
power to nullify democratically enacted local word and prove that the municipal
level with an pennsylvania
but now it came to the public that law
it's actually the
stepping into the paper the metro gap corporation
we we want to take the burden from u of trying to fight people aboard an
approved
we're going to allow you to use the state regulatory agency to overturn the
democratically adopted local ordinances with them
they so would be safe to say had to return thomas lindsey cell that c_e_o_
the f dot or get over to this website its extradite
the community there mentally glistens phone
uh... thomas of executive director co-founder
thomas what it would be safe to say that
the reason why john corbett and the reason why the legislature of
pennsylvania has decided to side with the harder franking companies
rather than the citizens who've actually gotten together in through democratic
process passed laws against this
has to do with the corruption of politics at the state level by
money coming from these big companies
rather i think that the part of it what was often included a prequel legislation
with an impact
which that the gap em pay-per-view drill here that the county for them fate of a
panic and imposing impact the though
third revenue to be made off natural gas extraction now in pennsylvania promo
municipal slide in terms of revenue coming into the
state and local coffers
but i think that was a powerful in front of the well but at different times of
the corruption of the love of the legislatures i'd i think we've come to a
point where we x
back government operate that way
that the problem is not necessarily jumped the corporation for the coming in
to do the extraction
but it if actually picked government itself which is uh... tablets been
republic frame to enable that after extraction to occur info at upenn that
that they get on the pilot validates what you have been government routinely
stepping in on the part of the extractors
with under the pretense undreamed but you can accelerate the extraction walk
of fame time protecting public health and environment so thomason in the
manner so we're left uh... watch
what's being done about this what can be done about
well what can be done at birmingham alley stepping forward and trapping ban
uh... you know on it faith
they bought the point of a while that that happened could well we think need
happened as a result of sort right in pennsylvania you have a hundred and and
local governments of knock out the word of food banning things from natural gas
extracting the factory farm
swear that the bush it's way up the change that date competition of absolute
power corrupts
this is the uh... the equivalence of civil disobedience silence of the
individual
or people sitting down on the streets and i will not be
these are inter
talents the intact our cities
yet actually
feeding me *** government that that understanding there were two a crisis
point nothing else to go to work we need to be very beautiful government actually
turn them
uh... up again the state and federal levels of government structural flaws so
is the next sabbath
written by the naval pilot
says the next step for lighter franking companies to start sponsoring people to
run for political office at the level of local in
local news for governments
i think that
probably what's going to happen to have been happening now incorporation of the
dumped millions of dollars into the local initiative campaign to get people
injured amazing
so uh... and and you're keeping up the good fight and you've got give more more
towns who are interested in insane now
we now have thousand new mexico illinois budget victory at work before her
beginning to step up to the plate do you think like for corporations coffee
arrive twelve i recognize the state though he's a preemptive edit gatos go
thomas lindsay
of one of the genuine fighters in the trenches uh... their cell death c_e_o_
details dot org check in the community environmental legal defense i think it's
on this
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