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leo gerard is on the line with us he is the international president of the
united steelworkers union u_s_ w dot word is the website
you know one of the one of the one of the most thoughtful and articulate
uh... spokespeople
in the entire labor movement might be in the present jord welcome back to the
program
and having a hard time here in the time
can you hear me now
but better yet off
yeah i i think the dar
uh... our feed into our phone system for some reason isn't isn't a very the
world's best we gotta fix this
uh... u
did you write this article met how to make money off the u_s_ debt if your
name is some snowball
that death telling about that was over the border dividend couple weeks ago
where
the uh...
simpson bowls guys go out simpson and bowls
they go out together and independently and i think they charge forty grand a
pop
free speech they give
so they make forty grand a party of the speech but they what they want to do is
they want to see scenes eating catholic
it's an insipid typically india rate that uh...
we shouldn't uh... do anything to the
all courage in the super-rich
but uh... anybody who's got a pensioner anybody who'd getting some help to get
through
whether they're disabled or not uh... we had a punish them 'cause they're not
filthy rich
i mean and we saw that
i think it's been the most disgusting uh...
twenty four hours and
my adult life time in u_s_ politics
with bainer and with uh... oh
the n_r_a_ today and
when you're see that coming on the heels of uh...
the president going out of his way to try to get a deal
led to the point that you see that the president was using
p_o_ dissipates and you know it's winston certificate planet did what he
did
uh... but you know
uh... i've been in a lot of negotiations and you don't always have as much
control or did you want and here he was the trying to give bandera
uh... drama bone so they can get it passed
and what we saw is that uh...
a republican caucus the doesn't give a good darren about
ordinary folks in america
but in fact banners bill
i mean i'm so proud of the jump on and he was cutting food stamps here is
cutting student grant he was
he was putting everything that you could cut
well still uh... oh letting those that make
the million and marvin the only ones that would have to pay a little extra
and and you don't thank you for the first million
yeah and it was keeping the second million yet it was keeping their tax
breaks interactive media that most people who make over a million dollars
don't actually make it as payroll taxes companies can deduct from their e from
their corporate income taxes payroll over a million dollars suck most c_e_o_
his pays urge your captain a million dollars now make their second million
other twentieth million
by city you know was stocks as as dividends as is is carried interest me
bmx month fifteen percent income tax
f
so it's uh... it's uh...
the said they've really isn't much and
so what and uh... it's *** i mean i i said for quite some time
it's not a
it's not a
at that best the slope
and uh...
but the same time
that the president was trying to do something about who's trying to do what
he campaigned on
and uh...
these guys
because just are so disconnected from reality that it's sit
it's hard to believe in fact i said to a friend that said
in all they being balanced approach federally
uh... the v
all custom built their head in virginia that need to uh...
start to vote against clean energy they need to uh...
big gains manufacturing they need to be for millionaires
and may be that way in two thousand fourteen we can clean house and put
people in their care about
the future of not just the future of the country but the future of the people
that make up the country
i think that's lol
all the you know
to thomas frank's what's the matter with kansas in a slowly but surely the uh...
republicans across this country people who vote republican with uh... think of
themselves as republicans are realizing that
these guys in congress who call themselves republicans are not
representing their interest there representing interests because brothers
in a billionaire bodies period yeah tell you i i get up pretty early in the
morning i'd be ewga trade in the office really religious about conan
after may turn on the television i watch morning joe
i watch morning joe simply because i wanna see whether whether right winger
thanks
and uh...
when i think back
the joe scarborough to the world whether where the extreme right wingers in
nineteen ninety four
and although the moderates
yeah and uh... you know joe was ranting raving about how these
extremists are destroying his party's
for gun control these were taken the assault-weapon bluff
uh... it shows you how far
uh... author of the the sort of off the beaten track these guys are there just
disconnected from reality
barry goldwater would not recognize this republican party
and speaking of the recall when the qualified in the primary
bread and speed americorps i mean he enjoyed as an hour and and dot every
person and i mean many of that
they've richard nixon i mean most republicans
of of you know my father's generation
or or mine when i was a teenager
supported
organized labor's right to right to organize and honey intimate they might
mind i've always liked what they pretended now they have no is an
understanding that it was unnecessary balance to make capitalism work to keep
it from implode
but we've got is the most we've got the most inequality
since before the great depression
and and i forget the numbers without sort of uh...
we were about
uh... or or further in the inequality curve
lot of the so-called developing countries are
the level of inequality between the rich and the rest of us
and and if you look at what the attempt to try to uh... to sustain a consumer
based society
with no consumers
the consumers were loaded up with death we started off with
whether we like that or not we're
two in the family went to work so they could pay the bills and
we did that and then we ended up getting kids that went to college and loaded up
with college debt and
had police dead equivalent to the first word almost thirty richard butler worse
but now we end up with people that uh...
or credit cards were maxed out economy collapsed
the started doing the way out of the whole
and we've got this line that says manufacturing coming back dot lovett
manufacturers coming back
but coming back to thirteen fourteen dollars an hour
thirteen dollars an hour is about twenty four thousand dollars a year before
taxes
you can't live in a metropolitan city with twenty four thousand dollars a year
before taxes
so what
historically we
one of the things that was
that was uh... a pressure point in america was the organized labor movement
and an arguably you know the threat hanged in the thirties it was the threat
of communism vs fascism that caused you know that that help
help both republicans democrats can't agree down the middle as it were
their there doesn't seem to be that constrain force anymore is
dekha does that mean that there's going to be a crash in labor's going to step
back and eric i know what your what your prognosis for the future of this error
things like texas people were doing
uh... word global loading our union
uh... we've uh... we've made
really really strong strategic alliances with the major unions
and mexico and mexican wedding a metal workers union
and brazil with the at the c_n_n_ chroot
and australia with the two largest australia manufacturing unit
with the national union of mine workers in south africa
with the largest the industry and in the world i g mattel in germany
and we create a brand new transatlantic union co-workers uniting
where we've merged
the largest private sector great britain
with the united state rikers
and we're doing that because we need we've come to realize whether it's in
collective bargaining
or whether it's organizing
if we've got global capital we need to have the tools
to deal with global capital in the global way
but then they were going looking for strikes or anything else that means
we're going to try to get them
some leverage some balance in the system
while in america
the the
one of the great democracy is the world workers don't have the right because
what the losses
workers don't have the right to form a union
which you have is the right to try
the former union
and the bus has the right to do anything they want
to prevention
and should be violates the loss let's look at place class was a restful
hospices exists the festival or hurt u_s_ companies election was informative
tasteless city has like that we're gonna have
society where people that work with visiting differences physicists after
fifth success completely agree