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>> IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO BRING
YOU "AROUND THE CORNER" WITH
JOHN MCGIVERN.
>> THE SUPPORT WOULD NOT BE
POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE GENEROUS
SPIRIT OF THE COMMUNITIES WE
VISIT.
>> AND YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT,
SO THANK YOU.
>> THIS EPISODE OF "AROUND THE
CORNER" WITH JOHN MCGIVERN IS
MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH FUNDING
PROVIDED IN PART BY THE GREATER
MILWAUKEE FOUNDATION'S ERNEST C.
AND FLORENCE M. SHOCKE FUND.
>> "AROUND THE CORNER WITH JOHN
MCGIVERN" HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE
THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF HISTORIC
DOWNTOWN GREENDALE.
THE NORMAN ROCKWELL-LIKE VILLAGE
ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MILWAUKEE.
THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO SEE
IN GROWN DAILY.
100,000 HOLIDAY LIGHTS FRAMING
THE HISTORIC STORE FRONTS IN
WINTER, 35,000 FLOWERS BLOOMING
BIG TIME IN SUMMER.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL YEAR-ROUND.
YOU JUST GOT TO SEE GREENDALE.
>> THIS IS IS ST. STAN'S, THAT'S
FIFTH STREET, WE'RE AT THE
GATEWAY TO HISTORIC MITCHELL
STREET.
>> TOLD MCGIVERN TO MEET ME HAT
10th AND MITCHELL.
HOW CAN THAT BE?
STREETS ARE NUMBERED, ADDRESSES
ARE ALL HERE.
JOHN MCGIVERN, THERE YOU ARE.
>> I SAW YOU IN THE REARVIEW.
HOW ARE YOU?
MITCHELL STREET.
>> HISTORIC MITCHELL STREET.
>> THE REASON I ASKED YOU TO
MEET ME HERE, JOHN, WE ARE RIGHT
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OLD
OFFICE OF GURDA AND GURDA, SO
THERE'S A FAMILY TIE HERE.
THAT WAS THE OFFICE OF TWO
ARCHITECTS WHO WERE BROTHERS
NAMED LEON AND FRANCIS GURDA AND
THEY PRACTICED HERE FOR A LONG
TIME AND THE REASON THEY LOCATED
HERE, IF YOU WERE A PROFESSIONAL
ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU HAD TO BE
ON MITCHELL STREET, BECAUSE
THERE WAS THE SOUTH SIDE'S
DOWNTOWN.
THAT WAS ITS ROLE.
>> A LOT OF BUSINESS HERE.
>> A WHOLE LOT OF IT, AND IT WAS
FOR MANY YEARS, THIRD IN RETAIL
SALES VOLUME BEHIND WISCONSIN
AVENUE AND THIRD STREET FOR THE
GERMAN NORTH SIDE, AND LOOK AT
THE SKYLINE TODAY, IT'S LIKE A
SMALL CITY.
IT'S LIKE PORT WASHINGTON OR A
WATERTOWN, SO THERE REALLY WAS
QUITE A SCALE HERE.
>> WHAT BIG BUSINESSES WERE
HERE?
>> RIGHT NEXT TO US HERE,
SCHUSTER'S, WHICH IS ONE OF THE
ANCHORS, SEARS DOWN AROUND
13th STREET WAS ANOTHER
ANCHOR.
THEN YOU HAD MORE SPECIALTIES
LIKE GOLDMAN'S DEPARTMENT STORE,
WHERE IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT,
YOU DIDN'T NEED IT.
YOU HAD STATE'S HIGHEST
CONCENTRATIONS OF BRIDAL SHOPS
AND YOU HAD A LOT OF NIGHTLIFE
HERE AS WELL.
THERE WERE AT ONE TIME IN THE
YEARS BEFORE WORLD WAR II, FIVE
THEATERS HERE, MOSTLY MOVIE BUT
ALSO BURLESQUE AND THE ONE THAT
IS STILL HERE IS THE MAJESKA,
IT'S DARK NOW, BUT THE
ATMOSPHERE OF MOVIE PALACES.
>> I KNOW GROWING UP ON THE EAST
SIDE THAT THE ETHNIC BACKGROUND
HERE, WHEN I GREW UP IT WAS
POLISH, GERMAN.
>> PRIMARILY POLISH.
YOU LOOK AT THE CHURCHES, IT
KIND OF TELLS YOU WHO WAS
EASTERLY.
THE EASTERN ANCHOR IS
ST. STANISLAUS, WHICH BEGAN IN
1866, AND THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY
POLISH, ON THE WEST END WAS
LUTHERAN, GONE MOVED OUT TO
GREENFIELD, BUT THEY WERE THE
OTHER ANCHOR, SO WISCONSIN SYNOD
WAS GERMAN LUTHERAN AND RIGHT IN
THE MIDDLE, YOU HAVE
ST. ANTHONY'S, WHO IT TELLS YOU
WHO WAS HERE.
>> HAND NOW WHAT DO WE HAVE?
>> TODAY YOU HAVE WILD
DIVERSITY, AND SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD IS LARGELY LATINO,
BUT NOT ONLY THE CULTURES HERE
ON THE STREET RANGE FROM
SOUTHEAST ASIAN TO LATINO TO
INDIAN AND PAKISTANI AND I CAN
TELL YOU, MY SECOND COUSINS ONCE
REMOVED, LEON AND FRANCIS,
THEY'D BE SURPRISED TO FIND
THEIR ARCHITECTURAL OFFICE
BETWEEN AN INDIAN PAKISTANI
GROCERY STORE AND A SOMALI
GROCERY STORE.
>> IT SAYS IT ALL.
>> WHY IT SURE DOES.
>> LET'S DO A BOUNDARY.
>> FROM 5th TO 13th, AND
FROM MAPLE UP TO LAPHAM, SO THE
HEART OF THE COMMERCIAL
CORRIDOR.
>> THAT'S THE HISTORIC MITCHELL
STREET NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> SURE IS.
THE LANGUAGE IS DIFFERENT FROM
WHAT MY ANCESTORS SPOKE HERE BUT
THE LANGUAGE OF COMMERCE IS
STILL SPOKEN HERE LOUD AND
CLEAR.
>> THANKS, THIS IS FUN.
THIS IS FUN AND YOUR HISTORY IS
RIGHT ON THIS BLOCK.
>> IT IS.
AND THANKS FOR NOT HITTING ME
WITH THE DOOR.
>> SEE YOU LATER.
>> SEE YOU JOHN.
>> JOHN IF I WANT TO PAWN OR
SELL, SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
>> IT'S AN INDIGLO TIE MENTION.
>> COME ON.
>> DID YOU WANT TO PAWN IT?
>> HOW ABOUT --
>> WE CAN WEIGH IT UP AND SEE --
LET'S SEE WHAT IT WEIGHS.
IT'S 4 GRAMS OF SILVER.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT
ABOUT $2.
THE.
>> WHY SHOULD PEOPLE STOP IN
YOUR SHOP?
WHAT WOULD THEY FIND HERE THAT
THEY'D BE SURPRISED AT?
>> DEALS, DEALS, DEALS.
>> I LOVE THAT.
>> YOU CAN FIND DISCOUNTS ON
JEWELRY, WE DO DISCOUNTS, WE
HAVE SPEAKERS, WE HAVE TV'S, WE
HAVE TONS OF STUFF.
>> WE'RE STILL MAINLY A JEWELRY
STORE.
80% OF OUR BUSINESS IS JEWELRY,
SO WE HAVE NEW AND USED ITEMS.
>> THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE USED
JEWELRY IS LIKE, YOU CAN CLEAN
THEM UP, BUFF THEM UP, AND IT
WILL BE BRAND NEW.
THAT'S THE GOOD THING, YOU CAN
MELT THEM DOWN AND CREATE A NEW
PIECE OBVIOUSLY.
>> SO YOU CAN SELL SOMETHING
HERE, YOU CAN BUY SOMETHING
HERE, PAWN SOMETHING HERE, WHY
WOULD I WANT TO PAWN SOMETHING
ANYWAY?
>> PEOPLE WANT TO PAWN AN ITEM
WHEN THEY RUN INTO SHORT-TERM
CASH PROBLEMS, SO LET'S SAY A
CAR BREAKS DOWN, YOU NEED AN
EXTRA $100, BRING YOUR IPAD
HERE, YOU'LL GET THE $100, PAY
US BACK IN A COUPLE DAYS, A
COUPLE WEEKS, WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY.
IT'S A SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE,
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK FOR
IT.
>> AND WHAT A GREAT CORNER
YOU'RE ON.
THIS IS KIND OF THE BEST CORNER
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> THREE INTERSECTIONS, YOU
CAN'T GET ANY BETTER.
>> YOU'RE AT ALL THREE CORNERS.
>> LIKE I KNEW GOLDMAN'S MY
WHOLE LIFE.
ON MITCHELL STREET WAS THIS
PLACE CALLED GOLDMAN AND IT
CLOSED WHEN?
>> 2006.
>> WAS IT HARD TO CLOSE IT UP?
>> VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
>> HOW DID IT END UP THAT YOU
CAME DOWN THE STREET A LITTLE
BIT AND OPENED THIS UP?
>> I WAS RETIRED SIX MONTHS.
>> YOU SAID FORGET THIS.
>> FORGET IT, I COULDN'T FIND
MYSELF.
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO SO I
FIGURED NO, I'M GOING BACK TO
WORK.
>> WHO SHOPS HERE, EVERYBODY?
>> EVERYBODY.
>> JUST PUT SOMETHING ON
FORSYTHE.
IT'S NOT WORKING.
I ENJOY COMING IN.
>> WHAT SELLS THE MOST?
>> A BLACK SUIT.
>> OK.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> SLEEVES GOT TO BE SHORTENED.
WE STILL DO THE HEMMING FREE.
>> OH, YOU DO.
>> YEP.
>> WE DO FREE HEMMING.
I WALK AROUND THE FLOOR MORE
THAN WORK IT.
I SAY HELLO TO MY OLD FRIENDS
AND THEY COME IN WITH THEIR
CHILDREN, THEIR GRANDCHILDREN,
AND THEN THE FATHER WILL SAY, HE
SOLD ME MY FIRST SUIT.
>> AND WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR
PARTNER.
>> WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PARTNER,
MILT?
>> HE'S STILL ALIVE.
>> I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE
CLOTHES AND YOU HAVE LIKE A
WHOLE SEPARATE STORE OF CLOTHES.
AND THEN IT GOES TO THE WIGS,
AND THEN IT COMES TO THE
HARDWARE AND IT'S A REMARKABLE
SHOP.
YOU HAVE EVERYTHING HERE.
>> I TRY TO.
>> HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHAT TO PUT
IN THIS STORE?
>> I HAVE BEEN ALMOST 30 YEARS,
SO I KNOW EVERYTHING.
>> YOU DO.
>> YES.
>> SO I LOOKING FOR WHAT THEY
WANTED, YOU KNOW, I BOUGHT IT
HERE.
>> AND WIGS AND HAIR SELL A LOT?
>> NOT A LOT, BUT THEY --
>> OK.
>> WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO --
>> A PRETTY ONE.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHICH ONE?
>> PRETTY.
>> IS THIS A NEIGHBORHOOD STORE?
>> YES.
>> MOST NEIGHBORS.
>> DO YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE?
>> YES.
>> WILL YOU STAY ON MITCHELL
STREET?
>> YES.
I LIKE IT OVER HERE PARK AND A
LOT OF STREETS, THERE'S A LOT OF
PEOPLE AND I'M OVER HERE.
>> WE'RE AT LOPEZ BAKERY, WE'RE
HERE WITH JORGE LOPEZ.
GOODS TO SEE YOU.
>> YES.
>> LOPEZ BAKERY, JORGE LOPEZ,
OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR BAKERY.
>> IT'S A FAMILY BUSINESS.
>> YES, IT IS.
>> THE RECIPES ARE TRADITIONAL
MEXICAN RECIPES, SOME OF THEM
ARE ACTUALLY MY FATHER'S OWN
RECIPES THAT HAVE BEEN HANDED
DOWN THROUGH THE GENERATIONS
THAT WE STILL USE.
>> THESE LOOK LIKE HARD ROLLS TO
ME BUT THEY'RE NOT.
>> NO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SWEET
ROLLS,.
>> LIKE A COFFEE CAKE KIND OF
BREAD.
OUR BAKERY IS MADE FROM SCRATCH,
WE DON'T USE MIXES OR BASES, ANY
OF THOSE MODERN CONVENIENCES.
>> WHAT SELLS MOST?
>> OUR HARD ROLL.
WE MAKE A HARD ROLL AND IT'S NOT
A SWEET.
>> IT'S NOT A SWEET ROLL.
>> SOFT ON THE INSIDE.
>> SOFT ON THE INSIDE, SEMI
CRUST ON THE OUTSIDE.
WE SERVE IT IN THE RESTAURANT,
TOASTED AND BUTTERED, YOU CAN'T
BEAT IT.
>> I WAS TALKING TO THE GUY WHO
EATS HERE EVERY MORNING AND THEY
SAID I HAVE TO TRY THIS RIGHT
HERE.
>> YES, DO YOU.
>> CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT
IS.
>> THIS IS OUR MEXICAN HOT
DRINK.
>> IT'S LIKE A HOT MALT.
>> YES, IT IS.
>> IT'S QUITE GOOD.
>> I'VE GOT TO GO SIT DOWN.
I'M DIPPING THIS NOW.
>> SO YOU HAVE A PAKISTANI
INDIAN RESTAURANT HERE ON
MITCHELL STREET.
>> YES.
>> IS IT MORE PAKISTANI OR
INDIAN.
>> IT'S 50-50.
>> WELL, THAT'S GOOD.
SO YOU SERVE A LOT OF CHICKEN.
>> YES.
>> SERVE A LOT OF BEEF.
>> CHICKEN, BEEF, PORK, LAMB,
FISH.
>> SHRIMP.
>> SO EVERYTHING BUT PORK.
>> YES.
>> LOOK HE'S BRINGING MORE FOOD.
WHAT'S VERY POPULAR?
>> CHICKEN.
BRED CHICKEN AND -- BREADED
CHICKEN AND THIS IS VERY GOOD
FOR AMERICANS, FOR ARABS, FOR
ANYBODY THAT DON'T EAT SPICY.
>> IT'S FOR EVERYBODY, THAT'S
THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
>> WHAT DO YOU EAT?
>> NONBREAD.
>> NONBREAD IS A PERSIAN WORD
AND PERSIAN, IN SPANISH, IT'S A
TORTILLA AND IN ENGLISH, IT'S A
BREAD.
>> IT GOES RIGHT UP THE WALL.
>> YES.
>> AND PERSIAN, THIS IS -- THIS
GOES HERE.
AND THIS COME OUT.
>> THERE YOU HAVE IT.
>> WOW.
>> IT'S VERY GOOD.
>> GOOD JOB.
>> CAN YOU WORK FOR ME?
>> I'LL CALL YOU.
>> WE WERE AT AP FOODS, WITH THE
OWNER, AMRIT PATEL.
HOW ARE YOU?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> HERE WE ARE IN YOUR FOOD
STORE AND RIGHT AROUND THE
CORNER IS YOUR ACCOUNTING STORE.
>> CORRECT.
>> SO YOU HAVE TWO BUSINESSES IN
THIS BUILDING.
>> YES.
>> HOW DID THESE TWO BUSINESSES
COME TO BE?
>> WELL, THEY DEPEND UPON EACH
OTHER.
INDIAN PEOPLE COME HERE FOR
GROCERIES, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR
TAXES, THEY CAN BUY GROCERY TOO.
>> HOW SMART IS THAT?
WHEN DID YOU HOPE?
>> WE OPENED IN 1992.
>> ARE THERE A LOT MORE INDIAN
PEOPLE IN MILWAUKEE THAN IN
1992?
>> MUCH MORE.
>> AND WE AMERICANS --
>> AND WE LOVE INDIAN FOOD,
THAT'S THE REASON AS WELL.
>> PLUS, YOU LIKE INDIAN SPICE.
>> THIS IS MADE OUT OF MILK, AND
THEN TEA, WHICH IS NORTHEASTERN
PART OF INDIA.
THEY GREW THIS TEA OVER THERE
AND THEN WE PUT SOME TEA MARSALA
WHICH IS A MIX OF 50 DIFFERENT
KIND OF SPICES.
>> THAT SIGN MAKES SENSE IN THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S A DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD,
SPANISH, ENGLISH, POLISH, GERMAN
.
THAT'S THE DENTIST'S OFFICE.
>> AROUND THE CORNER.
SHOW ME WHERE IT'S AT.
>> THE LOFT APARTMENTS WITH
JERRY WEITZER.
HOW ARE YOU?
LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS PLACE
BECAUSE IT'S A MODEL THAT IS
REALLY COOL.
>> THEY TOOK THE FURNITURE
STORE, THEY HAVE ALL THE SPACES,
THEY HAVE HUGE VAULTED CEILINGS,
THE CORNER HASN'T ARE AS BIG AS
BARS.
YOU CAN DO ALL KIND OF ARTWORK,
AND THERE'S PEOPLE, ACTORS AND
STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> SO THE MODEL IS ARTISTS, AND
YOU HAVE TO BE AN ARTIST TO MOVE
IN TO THIS BUILDING.
>> NO, YOU DON'T.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS NEED A
REALLY NICE PLACE TO LIVE, AND
NOT BE BOTHERED BY ARTISTS.
>> OH, THAT'S THE CONCEPT.
>> YES.
>> AND YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THIS
MODEL.
>> OH, YES.
>> WE ARE TALKING WITH JAY
MILLER, WHO LIVES AND WORKS IN
THE MITCHELL STREET
NEIGHBORHOOD.
HOW ARE YOU MAN?
>> GOOD, HOW ABOUT YOU.
>> THANKS FOR TALKING TO US.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED HERE?
>> I LIVED HERE A LITTLE OVER
THREE YEARS.
>> YOU CAME FROM CHICAGO.
>> CORRECT.
>> DO YOU PLAN ON STAYING,
LIVING HERE.
>> I PLAN ON STAYING.
>> WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE?
>> TALK ABOUT IT.
>> IT'S CHEAPER TO LIVE HERE,
COST OF LIVING IS A LOT LOWER,
AND CRIME, PRETTY MUCH.
>> YEAH.
>> AND YOU FEEL SAFE HERE.
>> YES.
SAFE, IT'S SLOWER, IT'S NOT AS
FAST, GO GO GO, BOOM BOOM BOOM,
SO YOU CAN BREATHE A LITTLE
EASIER.
>> I LIKE IT.
IT'S PRETTY DIFFERENT.
REALLY DIVERSE, YOU MEET A LOT
OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM
DIFFERENT CULTURES.
I LEARNED A LITTLE BIT OF
SPANISH, A LITTLE BIT OF ERDU.
>> WHAT'S THAT?
>> THAT'S LIKE PAKISTANI
LANGUAGE.
>> IF I ASKED YOU TO GIVE ME A
WORD THAT DESCRIBES MITCHELL
STREET ON ANY GIVEN DAY, WHAT
WOULD YOU TELL ME?
>> I WOULD JUST SAY BUSY.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING
ON ALL THE TIME.
>> IN THE 1950'S AND 1960'S, I
THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST
NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE UNITED
STATES TO GROW UP AND IT WAS A
GOOD MIDDLE CLASS WORKING
NEIGHBORHOOD.
LOTS OF SOLID FAMILIES.
>> 2013, TALK ABOUT WHAT IT'S
LIKE NOW, WHERE DO YOU SEE IT
GOING?
>> WE HAVE A VERY STRONG
BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT,
WE HAVE VERY GOOD PEOPLE.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY SEARCHING FOR
NEW BUSINESSES TO TAKE OVER THE
AVAILABLE SPACES.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF RENOVATION
GOING ON.
THIS IS STILL THE MOST DIVERSE
NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY.
WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
I LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT I'LL ALWAYS STAY HERE.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST -- I TELL
PEOPLE, I CAN WALK A BLOCK AWAY
FROM MY HOUSE IN ANY DIRECTION
AND SEE THE WHOLE WORLD.
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> I KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT.
YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW?
NEXT DOOR AND ACROSS THE STREET
WERE POLISH FAMILIES.
WE KNOW SOME POLISH.
>> I THINK PEOPLE WHEN THEY
DRIVE BY, THEY SEE THE BIG
CHURCH AND THEY THAT PROBABLY
IT'S NOT VERY ACTIVE,
ST. STANISLAUS IS ALIVE AND IT'S
BREATHING AND IT'S OPEN AND IT'S
WELCOME TO EVERYBODY.
>> IS THIS THE ONLY LATIN MASS
IN THIS CITY?
>> YES, IT IS.
>> YOU MENTIONED MASS, AND WE
TRY TO BRING THE POSSIBILITY TO
THE FAITHFUL WHO DESIRE THE
LITURGY, WHICH IS A GREAT FOOD
FOR THE SOUL.
>> AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
DESIRE IT.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT YOUR
POPULATION.
>> WE HAVE WEEKDAY MASS AND
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM
20 TO 30 PEOPLE.
AND THEN ON SUNDAY MASS, WE HAVE
AROUND 600.
>> THE AGE OF YOUR 600 PEOPLE
HERE, ON SUNDAY, IT'S
SURPRISINGLY LOW AS YOU SAID,
THE LATE 1920'S, 1930'S, THE
FAMILIES AND THE CHOIR IS REALLY
THE KIDS.
>> PEOPLE COME HERE FOR THE
LATIN MASS, BECAUSE THEY ARE
NOSTALGIC FOR THE LITURGY, SO WE
RECEIVE EVERY SUNDAY, A LOT OF
YOUNG FAMILIES.
THE MASS IS ALSO THE BABIES, WHO
ARE VERY LOUD VOICES.
>> AND IT IS A GOOD SIGN TO HAVE
THE YOUNG GENERATION IN THE
CHURCH.
>> LET'S FOR A MINUTE TALK ABOUT
THIS BUILDING WHERE WE'RE
STANDING IN FRONT OF.
>> IT'S BEEN ON MITCHELL SINCE
1913.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS WAS
SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY HOSPITAL.
FROM 1924 TO 1943, THEN IT
BECAME ANOTHER RESIDENCE AND
THEN FIVE YEARS AGO, THE BID OR
BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT MOVED IN
HERE, HISTORIC MITCHELL STREET
PRESERVATION ACQUIRED THE
BUILDING THREE YEARS AGO.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT BID NUMBER
4, WHICH IS HISTORIC MITCHELL
STREET.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS
DO?
>> WE'RE THE CATALYST TO RETURN
IT BACK TO RETAIL.
THAT'S OUR DIRECTIVE FROM THE
MAYOR.
MITCHELL STREET MUST BE RETHAT I
WOULD GENERALLY.
>> I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY
YESTERDAY ABOUT COMING TO DO A
WEEK ON MITCHELL STREET AND SHE
SAID THAT EVERY RIDE BACK IN THE
1950'S, 1960'S, 1970'S, CAME TO
MITCHELL STREET TO BUY THEIR
BRIDE WARE.
IT WAS KNOWN AS THE BRIDAL
CAPITAL.
>> IT WAS CALLED BRIDAL ALLEY
AND WE HAD 21 BRIDAL SHOPS.
>> IS THAT RIGHT?
>> WE SEE THAT NOW, IT'S MOVING
TOWARDS BRIDAL AGAIN.
WE'RE REBUILDING THAT LINK TO
THE PAST.
>> MITCHELL STREET WAS REALLY
KNOWN FOR A LOT OF THEIR BRIDAL
BOUTIQUES, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE
COME DOWN HERE.
>> IF YOU WERE A BRIDE WANTING A
PLACE TO STOP FOR EVERYTHING,
THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD.
>> YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO
EVERYTHING HERE.
WE ALSO ON TOP OF THE DRESSES,
WE DO HAVE PHOTOGRAPHY SERVICE,
VIDEO SERVICES, WE CUSTOM DESIGN
INVITATIONS, WE DO FLORAL
DESIGN, LIGHTING DESIGN.
EVERY ASPECT OF EVERY EVENT WE
CAN TAKE CARE OF.
>> HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO ALL
OF THAT?
>> I GOT MARRIED ONCE UPON A
TIME AND I REALIZED REAL QUICK
THERE WAS A MARKET FOR IT.
WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD TO BE
HERE ON MITCHELL STREET, BECAUSE
WE'RE ABLE TO CATER TO ALL
ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE DOMINANT
HISPANIC AREA.
>> TELL US WHAT THAT IS.
>> IT'S A CELEBRATION OF A
15-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHO IS KIND OF
COMING OUT IN TO SOCIETY.
IT IS CELEBRATED WITH A CHURCH
MASS, IT'S A WEDDING WITHOUT THE
GROOM.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S LIKE
IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE
EVENT, THE RECEPTION, YOU KNOW,
IT'S HUGE.
IT'S HUGE.
MITCHELL STREET REALLY IS KIND
OF A MELTING POT FOR A LOT OF
DIFFERENT ETHNIC FAMILIES.
>> WHERE ARE WE?
>> SOUTH STADIUM.
>> BACK IN THE DAY, I'M TELLING
YOU, THE BEST FOOTBALL IN THE
CITY OF MILWAUKEE WAS PLAYED
HERE AT SHOUT STADIUM.
>> WHEN WAS THIS THING BUILT?
>> THE SCHOOL STARTED IN 1890
HAND I DON'T THINK IT WAS MUCH
AFTER THAT THAT THEY BUILT THE
STADIUM.
>> WHAT HAPPENS HERE NOW?
>> THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIX
IT UP IF THEY CAN'T GET THE
MONEY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT
KNOCKING IT DOWN, WHICH WOULD BE
ASHAME, BUT IT'S A HISTORIC
BUILDING.
>> WHAT STILL PLAYS ON THE
GROUNDS.
>> SOCCER, FOOTBALL, THEY DON'T
DRAW NEARLY WHAT THEY USED TO
DRAW, BUT THEY'RE TRYING.
>> NOW WHERE ARE WE?
>> IN THE GYMNASIUM.
>> BUILT IN THE 1870'S.
>> 1870'S, BUT SOME OF THE BEST
BASKETBALL GETTING PLAYED IN THE
MILWAUKEE CONFERENCE GETS PLAYED
AT MILWAUKEE SOUTH.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SOUTH
BASKETBALL, YOU ALWAYS GO BACK
TO TERRY PORTER.
HE PLAYED HERE IN THE EARLY
1980'S, PLAYED IN THE NBA HAND
NOW COACHES IN THE NBA.
HE SCORED JUST UNDER 16,000
POINTS IN THE NBA.
MILWAUKEE SOUTH ALUMNI.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING TO
SAY.
I LIKE YOUR OUTFIT.
>> YOU DO.
I HAVE ONE THING FOR YOU.
DO YOU HAVE VERY TIME FOR
ONE-ON-ONE.
>> YES.
>> WE HAVE TO TURN THE CAMERA.
GOODBYE.
>> ARE WE WATCHING A NATIONAL
DANCE OF MEXICO OR ARE WE
WATCHING REGIONAL DANCE?
>> WELL, MEXICO HAS 32 STATES,
SO EACH STATE HAS DIFFERENT
STYLES.
THE FIRST ONE WE DID WAS THE
JALISCO STAGE WHICH IS THE
DRESSES WITH THE COLORS, THE
RIBBONS, THEY'RE REALLY BIG, AND
THEY HAVE ALL THE FLARE FOR THE
SKIRTS.
>> IS IT ALL MEXICANS?
>> NO.
NO.
WE HAVE A REALLY INTERESTING
MIX.
WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE YOU KNOW,
HALF AND HALF, THAT THEY'RE HALF
MEXICAN, HALF OF ANOTHER
CULTURE, THEY'RE EITHER
AFRICAN-AMERICANS OR THEY'RE
WHITE OR I HAVE SOME
PUERTO RICANS THAT COME AND
PRACTICE.
I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST DRIVE
FOR PEOPLE IS THAT THEY COME AND
THEY REALLY WANT THEIR KIDS TO
LEARN ABOUT THE TRADITIONS, EVEN
THOUGH THEY DON'T LIVE IN
MEXICO, BUT THIS WAY, THEY GET A
WAY TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE AND
TO TEACH THEM ABOUT IT.
>> AND REALLY, YOU OBVIOUSLY
CELEBRATE COMMUNITY HERE TOO?
I MEAN, ARE THESE LIKE
NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS.
>> THEY ARE.
>> WHAT A GREAT WAY TO BRING
KIDS TOGETHER AND ANOTHER WAY
FOR SOMEBODY TO FORM A COMMUNITY
OF FRIENDS.
>> EXACTLY.
>> I LOVE WALKING IN HERE,
BECAUSE I WISH PEOPLE COULD
SMELL WHAT IT SMELLS LIKE HERE,
LEATHER.
GOOD LEATHER.
>> LOTS OF BOOTS.
>> LOTS OF BOOTS, AND LEATHER.
>> LET'S THANK A LITTLE WALK
AROUND -- TAKE A LITTLE WALK
AROUND IF YOU DON'T MIND.
YOU JUST DON'T WEAR THESE EVERY
DAY.
>> NO.
NO.
JUST FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS.
>> SUPPORT SPECIAL OCCASIONS,
WHAT IS THAT?
>> IT'S COW LEATHER.
>> WHO HAS A FOOT LIKE THIS?
>> SHIRTS SELL WELL.
JEANS SELL WELL.
>> YES.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT HATS.
>> HATS.
>> WHAT DO PEOPLE WEAR?
>> SUMMER SHOW HATS.
>> IN THE SUMMER, STRAW HATS.
>> THIS IS A TYPICAL STRAW HAT.
>> IT'S BIG.
>> IT'S BIG.
>> YES.
>> THAT'S NICE.
THAT'S FOR A LITTLE -- THIS IS
REALLY LITTLE.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S STRAW.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WHAT KIND OF BOOTS GO WITH
THIS?
>> THE RED ONES.
>> THE RED ONES.
>> YOU'RE FULL OF [BEEP]
>> I'M NOT.
>> OK.
I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, WE'RE
NOT REALLY ON MITCHELL STREET.
WE'RE NOT FAR FROM MITCHELL
STREET, BUT I THOUGHT WE SHOULD
COME TO A PLACE THAT I LOVE AND
A PLACE THAT PEOPLE ON MITCHELL
STREET SHOP.
IT'S CALLED -- EL REY.
>> YOU CAN TELL THAT YOU'RE NOT
IN THE GROCERY STORE I GO TO,
THIS IS WHAT I'M SHOPPING FOR
TODAY.
FOR MY NEXT BIRTHDAY PARTY, WHAT
DO YOU THINK?
>> WOULD YOU COME AND BEAT THE
CRAP OUT OF THAT THING?
OK.
YOU'RE BELIEVING THAT I DON'T
REALLY KNOW WHAT ANY OF THIS IS.
I KNOW WHAT HALL OF THIS IS.
-- WHAT ALL OF THIS CANDY.
>> IT COMES WITH ITS OWN SPOON.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK THIS GUY
WHAT HE'S BUYING.
>> HOW ARE YOU DOING?
>> PRETTY GOOD.
>> MY NAME IS JOHN WHAT ARE YOU
SHOPPING FOR?
>> THIS IS TOAST IN A BAG.
>> DO YOU LIVE IN THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> NO, I LIVE HERE IN MUSKEGO.
I DRIVE ALL THE WAY HERE TO GET
THIS BREAD.
>> YOU DO.
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO PREPARE
THESE?
>> NEITHER DO I.
>> WE LOOKED AT --
>> ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, WE
WERE DRIVING AROUND AND WE SEEN
RESALE SHOPS OTHER LOCATIONS AND
WE KNEW THAT THEY WEREN'T DOING
WELL BECAUSE OF FOOT TRAFFIC AND
CAR TRAFFIC AND PARKING.
>> AND YOU WENT ALL OVERLOOKING
FOR A MACE TO DO THIS.
>> YES.
>> YOU KNEW YOU WANTED TO DO
RETAIL.
>> WE WANTED TO DO ANTIQUES AND
RETRO AND EVERYTHING FLOWED INTO
THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE SAID WE
COULD HELP THEM WITH HOUSEWARES
AND CLOTHING, EVERYDAY USE AND
THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED AROUND
HERE IS EVERYDAY BASIC.
>> WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A
GOOD LOCATION, FOOT TRAFFIC IS
ESSENTIAL, AND THAT'S WHAT 75%
OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE FOOT
TRAFFIC.
>> SO IF IT'S FOOT TRAFFIC, IT'S
FROM THE COMMUNITIES.
>> YES.
>> PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY
$100 FOR JEANS, THEY CAN COME
HERE AND GET ABERCROMBIE & FITCH
JEANS FOR $5.
>> YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE
COUNTY AND SAY WOW, THERE'S
SOMETHING HERE FOR ME.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FUR
BUSINESS IN MILWAUKEE.
>> MILWAUKEE IN THE EARLY
1950'S, WE HAD FUR ASSOCIATION,
WE HAD 51 MEMBERS OF THE
ASSOCIATION AND THERE WERE OVER
60 FURRIERS IN MILWAUKEE.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO A FEW.
>> JUST A FEW.
>> THAT'S IT.
BECAUSE PEOPLE USED TO WEAR FURS
ALL THE TIME.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE CARS.
AND THEY WALKED A LOT.
>> OK.
NOW WE'RE TALKING.
WHO'S COMING IN HERE?
>> IT'S BASICALLY A BIG VARIETY
OF PEOPLE.
FURS ARE COMING BACK.
>> DO MEN WEAR FURS.
>> YES.
>> AND WHAT DO THEY USUALLY
WEAR?
>> USUALLY BEAVER, OR MINK,
RACCOON.
>> TELL ME WHAT THIS IS.
>> FOX.
>> IT'S A STOLE.
>> FLING.
IT'S A FLING.
>> IT'S A FLING.
>> IT'S A FLING.
>> IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE CALLED?
YOU DO A LOT OF STORAGE HERE
TOO?
>> YES.
WE HAVE GOT THREE BIG STORES
UPSTAIRS.
>> I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT IT
LOOKS LIKE WALKING DOWN THE
STREET WITH THIS.
WE'RE AT BRYANT'S COCKTAIL
LOUNGE WITH THE OWNER, JOHN DYE.
HOW ARE YOU SIR?
>> GOOD.
>> NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> WHEN I HEARD WE WERE COMING
HERE, I WAS SURPRISED THAT WE
WALKED IN THAT YOU'RE SO YOUNG
TO OWN THIS BAR, BECAUSE IT'S
BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.
>> 75 YEARS.
>> HELLO.
>> I'M ONLY 82.
>> YOU LOOK GOOD.
>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THIS?
>> FIVE YEARS.
>> FIVE YEARS.
>> AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COCKTAIL
LOUNGE AND A BAR OR A TAVERN.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
>> YOU'LL SEE NO POOL TABLES, NO
DART BOARDS, NO TELEVISIONINGS.
WE SERVE MAINLY COCKTAILS, IT'S
A GOOD PLACE FOR A DATE OR A
SPECIAL OCCASION.
>> CORK TAILS, LIKE FANCY
COCKTAILS.
>> LOTS OF FANCY COCKTAILS.
>> LIKE FOR INSTANCE I ASKED YOU
TO POUR ME A DIET COKE.
WHAT IS THIS?
>> THIS IS AN OLD FASHIONED, A
WISCONSIN STAPLE OF COURSE.
>> IS IT.
>> DEFINITELY.
WE HAVE OVER 400 RECIPES, THE
PINK SQUIRREL WAS INVENTED HERE,
WHICH WAS AN ICE CREAM DRINK.
>> IS THIS THE OLDEST COCKTAIL
LOUNGE IN THE CITY, LET ALONE
THE STATE?
>> AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT IS
ABSOLUTELY THE OLDEST COCKTAIL
LOUNGE IN THE CITY AND THE STATE
OF WISCONSIN.
>> IF YOU LOOKED UP IN THE
DICTIONARY ECLECTIC, YOU KNOW
WHAT YOU WOULD FIND?
HISTORIC MITCHELL STREET.
YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO TELL US
WHY HISTORIC MITCHELL STREET IS
THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD TO
LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY AND
ALDERMAN, YOU CAN START NOW.
>> IT'S GOT IT ALL FROM GREAT
HOUSING OPTIONS TO DIVERSE
RESTAURANTS, AND GROCERY STORES
THAT OFFER AMERICAN, LATIN,
INDIAN, MIDDLE EASTERN, ASIAN TO
DIVERSE SERVICES LIKE DOCTOR,
LAWYER, BANKER, PASTOR,
MANICURIST, BARBER, TAILOR, YOU
NAME IT.
WE HAVE ALL YOUR CLOTHING NEEDS
FROM CASUAL TO BUSINESS ATTIRE,
TO FORMAL WEAR.
>> TELL ME HOW TO SAY THIS?
>> OK.
TWO NAMES.
ONE AMERICAN NAME IS --
>> BUTTER.
BUTTER CHICKEN.
YOU JUST PUT BUTTER.
>> GEEZ.
SIZE 30.
SO THE LAST TIME I WAS A SIZE 30
WAS FIRST COMMUNION.
>> HOW LONG AGO?
>> SECOND GRADE, SO --
>> HOW MANY YEARS AGO?
>> I'LL TELL YOU.
YEAH.
10 YEARS AGO.
>> 10 YEARS AGO.
>> SO YOU KNOW, IN EVERY
COMMUNITY I WEAR A DIFFERENT
SHIRT AND IT'S ALWAYS LIKE WHAT
AM I GOING TO WEAR TO THIS
COMMUNITY SO I FOUND A SHIRT, I
JUST DON'T THINK I FOUND THE
COMMUNITY YET.
>> RIGHT IN.
PLEASE DON'T.
"AROUND THE CORNER" WITH JOHN
MCGIVERN HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE
THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF HISTORIC
DOWNTOWN GREENDALE.
THE NORMAL ROCK WELL LIKE
VILLAGE ON MILWAUKEE'S SOUTH
SIDE, BARGAINS GALORE ON THE
LOWER LEVEL, INCLUDING KITCHEN
GADGETS AND SO MUCH MORE.
YOU JUST GOT TO SEE GREENDALE.
>> ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR
"AROUND THE CORNER" WITH JOHN
MCGIVERN IS PROVIDED BY THE
GREATER MILWAUKEE FOUNDATION'S
ERNEST C. AND FLORENCE M. SHOCKE
FUND.
>> I LOVE THIS SHOW AND THIS
SHOW WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE
WITHOUT THE GENEROUS
CONTRIBUTIONS OF VIEWERS LIKE
YOU.
SO ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CREW
OF "AROUND THE CORNER" WITH JOHN
MCGIVERN, THANK YOU.