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they should be eligible of a time and a half all
a couple days ago Tom we had a you on another issue
I am chairman of the subcommittee
that deals with though primary health care and we hold the hearing
to ask the following question: and the question
was what can the united states learn
in terms of providing universal health care and cost-effective quality care
twelve people from other countries around the world and we had some
excellent panelists or who joined us from Camelot
are from Taiwan are somebody was an expert
on the French health care system in somebody all who was from Denmark
talking about the dangers health care system
and my Republican colleagues had you know a couple folks who
were not so pathetic I to any gold
any government involvement in health care at all so was an interesting
discussion
well we had a young position named Danielle Martin
of from Toronto all-white what did very very well in taking on
are some of my republican colleagues and defending universal health care
in-camera not armed the exchange
the video has gone no more lies by relating to Saba 200,000 now
people can't find that video on my web sites and does not sign a doc got it so
it's worth
watching the see what happens when conservative Republicans are confronted
with the reality have a strong are universal
are cost-effective healthcare system as exist in
in Canada all I think a lot of people
are concerned all about what was going on with the CIA and and and
some refined fines speech are as you have heard from me for
years now in my view the intelligence
agencies in this country the NSA CIA are out of control
are we certainly need to know about the torture
a practice under the Bush administration are in the CIA has got to understand
that they work for the american people
and for the united states congress they are not an independent entity
they could do whatever they want to do on Monday of last week
are are we did a Dr some a busted
are what's called an all nighter our people were on the flop
all night talking about the planetary crisis
of climate change and I think the point was made very effectively
are over and over again to hide
high like this issue we just cannot question on the road
that there is no debate on the issue of climate change
in terms of the scientific community well over ninety five percent a
peer-reviewed articles
that discuss climate change acknowledge their climate change
Israel are it is caused by man-made
activities are in it is already causing severe damage
on the planet and that damage and destruction will only get worse in years
to come
if we don't cut back on greenhouse gas emissions so I applaud the senator
barbara boxer Somerville
are Sheldon feingold Brian summer Brian Schatz
and others who organized the about I participated in it
I thought it was an important exercise that so that a lot that's been going on
we still have about
a minute left in this side welt no water no moral tale somewhat ok
if that's not enough be a we are dealing go on I and some other senators
Elizabeth Warren John to sleep our bet with
on all of the postal unions are in our effort to make sure that
we create a situation by which there are not continue
cops in postal or in the postal system
are in recent years the Postal Service system a scene and up
tech an increase in their revenue they doing better I
and we want to give them the tools ought to do extremely well we do not want to
see what unemployment is so high right now
are massive cuts in the postal assist them in terms of jobs lost
and the speed up mail delivery cutbacks 0
are paying attention to the postal service and making sure
that we protect those jobs and the postal service
is also a very large you should forget I know you've been a real champion
legislation I senator Bernie Sanders here with us it's our brunch with Bernie
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and welcome back Paul
in South Lyon Michigan you are on the air with senator Sanders
yesterday gentlemen our thanks for all your hard work center including
staying up all night are three weeks ago today
you and i discussed on this show the Koch brothers another selfish
billionaires
owning and controlling the Republican Party five days later Harry Reid
thankfully incorrectly
started talking about it coincidence I don't know my point is are there will be
zero progress made on any issue until the american people wake up
involved are all of the do nothing republicans virtually all a public
republicans
agree on major issues they're all just raise a minimum wage
paying veterans benefits unemployment insurance food stamps
they're all just a woman's right to choose and raising taxes on millionaires
is a true center that they're all up purse hold your
you're absolutely right you're absolutely right and by the way
up what Paul is mentioning is and of was last week or
early this week other Majority Leader Harry Reid
one on the floor and he gave a brilliant speech talking about the Koch brothers a
by the way
if you go to my website you'll find that speech is what we set out to a large
audience because I thought it was such a good speech
up I want to take a minute to deal with polls
question because it is the norm asleep important
the way the republicans gain influence
in win elections is simply because many many americans
do not understand what they stand for and how
White Queen right-wing extremists they all this
is not the Republican Party up Dwight D
ice allow it is not the Republican Party richard nixon
in terms of policy not the republican party even
have one already this is now a party is Paul
indicated heavily controlled by right-wing extremists billionaires like
the Koch brothers
and let me just took off what these people believe it
these people believe that retirement security
Social Security should not be done by the federal government they want a
private I said
or at the least make massive cuts in social security
they do not want the federal government involved
in medicare they think we should privatize Medicare or at the very least
make major cuts in medicaid care make major cuts
in medicaid these people and particularly are
the Koch brothers who have made mostly their money in fossil fuels
they want to abolish agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency
so they can pollute as much as they can with
impunity these guys do not not only do they not want to raise the minimum wage
which is now AA an abysmally low seven and a quarter and how we were raised to
10 10 an hour
they want to abolish the concept above the minimum wage
in other words if in Ohio unemployment areas desperate people
of what's the work for three or four bucks an hour for them that is freedom
their understanding of freedom
is that you abolish every major piece of legislation
past in last eighty years which protect working families on the middle class
which protect the elderly
the children the sick wellbore that is their understanding of freedom
so if you are seventy years amazing you're diagnosed with cancer and you
have no money and you have no health insurance
Hey You of three you don't have medicare
you don't have social security you're a three-person
free to dogged and that is how they look
at the world what their ideology senator Bernie Sanders with us live from capitol
hill will be back
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well senator Sanders
arm my question is do you think the size any
population of the US at a disadvantage for the US
in terms of trade agreements because a other companies are smaller in size
smaller population so they're companies can sell
their products in our country to more people and
are our products campus well won't be so that to as many people on the other
foreign countries
are ashes no I don't the it
that way a to be honest with you are
the way I see our trade policies and this goes back tonight after Inc after
an
permanent normal trade relations with China but it's important to understand
are and by the way takes us through trans-pacific partnership trade
agreement which
you know we're looking at right now all of these trade agreements
of happily happily pushed and supported
are by Wall Street and the major
corporations in this country and the bottom line there were a lot of aspects
to a trade agreement but the most important I think
is they want the opportunity to be able to shut down their plants in the United
States not pay workers 10 15 20 bucks an hour
but moved to vietnam move to China with people are working
for much much low or wages and then when they get to those countries
they can bring sell their products back into the united states
and it is not just blue-collar jobs increasingly it is white collar jobs as
well
information are tied jobs that can be done
up what I mean I think everybody has had the experience
are dealing with props an airline or are some large company
we are talking to somebody who was are from the Philippines
or someplace else making pennies
an hour so all I am very a proud that
recently other Majority Leader Harry Reid said you know what
the Trans Pacific Partnership bill supported by all the major corporations
is like coming to the floor above the senate that's where he is right now and
I support that
decision these trade agreements have benefited
a large corporations are they have been I real
are they have heard just millions and millions of working people in terms of
job loss
and and an economic race to the bottom Ron
and Le Bec make main and I
by there on you that's correct you're on the air center centers
some other legislators often claim success preventing cuts to Medicare
but in effect it's cut all the time the annual deductible start as a few years
ago
copay is risen dramatically and so forth
your comments please thank you of you're right run
what can I tell you are right i mean what we're trying to do is spend of
significantly were Scott's arm
as I think most listeners no
arm many republicans I'll want to
and medicare %uh that would
as it is currently structured are and converted into
a about your program where r our seniors like given seven thousand dollars a year
in
asked to go out and get private insurance which is just a horrendous
idea there are other people who want to raise the eligibility level
our four seniors from 65 to 70
are a terrible idea all
there are others who want to make burying
are different types up cots of my own view Ron
is that the medicare program has basically worked well
we need to strengthen it not cut it and in fact what I believe
is as a nation we need a Medicare for All program right now it's
we have medicare slaughtered 865 all what I think we need is to take the
concept of medicare
which is an biologic single-payer health care system
expanded to our entire population and when you do that
you provide health care to be man woman and child and you'll do it in a much
more cost-effective way
are then we currently are due Pat in star Prairie Wisconsin you're on the air
sander Sanders and thanks for listening KTF
thanks Tom they are senator says centers in tom byron but
body you're too young to remember charles kuralt CVS knows but my parents
ran
just favorite restaurant was get answered and I've been working in this
industry all my life as I grew up in the business
the i'm sixty-seven years all I probably got 60 for 61 or 62 years in the
industry
and I've never been ashamed of an industry that I work in an all my life
I'm a hotel restaurant is on today
and yes they were you running on the edge or show yesterday senator
you had mentioned the abuser new menu preferred a McDonald's in
and Burger King let me tell you where the real abuses on this
on this up I'm manager salary
it's an attempt employees especially like states in Wisconsin I read on the
Minnesota Wisconsin border
Wisconsin with not give credit the way %eh we tell you much before
they were they what %uh there's there's also one abolished
the constable Inouye's well let me tell you the restaurant industry as the
powerful National Restaurant Association
has abolished because minimum wage for tipped employees hasn't gone up for
nearly 40 years because they're trying to raise the minimum wage growth
they just increase the credit right across the border Minnesota we got the
you got Minnesota which is raising its minimum wage to $10 the 1015 are with
not get credit
you can see the difference between 231 an hour and ten dollars an hour
amarah an employee can make can make a about 4,000 to 5,000 dollars at
met minimum more in Minnesota bat we just have a minute left
they might not let me just pick up at thank you very much
operating that issue are so that everybody is clear what pat is talking
about
him within the concept of minimum wage today
you have another level which says the review on tips
you only get a small percentage all the minimum wage
so you have workers today whose minimum wage maybe I don't know exactly two
three dollars an hour in the rest I gotta come from Debs well you know what
there are some places and sometimes we are not making good tips
so perhaps point is that there are people today on a given day
who may end up making four dollars an hour or five dollars an hour
the bill that we're looking at by the way pat substantially raising
the minimum wage but kept the well-used
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Larry in Tucson Arizona you're on the air is senator Sanders
thank you tom and thank you senator Sanders
both for what you're doing a my question is
so you already addressed the children in poverty
climate change employment the
and and I'm wondering if I is if the government may have
the the wherewithal and maybe inside the veterans
fares the to start a WPA
type saying where a the government supports
the organic farm in indoor and outdoor farm in
and trains people to be good organic farmers guarantees
food quality and food supply with the weather
changes come in we could be devastated by storm across the midwest at the right
time
or Texas or Oklahoma RBI for chicken supply
anything so why won't the government work and the government
start like a WPA that would employ somebody like me a 59-year-old
some I disabled veteran who nobody in Tucson wants to give the job
and other people who may have PTSD and
and other challenges they work well in gardens with a little help
sa I wonder if if healthy organic food
isn't the solution two healthy children
and healthy elderly and healthy veterans who were trying to rehabilitate
and and Larry in poverty and once everybody's welfare it
they don't think about whether they need a job at exxon where texaco rattler we
gotta thank you
a sober NEA answer well lowry raises a number of
important issues arm there is no question
are that there is fall more consciousness
about food quality today than we have
ever seen before I think in this country release for many many years
are there is no question that there is a great worry about
a trial to be city where we by the way as a result of a number of programs
maybe turning the page little bit and addressing that very very serious
issue our people I think increasingly
all want to know that the food that they were eating
that their that they are reading into giving to their kids
is healthy food and there has been a huge
increase are in the organic food industry
I could tell you in vermont I think twenty percent about dairy farmers now
do it organically
we have hundreds and hundreds
all fall all organic are
a vegetable farmers are in in the state and that number is growing and I think
that's true all over the country
are I can also pick up on on larry's point
when he says that for PTSD week we know there are number programs out there
larry
where veterans dealing with PTSD are doing well
by working in agriculture so I think you know you put your point has merit are we
want to grow
organic food we want to put veterans are
to work doing work that will help them address their problems
also I think it's a good idea Linda
in buckley washington let's take a BCS you're on the air center centers
senator Sanders are
might question has to do with how credit report jerry is
appeared determine employment and car insurance rates
none of which has anything to do with the ability of the company to drive a
car
or others will skills qualifications for
job and I was wondering if there's anything
being turned to change your credit report three years I'll intellectually
that a question and I think that many people
a share they they share that concern
in a 10 the explosions that we have seen in recent years in terms of technology
is that everybody knows everything about you
and you know sometimes people are late for whatever reason inadvertently or
they don't have the money and they don't pay a bill
and their credit rating against impacted
and they can't get a job my woodland was asking what does that have to do with
your ability to get a job
region have any money three years before I think she's right and I think you are
seeing
I can tell you that legislation is going to be passed tomorrow
to address the Linda but those are exactly the kinds of concerns
that a whole lot of people have are in terms of how technology is beaming
being used in a counterproductive way
Danny and dubuque Iowa you're on the air senator Sanders
a time thanks for the great showy do every day
I and to the future president of the united states senator Sanders
wanna thank you for your service has got a lot of
Iowa know what you think about charter schools and how they
are are onto are be taken away from
very very child that needs to be school or
in all a main Danny I missed the first part of your question I'm sorry I do
what what do I think about what
that our charter Cairo charter schools okay good
okay man II myself was actually brought up and won by a whisker
it was a Catholic school saw my fault when they paid for my education they
were
that would happen their pain for the Catholic
upbringing and their pay public friends now public schools
to procure arm and
I mean I my mom i sat down with their share
had it to do over again sure it did everything but
to the public schools just because
there's a a buyer for my to educate people West
yup well you know obviously you know we have a history in this country where
most
people are specially people don't have a lot of money
get their education through public schools are certainly did
most americans do I and the gold where
is to create the best schools that we possibly
are can have in a very competitive
global economy the walk to Matt
come here with you let's try this again senator can you hear me
I can hear you loud and clear okay his respect for those bad cell phone ads
very glad did you wanna did you wanna bet restate a wrap up and have your
previous comments that
that my got dropped when the audio crashed
I know I think we got it I mean raise a very legitimate concern about the
overreach of security
and intelligence agencies in the United States a spying on the american people
are any is absolutely right a combat and terrorism is important but we don't have
to go after
99.999 percent about people
with nothing to do with terrorism okay on nicole
in Arcadia Calif thanks for calling you're on the air with senator Sanders
hyperness senator Sanders time
hello i'm kind because the USTA is set to allow US chicken to be shipped to
China for processing
and then that *** back here for consumption which they already do for
fish
and but aside from the lower cleanliness standards and the fact that the USTA
is not going to have an inspection office over there
it just goes to show another lost American well-paying jobs
and it's also a huge waste of your and it's also not going to have
any labeling requirements such as chicken are on the chickens
Mike Judge emote don't have to be labeled just wondering if there is
anything that we can do about that
and also if you run in 2016 usually have my vote
thank you very much on Nicole
are you touch again on on a number of important issues
hard for me to imagine why we should be sending chechans to China to get them
process the Sun back into the united states why is that
and the answer is that labor in china is
significantly cheaper are the answer is that environmental standards in China
are
are significantly weaker are the answer is the regulations and safety
inspections and China
on other strong as they are in the United States and that is just
unacceptable really really years are and
it is not only a job issue and it is a job issue
but it is a food quality issue people
want to know that the quality of their food is good
but the processing is done in a safe way in a clean way
and not work should be done in the United States America and what I will
say no call
I think you are seeing more and more attention
being paid are today are
to the need are to
how products made in processed
here in the United States of America every poll that I have seen
tells me that that is the very top of people's lives
few years ago are got involved are with the year smithsonian
Institute Missoni m museums when I noticed that many other products that
they were selling
were made from all over the world and not significantly here in the United
States
they have to a significant degree change that but we have got to do more
and we've got to put pressure on manufacturers to say we want jobs
here in the United States do you work here in the United States
I think that's what the american people want
Mark Taylor Canfield the reporter
in Seattle Washington has a question for the senator
hi Tom are senator Sanders it's a pleasure speaking with mister I remember
when you visit Seattle a few years ago to talk about
they should have rent control and affordable housing on behalf of our city
council member to the Castro
but today I called about the Time Warner Comcast merger
we have a new group in Seattle called progressive radio Northwest
trying to bring back some other progressive voices to the airways in
seattle and portland and we're having a big panel
for discussion here on March 26 and I'll be one other panelists
one of the main issues that have been reporting on as a journalist at the fact
that the United States
has dropped a number 46 on the Reporters Without Borders
World Press index something that I cannot be proud of as a journalist
and this new Time Warner Comcast merger has brought up the whole issue of
corporate media consolidation again
I wanted to tell you that I testified before the SEC at the last round of
hearings on media ownership
and I had in my hand to reports that were commissioned by the SEC
done by professor Z and Napoli an itch from the university is
Michigan and Delaware and this report showed some the negative effects on
corporate of corporate media consolidation
if they hand and I mark mark here mark
i cant I can't have you given a speech we've only got three minutes left at
like to but I think I got locked box point
are and everything from oxford is right arm
you know Tom you and I have discussed many many
times %uh the degree to which
are in a nation politically divided
are the degree to which a right-wing
our talk show host in some cases real right-wing extremists
a dominate the area dominate are
media markets all over this country I think correct me if I'm wrong
a Tom but my guess is about 95 percent
up talk radio's right-wing yeah yeah absolutely
art and you know and that's absurd and now what we're looking at
is a merger are
between you know with with time all 10
are becoming are even bigger
all which will give enormous power to this very large corporation by the way
not only in terms of
media per se are in cable
all but also in terms of all
are the Internet are so you're going to end up with a company that has huge
influence
over Internet access not to mention cable that is a very
very bad idea and this whole fight
of for a media in this country
are which is not controlled by a handful of major corporations
is one of the most important I issues that we can focus on
senator we have about 35 seconds left you wanna wrap up the week
you let me wrap up are just you mentioned
something but i think is just up enormous consequence
and that tommy is that we don't get our act together
are this nation will find itself solemnly
as an oligarchy ok form of society
worry handful love multinational corporations and billionaires
controlling not only the economic life for the nation
about the political life as well as a result of this the sash for citizens
united Supreme Court decision
people like the Koch brothers are now able to spend hundreds and hundreds of
millions of dollars
electing the candidate of their choice not as we struggle
are that we have got to engage in and we've got a winner
senator thanks so much for being with us again this week thank you
it is always be heading out be sure to check out brings website Sanders dot
center dot got
and we will be back with anything goes Friday and after this
long term