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on this very graphic the allegedly kidder alleged and self-confessed you
know i think we go overboard sometimes with the alleged plans
uh... i think this is the self-confessed shooter
of than both norway terrorist incidents has been assessed as
insane by a psychiatrist who have been evaluating him
and uh... is especially a picture of him that's over my shoulder
you know who it looks like
juliana signs
well they're both scandinavian today there's a similar look there isn't it
india we're not talking about filling this out for a document on this very
bright
and uh... bargain where he was
okay yarborough scandinavian ameen
it's a very pure uh...
gene for over there
uh... so
i believe that uh... that was so he was being accused of are other he stands
accused of both of those of those shootings
and um... he had this can determine that he was suffering from paranoid
schizophrenic at the time of both of those incidents one of the lead to the
death
of seventy seven people
an injured a hundred and fifty one this was on july twenty second and
psychiatrist who said he was in a psychotic
at that time now this is going to have to be reviewed by some a forensic
psychiatrist he's going to be tried in its role
it's likely he would go to psychiatric care
rather than present he admits to carrying out the attacks
but he pleaded not guilty
and his argument was that the attacks the were atrocious
necessary for his campaign to defend europe against the muslim invasion he
claimed was imminent
and two psychiatrists who interviewed him thirteen different times concluded
that he lives in his own quote
delusional universe were all his thoughts and acts ard guided by his
delusions
he's thirty two years old
this is difficult situation list because as we've talked about many many times
i think
meticulously i think we'll do the story no i thought i was looking at a picture
of her he has two different colorized
uh... while
i think it's just a lighting left
i think that there's certain crimes where you can't possibly be and normal
state of mind to commit them
therefore
what do we just say anyone who commit certain crimes by definition shouldn't
be imprisoned they should be in psychiatric care and let me give you an
example
uh... lecture you know even even looking at this very superficially
to commit the *** any type of *** that is in cold blood or not clearly
manslaughter
i don't think you can really be in in a correct state of mind to decide i'm
going to *** someone now
he might have been very habana certain situation heat of passion or someone you
know has just been killed
and you'll actually out
you know maybe maybe that that we could argue there that that's that somebody
who doesn't know what they're doing is wrong and is not is not in a psychotic
or or schizophrenic state of mind
but any kind of
premeditated
button mass *** like this wouldn't it by could could you really be in a normal
state of mind
and and do that
i don't know i'm not sure that you could
no are think it's
donnie i guess that's possible yes but i i think it's safe to assume that anyone
who does something like this
probably has has something wrong i mean look at it and i think they know their
level
***
anybody kuku
no who *** kids based on an attraction to children an attraction to
preview best of children
is is that not by definition mental illness
i don't know if i guess the differences this being mentally ill make you unfit
to stand trial or
criminally insane to the extent that
the court requires you don't know what you're doing is wrong
at the same time the allot of these of religious religiously motivated
terroristic actions whether domestic right wing tere
or or uh... foreign terrible whatever it is
most of those people would say
i realize what i'm doing is against the law however i don't really think i'm
wrong here i think i'm actually doing something right because it's a means to
an end
right is is that insanity
r_l_ really i so many questions when we talk about
their criminally insane they're not fit to stand trial because so many crimes to
me could only be committed
by people who are not of the of of sound mind right i think it's pretty safe to
assume that that this guy is insane
and then a lot of cases uh...
being in one of those psychiatric clinics is is similar to being in prison
although i'm in a guest after seeing the pictures of the norwegian present seeing
how it's basically like a three-star hotel
uh... i'm would guess that the psychiatric uh... facilities are
probably even nicer than that yeah i i haven't seen we we definitely did the
take a look at the prison system
in norway
but we did not look at what the psychiatric facilities would be like i
mean you're you're right a lot of our assumption is that it's not as bad
to be in a psychiatric facility the rest of your life
but compared to being in prison
that that's probably not always true uh... i don't know when to quit you know
they varies from country to country varies from region to region
but they're there must be situations were being in the psychiatric
ward of a prison or simply being in a psychiatric hospital against your will
is just as bad or worse as being in prison party uh... i've seen stories of
of uh...
poorly funded poorly run psychiatric clinics where
i mean basically this kind of people
barge people running around uh...
you know from their faces around uh...
don't completely crazy like like horrible horrible conditions right uh...
liabilities
no i don't know are i've read about these but the and a lot of money even in
this country
uh... lot of money real they were just in movies
no no the these are real the these places that's com
it can be pretty bad