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Homosexuality: Some Points on the Argumentation.
Section 377:
1861- British Administration in India adds,
Sec 377 in the Indian Penal Code,
thereby criminalizing same sex behavior.
2009- Delhi High Court in a landmark judgement,
decriminalizes homosexuality.
2013- Supreme court of India, upholds
section 377 saying that the parliament
should enact laws to remove 377
I would like to say something about the irrationality
of the arguments presented in the media by the
supporters of re-criminalization of homosexuality in India.
Namaskar!
My name is aditya shankar
and I hail from Bihar and I study
Electrical Engineering in IIT Bombay
Some days ago,
the Supreme Court of India
has upheld the section 377 of
Indian Penal Code as constitutionally valid.
and thereby has scrapped the landmark
2009 judgement by the Delhi high court
which decriminalized consensual homosexual sex.
It means that two consenting adults indulging
in same sex behavior in private can be prosecuted to
a sentence of 10 years imprisonment along with a fine.
And if the act involves a minor, then
the person can be imprisoned for life.
There are a lot of comments
coming on this issue in Society.
So, I though I should also
give my two cents on the subject.
The matter with me is that,
I have become really frustrated.
I watch news, as it comes on this issue.
But, I got really annoyed at the fact that
people supporting the SC verdict are
not making rational points.
They are throwing totally illogical arguments.
India is a secular country so
kindly do not bother giving religious arguments.
Now listen to the points,
first, Homosexuality is an import from the west.
Alright! What the fish is west?
From Pakistan to America? Everything?
India has world's 17% population,
so, apart from this 17% is everything, west?
and even in India, are we homogeneous?
its like North East and South India doesnt even exist.
Therefore, Indians should understand that
there is a diversity of culture in India and abroad.
And these differences in culture should be respected.
And don't make me mad saying it's a western import.
First know this that, China, which is
to the north east of India...
and is bigger, both in area
and in population
doesn't criminalize homosexuality.
It is criminal in India to be gay because,
In 1861 Section 377 was added to the
statute book by the British.
It reflects the Victorian mores of that epoch.
It's nothing beyond that.
In India, if one goes to Khajuraho
they will witness so much of homosexual imagery.
Lets come back,
Second point,
Homosexuality is a mental disease.
and who says so?
Ramdev?
He is such a big doctor, isnt he :P
He has a patent over curing homosexuality,
and he is very famous for being a physician,
and a science expert.
And we should agree to whatever he
says the cause is.
Ok, I agree!
I feel like laughing, ok
I feel like laughing on this.
I havent heard anything as ridiculous
as this.
Do you really think, Indians are such fools?
Next point,
that Homosexuality is unnatural.
lol, I can never stop being amazed at this argument
Not Natural!
What is it that you call natural?
Tell me.
That we live such a lifestyle,
wear clothes, etc, is it natural?
With that logic, we should rather live naked,
if we have to stay natural, shouldn't we?
Who defines what is natural?
Something's natural for me, for eg,
I don't consume bugs as food,
and some tribes in Jharkhand,
consume honey bees (Bindhni),
But I dont.
Its natural for them, not for me.
So what shall I do? Kill them?
Therefore, dont I have a right to life?
So will you put me behind the bars?
I am 20, a student,
I shall do something good for you in future,
develop the country and her people...
Instead, do you want me to go out of the country?
Arent you essentially saying that you won't
let me live in the country and therefore,
I should leave India and settle in the "West"?
I ask, what is natural?
Are you the guardian of the "natural"?
or are you God? that you'll be the judge?
If you are the Almighty, then I bow down to you
then I'd just ask you who gave you
the power to be the Almighty?
Next, People argue that if one decriminalizes
homosexuality then people will ask for
legalizing zoophilia- sex with animals.
How dont you understand the concept of consent?
377 is not being repealed. It is
just being read down in a different way.
So, it just means that, with consent,
if two adults indulge in homosexual intercourse
then it's their private matter and the state has
no interest in it.
Do you believe that animals give consent?
Since when have you started talking to animals?
It nods, and you infer an affirmation?
No! It doesnt work that way.
If you can take consent from an animal,
then we will discuss and talk about it.
But till the time you can't,
then spare me this argument.
Because I go mad.
Reflect a bit into yourself,
you shall find our reasons.
You will understand our points.
The logic is very transparent,
but you collude it before your eyes then
obviously it would seem opaque.
Please clear your glasses, and
you will see the transparency.
I guarantee.
Moreover, visit www.bargad.org and read,
there's also a book by Devdutt Patnaik, and
a few other books by Ruth Vanita and Salim Kidwai,
Read them.
You will then understand how homosexuality has been
represented in the Indian Culture.
It is highly represented, and much ubiquitous
if you visit temples like khajuraho.
If the statues in Khajuraho can depict same sex behavior
then we certainly can. After all,
this is the 21st century.
Share This!
and talk to people, have conversations,
and ask them to be rational about this issue,
ask them to analyse and to
talk more about it.
Increase our tolerance as peoples of India.
And, lets not even talk about the SC verdict,
illogically, they say that its not a big deal,
if only 200 people have been prosecuted under this law.
Listen, It is wrong even if one person
faces prosecution unnecessarily.
Agree to this, shall we?
The society just wants people
to get married and have children,
that's the aim.
and this is not fair,
very wrong.
Give people the chance to live their lives.
Listen to them!
Dont just say that, you'll cure them.
Live your life, and let me live mine.
See, this is a closed room,
now whatever I do here, with someone's consent
that is our matter of concern, irrespective of them
being women or men.
You! Stay away!
Don't come inside.
I don't permit you to come near me.
Change your thinking first,
the world is changing fast,
and stop the banal "Western! Western!"
Change your thinking,
and then come talk to me.
I shall talk to you in crass bihari hindi.
Samjhe! (Do you understand?)
After the Mahabharata, before the death of Bhishma,
Pandavas went to ask for his blessings. In between
the conversation, Yudhishthir asked, “O Great Father!
Who gets more *** pleasure among men and women?
Who finds it more pleasurable to be addressed as father or mother
by their children?” Bhisma responded swiftly- “ None save Raja Bhangashvan
can answer your questions. He has several wives and children.
After being curse by Indra, he turned into a woman,
married a man and bore his children. And in this way,
he has an experience of being both a man and a woman,
father and a mother, only he, is capable of answering your question.”