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with america's attention fixed on the death of bill on this week republic than
congress are hoping no one will notice but they're surrendering on paul rise
plan to privatize medicare
i noticed
posterior john bainer start of the retreat last week
pauline has an idea
fathers shortly worthy of consideration bible tolerances popular ever interested
however
knows it's all right here
find is false idea
other people of other ideas
went into one single minded but i think
we have a plan
pre the right
then yesterday a washington post story citizen majority leader eric cantor
was dropping the medicare bubbles over whether the nutritionist
kantor deny saying that but he wouldn't say medicare is still in play
instead he told reporters quote
i have not taken medicare off the table but the president has
the reality is this for president
has excoriated our budget plan and the medicare proposal in the planet
so of a sudden is like dot presidential bid to telephonic
fascinating
will not convinced yet and they're back in town this morning the chairman of the
house ways and means committee gave camp indicated he's not even going to bring
the plan up in committee
i'm not really issues and just laying down more markers ka
i'd rather have the committee
working with the senate and with the president focus on savings and reforms
it can be signed into law
that's great and i don't want to sell those back it up with this statement
quote
are starting point is the budget passed by the house
or no no allusion that we're going to get everything we've always wanted in
this one bill
all really
while ryan sounded pretty sure we saw the exactly one month ago today
when he invited unveiled his own budget proposal
but
and
he miss
phone
more
there's is
the path to prosperity
is the budget
that we are putting forward today
this represents our choice
for our country's future
finished our commitment
to the american people
we don't need clever politicians we need leadership we need leadership
and so we believe
we have a moral imperative
it is time to stand up and do what is nine realizes certificates country
so those townhall man's had something in there with him going from his arm
moral imperative to
who
and medicare
imported and medicare
backpedal backpedal backpedal backed up all
there will be on the town hall averages
after poll shows that american people are does reforms on this one and brand
new quinnipiac poll
comes seventy percent of people oppose cutting their cutting medicare
to balance the budget that's likely twenty million support in a row saying
the same exact thing so what part of seventy percent did they not understand
all game isn't the first time around
they seem to be getting the message now
tried joining me now is as required msnbc contributor
a reporter for the washington post and bill press host of the bill press show
sirius radio
has a let me start with you
we've got a republican a telling the press quote
it is a big problem about the medicare plan
things are unraveling
so
is that true how we handle except that ms right
are the really run away from this issue
it is a big problem so
it all the one hand there some way down to the laws of political gravity here
they don't control the senate
it open for the white house
what is fascinating however is that knowing that knowing they could never
got in a plant that is this extreme signed by the president
they still made all the people vote on it usually when you controlling one
chamber of congress you try to keep your people from taking very very dangerous
votes because if you don't really have the promise he ought to pass a plan you
want and so i get them on record for something the other party can run
against you in the next election they got them on record on privatizing
medicare they're not going to pass the privatization of medicare
and yet it's still going to be example a democratic campaign against them so i
wonder if there are no couple very annoyed house members this week
yeah well you know the the thing though is that that bill
you know representative now it will bring it up for a second vote in
committee because he's afraid of exactly what as ridge has said
command at bainer is trying to spend this like it's not a retreat but let me
give you the respect clip here and then we'll come into our about it
amaya interpretation of what uh... mr camp was was a recognition
of the political realities that we face
what republicans control alsa democrats control the senate would be control the
white house
we've put our plan on the table
it's out there
hires time for the the democrats to put their plant on the table
bail when's the last time you saw republicans retreating like this talking
about all this political reality with a run for the hills
i think i've ever seen the retrieve my cousins related out absolutely perfectly
invader just confirm that left you know what i think this is this is the
republican jonestown drink i mean
paul ryan mix of kool aid veiled racket now they realize it's a poison brill but
they can't deny it
day wrote this thing they introduced it they embraced it and they voted on this
i could stamp right on their farhad and even airy cantors aid this morning said
quote our position is the ryan budget so they're trying to out-republican the
says both ways to get one l_a_ make the tea party but they know this is this is
poison and this is this private
honestly believe on this issue alone
that they could lose the house of representatives it stunningly
politically stupid for them to do this well now enter bill's point as europe
it seems like they're second metal cans you get a freshman congressman whitehead
joe walsh you said this today i would be very disappointed if we didn't follow
through respect gotcha mother to now try to educate the american people to a
pretty good reception i appreciate the chairman's notion but i would continue
to respectfully challenging to get this thing through committee
meaning he thinks they're definitely not going to push it forward
and he's mad about it so now you got the tea party guys bad
and you've have made this seniors in the rest of the voters mad
or this is a disaster in the next door
write the stories governor to big things to watch your number one it is
by bringing out the ryan planned by by complaining deficit-reduction with a
vast ideological reshaping of the american state
the republicans committed a lot of people in their face and in a party to
something much bigger than just cutting the debt that's going to make it much
harder for them to cut the bench will be on the debt ceiling on the budget
because there people now see this as an opportunity not something to bring down
the budget deficit but to get things but the privatization of medicare did want
to all
but the other thing to watch is that they could drop them at the medicare
part is a ship as a people began saying well they've lost a backing down and get
things like uh... big cuts in medicaid which obviously go to the poor and the
disabled and sort of a very powerful political constituency if the
republicans it end up seem like a separate they political defeat here but
actually getting a big policy win because it looks like a compromise for
something in immeasurably extreme to something that's on the quite extreme
dot mohan at the end of the day debate policy some really urging people here to
keep an eye on medicaid which doesn't quite the same protection that medicare
does right any other anode underestimated their aggressive bility
to *** defeat from the jaws victory
for all your fault
pearsonville
how fast forward on this one now
it's time to put 'em away
budget says that on that point i think there are gradually
the the the ground is certainly shifted i think democrats and gain the advantage
it maybe three ways one i think they've got an advantage now and getting it
independent vote on the debt ceiling and stop playing political games with it
till hoping to gain an advantage in these budget negotiations our caller
excoriating the republicans who are whatever but now the democrats can push
for cuts where they ought to come in the oil subsidies in the ag subsidies
in raising the taxes
on the wealthy
uh... and those things that uh... present about my health has talked about
and then again certainly i think that the they have off already made the spots
every one of those republicans that voted for this is going to have that's
that spot running in their district there was a vote tape could save
medicare or kill medicare and they voted to kill it and they can't run away from
bill i think you're exactly right you know how i feel you got on the run press
ford you know the lord golf would go after a model all the stuff
which are about a world subsidies next but there is one issue to the still have
a tremendous backing on which i'm not sure
they are going to tackle as a let me ask you about that in that latest quinnipiac
poll when asked about taxes here we go again
increase taxes on people of haiti over two hundred fifty thousand dollars the
american people are totally on board sixty nine percent say yes
only twenty eight percent opposed
is this the time to strike on that as well
visited nam is this the time but it is in the time for years now the democrats
been running on taxes for very long time friend
sixty failure they make when they run on taxes if you're not only if you're not
willing to forthrightly advocate for some taxes and that means on people who
make less than two hundred fifty thousand occasionally
the clinton eric tax rates were horrible for people making a hundred fifty
thousand a hundred thousand either if you will never allow people to really
raise taxes you're going to have to have something like the right thing you
cannot have
a state with any sort of real level responsibility and things like medicare
and medicaid and social security
if you don't also have revenues the obama administration is always been
quite paramilitary socio
and even as we begin to push on two hundred fifty can up at some point
democrats going to have to come out and say you know what you want to government
you have to be willing to fund it and it seems people want it so we got to be
adults here
and listen and we went back to the clinton race i do that in a second i
know it said
little tougher on almost but hey we got twenty two million jobs at that time
and he was a comprehensive plan that worked absolutely wide as your client
and bill press is always guys great harrier tonight friday project