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and many marciano is with us she is a council for the democracy program at the
brennan center for justice brennan center dot org
many welcome the program
napping in technocrat having thanks for joining us by he live i've read
now five stories from the new york times to tpm to what not you know on
on andy and your press release on on what judge judge robert simpson said
this morning about the pennsylvania brodeur i do you know voter suppression
idealize what i call it but uh... the of the call for a divorce
and i think i understand it but i'm not really sure insults
but somebody really doesn't they're talking about the culinary inform our
listeners or viewers
tell us what happened to that
nora and remember every time you drop pretty crap and and
and getting any of your lenders now packing etc happy very strict law
requiring
and certain limited form the federated vacation before for picking a bit
in india collection and election become
that would calendar uh...
group i think that the claim that it was unconstitutional
underpaid leading-edge act-up people like nevada
and originally that this record i did
and then i did with indicating that you know what i have a lot of them to be i
think that there will be a bird in on time voters but that burden on voter did
not and not picking up an opinion
reviewer and
given up by the law
and though i did this is a very good point and willing urbane
that i've got to prepare for advocate the krupa country
so independent appeal that went to compete with precourt
secret pink white and that you know what
we don't think that the district court judge a book dependent
could meander and
in land you know and when we were going to get back to him
he had you look at what the debated actually doing on the ground
that whether or not
i've been thinking doing enough to get i demanded a hint of every element will
bear who want to cath about and that when i went back down to the crowded
now that what paddy evidently and that you know i'm not condemned that debate
is actually going to be able to get ideally everybody began
before november
and nobody had enjoyed part of the law and and in the trial judge you know a
step beyond that and and essentially say that the
that the uh...
it's not the purpose of lease the outcome of this law would be voter
disenfranchisement
yatin yet meaning he he
he how and why be cleaner and even the imagining it qualified for the
republican plan to be glad that they would be condemned anti-clinton been
election
right not meant to merely selected so it's a good questions
first of all visit he is this was the state supreme court the state
judge we're looking at the state of pennsylvania's constitution which
guarantees the right to vote
uh... in bush league or at the e quickly if i'm wrong the u_s_ supreme court said
that at least with regard to electors for president states
we have no constitutional right to vote
at the federal level is is that correct
absolute market even a game and i mean
we picked up at your handy provocation
and read through it with where you actually everybody can be a road this
road dot net worth reading
but and buried know if you put in their right to vote the way that we all had a
complaint right
he speaks really well there's there are exposed arrested road given to specific
groups uh... the uh... thirteenth amendment gives its african-americans to
the people who had previously been servitude actually is the way i think
that language
one of the twenty-something tearing up the air with the right of devoted into
women
of the atlanta runaways twenty six the moment the right to vote is going to
eighteen year olds
so but there's no everybody is right about is a why didn't they put it in the
right to vote on equal putting right but that argument write this past weekend so
there is that i was a bit different when you look at what they competition many
of which we actually
i can put it we guarantee if we could get a break well the reason i ask that
question is emblem wondering if there's any chance at this
the this case is going to end up before the supreme court of the united states
or is it truly going to be decided based on the the constitution pennsylvania
then came will be divided and
totally with integrity and an attack that book back at the original complaint
to be a
hundred-person certain certain that i eat believed that it would prob
wholly on their the pennsylvania decapitation and
um...
and actually the convenient in court has the final day on that are depending a
lot better than you and him court can't jump in
uh... accepting the case of things like bushwick
we don't know that that involve the federal competition parent and one of
the point of terrain backplane
and you can talk to a growing company right okay and then the same question
uh... uh... it might it correct me if i'm wrong with my reader of this is that
a poll worker can you say to somebody who shows up at the pool
also in november in pennsylvania
may i see your honor identification please
downturns and in fact the word can be spread down the linemen facts uh...
voter suppression group could even put up assignment
at a certain distance in the polling place saying you will be asked for your
heidi
and uh... they can ask for the idea that the voter can also saying no i'm not
going to show you and they can sit and they still have to be allowed to vote
like a normal voter
uh... doesn't the set up a situation where border groups that are
aggressively trying to engage in voter suppression
still have car plunge
i'm not sure i would do
before amending the bill and nificant victory for those of us you want to
encourage voting
right however have been the pin that you can correctly described
we don't need here lead to a fair on a better confused and and and it
could be you know it properly there
abuse actually think that
that our big concern is that voters are going to be completed it but a lot of
you cover it
people maybe they've been amplified d_n_a_ don't actually know whether or
not it happened that idea in a month porkers a well-trained and in the
beethoven had very much time to do that and we we could have a graduation where
there's a lot of information and and about the coffin problems but from the
voters point you could get another white we don't know directly to the law
the men also probably i'm kinda porkers part of your properly trent lott the
event that the reason i ask is in being part you know what we're seeing right
now and also a decade or so it better go for a
for a boatload book i was reading i was i'd read a the biography of at justice
rehnquist chief justice rehnquist mcm
and if he'd made his way in the republican party in the late fifties
early sixties
if i recall the timeframe ram i did in the mid-sixties
uh... in arizona
standing outside the polling places in native american districts and hispanic
districts
and he's very tall man is like six water six to and very imposing figure back
then uh... and
uses for at that time
on loudly demanding to see people's identification challenging the right to
vote even though air is on a log
require any kind of voter i_d_ he was asserting that and he would get
uh... is successfully he would get it you know it on a good day after the
people to simply leave the line 'cause they didn't want to put up with his
restaurant
and this is not an uncommon tactic i mean this is that i mean that this has
been going on for a long long time or
and we do you know actually outlining
there are large group of people i think our country and
organizing broderick manner i a group called to devote
that have been
grow quick waning volunteers during a million rehnquist out there that might
actually go out and talent voters and
they denied it
you know if you can't really recommended academic frankie is the point tactic
unfortunately there
uh... made a different people think that there are and did a lot of many people
several grounds on which
i grabbed the challenger
you know ken gala committee eligibility devoted and you're exactly right they
can be extremely intimidating right
so so we'll see how this plays out on election day wait this out of the any
further fuel switching on them
i think it's highly unlikely i i i think we're out of the ok car accident and we
are for the segment is the perfect time many marziani thank you counsel of the
democracy program for the brennan center for justice brennan center dot org is
the website many thank you so much for being with us today
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