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>> GOOD EVENING, WE WOULD LIKE
TO CALL THE DURHAM CITY COUNCIL
MEETING TO ORDER MONDAY,
DECEMBER 16, 7:00 P.M.
WELCOME ALL OF YOU THAT ARE WIT
US THIS EVEN.
LET'S TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENT
MEDITATION, PLEASE.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
.
>> THANK YOU.
WE WILL BE LED IN THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
>> GOOD EVENING, WE WILL BE LED
IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE,
KYLA NEWKIRK, THE DAUGHTER OF
MR. and MRS. KYLE NEW KIRK AND
THE DAUGHTER OF OUR ASSISTANT
DIRECTOR, MS. HATTIE JOHNSON.
[RECITING U.S. PLEDGE]
>> MADAM CLERK, CALL THE ROLL,
PLEASE.
[ROLL CALL]
.
>> AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS PAST
WEEKEND, NELSON MANDELA,
COMPLETED HIS EXTRAORDINARY
JOURNEY ONE THAT LED FROM PRISON
TO PRESIDENCY THAT MADE HIM A
GLOBAL SYMBOL OF ENDURANCE AND
RECONCILIATION.
HE WAS LAID TO REST YESTERDAY I
HIS HOMETOWN OF SOUTH AFRICA.
DURHAM LIKE SO MANY PLACES
AROUND THE WORLD RECOGNIZES AND
HONORS WHAT HE DID IN THE NAME
OF FREEDOM AND FORGIVENESS.
NOT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALL
COLORS IN SOUTH AFRICA, BUT ALL
OVER THE WORLD.
I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS
PROCLAMATION IN HONOR OF NELSON
MAND -- MANDELA,I WOULD LIKE TO
ASK OWEN SCOTT IF HE WOULD JOIN
ME.
HE'S ONE OF THE PERSONS -- I HA
MANY PEOPLE ASK FOR THE
PROCLAMATION, BUT ... OWEN?
THANK YOU.
OWEN FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT WE
AS A CITY SHOULD HONOR THE WORK
AND MEMORY OF MANDELA.
A FRIEND OF HIS, FORMER NORTH
CAROLINA RESIDENT DINA LEONARD
WROTE A SONG AND PRODUCED A
SHORT VIDEO IN MANDELA'S HONOR,
WE WILL HEAR THAT AFTER THIS
PROCLAMATION.
IT READS:
WHEREAS,LA CONEXIÒN IS NORTH
CAROLINA'S OLDEST SPANISH
LANGUAGE NEWSPAPER -- SERVING
THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN 18
CONSECUTIVE YEARS; AND
HEREAS,ITS MISSION IS TO
REPORT THE NEWS IN A FACTUAL,
IMPARTIAL, SERIOUS, AND
RESPONSIBLE MANNER AND TO
INFORM, EDUCATE AND ENTERTAIN
ALL THOSE WHO LIVE, PLAY AND
WORK OF SPANISH LANGUAGE -- NOT
ONLY IN NORTH CAROLINA BUT THE
NATION; AND
WHEREAS,THE CITY OF DURHAM
SEEKS TO COMMEMORATE AND HONOR
THE LEGACY OF NELSON ROLIHLAHLA
MANDELA AS HIS IDEALS OF PEACE,
RECONCILIATION, AND EQUALITY FOR
ALL SET A STANDARD FOR HUMANITY
AND COMPASSION THAT WE STRIVE TO
UPHOLD; AND
HEREAS,NELSON MANDELA WAS
IMPRISONED FOR 27 YEARS FOR HIS
FIGHT AGAINST SOUTH FRA
ANTI-APARTHED LEANWA
FINALLY LIBERATED IN 191AN
HEREAS,HE WAS ELECTED AS SOUTH
AFRICA'S FIRST BLACK CHIEF
EXECUTIVE, AND HIS GOVERNMENT
FOCUSED ON DISMANTLING THE
LEGACY OF APARTHEID THROUGH
TACKLING INSTITUTIONALIZED
RACISM, POVERTY AND INEQUALITY,
AND FOSTERING RACIAL
RECONCILIAIO A
HEREAS,WE THE PEOPLE OF DURHAM
RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS TIME TO
RECALL CIVIL MOVEMENTS FROM
PREVIOUS GENERATIONS AND ASSURE
THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWING
DISCRIMINATION, OPPRESSION, AND
DENIAL OF BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS TO
CREEP BACK INTO OUR NATION; AND
WHEREAS,WE CHALLENGE ALL OF OUR
ELECTED OFFICIALS TO REVIEW
CURRENT AND RELEVANT ISSUES THAT
AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY SUCH AS
WORKERS' RIGHTS, ACCESS TO
HEALTHCARE AND HEALTHY FOOD
OPTIONS, AND ACCESSIBLE
EDUCATION, WHICH SUPPORTS OUR
FOUNDING IDEALS OF LIFE,
LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF
HAPPINESS; AND
WHEREAS,THE COMPASSION THAT
NELSON MANDELA FELT FOR HIS
COMMUNITY IS WHAT COMPELS OUR
CITY, STATE, AND NATION TO LEAD
THE WAY IN RECOGNIZING THE
CONTINUED STRUGGLES AND
INJUSTICES ENDURED BY MANY THAT
STILL DEMAND OUR ATTENTION AND
HUMANITY.
OW, THEREFORE, I, WILLIAM V.
“BILL” BELL, MAYOR OF DURHAM,
NORTH CAROLINA, DO HEREBY
PROCLAIM DECEMBER 16, 2013 AS A
DAY TO HONOR NELSON MANDELA IN
THE CITY OF DURHAM; AND, TO
ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS
TO REFLECT ON THE SIGNIFICANT
IMPACT HE MADE IN OUR WORLD AND
TO COMMIT TO KEEPING HIS LEGACY
ALIVE BY WORKING TO ERADICATE
INEQUALITY AND INJUSTICE IN OUR
NATION.
ITNESS MY HAND AND THE
CORPORATE SEAL OF THE CITY OF
DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, THIS THE
16TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2013.
I ASK OWEN TO JOIN ME FOR
COMMENT.
>> I THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND
EVERYONE IN THE CITY.
SO MANY OF US HAVE TAKEN THE
LIBERTY TO GET IT WRONG FOR SO
MANY YEARS, I THINK IT IS NOW
TIME TO GET IT RIGHT.
WE SAW THE MAN, WE SHOULD DO
SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT HE TAUGHT,
WHAT WE LEARNED.
IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE PROBABLY
WON'T.
WHAT THIS PROCLAMATION MEANS,
THANK YOU, AGAIN, WE STARTED IT
HERE IN DURHAM.
WE WILL SIGN IT.
MANY SIGNATURES, MANY
GOVERNMENTS, TOWNS,
ORGANIZATIONS.
I'M GOING TO SEND IT TO DAVID
PRICE, OUR CONGRESSMAN, I'M
GOING TO SEND IT TO DAUGHTERS O
CONFEDERATE REPUBLIC.
I'M SENDING IT WHEREVER.
I THINK WE WANT TO SIGN IT, WE
WANT TO PASS IT ON.
WE STARTED IT HERE IN DURHAM,
AND I THINK EVERYONE CAN TAKE
PART OF IT.
IT IS CALLED AMANZA AWAITU.
MS. REGINA LEONARD.
SHE WROTE IT.
IT JUST CAME OUT OF HER.
SHE'S A RESIDENT OF THIS AREA
SHE'S NOT EVEN HERE, SHE'S IN
CALIFORNIA.
SHE SENT IT, SHE DID IT.
I THANK HER AND I THANK YOU.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO ROLL THE
VIDEO THAT WE HAVE?
♪ ♪
[VOCALIZING]
♪ IT ALWAYS SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE.
♪ UNTIL IT STOPS, DON'T GIVE UP
♪ MY SWEET LOVE, DON'T CLOSE
YOUR EYES
♪ THERE'S TOO MUCH LOVE.
WE'LL WIN THIS FIGHT
♪
♪
STILL WE RISE, AND WE RISE
♪ [VOCALIZING]
>> I AM FREE.
>> I AM FREE.
>> TO BE FREE IS NOT MERELY TO
PASS OFF ONE'S CHAIN, BUT TO
LIVE IN A WAY THAT REFLECTS AND
ASKS THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS.
♪ I AM THE MASTER OF MY FATE.
I AM THE CAPTAIN OF MY DESTINY.
♪
[APPLAUSE]
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, AGAIN.
THE WORDS THAT SHE WAS REPEATING
IS IN ZULU.
THOSE WERE ACTUAL PEOPLE --
NATIVE OF THAT LAND AND IT MEANS
POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU, WHEN YOU SEE THE
PROCLAMATION, I DON'T KNOW IF I
WILL BE ONLINE, IF YOU WILL SEE
IT PHYSICALLY, BUT WE WANT TO
PASS IT, SIGN IT, SIGN IT, SIGN
IT, AND WE WILL SEND IT TO OUR
NEXT TOWN OR WHOMEVER, THANK YOU
AGAIN.
[APPLAUSE]
>> LET ME AND THE CITY MANAGER.
>> I THINK RHONDA PARKER,
DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
WILL INTRODUCE THE NEXT ITEM.
>> I'M RHONDA PARKER, GOOD
EVENING, RESIDENTS OF DUR, CITY
COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
I'M PROUD TO PRESENT TO YOU THE
FOUNDER OF THE ABSOLUTE CARE
FOUNDATION.
IN LATE MAY, 2013, THEY
CONTACTED STAFF ABOUT A
SIGNIFICANT DONATION.
THEY WANTED TO RENOVATE A PARK.
AND WE HAD, HAD VARIOUS
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CAROL
STREET COMMUNITY ABOUT THE CAROL
STREET PARK AND SOME OF THE
NEEDS THEY HAD AND THOUGHT THIS
WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING
THEM TOGETHER TO BREATHE NEW
LIFE INTO THE SMALL PARK.
THE FOUNDATION AND STAFF OF
ABSOLUTE DENTAL SERVICES DONATE
$14,680, DURING THE RENOVATION
OF THIS PARK.
THEY HAVE AGREED TO ADOPT THE
PARK FOR MANY YEARS, WHICH
EXTENDS EXTRAORDINARY BENEFITS
OF THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE AT
THE PARK.
THEIR COMMITMENT WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE A PROFOUND IMPACT ON TH
COMMUNITY, AND THE RESIDENTS OF
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HOPE THAT THIS PROJECT IS THE
BEGINNING OF A LONG AND MUTUALLY
BENEFICIAL PARTNERSHIP FOR THE
FOUNDATION AND THE CITY OF
DURHAM.
CONRAD RENTSBURG.
[APPLAUSE]
>> THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME.
MAYOR BELL, THANK YOU FOR
HONORING MADIBA.
I WAS BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA, AND
I AM A PRODUCT OF NELSON
MANDELA.
I HAD THE HONOR OF GOING BACK A
COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND I
COULD ACTUALLY WITNESS THE
DIFFERENCE IN IT HOW THE PEOPLE
ARE GETTING ALONG AND
INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER AND
HOW BIG A CHANGE THIS MAN TRULY
MADE IN SOUTH AFRICA.
HE WAS A TRULY AMAZING MAN.
HE TAUGHT ALL OF US SO MUCH.
IT IS A SPECIAL MOMENT FOR ME AS
WELL TO BE HERE TONIGHT WITH OUR
MADI
MADIBA.
>> THEY TOLD ME I HAVE FIVE
MINUTES OR THEY WILL CUT THE
MICROPHONE OFF.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO DO
TONIGHT.
BUT IF YOU CAN, GIVE ME A FEW
MINUTES, I WOULD LIKE TO TELL
YOU ABOUT OUR FOUNDATION.
LET ME START BY SAYING, THANK
YOU TO ALL OF YOU IN THIS ROOM
FOR MAKING OUR CITY BEAUTIFUL.
DPAC, THE TOBACCO ROAD WE HAVE
NOWADAYS.
I'M SO PROUD TO BRING FRIENDS TO
DURHAM.
THEY HAVE THIS PERCEPTION OF
DURHAM, AND THEY GO WOW, THIS
PLACE IS AMAZING.
YOU DO AN IMMACULATE JOB.
SO PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT.
MY FOUNDATION IS THE FOUNDATION
OF ABSOLUTE DENTAL LAB.
ABSOLUTE DENTAL LAB IS LOCATED
ON UNIVERSITY DRIVE.
I'VE BEEN A DURHAMITE FOR 15
YEARS NOW AND IN THE SAME
LOCATION FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
WE BROUGHT TOGETHER A TEAM OF
TECHNICIANS FROM AROUND THE
WORLD.
WE HAVE 12 NATIONALITIES.
WHAT WE DO IS DENTAL
PROSTHETICS.
BASICALLY, WE WILL TAKE A SMILE
THAT DOESN'T LOOK SO GREAT.
THE PATIENT WILL GO TO THE
DENTIST, THEY WILL CUT THE TEETH
BACK.
WE WILL THEN PUT DENTAL
PROSTHETICS IN PLACE, CERAMIC
DENTAL PROSTHETICS TO REPLACE
THE DENTITION THE PATIENT LOST.
ARTISTIC GROUP OF PEOPLE WE PUT
TOGETHER.
WE'RE ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
DENTAL LABS IN NORTH CAROLINA.
THE LAB IS 20 YEARS OLD TODAY -
20 YEARS OLD NEXT YEAR, I'M
SORRY.
I'M PROUD TO LEAD THIS GROUP OF
PEOPLE.
SO WE FOUND OUT KIND OF THE HAR
WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO
IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT WE
DO THROUGH WHAT WE DO.
IF YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU ARE GOOD
AT AND BE IN THE FORTUNATE
SITUATION OF GIVING BACK, THAT
DEFINES WHAT YOU DO.
THE FIRST OUTREACH IN DURHAM WA
WITH ONE HIT FOUNDATION.
THEY TAKE CHILDREN OFF THE
STREET AND TEACH THEM AMATEUR
BOXING.
WE HAD A GREAT FIGHT NIGHT AT
THE DURHAM ARMORY A WHILE BACK.
THE WHOLE TEAM WAS THERE.
WE WERE GLAD TO COSPONSOR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE -- OUR GOAL IS TO BE A PART
OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE DO A LOT OF GIVE A SMILE.
WE MET AMY HELDRIFF, 23 YEARS
OLD.
LOST ALL HER TEETH DUE TO
MISDIAGNOSED LYME DISEASE.
TO SEE A WOMAN OF THAT AGE WALK
AROUND WITH REMOVABLE DENTURES
AND HOW SHE EVOLVED BY OUR
DONATION.
WHAT WE DID, I GOT A GROUP OF
SURGEONS, PROSTODONTISTS FROM
DURHAM COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
THEY ALL DONATED TIME AND SKILLS
AND WE GAVE AMY HER SMILE BACK.
WHAT OUR FOUNDATION DOES IS
BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO
SHOW WHAT WE CAN DO.
THIS PROSTHESIS IS ONE OF THOSE
BASED ON DENTAL IMPLANTS,
SCREWED DOWN INTO THE MOUTH.
LET ME SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE
THAT WE COULD MAKE IN AMY'S LIFE
WHEN WE MET HER ORIGINALLY.
YOU KNOW THIS WAS AMY THE FIRST
DAY WE SAW HER.
AND THAT WAS AMY FOUR MONTHS
LATER WHEN WE DID THE
PROSTHESIS.
NOW, THIS REALLY IS A
LIFE-CHANGING EXPERIENCE.
BUT WHAT I FOUND WAS, MY TEAM,
THEY JUST ARE MAKING ANOTHER SE
OF TEETH.
I SAID LET'S REACH OUT FURTHER
AND SHOW THEM WHAT A DIFFERENCE
WE CAN MAKE AND HOW GOOD IT
FEELS TO REACH OUT TO THE
COMMUNITY.
WE FOUND A FAMILY THAT HAS BEEN
REALLY HAD A HARD TIME, LOST HER
HUSBAND, HER MOM, AND HER
17-YEAR-OLD SON TO CANCER.
HAD REALLY NO RESOURCES LEFT.
THEY LIVED IN A HOUSE THAT HAD
NO SEWAGE, NO WATER.
AND ONE SUNDAY NIGHT, I WAS
SITTING AT HOME, I HATE TO
ADMIT, I THINK I HAD A BEER OR
TWO, I LOOKED AT THE EXTREME
HOME MAKEOVER, I THOUGHT WELL,
THAT LOOKS PRETTY EASY.
I SAID TO MY TEAM, LET'S TAKE
THIS FAMILY AND HOW ABOUT WE DO
AN EXTREME HOME MAKEOVER.
EVERYBODY WAS ALL GUNG-HO
BECAUSE IT LOOKED SO EASY IF YOU
DO IT IN AN HOUR.
WE WENT IN SUNDAY AFTERNOON, GO
THE AURELIA RESCUE MISSION TO
HELP US, MOVED THE FAMILY INTO
LOCAL HOTEL.
FOR SEVEN DAYS WE SPENT 96 HOURS
WITH 25 VOLUNTEERS ANDRY -- AND
REDID THE HOUSE FOR THEM.
60 TECHNICIANS, FEW PEOPLE FROM
JIFFY LUBE AND USC GYM.
THE BEFORE AND AFTER WAS
AWESOME.
WE DID THAT IN SEVEN DAYS.
IT SHOWS YOU, IF YOU BRING
REGULAR PEOPLE TOGETHER AND GIVE
THEM A PURPOSE, I WAS TELLING
MS. PARKER EARLIER, THE GUY THAT
DONATED ALL THE LANDSCAPING SAID
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING GOOD TO DO FOR SO
LONG.
A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE
APPROXIMATE BACK.
THIS WAS THE BEDROOM BEFORE AND
THAT WAS THE BEDROOM AFTER.
OUR TEAM DID A GOOD JOB.
IT WAS NOT JUST GIVING TO THE
FAMILY BUT SHOWING OUR TEAM WHAT
A DIFFERENCE WE CAN MAKE IN THE
LIVES OF OTHERS.
I THINK WE TOUCHED THOSE
PEOPLE'S LIVES.
NOW, I THINK TO DEFINE OUR
FOUNDATION, I WOULD LIKE TO SHO
YOU THIS CLIP WRAL DID ON OUR
HOUSE PROJECT AND PROBABLY
EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY WE DO THIS
AND WHY I'M SO PROUD TO BE A
PART OF THIS.
>> OFTENTIMES A GIFT OF SURVIVA
WILL SAY IT IS A BLESSING IN
DISGUISE.
TAKE LESS FOR GRANTED.
ONE LOCAL MAN SURVIVED
COLORECTAL CANCER IS PAYING IT
FORWARD.
TAKE A LOOK AT HIS FOUNDATION'S
FIRST MAJOR PROJECT..
>> THESE PICTURES WERE -- THE
MAD RUSH TO FINISH THE SIX-DAY
RENOVATION PROJECT.
GWEN GRIFFIN AND HER CHILDREN
HAVEN'T BEEN HOME SINCE LAST
WEEKEND.
>> THE REAL SHOCKER CAME WHEN
THEY STEPPED INSIDE FOR THE
FIRST TIME.
>> THE NEW LIVING ROOM.
>> LOOK AT THIS PLACE.
>> OH, MY GOSH.
OH, THANK YOU, LORD!
OH, THANK YOU, JESUS.
SHE'S BEEN EMOTIONALLY AND
FINANCIALLY DRAINED.
THE LAST FEW YEARS SHE LOST HER
MOTHER AND HUSBAND TO CANCER.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, HER
17-YEAR-OLD SON LOST HIS BATTLE
TO THE DISEASE.
>> I AM SO GRATEFUL.
I AM SO GRATEFUL.
SO THANKFUL.
>> THIS PROJECT WAS EVEN
POSSIBLE BECAUSE AFTER CONRAD
RENFORD RECENTLY SURVIVED
CANCER, HE CHANGED HIS OUTLOOK
ON LIFE.
>> YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ANOTHER
DAY TO DO THINGS FOR SOMEBODY
ELSE.
LEAVING A LEGACY IS
[INDISCERNIBLE].
>> HE AND HIS BUSINESS PARTNERS
STARTED A NEWFOUNDATION TO HENE
OTHERS.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> ONCE WE SAW THE HORRIBLE
CONDITIONS, WE SAID THIS WAS TH
PROJECT FOR US.
>> THEY CLEARED THE HOUSE,
STARTED FROM SCRATCH.
NEW WALLS, CEILING, FLOORS,
FRESH PAINT AND TILES.
A BIGGER BATHROOM, DONATED
FURNITURE AND ART AND NEWLY
BUILT CLOSETS.
>> IT'S THE DOOR TO A FRESH
START.
>> THE HOUSE IS AMAZING.
I'VE NEVER SEEN IT THIS
BEAUTIFUL BEFORE.
I NEVER HAVE.
>> I LOVE IT.
WRAL NEWS, WILLOW SPRINGS.
>> SUCH JOY AFTER SUCH
HEARTACHE.
>> THE ABSOLUTE CARE FOUNDATION
HAD ROUGHLY 95 VOLUNTEERS PUT IN
2600 MAN-HOURS.
DOZENS OF AREA BUSINESSES ALSO
SUPPORTED THE PROJECT TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT THE FOUNDATION, LOOK
FOR THIS STORY ON WRAL.COM.
>> IN THE FUTURE, I HOPE I CAN
STAND HERE EVERY YEAR AND SHOW
YOU WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
THAT IS THE DREAM.
CAROL STREET PARK.
WAS A HOLE IN THE FOREST.
I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A PARK.
MY TEAM WENT IN, WE DID SOME
TREE RESCULPTURING, THE
BASKETBALL HAD A SIX-FOOT HOOP.
WE PUT IN A NICE, STANDARD
REGULATION, WHICH FELT LIKE A
20-FOOT HOOP FOR ME.
I REALIZED I WILL NEVER BE A
BASKETBALL PLAYER.
BUT THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER.
I WAS TELLING MS. RHONDA, ONE OF
THE NEIGHBORS CAME OVER AND SAI
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE
RIGHT THING TO DO.
BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON, HALF THE
NEIGHBORS WERE HELPING, KIDS
WERE PUSHING WHEELBARROWS, WE
COULD TRANSFORM THE PARK.
ON SUNDAY, WE GAVE IT BACK TO
THE COMMUNITY WITH A NICE BIG
COOKOUT AND BARBECUE.
WE HAD 15 OF OUR BUSINESS
PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, SOME LOCAL
DENTISTS, SOME OF THE BIG
IMPLANT COMPANIES, NATIONAL
IMPLANT COMPANIES DONATING TIME
AND MONEY TO THIS PROJECT.
SO TO US, IT WAS TRULY AMAZING
TO SEE, JUST PUTTING THESE
PEOPLE TOGETHER, JUST HELPING
AND SAYING HEY, WE'LL BE THE
VEHICLE TO GET YOU GUYS TO DO
SOMETHING, WHAT A BIG DIFFERENC
WE CAN MAKE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT, YOU
KNOW, THE HELP I RECEIVED FROM
DURHAM PARKS AND RECREATION.
I HOPE FROM HERE ON OUT, WE CAN
DO GREAT PROJECTS.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPE THAT
NEXT YEAR I CAN STAND UP HERE
WITH THE SAME MESSAGE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[APPLAUSE]
>> WELL, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIAT
YOUR WORK AND PARTICULARLY IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT AS YOU DO IT THROUGHOUT THE
REGION.
I CONSTANTLY TELL PEOPLE THAT
DURHAM IS A CITY THAT'S VERY
CARING AND GIVING AND YOU
CERTAINLY EPITOMIZE THAT IN WHAT
YOU DID.
I HAD A CHANCE TO GO BY THE PAR
SINCE YOU HAVE DONE IT.
I HAVE SEEN THE TRANSFORMATION.
I'M SURE THE COMMUNITY AND THE
CITY ARE VERY PROUD OF WHAT YOU
GUYS DID.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I DON'T NORMALLY TALK ABOUT
THINGS THAT I DO, BECAUSE I GO
TO A LOT OF PLACES AS MAYOR.
I THOUGHT, IN VIEW OF THIS
PRESENTATION AND MAYBE SOME
OTHER NEWS THAT'S NOT SO GOOD
THAT WE HAD IN DURHAM, I WANT T
SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT OUR
COMMUNITY.
THIS EVENING, I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE JOHN
AVERY BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
I WAS INVITED TO GO OR BECAUSE A
YOUNG GROUP OF MENTORS HAVE
TAKEN AN ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT IN
THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE A FOOTBALL
TEAM CALLED THE DURHAM RAIDERS,
7TH AND 9TH GRADE FROM DIFFEREN
SCHOOLS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY RECENTLY WON THE TURKEY
BOWL.
FOR THEIR AGE GROUP IN CHARLOTT
THIS WEEK IN TERMS OF FOOTBALL.
THEY WANTED ME TO STOP BY AND
TAKE A PHOTO WITH THEM, WITH TH
FOOTBALL TEAM.
WHAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME IS
THE FACT THAT A LOT OF GOOD
THINGS HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, BOTH
GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS COME
TOGETHER TO TRY TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT
WAS DONE THIS EVENING.
BUT THE OTHER PART ABOUT DURHAM
IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE FAST
BECOMING A CITY OF CHAMPIONS IN
ATHLET
ATHLETICS.
LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WITH DUKE
FOOTBALL TEAM, CERTAINLY DUKE
BASKETBALL TEAM, DUKE WOMEN AND
MEN BASKETBALL TEAM.
RECENTLY, SOUTHERN HIGH SCHOOL
OBTAINED THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN
THREE A IN THE STATE.
NCCU IS COMING BACK WITH THE
BASKETBALL TEAM, THE WOMEN'S
BASKETBALL TEAM.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS
THAT HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SOME, NOT SO GOOD.
BUT I HOPE THE GOOD THINGS THAT
WE HEAR -- DON'T HEAR ENOUGH
ABOUT, CERTAINLY OUTWEIGH THE
CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN THE
COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE
EFFORTS LIKE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
THIS EVENING AND EFFORTS OF A
LOT OF PEOPLE.
IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT MAKE
THINGS HAPPEN FOR A GOOD WAY.
I'M CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT
GOOD THINGS HAPPENING IN DURHAM
AND CERTAINLY BECAUSE OF THE
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I WANTED TO SAY THAT.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE TAKE A LOT
OF THINGS FOR GRANTED.
AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY
RECOGNIZE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
DOING GOOD THINGS ON THEIR OWN.
BUT ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
NOT JUST IN THE CITY, BUT IN TH
LIVES OF A LOT OF OUR YOUNG
PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE THAT
NEED THE HELP.
SO I CONSTANTLY SAY GOOD THINGS
ARE HAPPENING IN DURHAM, DESPIT
OF THE CHALLENGES WE SEE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
I STILL INSIST WE WILL BE UP TO
MEETING THE CHALLENGES.
HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL
RECOGNIZE COUNCIL FOR ANY NENTS
THEY HAVE OR THE TO MAKE.
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN DAVIS.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
>> RECOGNIZING THIS IS THE FINA
MEETING FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR
2013.
I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND
RECOGNIZE, 50 YEARS AGO, 1963
WAS A PIVOTAL YEAR IN THE HUMAN
CIVIL RIGHTS IN DURHAM.
THUS FAR THIS YEAR, THERE HAVE
BEEN SEVERAL COMMUNITY PROBLEMS
IN CELEBRATION OF THE GOLDEN
ANNIVERSARY OF THE NORTH
CAROLINA FUND, CIVIL RIGHTS
MARCHES AND PRINCIPAL LEADERSHI
OF THE THEN NEWLY ELECTED MAYOR
WYNNE SKRUBEREK.
ONE OF THE CRITICAL FACTORS IN
THE INTEGRATION OF RESTAURANTS,
MOVIE THEATERS AND OTHER PUBLIC
FACILITIES IN OUR FACULTY WAS
THE COURAGEOUS FOUR-PAGE
NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENT THAT
LISTED HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUAL
CITIZENS WHO ENCOURAGED LOCAL
MERCHANTS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE TO
SERVE AND HIRE PEOPLE WITHOUT
REGARD TO RACE.
THIS FOUR-PAGE ADVERTISEMENT
INCLUDED SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO
WOULD GO ON TO BECOME LOCAL
ELECTED OFFICIALS INCLUDING
ROBERT GHIRARDELLI, MARGARET
KELLER AND SYLVIA KIRKO.
I DON'T WANT THE 50-YEAR
ANNIVERSARY OF THE NEWSPAPER
ADVERTISEMENT TO PASS, WITHOUT
ACKNOWLEDGE THINK THESE
CITIZENS.
SEVERAL OF WHOM ARE STILL
WORKING AND LIVING IN DURHAM.
I PLACED A COPY OF THE
ADVERTISEMENT IN EACH OF YOUR
PLACES AND A FEW ADDITIONAL
COPIES HAVE BEEN PLACED AT THE
CLERK'S DESK.
I'M CERTAIN THAT YOUFUL SEE
NAMES WITH WHOM YOU ARE
FAMILIAR.
THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT
TO ALL OF OUR ATTENTION AND
RECOGNITION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY COUNCIL
MEMBERS?
IF NOT, I WILL PROCEED WITH THE
PRIORITY ITEMS.
FIRST BY THE CITY MANAGER.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
NO PRIORITY ITEMS.
>> LIKEWISE, CITY ATTORNEY?
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, NO
PRIORITY ITEMS.
>> LIKEWISE, CITY CLERK?
>> NO ITEMS, MR. MAYOR.
>> WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE
AGENDA, THE FIRST BEING THE
CONSENT AGENDA.
THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TO BE
APPROVED BY A SINGLE VOTE OF TH
COUNCIL, UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBE
DECIDES TO HAVE AN ITEM MOVED OR
IF SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE
REQUESTS IT BE REMOVED WE
DISCUSS IT LATER..
THE FIRST ITEM
1. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
2. RALEIGH-DURHAM AIRPORT
AUTHORITY - APPOINTMENT
3. HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION -
APPOINTMENT
4. ORDINANCE TO REVISE
RESTRICTIONS ON SOLICITING MOTOR
VEHICLES IN ROADWAYS AND TO
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT.
>> SIX IS THE DONATION OF CAROL
STREET PARK.
ITEM SEVEN IS LEASE OF
NONRESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
HOLLAND ALLEY.
10 IS 2014 FINANCIAL CRIMES TAS
FORCE GRANT.
11 IS AMENDMENT TO FITNESS
MEDICAL RISK TRAINING CONTRACT
FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES.
I NEED TO PULL ITEM 10.
2014 FINANCIAL CRIMES TASK FORC
GRANT.
AND ALSO ITEM 11, AMENDMENT TO
THE FITNESS MEDICAL RISK
TRAINING CONTRACT FOR
PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES.
ITEM 13 IS CITY SEWER USE
ORDINANCE CHAPTER 7, ARTICLE IV
REVISION AND WASTEWATER
PRETREATMENT AND INTERLOCAL
AGREEMENT WITH DURHAM COUNTY.
ITEM 14 CAN BE FOUND ON THE
GENERAL BUSINESS AGENDA.
ITEM 15-26 ARE ITEMS THAT BE
FOUND ON THE GENERAL BUSINESS
AGENDA.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE
APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA
WITH EXCEPTIONS OF ITEMS 10 AND
11.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE,
CLOSE THE VOTE.
WE RECOGNIZE CHIEF LOPEZ FOR THE
CRIME SUMMARY REPORT.
>> UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
PERFORMANCE MEASURES, BECAUSE OF
THE PROPERTY CRIME, PART 1 INDE
CRIME.
CLEARANCE RATES, RESPONSE TIMES
PRIORITY 1 CALLS.
STAFFING LEVELS.
>> I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE THIRD
QUARTER REPORT.
WHICH IS VERY GOOD.
BUT WE DO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE
HAD SOME RECENT VIOLENT CRIME
THAT HAS MADE THE HEADLINES.
WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE INCIDENTS
AND MADE SEVERAL ARRESTS.
THE PART ONE CRIME TOTALS ARE
THE LOWEST THEY'VE BEEN IN 14
YEARS.
THE PART ONE VIOLATE CRIME
TOTALS ARE THE SECOND LOWEST IN
14 YEARS.
2005 WAS LOWER.
PART ONE PROPERTY CRIME TOTALS
ARE ALSO THE SECOND LOWEST IN 1
YEARS.
LAST YEAR WAS SLIGHTLY LOWER.
VIOLENT CRIME WAS DOWN BY 8%
DURING THE FIRST NINE MONTHLESS
OF 2013 COMPARED TO THE FIRST
NINE MONTHS OF 2012.
THE DECREASE WAS DUE IN LARGE
PART TO A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN
THE NUMBER OF AGGRAVATED
ASSAULTS.
WE CONDUCTED SEVERAL VIOLENT
INCIDENT RESPONSES THIS YEAR,
WHICH WE BELIEVE HAS REDUCED TH
TOTAL AMOUNT OF RETALIATORY
VIOLENCE.
>> PROPERTY CRIMES ARE UP
SLIGHTLY FROM THE FIRST NINE
MONTHS IN 2012.
THIS IS DUE TO AN INCREASE IN
THE NUMBER OF LARCENIES WHICH
MAKE UP MORE THAN HALF OF ALL
REPORTED PART ONE CRIME.
BURGLARIES WERE DOWN BY 6%
DURING THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF
THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR
AND DOWN 19% FOR THE FIRST NINE
MONTHS OF 2011.
WE INTRODUCED OUR TORRENTIAL
AWARENESS PROGRAM IN THE 2011 TO
TARGET AN INCREASING BURGLARY
TREND AND WE BELIEVE THIS
BURGLARY HAS HELPED US REDUCE
THE NUMBER OF WRARS IN THE CITY.
DURHAM EMPLOYS MADE A
PRESENTATION ABOUT THE SUCCESS
OF THE PROGRAM AT THE NATIONAL
CONFERENCE IN WINSTON, SALEM.
WE HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE
LARCENIES OF METALS AND GPS
UNITS THIS YEAR.
WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO KEEP
GPS UNITS, LAPTOPS, COMPUTERS,
PURSES AND OTHER VALUABLES FROM
PLAIN VIEW.
WE HAVE HAD INCREASES IN THE
NUMBER OF LARCENIES FROM
BUILDINGS AND SHOPLIFTINGS THIS
YEAR.
PART ONE INDEX CRIMES AND
VIOLENT PROPERTY CRIMES.
PART ONE DOWN SLIGHTLY IN 2014
AND 14 YEAR LOW FOR THAT PERIOD
THE LARGEST DECREASES WERE IN
THE NUMBERS OF REPORTED
AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS AND
BURGLARIES.
THE F.B.I. STATISTICS IN CITIES
FOR THE SIZE OF DURHAM WITH A
POPULATION OF 100 TO 250
THOUSAND RESIDENTS.
ALL CLEARANCE NUMBERS ARE
PRELIMINARY AND WE EXPECT THEM
TO INCREASE.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS
TO MORE THAN FOUR THOUSAND
PRIORITY ONE CALLS OF SERVICE
DURING THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF
2013.
OUR TARGET AVERAGE RESPONSE TIM
FOR PRIORITY ONE CALLS IS 5.8
MINUTES AND WE MET THAT GOAL.
ANOTHER GOAL IS TO RESPOND TO A
LEAST 57% OF OUR PRIORITY ONE
CALLS IN UNDER FIVE MINUTES.
WE DID NOT MEET THAT GOAL.
ALTHOUGH IT IS AN AGGRESSIVE
GOAL, WE WILL CONTINUE GOING
AFTER IT.
OUR SWORN POSITIONS ARE FULLY
STAFFED AND REMAIN FULLY STAFFED
AT THIS TIME.
10 NEW OFFICERS GRADUATED FROM
THE BASIC TRAINING ACADEMY BLET
IN JULY.
WE HAVE 10 RECRUITS IN BLET
ACADEMY THAT STARTED IN AUGUST.
WE HAVE 14 VACANCIES IN THE
NONSWORN POSITIONAS THE END OF
THE QUARTER.
MANY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING
FILLED AT THIS TIME.
WE HAD ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL
NATIONAL NIGHT OUT CELEBRATION
WITH MORE THAN 100 COMMUNITIES
PARTICIPATING.
WE'RE RECENTLY NOTIFIED THAT
THIS YEAR, THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF TOWN WATCH RANK
DURHAM POLICE DEPARTMENT 13TH
OUT OF 132 SIMILAR-SIZED CITIES
ACROSS THE NATION, COMPETING FOR
NATIONAL NIGHT OUT HONORS.
THIS YEAR, WE CELEBRATED THE
30th ANNIVERSARY OF NATIONAL
NIGHT OUT ALONG WITH THE 30th
BIRTHDAY OF DURHAM'S CRIME
STOPPERS.
LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF GOOD
THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY
OF DURHAM.
THE DURHAM POLICE DEPARTMENT HA
BEEN PARTICIPATING IN OUTREACH
AND SAFETY INITIATIVES DURING
THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 7, MORE THAN
60 OFFICERS GATHERED AT THE
TARGET ON DURHAM CHAPEL HILL
BLFT TO HELP 40 CHILDREN SHOP
FOR CHRISTMAS GIFTS.
THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE
PROVIDED FUNDING FOR THE
SHOPPING SPREE.
OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE UNIT WILL
BE CONDUCTING SHOPPING SWEEPS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO ALERT
SHOPPERS ABOUT CARELESS
BEHAVIORS THAT MIGHT ATTRACT
THIEVES SUCH AS LEAVING PURSES,
SHOPPING CARTS AND LEAVING GIFT
ITEMS IN PLAIN VIEW IN VEHICLES.
ON THURSDAY, CENTRAL DISTRICT
OFFICES PROVIDED A HOLIDAY LUNCH
AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE
RESIDENTS OF HOLE MILL
APARTMENTS ON ANGIER AVENUE.
OFFICERS MORTON AND KEHALOA
PLAYED GUITAR AND SANG HOLIDAY
SONGS AND ORIGINAL SONGS FOR TH
RESIDENTS.
DURING THIS MONTH, OFFICERS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY WILL HELP
THOSE LESS FORTUNATE BY BUYING
GIFTS, HOLDING COAT DRIVES AND
COORDINATING HOLIDAY MEALS.
I WANT TO END THIS PRESENTATION
BY DISCUSSING OUR RECENT KALIA
COLD STANDARD AWARD.
OUR DEPARTMENT IS THE FIRST AND
ONLY DEPARTMENT WITH MORE THAN
300 EMPLOYEES IN NORTH CAROLINA
TO ACHIEVE THIS DISTINCTION.
THIS PLACES DURHAM POLICE
DEPARTMENT IN A HIGH TIER AMONG
ACCREDITED AGENCIES THIS
ASSESSMENT FOCUSED MORE ON
DEPARTMENTAL PRACTICES VERY JUS
POLICY COMPLIANCE.
WE HAVE MAINTAINED KALIAH
ACCREDITATION AND RECEIVED A
MERITORIOUS AWARD FOR OUR
EFFORTS.
TWO DEPARTMENT INNOVATIVE
PROGRAMS WERE HIGHLIGHTED.
EMPLOYEES MADE PRESENTATIONS
ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AWARENESS
PROGRAM WHICH IS PART OF THE
INTELLIGENCE LED POLICING
INITIATIVE AND ALSO OUR POLICE
TRAINING OFFICERS PROGRAM.
WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO
SHARE SOME OF OUR SUCCESSFUL
PROGRAMS WITH OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
ALSO IN OCTOBER, THE FORENSIC
SCIENCES SERVICES UNIT BECAME
THE FIRST AGENCY IN THE STATE TO
RECEIVE ACCREDITATION OF THE
ISOEC STANDARDS, WHICH ARE
SPECIFIC TO INSPECTION UNITS AND
NOW USED TO CERTIFY CRIME SCENE
UNITS AND CRIME LAB SECTIONS FO
FORENSICS TESTING.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CHIEF.
BEFORE I HEAR COMMENTS FROM
COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE ONE
PERSON THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON
THIS ITEM.
I WILL ALLOW TWO MINUTES ON
THIS.
MS. VICTORIA PETERSON.
ITEM 14.
MS. PETERSON?
>> I'M NOT SURE, MR. MAYOR, ONE
OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO
ASK IN THE POLICE CHIEF'S
REPORT, HE HAS HERE FOR DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE CRIMES, ***, ***,
ROBBERY, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS
AN ACCIDENT HOW IT IS DONE ON
THIS PAGE.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE HERE, AS
I READ THIS, THIS YEAR, OVER 35
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CRIMES.
SO MAYBE SOMEBODY.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A
MISTAKE, THE WAY IT IS HEADED U
ON THE TOP.
MR. MAYOR WE HAVE A SERIOUS
PROBLEM IN THIS CITY.
I TALK TO HIM PRIVATELY.
WHEN I TALK PRIVATELY, I DON'T
HAVE A PROBLEM SAYING IT
PUBLICLY.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO NUMEROUS
PERSONS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I WILL ASK THE CITY COUNCIL
PUBLICLY WHAT I HAVE ASKED THE
MAYOR PRIVATELY.
WE'VE GOT TO GET A NEW POLICE
CHIEF IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'VE HAD TOO MANY MURDERS.
TOO MANY DEATHS, TOO MANY
SHOOTINGS GOING ON IN THIS
COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY IN THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE ON THE
PHONE TODAY.
OVER THE LAST PROBABLY, WHAT, 48
HOURS, WE'VE HAD TWO MURDERS,
ANOTHER DEATH BY MOTOR VEHICLES
AND TWO OTHER PERSONS SHOT IN
THIS COMMUNITY.
BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, SO FAR
I BELIEVE IT'S OVER 30-SOME
PERSONS IN THIS CITY, JUST THE
CITY ALONE THAT WE HAVE HAD
MURDERED.
MR. DAVIS, YOU'RE THE NEW PERSO
ON THE BLOCK.
THIS COMMUNITY HAS TO ADDRESS
THE CRIME PROBLEM.
I THINK ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT
THE POLICE CHIEF IS DOING, I
THINK WITH HIS OFFICERS ARE
GREAT.
BUT THAT IS NOT HELPING THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MY
COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
AND NOW WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS
GOING ON WITH THE LATINO
COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, AND I
THINK I SAID THIS TO STEVE
SCHEWEL.
THIS POLICE CHIEF IS COSTING US
MONEY.
EVERY ONE OF THE DEATHS, THOSE
PERSONS ARE GOING TO BE HIRING
ATTORNEYS.
[BEEP] IT WILL COST THIS
COMMUNITY MONEY AND WE'VE GOT T
ADDRESS THAT.
I KNOW MR. MAYOR YOU WANT ME TO
SIT ON DOWN, BUT PLEASE.
>> YOU HAD TWO MINUTES.
I THINK YOU MADE YOUR POINT VER
CLEARLY.
SO YOU HAD TWO MINUTES.
IT'S ON THE RECORD.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO GET ANOTHER
MINUTE, MR. MAYOR.
>> I KNOW YOU WOULD.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT
TONIGHT, MS. PETERSON.
YOU MADE YOUR POINT.
>> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> QUITE WELCOME.
ARE THERE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ON THE
REPORT?
I RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN SCHEWEL,
COUNCILMAN DAVIS -- ARE YOU
POINTING AT SOMEBODY?
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN SCHEWEL.
>> THEY'RE MR. MAYOR.
IT
IT IS GREAT TO SEE THE CRIME
RATE CONTINUE TO GO DOWN.
THE LOWEST IN HAD 14 YEARS.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR
STAFF.
I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME
OF THE ISSUES SWIRLING AROUND
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT I
THINK WE ALL NEED TO -- I DON'T
THINK WE OUGHT TO LET THE REPOR
GO BY WITHOUT AT LEAST
ACKNOWLEDGING AND TALK ABOUT A
LITTLE BIT, CHIEF.
I WILL MAKE REMARKS I'M NOT
ASKING YOU TO RESPOND TO THEM.
BUT ... I HAVE BEEN THINKING
ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND THINKING
ABOUT WHAT YEAR DOING AND I
ATTENDED ANOTHER COMSTAT MEETING
WHERE OUR COMMAND STAFF OUR
CAPTAINS DO THIS TREMENDOUS JOB
OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE
DETAILS OF CRIME.
I HOPE WE CAN DO THAT, BECAUSE
IT IS AN IMPRESSIVE THING.
I RODE WITH AN OFFICER, OFFICER
HAYS IN DISTRICT 3, ONE RECENT
SATURDAY NIGHT.
I HAVE BEEN READING THE
DOCUMENTATION THAT FATE HAS
OFFERED, STATISTICS ABOUT THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TRAFFIC
STOPS AND SEARCHES.
I HAVE BEEN READING THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT'S VERY THOROUGH
RESPONSES TO THOSE.
ATTENDED A VICTIM FOR A HOMICID
VICTIM BY THE ORGANIZATION OF
NONVIOLENT DURHAM.
ATTEND UNDERSTAND THE CHIEF'S
PRESS CONFERENCE RECENTLY AND
SPOKE THERE TO BOTH CHIEF SMITH
AND CHIEF MARSH, I HAVE BEEN
SPEAKING TO PEOPLE WORKING WITH
THE HUERTA FAMILY INCLUDING
THOSE THAT WANT TO FIGURE OUT A
WAY TO RAISE THE FUNDS TO GET
JESUS HUERTA A BURIAL.
I TOOK A LONG WALK WITH
COUNCILWO
COUNCILWOMAN -- COUNCILMAN
MOFFITT.
ALL OF THIS DIDN'T GIVE ME
ANYTHING PROFOUND OR DEFINITIVE,
I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO OFFER.
FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THIS.
THE DURHAM POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
AN EXCELLENT DEPARTMENT, FILLED
WITH MEN AND WOMEN RACK, WHITE
AND HISPANIC.
CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND
GENERAL WELFARE.
A RODE WITH THEM TWO WEEKS AGO.
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THAT RIDE
RIDING WITH OFFICER HAYES, I WA
IMPRESSED WITH THE MANY AND
VARIOUS THINGS A POLICE OFFICER
IS CALLED TO DO DURING FIVE
HOURS ON THE AVERAGE SATURDAY
NIGHT.
OFFICER HAYS WAS VERY PROACTIVE
IN RESPONDING TO ASSIGNMENTS
RECEIVED OVER THE ROAND DIRECTE
PATROLS HE INITIATED ON HIS
PHONE.
HE ENCOUNTERED SEVERAL
SITUATIONS IN WHICH HE MADE WISE
DECISIONS.
HE HAD CLOSE COMMUNICATION WITH
HIS SQUAD.
MOVING ONE END OF THE DISTRICT
TO THE OTHER AND DID SO WITH
EXCELLENT KNOWLEDGE OF THE
TERRITORY.
FEW PEOPLE UNDERSTAND -- I KNOW
I DIDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND, THE
COMMUNITY CARE FUNCTION OF A
POLICE OFFICER, WHICH ON THIS
NIGHT WAS ALMOST AS IMPORTANT AS
THE CRIME-FIGHTING FUNCTION.
WE WENT TO A SCENE WHERE A
TODDLER WAS FOUND OUT IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
OFFICER HAYS HELPED SOMEONE TRY
TO STOP HARASSING PHONE CALLS,
WHEN WE ENDED THE NIGHT, PUSHING
A STALLED MOTORIST CAR OFF THE
PARKING LOT AT 11:30 APPROXIMATE
IT WAS REALLY COLD.
I WANT TO SAY I HELPED PUSH.
ON ONE OCCASION OFFICER HAYS IN
WHAT WAS CLEARLY A DANGEROUS
SITUATION, HANDLED WITH AN EYE
OF SAFETY AND HELP OF GETTING
THE JOB DONE.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY PROFILING FOR
THAT I COULD SPOT IN THIS
SITUATION.
I COULD SAY WITHOUT A SCINTILLA
OF DOUBT, OFFICER HAYS DID
PROFILE ANYONE OR EVEN CONSIDER
IT.
IN THE DARK OF THE NIGHT HE WAS
DOING HIS JOB WITHOUT REGARD FOR
RACE OR ETHNICITY.
THIS IS THE KIND OF JOB THAT TH
VAST MAJORITY OF OUR POLICE
FORCE IS DOING EVERY DAY.
BY AND LARGE, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS
THE STRONG SUPPORT OF OUR
COMMUNITY.
MAINLY, OUR COMMUNITY REGARDS
OUR POLICE OFFICERS AS FRIENDS,
HELPERS, PROTECTORS AND THEY
WANT MORE, NOT LESS POLICING IN
THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT IS WHAT I CONTINUALLY HEAR
FROM PACs AND NEIGHBORHOOD
GROUPS ACROSS THE CITY.
SECOND, I WANT TO BE CLEAR AT
THE SAME TIME THAT I TAKE THE
CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY
SERIOUSLY.
I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE
STATISTICS BY FATE AND ALLIES
ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STOPS.
I WANT TO SNAKE SURE -- ALL OF
US DO -- THAT THERE IS NOT A
HINTS OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION
IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE WORK OF FADE AND,S STARTED
AS PAINFUL AND USEFUL
CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY A
LARGE AND CITY GOVERNMENT IN
PARTICULAR ABOUT THESE VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES OF
DISCRIMINATION.
I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED BY THE GOOD
WORK OF CHIEF MARSH AND OTHERS
IN THE DEPARTMENT RESPONDING SO
FULLY AND CAREFULLY TO THE
STATISTICS COMPILED BY FADE.
I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR
STARTING US DOWN WHAT I THINK IS
A VERY GOOD PROCESS, OUT AT
HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION AND
SOON COMING TO US AT CITY
COUNCIL.
DURING THIS PROCESS, I THINK IT
IS CRITICAL THAT ALL OF US ON
COUNCIL AND IN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT GIVE UP ANY
DEFENSIVENESS WE MIGHT HAVE
ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
IF WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE WE
HAVE FOFACE CHARGES ABOUT BIAS
OR POLICE MISCONDUCT WITH AN
OPEN EAR AND OPEN HEART.
I KNOW THAT IS HARD WHEN WE WER
UNDER ATTACK, BUT IT IS
NECESSARY IF WE WILL MAKE
POSITIVE CHANGE.
ALONG THESE LINES, I WAS REALLY
IMPRESSED WITH THE CONCLUSIONS
OF THE REPORT SENT TO THE HUMAN
RELATIONS COMMISSION WHICH DON
MOFFITT SHARED TODAY.
I CAN SEE THE DEPARTMENT IS
ALREADY TAKING IMPORTANT STEPS
TO EXAMINE ITSELF AND TO CHANGE.
JUST A COUPLE OF THOSE
CONCLUSIONS.
FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE NOW TRYING TO DEVELOP A
METHOD OF ANALYZING OUR OFFICERS
INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC STOP DATA
MORE CLOSELY AND REVIEW THAT
ANNUALLY TO ENSURE OFFICERS ARE
COMPLYING WITH THE PROHIBITION
ON BIAS BASED POLICING.
GREAT THING.
ACTIVELY RESEARCHING THE
SUPPLEMENT OF THE STATE MANDATE
DIVERSITY TRAINING.
MORE ON THAT.
GREAT THING AND VERY IMPORTANT.
DISCOVERED THE COMPLAINANTS
DON'T KNOW WHEN AN OFFICER IS
ACTUALLY DISCIPLINED WHEN
COMPLAINTS ARE SUSTAIN ED.
THERE IS DISCUSSION IN HERE ON
THAT.
THERE IS THE RELEASE OF FACTS
IN. ATION REGARDING CRITICAL
INCIDENTS SOONER IN CERTAIN
SITUATIONS.
THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD
THINGS.
THIS IS IMPRESSIVE TO ME.
THE OPENNESS TO CHANGE WHICH IT
REPRESENTS IS WHAT WE NEED AND
IS THE RIGHT APPROACH.
LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE
DOING AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST
JOB OF THIS.
LET'S LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS FOR
CHANGING IN OUR PROCESS TO
LIMITED PARTNER US IMPROVE.
AS GOOD AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT
IS, IN SO MANY WAYS, WE CAN ALL
IMPROVE.
LET'S GIVE OUR DEPARTMENT THE
ENCOURAGEMENT TO DO SO.
AND FINALLY, I WANT TO SAY A
WORD ABOUT THE PROCESS WE'RE
UNDERGOING ABOUT THE THREE CASE
BEFORE US, CAMPO, WALKER AND
HUERTA.
EUGENE BROWN HAS MADE A CRITICA
OBSERVATION HERE THAT I WANT TO
SECOND.
ONE OF OUR BIG PROBLEMS IS THE
DISGRACEFUL UNDERFUNDING OF THE
SBI'S FORENSIC OFFICE.
THIS AFFECTLESS THE
POLICE-RELATED SHOOTINGS AND THE
ENTIRE STOPPING OF VIOLENCE IN
THE STATE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE AWAITING TRIAL
IN NORTH CAROLINA FAR TOO LONG
BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE
NEGLECTED THE DUTY TO ADEQUATEL
FUND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM
INCLUDING F.B.I. LABS.
I WANT TO THANK GENE FOR BEATING
THAT DRUM.
GIVEN THAT REALITY OF THE SBI
LAB, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A
DIFFERENT WAY TO INFORM OUR
PUBLIC.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED NOT TO
UNDERMINE THE SBI'S INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT NEED.
BUT THE SAME TIME, IN ALL THESE
CASES WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE OUT
A WAY THAT WE CAN INFORM OUR
PUBLIC OF KEY FACTS MUCH SOONER
THIS IS CRITICAL IF OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO KEEP AND
MAINTAIN THE CONFIDENCE OF THE
PUBLIC IN ITS TRUTHFULNESS AND
TRANSPARENCY.
THESE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
ASSETS.
THE FAITH THAT THE PUBLIC HAS IN
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
TRUTHFULNESS AND TRANSPARENCY
AND WE MUST NOT SQUANDER THEM.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THIS
MIGHT OCCUR, BUT I KNOW THAT IT
HAS TO.
FAR, FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE
TALKED TO ME IN THE PAST TWO
WEEKS ABOUT THE FAILURE OF THE
CITY TO COME FORWARD WITH ENOUG
INFORMATION IN THE VERY SAD AND
TRAGIC CASE OF JESUS HUERTA.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW HE COUL
HAVE KILLED HIMSELF WHILE IN
HANDCUFFS AND WE HAVE TO EXPLAI
HOW THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF
THAT.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH
ABOUT WHY HE WAS ABLE TO HAVE A
GUN IN THE POLICE CAR, IN THE
POLICE HEADQUARTERS PARKING LOT
WHILE HANDCUFFED?
WE HAVE TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW
WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT CASE AND
LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY
MAY.
IF A TERRIBLE MISTAKE WAS MADE
THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE TRAGIC
DEATH OF A YOUNG MAN, THAT TRUT
MUST COME OUT.
I URGE OUR CITY MANAGER AND TOP
BRASS AND THE DEPARTMENT AND
CITY ATTORNEY WHO I KNOW HAS AN
PENITENTIARY ROLE IN THE
DECISIONS TO FIGURE OUT TO GET
THE FULL TRUTH OUT RIGHT AWAY.
AS FOR THE OTHER INVESTIGATIONS,
I KNOW THAT MAYOR BELL AND OUR
CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN ON THE
PHONE TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT O
JUSTICE TALKING TO TOP PEOPLE
THERE AND URGING THEM TO GET TH
PROCESS MOVING.
THE SBI'S FAILURE JEOPARDIZES
THE CONFIDENCE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I THANK THE MAYOR AND CITY
MANAGER FOR TRYING TO MOVE IT
ALONG.
I HAD ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THE
STAFF OF THE DAY CENTER FOR
MENTAL HEALTH IN DURHAM.
IRENE SANG THE PRAISE OF OUR
DEPARTMENT.
AND THE PROGRAM THAT MANY
OFFICERS GO TO UNDER THE SPECIAL
SITUATIONS OF THE MENTALLY ILL
THEY FREQUENTLY ENCOUNTER ON TH
STREET.
PART OF THIS TRAINING IS AT
THRESHOLD.
WHEN THEY'RE AT THRESHOLD THERE
ARE AS MANY AS 30 OF THEM AT ANY
ONE TIME.
IRENE SAID SHE'S IMPRESSED WITH
WHAT SHE CALLS THE 100%
COMMITMENT OF OUR DEPARTMENT TO
THE CIP PROGRAM.
SHE REPORTED TWO RECENT
INCIDENTS WHERE OFFICERS WERE
NEEDED TO RESPOND.
SHE CALLED CIT.
CIT SUCCESSFULLY INTERVENED
WITHOUT ESCALATION IN DIFFICULT
SITUATIONS.
INSTEAD OF ENDING UPON IN
HANDCUFFS, BOTH OF THEM ENDED UP
AT DURHAM ACCESS INSTEAD.
THAT IS GREAT POLICE WORK.
THERE IS SO MUCH OF THAT GOING
ON EVERY SINGLE DAY IN DURHAM,
THAT GREAT POLICE WORK.
LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE
THAT THE STORY ON THE TOP OF
EVERYONE'S MIND IN DURHAM, NOT
BY A PUBLIC RELATIONS CAMPAIGN,
BUT BECAUSE WE RESPONDED
NONDEFENSIVELY AND
CONSTRUCTIVELY TO THE CRITICISMS
OF FADE AND OTHERS AND CHANGED
WHEN WE NEEDED TO CHANGE BECAUSE
WE HAVE DONE WHATEVER IT TAKES
TO GET THE TRUTH OUT TO OUR
COMMUNITY ABOUT THE
CONTROVERSIAL CASES OCCUPYING
THE HEADLINES.
BECAUSE WE FACE THE TRUTH
HEAD-ON, WHATEVER IT IS, AND
DEALT WITH THE CONSEQUENCES
HOWEVER DIFFICULT THEY MIGHT BE
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU, FOR THE COMMENTS
THEY WERE WELL CONSTRUCTED.
YOU HIT A LOT OF THE KEY POINTS.
I MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS BUT I'M
GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILMAN
DAVIS AT THIS POINT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I -- THE COMMENTS THAT STEVE
SCHEWEL HAS GIVEN, REALLY,
ANYTHING I WOULD SAY WOULD BE
JUST REITERATING WHAT HE HAS
DONE AND SAID AND THE RESEARCH
HE'S DONE.
BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT IN
ADDITION TO WHAT HE'S SAID, WE
CAN GIVE THE COMMUNITY OF DURHA
A SENSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY THAT
IS GOING ON AND DESIRED BY THE
COMMUNITY FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT WE ARE GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT THE
PROTOCOLS ARE OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO
SITUATIONS LIKE MR. WALKER'S
DOWN AT THE PLAZA.
THE RECENT ISSUE WITH A PERSON
BEING HANDCUFFED AND STILL BEING
ABLE TO KILL HIMSELF.
AND THE RECENT DEATH OF
MR. TAYLOR WHO WAS IN BED AND
WAS KILLED BY STRAY BULLETS.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS BEING
VERY PATIENT WHEN IT COMES TO
THE ANSWERS NEEDED AND PROTOCOL
UTILIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT SO
PEOPLE CAN RECOGNIZE THAT THE
GOOD WORK THAT YOU HAVE SHARED
TONIGHT, CHIEF, IS REINFORCED
AND RECOGNIZED IN SPITE OF THOS
THINGS YOU REPORTED ON.
SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN
LINGERING FOR MONTHS.
I KNOW THAT WE DON'T WANT TO
RUSH TO JUDGMENT WE WANT TO
ALLOW THE INVESTIGATIONS TO GO
FORWARD.
TOO MANY HAVE OCCURRED TOO OFTEN
AND WITHOUT THE KIND OF
TRANSPARENCY THAT THE CITIZENS
OF DURHAM DESERVE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS?
BEFORE THAT, RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMAN MOFFITT.
>> I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND
LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE IS A
LOT OF INFORMATION NOW ON THE
CITY'S WEBSITE ON MANY OF THE
ISSUES THAT COUNCILMAN SCHEWEL
WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.
A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
I KNOW PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AT
HOME.
I WILL TELL YOU HOW TO GET TO I
SO PEOPLE CAN FIND IT.
I WAS SPENDING A MINUTE MAKING
SURE I KNEW HOW TO GET THERE.
YOU WILL FIND THERE ARE 24
DOCUMENTS, RIGHT NOW, THAT COME
FROM THE INITIAL COMMUNITY
LISTENING SESSION THAT THE HUMAN
RELATIONS COMMISSION HELD AS
WELL AS SUBSEQUENT RESPONSES BY
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATIO
THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS IF
THEY'RE INTERESTED IN GOING TO
SOME OF THE SOURCE MATERIAL.
YOU GET THERE BY GOING TO THE
CITY'S WEBSITE.
DURHAMNC.GOV.
THERE IS A LINK CALLED INSIDE
CITY HALL.
UNDER THAT, CITY DEPARTMENTS.
NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT
SERVICES.
WHEN YOU GET THERE, ON THE RIGHT
SIDE, YOU WILL FIND A LINK FOR
HUMAN RELATIONS.
UNDER THAT, THE FOURTH HEADING
IS NEWS AND INFORMATION.
THE LINK UNDER THAT, UNDER NEWS
AND INFORMATION IS FOR ALL OF
THESE DOCUMENTS.
I WANT PEHOTO MAKE EVERYONE AWA
THAT IS AVAILABLE.
THEY'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON
THIS.
I HAVE SEEN THE CIVILIAN POLICE
REVIEW BOARD IS HOLDING A
HEAVENING SESSION AS WELL.
A LOT OF -- HOLDING A LISTENING
SESSION AS WELL.
A LOT OF WORK IS UNDERWAY AND I
IS A LOT OF GOOD.
>> CHIEF?
>> WE HAVE INFORMATION ON OUR
WEBSITE, AND FACEBOOK, WE PUT
THE REPORTS OUT.
AND WORKING WITH SBI TO GET THE
INFORMATION OUT.
I HAVE TO SAY SOMETIMES THE
INFORMATION IS NOT THERE, SO WE
CANNOT PUT IT OUT.
MATTER OF FACT, MANY TIMES WE
HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS FACTUAL
BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT.
BECAUSE WE'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
FOR WHAT WE SAW SAY.
AT THE SAME POINT IN TIME, AS
FAR AS THE YOUNG MAN SHAVES SHO
WHEN HE WAS SLEEPING.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE
OUTRAGED THEY SHOULD GET ANGRY,
THE ANSWER IS ON THE STREET,
INSIDE THE COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO COME
FORWARD AND LET US KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED THERE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT
WILL BE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT AND
ASSIST US.
AS FAR AS THE VIOLENCE OCCURRIN
IN THE CITY OF DURHAM, WE NEED
THE COMMUNITY TO HELP US.
IT CAN'T BE THE POLICE ALL THE
TIME.
I'M FORTUNATE TO HAVE A CITY
WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE
COMMUNITY REALLY WORKS WITH THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S HOW I CAN GIVE YOU ALL
THE LOW NUMBER PRESIDENCY THAT'
THE REALITY.
TO EXCEPT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
OR POLICE CHIEF TO SOLVE IT ALL,
THAT IS NOT REASONABLE TO
EXPECT.
I WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS I'M
HERE, HOPEFULLY FOUR MORE, TO
GIVE YOU THE BEST POLICE
DEPARTMENT POSSIBLE.
I AM FORTUNATE TO HAVE AN
ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE MEN AND
WOMEN WHO CARE ABOUT THIS
COMMUNITY.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT
THERE EVERY DAY IN SPITE OF.
THANK YOU.
I ALSO AM FORTUNATE TO HAVE A
COUNCIL THAT TOTALLY SUPPORTS
THIS ORGANIZATION AND A CITY
MANAGER THAT WORKS WITH US ON A
DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN REFERENCE TO
MAKE THIS NOT ONLY THE BEST
POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE WORLD,
BUT ALSO PART OF THE BEST CITY
IN THE WORLD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CHIEF.
LET ME SAY THAT WE FULLY
APPRECIATE THE ISSUES.
NONE OF US WERE AT THE EVENTS
THAT OCCURRED THAT I'M AWARE OF
WE DON'T KNOW.
WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON
PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE GIVEN THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO SOLVE THE
CRIMES.
WE STRESSED TO THEM HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO COME TO
RESOLUTION ON THE ISSUES BEFORE
THEM.
THEY EXPRESSED THE CONCERNS AND
IN FACT, THE DIRECTOR OF THE
STATE SBI FAMILY LIVES IN
DURHAM.
HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE GOING
THROUGH HE HAS NO REASON NOT TO
DO ANYTHING OTHER.
A LOT OF COMPONENTS TO BRING THE
ISSUES TO SOME TYPE OF
RESOLUTION.
NOT ONLY THE SBI WHEN YOU HAVE
HOMICIDES, YOU HAVE THE CHIEF
MEDICAL EXAMINER, NOT OUT OF
SVI.
IT IS OUT OF THE STATE MEDICAL
EXAMINER.
THERE WERE ISSUES OUT OF THE
MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE
RECENTLY.
I'M SURE THERE IS A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF CAUTION GOING ON TO
MAKE SURE IT WAS RIGHT, WHATEVER
IS PRESENTED TO US THEN THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT
IS CHARGED WITH BRINGING THE
CRIMES FORWARD.
I HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO
KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO REST A
JUDGMENT ON THESE ISSUES, NO
MATTER HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE,
YOU DON'T WANT TO RUSH THE
JUDGMENT.
NONE OF US ARE CRIME SOLVERS, WE
HAVE THOUGHTS ON HOW IT
HAPPENED.
THEY WILL RELY ON WHAT IS
REPORTED FROM SVI.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
WE CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN
ANY QUICKER THAN WE ARE TRYING
TO DO.
IT IS NO REASON THAT WE DON'T
WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THAT
ONCE THE REPORTS COME OUT, IF WE
FIND THERE WERE MISDEADS OR
MISACTIONS TAKEN BY OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENT I'LL BE FIRST TO
STAND UP TO SAY TO THE CITY
MANAGER, WE HAVE TO FIX THAT AN
IT IS UP TO THE CITY MANAGER TO
KNOW HOW TO FIX IT.
BUT UNTIL THAT IS PROVEN, I
DON'T WANT TO JUDGE THE POLICE
OR THE SVI OR CHIEF MEDICAL
OFFICER OR JUDGE THE DA WHAT I
WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE TO STRESS
THE IMPORTANCE OF COMPLETING THE
REPORT IN AN INDEPENDENT AND
OBJECTIVE WAY AS POSSIBLE TO GE
TO THE BOTTOM OF THE ISSUES.
I KNOW THEY HEARD THE MESSAGE.
I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT
THEY AREN'T WORKING EARNESTLY T
TRY TO BRING THE RESULTS IN.
UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, YOU WILL
HAVE TO TRUST -- YOU DON'T HAVE
TO TRUST BUT I'M ASKING YOU TO
TRUST THE CITY COUNCIL TO START
WITH.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
WE WON'T HIDE ANYTHING.
WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL AND ETHICA
ISSUES ON SERIOUS MATTERS LIKE
THIS.
THE YOUTH CRIME REPORT.
YOU HEAR THE REPORT IS DOWN
BASED ON REPORTS GIVEN.
IT IS DOWN BECAUSE AGGRAVATED
ASSAULTS ARE DOWN.
LOOKING AT VIOLENT CRIME IN THI
COMMUNITY, IT IS ROBBERY,
AGGRAVATED ASSAULT *** AND
HOMICIDE.
HOMICIDE IS A SMALL PORTION OF
THE VIOLATE CRIME NUMBERS.
THEY GET LOTS OF ATTENTION, I
UNDERSTAND WHY.
THAT IS THE ULTIMATE CRIME.
LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON TH
VIOLENT CRIME ISSUES WE HAVE.
AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, DOMESTIC.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HARD
TO DEAL WITH AS A POLICE OFFICE
AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AS
INDIVIDUALS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
GOES ON IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES WE'RE
NOT THERE TO STOP THOSE THINGS.
AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS,
DOMESTICALLY, ABOUT 18% OF
VIOLENT CRIMES IN THIS
COMMUNITY.
WHEN I LOOK AT WITH WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH SOME OF OUR YOUNG
PEOPLE, AND WHERE THEY ARE
INVOLVED IN THAT, 46 OF THE
CRIMES WERE COMMITTED BY TEENS
16 YEARS OR LESS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT GRADUALS AN
HOMICIDES, THE VAST MAJORITY OF
IT IS BLACK-ON-BLACK CRIMES.
I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE WANT T
SAY ABOUT THE POLICE TARGETING
OR DOING WHATEVER.
THEY'RE BLACK-ON-BLACK CRIMES WE
HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO DEAL WITH
THAT.
LOOK AT IT FURTHER, LOOK AT THE
AGE GROUPS.
PARTICULARLY PERSONS 24 YEARS O
YOUNGER.
WE KNOW WHAT THAT CATEGORY IS.
WE HAVE ALL TYPES OF PROGRAMS
WHERE WE TRY TO TARGET 14 TO 24
YEARS OF AGE STUDENTS TO TRY TO
FIND WAYS TO MOVE THEM IN A
DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
BUT IT TAKES TIME.
SO WE ARE NOT UNMINDFUL OF WHERE
THE ISSUES ARE.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE DON'T
HAVE ALL THE SOLUTIONS, THE
POLICE DON'T HAVE ALL SOLUTIONS
IT WILL BE A COMMUNITY
DIFFERENCE.
THE POINT EARLIER, ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED AT THE JOHN AVERY BOYS
AND GIRLS CLUB, PEOPLE ARE
TAKING YOUNG KIDS INTO THEIR
WINGS AND MENTORING THEM.
WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE OF THAT.
DURHAM IS NOT UNIQUE EITHER.
I WAS ON A PROGRAM THIS PAST
SATURDAY W R AL, I HAD NELSON
DOLLAR, THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR
THE HOUSE ON THE PROGRAM.
OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT THINGS
THAT HAPPENED AFTER SANDY HOOK.
ONE OF THE POINTS I TRIED TO
MAKE AND NELSON DOLLAR BACKED IT
UP, A LOT OF THE ISSUES ARE
MENTAL.
WE'RE DOING THINGS IN DURHAM.
THE COMMENTS STEVE MADE ABOUT
HOW MANY TIMES YOU SEE THE
POLICE OFFICER DIRECTING THEM T
MENTAL HEALTH HELP RATHER THAN
PUTTING THEM IN JAIL.
THOSE ARE IMPORTANT.
BUT WE DON'T HEAR ENOUGH ABOUT
THAT.
IT IS HAPPENING IN DURHAM.
I THINK DURHAM IS MAKING GREAT
PROGRESS.
NOT FOR THAT, WE WOULD BE FAR
WORSE OFF.
I WOULD JUST SAY I UNDERSTAND
THE PATIENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE
FAMILIES OF VICTIMS IN THESE
CASES, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD
ALLOW THE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH
AND TRUST THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL
WANTS IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE BUT WE WANT IT DONE
RIGHT.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS, AGAIN, CHIEF, I
APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.
YOU SAY YOU WANT TO BE HERE FOUR
MORE YEARS, THAT'S UP TO THE
CITY MANAGER.
WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT TAKES US.
OK?
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
NEXT IS ITEM 15.
15. CONSOLIDATED ANNEXATION -
THE OAKS AT LYONS FARM
>> SCOTT WEISSMAN FOR THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
NOTIFICATIONS REQUIRED AND
AFFIDAVITS ON FILE FOR ALL OF
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEMS
TONIGHT.
OF THESE ARE THREE SEPARATE
ACTIONS REGARDING TO THE OAKS AT
LION'S FARM DEVELOPMENT.
A UTILITY EXTENSION TO SERVE TH
DEVELOPMENT.
PUBLIC WORKS AND WATER
MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE
PERFORMED A UTILITY IMPACT
ANALYSIS AND DETERMINED THAT
WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY IS
AVAILABLE.
CONTIGUOUS AN ANXIOUSATION IS
SUBMITTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER
FOR THE SITE.
THE BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT
SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS
PERFORMED AN IMPACT ANALYSIS
BASED ON THE MOST INTENSE
PERMITTED USE IN THE INITIAL
ZONING AND PROJECTS THAT
ESTIMATED REVENUES WILL EXCEED
ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES
IMMEDIATELY UPON ANNEXATION.
PURSUANT TO STATE LAW, THE CITY
COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO APPLY A
LAW TO NEW TERRITORY PURCHASE
THERE IS A REQUEST FOR RURAL
RESIDENTIAL FOR THE SUBJECT
PROPERTY TO PERMIT UP TO 17
SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE
COUNCIL APPROVE THE EXTENSION
AGREEMENT VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT
AND THE ZONING AT THE OAKS AT
LIAN'S FARM.
>> YOU HEARD THE STAFF REPORT.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING
OPEN.
WE HAVE TWO PERSONS SIGNED UP TO
SPEAK ON ITEM 15.
GERARD EDENS.
IS THAT CORRECT?
AND JEFF DOSSIER.
LET ME ASK, ARE THERE PERSONS
THAT WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM?
I NEED TO KNOW IN TERMS OF
ALLOCATING AMOUNTS.
YOU DO?
YOUR NAME IS?
OK.
LET'S START OFF WITH 10 MINUTES
ON THIS SIDE, 10 MINUTES ON THE
OTHER SIDE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
JERROD EDENS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST AN
ANNEX.
APPROXIMATELY 9.4 ACRES, WE HAVE
SEEN COUNCIL ANNEX THE PROPERTY
ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
IT IS CONTIGUOUS ON MOST OF THE
SIDES.
WANT TO POINT OUT BRIEFLY WE
ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT THE
ADDITIONAL NUMBER OF
SCHOOLCHILDREN TO BE
GENERATED -- WE DON'T GENERATE
SCHOOLCHILDREN.
BUT THE SCHOOLCHILDREN
GENERATED.
WE LOOK AT THE ADDITIONAL NUMBE
OF KIDS RESULTING FROM A 17 UNIT
DEVELOPMENT COMPARED TO THE NIN
LOTS THAT THE COUNTY ZONING
ALLOWS.
IT IS AN ADDITIONAL THREE
STUDENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT UP
PRIOR TO THE FIRST CO ISSUANCE
ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE MAKE A
CONTRIBUTION OF $1,500, THAT IS
$500 PER CHILD TO THE DURHAM
PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS PART OF OUR
REQUEST.
AGAIN, I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTION IT IS YOU HAVE.
I'LL STOP THERE.
THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
IF NOT, RECOGNIZE JEFF DOZIER.
CAN I SUBM.
>> CAN I SUBMIT THIS TO THE
BOARD FOR VIEWING DURING MY
DISCUSSION?
MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THANK
YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS
PROPOSED ANNEXATION.
MY NAME IS JEFF DOSSIER, I LIVE
AT 106 SILVER PINE COURT IN
LION'S FARM LION'S FARM IS A
SUBDIVISION DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO
THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TO BE
DEVELOPED OR ULTIMATELY TO BE
ANNEXED.
JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
MR. EDENS HAD ACTUALLY A PUBLIC
INFORMATION SESSION, I GUESS, IN
JULY OF THIS YEAR.
AND UPON AS SOMEBODY IN A SINGLE
INCOME HOUSEHOLD, MIDDLE CLASS
FAMILY, I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND
BECAUSE I RECEIVED NOIFRGZ
APPROXIMATELY EIGHT DAYS PRIOR
TO THE MEETING.
SO I TOOK THE E-MAIL ADDRESS
THAT I HAD FOR MR. EDENS REACHE
OUT TO HIM HE WAS NICE ENOUGH T
GIVE ME ABOUT 45 MINUTES OF TIM
ON THE PHONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS
PROPERTY.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT
OPPORTUNITY.
THE REASON I RISE FROM
OPPOSITION IS ON BEHALF OF
MYSELF AND THE OTHER 10
RESIDENTS OF SILVER PINE COURT,
WHICH IS THE STREET THAT WILL
ULTIMATELY BE ADJACENT TO THIS
PROPERTY.
THE LACK OF CONSIDERATION
MA-MR. EDENS GAVE TO US WITH
REGARDS TO THE CONCERNS OF THE
PROPERTY.
THE CONCERNS ARE FAIRLY
STRAIGHTFORWARD.
LOOKING AT THE MAP, THERE IS ONE
ENTRANCE TO THE DEVELOPED
PROPERTY.
THAT IS COMING FROM SILK TREE
LANE.
I LIVE ON SILVER PINE COURT, I
LIVE ADJACENT TO SILVER TREE
LANE.
WE KNEW EVENTUALLY THAT SOME
DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE THERE.
WE WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY.
WE WELCOME THE ADDITION OF NEW
NEIGHBORS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE HALF A DOZEN FAMILIES
WITH KIDS ON THE STREET.
GREAT OPPORTUNITY, GREAT
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT MR. EDENS I
NOT BUILDING AN ENTRANCE THAT
WILL GO OUT TO SCOTT KING ROAD.
OK?
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS ONE
HUNDRED PROGRESS OF THE TRAFFIC
WILL COME THROUGH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWN AS LION'S
GATE FARM.
MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES.
WE KNEW THERE WOULD BE AN
ENTRANCE.
THERE IS A PROPERTY -- THERE IS
A HOUSE ON THE LOT.
THE DRIVEWAY FROM SCOTT KING
ROAD.
THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO
ELIMINATE THAT TO MAXIMIZE THE
PROFIT ON THE LOT.
AGAIN, MR. EDENS WAS REALLY NIC
AND GAVE ME A LOT OF TIME TO
TALK ABOUT THIS.
FOUND OUT FROM HIM, HE USED TO
WORK FOR THE CITY-COUNTY
PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
HE KNOWS ALL THE NUANCES OF WHAT
GOES ON.
THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE IT GAVE ME
INFORMATION THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.
QUITE FRANKLY, RAISING A COUPLE
OF KIDS I DON'T HAVE TIME TO
KNOW A LOT OF THAT STUFF.
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT IF
THERE IS 100% OF THAT TRAFFIC I
GOING DOWN THAT STREET, THE
QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE
RESIDENTS OF THAT SECTION OF TH
NEIGHBORHOOD GOES DRAMATICALLY
DOWNHILL.
WE CAN'T PLAY IN THE STREET
ANYMORE, WE CAN'T HAVE THE
TRAFFIC PURCHASE THE
CONSTRUCTION AND WHILE THEY'RE
BUILDING THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE
WAS NO ASSURANCES THAT THAT
TRAFFIC WOULD GO DIRECTLY ON TO
THE PROPERTY FROM SCOTT KING AS
OPPOSED TO COMING THROUGH
TRAVERSING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
MAYBE IT WILL END UP BEING THAT
WAY THEY WILL USE SCOTT KING
ROAD, BUT THEY HAVEN'T INFORMED
US.
AFTER OUR DISCUSSION, I ASKED
FOR HIS CONSIDERATION AND
CONSULTATION WITH HIS PARTNERS.
THAT WAS JULY 18.
NOW IT IS DECEMBER 16 I'M STILL
WAITING FOR A RESPONSE.
SO -- I THINK THE INTERESTING
THING IS -- ONE MUCH THE
REASONS, HE SAID, TALKING ABOUT
THE PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION.
HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO ME THA
THEY WERE UNDER NO OBLIGATION T
TAKE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY INPUT
FROM THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY INTO
THEIR CONSIDERATION P.M. I WAS
KIND OF FLABBERGASTED QUITE
FRANKLY WHEN I HEARD THAT
DISCUSSION.
I WAS DOWNRIGHT FLABBERGASTED.
IT IS ALL WINDOW DRESSING THEN.
AT A TIME, ON A NATIONAL LEVEL
THIS COMMUNITY THINKS THAT
WASHINGTON DOESN'T HEAR US OR
THEY DO THEIR OWN THING AND WE
ALL LOOK AT POLITICS, NATIONAL,
GOVERNMENT, STATE AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT IN MY EYES WITH A
JADED EYE BECAUSE HE WORKED IN
CITY-COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT,
HE'S GOT THE FRIENDS AND
CONNECTIONS INTERNALLY AND THIS
WILL JUST GLIDE RIGHT IN.
IT IS VERY DISHEARTENING, QUITE
FRANKLY.
I WAS A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE
HOA ASSOCIATION WITH LION'S
FARM.
WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE HOA
BOARD ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE,
HUNTER METZ RIGHT NOW.
WE WANT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
WE WANT NEW NEIGHBORS.
THERE ARE 17 LOTS ON THERE.
IT COULD COST ABOUT 90 TO 100
GRAND IN PROFIT TO TAKE THE
PROPERTY AWAY AND HAVE AN
ENTRANCE.
HE SAID THEY WILL HAVE TO PAVE
TURNING LANE AND THAT WOULD BE
ANOTHER 75 OR 100 GRAND OR
WHATEVER THE COST OF THAT IS.
BUT ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS
PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF
THE FAMILIES THAT ARE ALREADY
THERE.
WE WANT NEIGHBORS WE KNEW THERE
WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT.
WE WELCOME IT.
WE WELCOME IT.
ALL WE'RE ASKING THE DEVELOPER
TO DO IS ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL
ENTRANCE FROM SCOTT KING ROAD SO
100% OF THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T HAVE
TO TRAVERSE OUR LITTLE
CUL-DE-SAC THERE, OUR LITTLE
DEAD-END STREET WHERE WE HAVE
LITTLE KIDS PLAYING.
MR. DAVIS, YOU ARE IN WARD 2,
COME ANY SATURDAY OR SUNDAY WHEN
IT ABOVE 32 DEGREES AND THE
SUN'S OUT, YOU WILL SEE HALF A
DOZEN KIDS PLAYING AROUND.
I'M SURE THERE IS A MUCH MORE
POLISHED WAY TO COME UP AND TALK
ABOUT THE ISSUE ALL I'M ASKING
YOU TO DO IS AT LEAST POSTPONE
THIS OR SEND IT BACK TO THE
CITY-COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT
FOR ANOTHER PROPOSAL TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS DEVELOPER MAYBE
TAKES A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THEIR
PROFIT.
JUST TO GIVE US THE QUALITY OF
LIFE WE DESERVE.
>> DOES THE PROPONENTS HAVE
COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE?
DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS YOU WANT T
MAKE?
HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE HAVE.
>> NINE MINUTES.
>> YOU'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS.
>> ONE, I NEVER WORKED WITH THE
CITY-COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE DESIGN THAT IS PRESENTED
BEFORE YOU IS A CONSERVATION
SUBDIVISION, 50% OPEN SPACE
DEVELOPMENT, 9.4 ACRES, WE'LL
HAVE 4.7 ACRES OF PERMANENT TRE
COVERAGE.
AND MUCH OF THAT BUFFERING IS
BEHIND THE LOTS THAT ARE ON THE
STREETS THAT THIS GENTLEMEN
LIVES ON.
THERE WAS DEFINITELY
CONSIDERATION TAKEN INTO THE
NEIGHBORS WITH OUR DESIGN
BECAUSE WE PUT THE PROPOSED
HOMES AS FAR AWAY FROM THE
ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE CAN
THEY'RE UP AGAINST THE STREAM
BOUNDARY.
THE DEAD END STREET -- I
UNDERSTAND CHILDREN PLAY IN THE
STREETS.
I HAVE TWO YOUNG KIDS TOO.
MY KIDS PLAY IN THE YARD THEY
DON'T PLAY IN THE STREET.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IS A
CONVENIENCE THAT MAY BE FOREGON
OR SACRIFICED A GOOD BIT BY THI
CONNECTION.
BUT THE CONNECTION WILL BE MADE
REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS
ON-SITE.
NCDOT DOES NOT LIKE MULTIPLE
CONNECTIONS TO STATE MAINTAINED
ROADS.
ADDITIONAL CONNECTION TO THE
ROAD FOR 17 LOTS WHEN THERE IS
STUB TO THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
THE AREA WHERE THE CONNECTION
WOULD GO TO SCOTT KING ROAD IS
WHERE THE TREE COVERAGE AREA CA
LOCATED WITH THE DESIGN.
IN MY OBVIOUSLY BIASED OPINION I
THINK 4.7 ACRES OF TREE COVERAGE
OUT OF 9.4 ACRES OF 17 LOTS IS
MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
>> THANK YOU.
ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK
ON THIS ITEM?
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNCILMAN BROWN?
>> I WAS GOING TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING GO AHEAD.
I WANT TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK
ON THIS ITEM?
YOU DO?
HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE HAVE.
>> HE HAS THREE MINUTES.
>> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I WOULD OFFER I HAVE NO AGENDA.
ALL I'M REITERATING IS THE
CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THIS
GENTLEMAN ON THE PHONE.
I ASSUME THE COMMENTARY HE
PROVIDED TO ME WAS ACCURATE.
I HAVE NO NEED TO FALSIFY MY
INFORMATION AND LIE TO ANY OF
YOU.
AGAIN, WE KNEW THERE WAS GOING
TO BE AN ENTRANCE TO OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE WELCOME THAT.
IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MY KIDS
TO MEET OTHER KIDS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE KNEW IT WOULD MEET IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S FINE.
WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO REQUES
THAT THE DEVELOPER HAVE A SECOND
ENTRANCE ON THE MAIN ROAD LIKE
EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT HAS IN
THIS VICINITY BY AREA OF WARD
TWO.
THAT'S ALL.
IT WILL COST HIM ONE HOUSE ON
THE LOT.
ONE HOUSE.
THANK YOU.
>> COULD I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION
YOU HAD NO REASON TO FALSIFY.
WHO TOLD YOU HE WORKED WITH THE
CITY.
>> I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH
THIS GENTLEMEN ON THE PHONE IN
JULY BECAUSE I WAS UNABLE TO
ATTEND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION
MEETING.
I TRAVEL I COVER THE SOUTHEAST
IN MY BUSINESS.
I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND, WHICH I
WHY I REACHED OUT TO HIM VIA
E-MAIL ON THE LETTER THAT WAS
SENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH
EVERY --
>> DID HE TELL YOU HE WORKED FO
THE CITY.
>> YES.
SAID HE HAD WORKED WITH THE CITY
AND COUNTY AND PLANNING
DEPARTMENT.
>> WORKED WITH THE CITY.
>> NOT FOR THE CITY.
>> WORKED WITH.
>> I UNDERSTAND.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A
CONVERSATION FROM MIDDLE OF JUL
OF THIS YEAR.
>> WORK WITH AND WORK FOR IS A
DIFFERENCE FOR ME.
>> ANYONE ELSE THAT WORKS TO
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
IF NOT, I WILL DECLARE THE
PUBLIC HEARING TO BE CLOSED.
THE MATTER IS BACK BEFORE THE
COUNCIL, RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN
BROWN.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF.
SCOTT KING ROAD, THAT IS A STAT
MAINTAINED ROAD?
YES, THAT IS A STATE MAINTAINED
ROAD.
>> THE NCDOT HAS TO APPROVE
ACCESS TO THE ROAD.
>> THE NCDOT HAS TO APPROVE
ACCESS TO SCOTT KING ROAD.
>> WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION, IN
TWO FACTORS.
>> I WILL LET SOMEONE FROM CITY
TRANSPORTATION ANSWER THAT ONE.
>> GOOD EVENING, ASSISTANT
DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION.
I DON'T RECALL IT SPECIFICALLY
COMING UP DURING THE PRELIMINAR
REVIEW OF THE CASE.
MY SUSPICION IS IF DOT WERE TO
ALLOW THE CONNECTION THEY WERE
REQUIRE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE.
IT WOULD NOT BE JUST THE
CONNECTION OR THE ADDITIONAL
STREET CONNECTION BUT ALSO THE
ASSOCIATED COST WITH THE
WIDENING FOR A LEFT TURN LANE.
ALSO RECALL THERE ARE SECTIONS
ALONG SCOTT KING ROAD THAT HAVE
A LOT OF HILLS WE CALL THEM
VERTICAL CURVES AND REQUIRE MORE
SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS TO
ENSURE PROPER SIGHT DISTANCE FO
ANY INTERSECTION EXTENDED OUT O
THE SOUTH.
I BEING NOT SAY D.O.T. WOULD NOT
ALLOW IT, BUT I'M SURE THE COST
WILL GO BEYOND SIMPLY TYING A
STREET IN.
IT WILL GO BEYOND, TO MAKE
APPROPRIATE SITE PROVISIONS AND
LEFT-HAND TURN LANE.
>> WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US IT
WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR --
>> IT --
>> WOULD IT BE COSTLY?
>> THERE WILL BE COST ASSOCIATE
WITH IT.
IT WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO
THEIR CONCURRENCE TO ALLOW IT T
HAPPEN.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS
IMPOSSIBLE, EITHER.
>> THANK YOU.
>> RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN DAVIS.
>> THE PROCESS OF GOING INTO TH
NEIGHBORHOODS, HAVING DIALOGUE
WITH COMMUNITY FOLKS, THE
STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT THERE IS
NOTHING BINDING ABOUT THAT.
IS THERE ANYTHING -- CAN YOU
TELL ME WHAT THE PROTOCOLS ARE
FOR THE DISCUSSION, ANYTHING
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME FROM
THE COMMUNITY.
>> THERE ARE CASES THAT REQUIRE
THE DEVELOPER APPLICANT TO HOLD
THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BEFORE
SUBMITTING THE CASE.
TYPICALLY LARGER REZONINGS OR
ANY AMENDMENT TO COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN.
THIS IS -- AT THIS POINT, THIS
IS ONLY ANNABEXATION REQUEST,
WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WHAT THE
APPLICANT DID WAS PURELY ON HIS
OWN.
PURELY ON HIS OWN.
>> OK.
THANK YOU.
>> BECAUSE IT IS A SUBDIVISION,
DOES IT NOT HAVE TO HAVE A
PUBLIC MEETING?
>> STEVE MET LIN WITH THE DURHA
CITY-COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT
CONSERVATIONS ARE AN
ADMINISTRATIVE EVALUATION AND
APPROVAL THAT MEANS IT WOULD BE
REVIEWED AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND
FOUND TO BE TECHNICALLY
COMPLIANT AND APPROVED AT THAT
LEVEL.
>> OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON
THIS ITEM?
IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON
THE ITEM.
>> UM ... I MOVE THE STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION.
OR DO I HAVE TO BE MORE
EXPLICIT, MR. ATTORNEY?
DO I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE?
>> TYPICALLY, YOU WOULD MOVE TH
ITEM THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU.
>> OK.
I MOVE THE ITEM.
>> PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND.
>> IT WOULD INCLUDE THE
APPLICATION.
>> THAT IS PART OF HER MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
HEARING NONE, MADAM CLERK, OPEN
THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> THANK YOU.
6. CONSOLIDATED ANNEXATION -
RICHMOND PARK
>> THIS ITEM IS THREE SEPARATE
ACTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
RELATED TO THE RICHMOND PARK
DEVELOPMENT.
A UTILITY EXTENSION AGREEMENT
REQUESTED TO SERVE THE
DEVELOPMENT.
THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS
PERFORMED A UTILITY IMPACT
PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS AND
DETERMINED THAT ADEQUATE SEWER
CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE.
A VOLUNTARY APPLICATION HAS BEEN
SUBMITTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER
FOR THE SITE.
THE BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES
DEPARTMENT HAS PERFORMED A
FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS AND
DETERMINE REVENUES WILL EXCEED
EXPENDITURES UPON ANNEXATION.
THE STATE LAW IS REQUIRED TO
APPLY TO THE NEWLIANEKED PROPER
THE INITIAL ZONES OF RS 10 FOR
THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY TO PERMIT UP TO
16 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE
COUNCIL APPROVE THE EXTENSION
AGREEMENT, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION
AND INITIAL ZONING FOR THIS
SITE.
>> AGAIN, THIS IS THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
I WILL DECLARE THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN.
I WOULD ASK FIRST, ARE THERE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF MEMBERS
OF COUNCIL?
IF NOT, I HAVE ONE PERSON THAT
HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
MICHAEL BIRCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS
TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
HAVE YOU SIGNED UP?
HAD YOU SIGNED UP?
>> OK.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, GO TO THE
PODIUM.
MIGHT I ASK, ARE YOU IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE].
>> LET'S START WITH THE
PROPONENTS.
AGAIN, TAKE 10 MINUTES.
AND OPPONENTS HAVE 10 MINUTES O
THE ITEM.
>> YES, SIR, MR. MAYOR.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS
MICHAEL BIRCH WITH MORNING STAR
LAW GROUP IN DURHAM.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
APPLICANT GREEN OLIVE
INVESTMENTS LLC.
ALSO WITH ME TONIGHT IS RANDY
MILLER OF THOMPSON AND
ASSOCIATES, THE PROJECT
ENGINEER.
IF ARE THERE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS
I WILL TRY TO DEFER THOSE TO TH
EXPERT.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND
SCOTT IN PARTICULAR FOR GETTING
US TO THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS
THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY TH
COUNTY IN 2009.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A 16-LOT
SUBDIVISION AT THAT TIME IN THE
RS-10 DISTRICT.
WHAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD
TODAY AS A CONDITION OF THE PLAN
TO REQUIRE ANNEXATION INTO THE
CITY.
THAT IS THE PROCESS WE ARE GOING
THROUGH NOW, ANNEXATION, THE
INITIAL ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT
PLAN APPROVAL.
THIS PLAN IS ONE LOT LESS.
IT IS 16 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
THE PLAN IS ATTENDING FOR ALL OF
THE SINGLE-FAMILY ELEMENTS
AGREED TO AND APPROVED IN 2009.
THAT INCLUDES TRANSITION AREAS,
OPEN SPACE AREAS, SETBACKS ALL
OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING
CARRIED FORWARD, EXACTLY AS THEY
WERE IN THE 2009 PLAN.
STAFF NOTED THIS IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT WITH FOLKS
THAT LIVE IN THE NEARBY AREA, I
WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE TOPIC, THE
STORM WATER IMPACT.
THIS SITE, IT IS LIMITED TO 24%
TO INCLUDE THE NEW ROAD THAT
WILL BE KRUSHTHED AS WELL AS AL
THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO RESTRICTED TO 24% IMPERVIOUS.
CONTROLLING FOR THE ONE, TWO,
AND 10-YEAR STORM EVENTS.
THROUGH ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS OF
STAFF THROUGH THIS PROCESS ALSO
DID AN ANALYSIS ON THE 100-YEAR
STORM EVENT.
WE'RE REDUCING THE
POSTDEVELOPMENT STORM RATES
VOLUMES ARE ALL LESS
POSTDEVELOPMENT THAN
PREDEVELOPMENT FOR ALL THE STOR
EVENTS INCLUDING 100-YEAR STORM.
CURRENTLY, THERE IS A DRAINAGE
DITCH THAT ALL THE WATER FROM
THE WHOLE SITE INCLUDING A
PORTION OF GRAND DALE ROAD
DRAINS ACROSS THE SITE, COMING
INTO THE DITCH AND POINT
DISCHARGES INTO A STREAM BEHIND
AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER'S
RESIDENTS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DIVERTING
ALL OF OUR SITE AND A PORTION OF
THE DRAINAGE OFF GRAND DALE ROA
INTO OUR STORM DETENTION
FACILITY PUTTING IT INTO A WET
POND, DETAINING IT FOR TWO OR
THREE DAYS.
INFILTRATION WILL OCCUR.
IT WILL BE SENT OVER A LOAD
SPREADER.
SOME INFILTRATION WILL OCCUR
THERE.
IT WILL BE SENT ACROSS A 50-FOOT
BUFFER ADJACENT TO THE STREAM.
WE WILL REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
VOLUME THAT WILL RUN INTO THE
STREAM.
PUTTING IT IN A LONGER AREA,
MUCH LONGER PERIOD OF TIME AT A
MUCH SCHMOER RATE, REDUCING THE
STORM WATER IMPACTS TO OUR
ADJACENT NEIGHBOR AND
DOWNSTREAM.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IS
SOMETHING WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
IN THIS PROCESS IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE CITY'S STORM WATER AND
ENGINEERING AS WELL.
IF THERE ARE TECHNICAL QUESTION
I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE
PROJECT ENGINEER HERE ANSWER
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> WE HAVE ONE, PERSON IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM.
RECOGNIZE MR. ROBERT STEWART.
ROBERT STEWART?
DO I HAVE THE WRONG NAME?
ROBERT ... OH, OK.
RICHARD PARKS AND MATTHEW O.
WILSON.
IS THAT CORRECT?
WILLIS.
OK.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE].
>> LET ME ASK IF THERE IS ANYON
ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION?
IN OPPOSITION.
ALL RIGHT.
THE OPPOSITION HAS 10 MINUTES,
NOT 10 MINUTES EACH, BUT A TOTAL
OF 10.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MR. WILSON.
>> MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL, THANK YOU, I HAVE NEVE
BEEN HERE BEFORE, I'M NOT QUITE
SURE OR FAMILIAR WITH YOUR
PROCEDURES I WILL DO THE BEST I
CAN.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVEN'T BEEN
HERE EITHER THE WAY I'M SCREWING
THESE THINGS UP.
GO AHEAD.
>> WELL, I THINK YOU ARE
PROBABLY MORE FAMILIAR WITH THIS
THAN I AM WILL.
I'M THE GENTLEMAN THAT MR. BIRCH
REFERRED TO AS THE CONCURRENT
HOMEOWNER.
WE HAVE SPOKEN AND IT HAS BEEN
AN AMICABLE SET OF
CONVERSATIONS.
I ASSUME ALL OF YOU HAVE THE
SITE PLAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE?
I'M 52 B WILLIS.
D FOR DAVID.
THE DITCH MR. BIRCH REFERS
WHICH, WHICH I WALK THROUGH RUN
CONTIGUOUSLY.
IT IS NATURALLY MADE BY NATURE
DRAINAGE DITCH THAT FLOWS
THROUGH THE ENTIRE PIECE OF
PROPERTY THEY WILL DEVELOP.
IT IS NOT A STREAM BECAUSE IT I
NOT CONTINUOUSLY FLOWING.
IT IS ONLY A DRAINAGE DITCH WHE
IT RAINS.
I ASSUME MOST OF US PROBABLY
REMEMBER THIS PAST APRIL WHERE
WE HAD 24 OR 25 DAYS OF
CONTINUOUS RAIN OUT OF 30 DAYS
IN THE MONTH?
THAT STREAM, THAT DITCH BECAME
RIVER.
IT FLOWED SO MUCH, IT ACTUALLY
ENCROACHED UP INTO MY BACKYARD
AND CAUSED ME A GREAT DEAL OF
ALARM SHOULD WE SAY.
A CALLED HAND DALE HOMEOWNER
ASSOCIATION BECAUSE AT THE SAME
TIME MR. BIRCH AND HIS PEOPLE
SAID THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FO
THE DRAINAGE, IT IS A DRAINAGE
CULVERT THAT EMPTIES OUT INTO
THE SAME AREA WHERE THE DITCH
EMPTIES OUT INTO AND IT IS
48 INCHES.
THAT LOOKS LIKE A BROKEN WATER
MAIN ON SOME OF THE DAYS WHERE
IT WAS RAINING.
I UNDERSTAND THE RULES THAT HE
REFERRED TO, THE ONE OR FIVE OR
10 YEAR EVENT.
THEY'RE ONLY REFERRING TO ONE
DAY.
AND NATURE DOESN'T WORK THAT
WAY.
NATURE WORKS IN A PERIOD OF MAN
TIED
DAYS.
AS I SAID, IF WE LOOK AT LAST
APRIL, IT RAINED OVER A PERIOD
OF A SERIES OF DAYS, WEEKS IN
APRIL.
HIS STORM ANALYSIS ONLY TAKES
INTO ACCOUNT ONE DAY, BECAUSE HE
SAID THAT IS ALL HE IS REQUIRED
TO DO.
WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A REPEA
OF WHAT HAPPENED THIS LAST
APRIL, WHICH WE WILL HAVE?
DOES HE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT?
I ASKED HIM, HE SAID NO.
SO I DON'T THINK SAYING A
ONE-DAY 100-YEAR EVENT IS
REALITY BASED.
I THINK IT IS JUST A MATTER OF
WHATEVER THE RULES ARE.
AND THAT THAT IS WHAT HE'S
USING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IS ALLOWED.
WE ALL KNOW THIS PAST APRIL IT
RAINED FOR 24, 25 DAYS.
AN AWFUL LOT MORE WATER THAN
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WENT
THROUGH THAT NATURALLY OCCURRING
DRAINAGE DITCH.
I DON'T THINK HE'S PLANNED FOR
THAT.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
VERY TOP OF THE WHERE IT SAYS
CONDITIONAL USE.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM A
PHONE CALL WITH MR. BIRCH THIS
MORNING AND THEN SEVERAL DAYS
AGO, THAT THERE WOULD BE A TREE
BUFFER ZONE WHERE THESE OTHER
LOTS ARE AND NOW I'M TOLD THIS
MORNING THAT THERE ISN'T GOING
TO BE A TREE BUFFER ZONE.
I THINK ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WIL
PROBABLY REFER TO THIS.
THIS AREA IS NOW, IN EFFECT
BECOMING THE BACKYARDS OF THE
HOUSES THAT HE'S GOING TO
DEVELOP.
AND ALL THE TREES THAT ARE IN
THERE COULD BE CUT DOWN BY THE
HOMEOWNERS OR THE DEVELOPERS AND
NO TREES LEFT.
THERE WOULD BE A FENCE BASICALLY
SEPARATING THE PROPERTY FROM TH
EXISTING NEIGHBORS AND THEN
THERE WOULD BE THE OTHER
NEIGHBORS AND NO TREES.
I REFER TO THAT FOR TWO REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, YOU TAKE HOUSING
THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN A CERTAIN
WAYS THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF
TREES AROUND GRAND DALE AND NOW
A LOT OF THE TREES WOULD BE
REMOVED WHICH WILL OPEN UP A LO
OF MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARDS
DIRECTLY NOW INTO THE NEW
NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD.
EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO HAVE A
PLACE TO LIVE.
SO THAT REMOVES THE TREES, BUT
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, TREES
ABSORB WATER.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN
ALL OF THESE TREES.
WHAT IS NOW A HEAVILY WOODED
AREA, I'M NOT A HYDROLOGIST.
IT SEEMS TO ME AS AN AVERAGE
PERSON, IF YOU CUT DOWN MOST OF
THE TREES WHERE ALL THE WATER I
FLYING, ISN'T THAT GOING TO
INCREASE THE RATE OF WATER FLOW
DESPITE THE FACT THAT OUR
NEIGHBORS WILL BE STARING INTO
THEIR NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARDS WITH
NO TREES BLOCKING THEM, NO
BUFFER?
CAN'T THERE BE A WAY TO LEAVE
SOME OF THE TREES TO SERVE
MULTIPLE PURPOSES OF SCREENING
HOUSES, NEIGHBOR HOUSES FROM
OTHER HOUSES AND ALSO SLOWING
THE RATE OF WATER THAT WOULD
FLOW OUT?
SEEMS TO ME, THERE SHOULD BE A
WAY TO DO THAT.
ON THAT MATTER, LAST BUT NOT
LEAST, MR. BIRCH SAID THEY WILL
PUT A WATER POND, A RETENTION
POND, WHICH IS AS YOU CAN SEE O
THIS MAP, LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT
TO ME.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT
TAKES INSECTS 24 TO 48 HOURS TO
BREED.
MR. BIRCH TOLD ME THE RETENTION
POND WOULD LET THE WATER OUT
OVER A PERIOD OF THREE DAYS.
SEEMS TO ME THERE WILL BE AN
AWFUL LOT MORE INSECT LIFE RIGH
WHERE I LIVE AND OTHER FAMILIES
LIVE AND CHILDREN LIVE.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO PUT A SPRAY
DEVICE OR SOMETHING INTO THE
POND TO ALLEVIATE THAT.
NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO A
POND WITH STAGNANT WATER WITH
BUGS BREEDING, THAT WILL CREATE
A PUBLIC HUSBAND HAZARD.
I HAVE SEVERAL REASONS TO OBJEC
TO THIS.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO MORE HOUSING
BEING PUT IN.
DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND ME.
EVERYONE NEEDS A PLACE TO LIVE.
EVERYBODY IS CERTAINLY ENTITLED
TO MOVE INTO A NICE, NEW HOUSE.
IT SEEMS TO ME, THERE SHOULD BE
WAYS TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY TO
TAKE INTO CONCERNS THE EXISTING
PROPERTY THAT IS ALREADY THERE.
THAT'S MY POINT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> AGAIN, WE HAD 10 MINUTES IN
OPPOSITION, MR. CHENEY.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES LEFT ON
THIS TIME.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHARLES CHENEY, H STONE HOUSE
COURT, I LIVE IN ONE OF THE
MIDDLE LOTS WHICH WOULD BE NORT
OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AND MR. WILLIS IN POINT NUMBER
TWO ADDRESSED MY CONCERN, WAS
WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT THE
PROPERTY, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR
AGO JUST IN GENERAL
CONVERSATION, MY UNDERSTANDING
THERE WOULD BE A BUFFER.
THE SETBACK OF THE BUFFER TO
SUPPLY TREES WHICH IS CONSISTENT
AS MR. WILLIS SAID WITH THE
OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL PICTURE OF
THE SITUATION.
WHEN I GOT THIS MAP IN THE MAIL
I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NO
BUFFER IDENTIFIED IN THE TREES
AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE A 40-FOOT
BUFFER.
MY QUESTION IS WHY IS THIS
SITUATION?
COULDN'T IT BE SPLIT 20, 20 TO
PROVIDE THAT BUFFER.
MR. WILLIS DISCUSSED THAT.
IS IT A CONCERN AS A PROPERTY
OWNER LOOKING OUT OF MY DECK
STRAIGHT INTO THE YARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
I WOULD ASK THE PROPONENT IF YO
HAVE COMMENTS?
RELATIVE TO WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD
DO YOU HAVE HIS TIME?
>> SIX MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON THE TWO
POINTS, BOTH THE STORM WATER AN
THE TREE BUFFER TRANSITION
ISSUE.
FIRST, WITH REGARD TO THE STORM
WATER.
THE STREAM OR THE DITCH THAT IS
ON-SITE, THE PORTION OF THAT
STREAM THAT IS A BUFFERED STREA
IS BEING BUFFERED PURSUANT TO
THE REGULATIONS, 50-FOOT ON EAC
SIDE.
TOP OF BANK WITH AN ADDITIONAL
10-FOOT NO BUILD OUTSIDE OF
THAT.
AGAIN, THE LOT WE REMOVED FROM
THE 2009 PLAN TO THIS PLAN WAS
ONE OF THE LOTS THAT HAD A
PORTION OF THE BUFFER AREA
WITHIN IT.
WE TOOK THAT AWAY, SO WE DON'T
HAVE ANY BUILDABLE LOTS EVEN
NEAR THAT -- EXCUSE ME.
EVEN NEAR THAT BUFFERED STREAM.
THE CLOSEST THING TO THE
BUFFERED STREAM IS THE STORM
WATER DETENTION FACILITY, AGAIN,
WHICH IS DIFFUSING THE FLOW, AN
NOT POINT DISCHARGING AS IT HAS
BEEN IN THE UNDEVELOPED STATE.
I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS
DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE NO IMPACT
ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY FROM A
STORM WATER STANDPOINT FOR UP TO
THE 100-YEAR STORM.
THAT IS CERTAINLY ABOVE AND
BEYOND WHAT THE 2009 PLAN DID.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONLY UP TO
THE 10-YEAR STORM.
POSSIBLY THE 20-YEAR STORM.
THIS GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT
UP TO THE 100-YEAR STORM.
WITH REGARD TO THE LOCATION OF
THE STORM WATER DETENTION
FACILITY, THERE IS REALLY ONE
PLACE TO PUT IT, THAT IS THE LO
POINT OF THE SITE.
THAT POINT IS LOCATED
APPROXIMATELY 250 TO 300 FEET
FROM OUR ADJACENT PROPERTY,
PROPERTY LINE.
THERE IS ANOTHER AT LEAST
50 FEET ON HIS SIDE BEFORE HE
GETS TO THE RESIDENCE.
AT LEAST 300 TO 350 FEET FROM A
DISTANCE STANDPOINT.
THE TWO TO THREE DAY DRAINAGE
PERIOD IS FOR THE LARGE STORM
EVENTS.
THE ABILITY TO GET AND CAPTURE
THE RAIN FROM THAT TIME PERIOD
TO DRAIN DOWN SO REALLY FOR THE
LARGER STORM EVENTS.
IN ORDER TO DETAIN FOR THE
100-YEAR STORM, THE WE HAVE TO
SIZE THE POND APPROPRIATELY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE
SIZE AND LOCATION OF THE POND.
SO IN ORDER TO DO ALL OF THE
DOWNSTREAM PROTECTION, DETENTION
THAT WE'RE DOING, IT'S GOT TO B
SIZED AND GOT TO HAVE THE
DRAINAGE PERIOD TO ACCOMMODATE
THAT WATER.
WITH REGARD TO THE TREE BUFFER
ISSUE, ALONG THE NORTHERN
PROPERTY LINE, AGAIN, JUST GOIN
BACK TO THE 2009 PLAN AND THE
COMMITTED ELEMENTS, THERE WAS
NEVER A TREE BUFFER ALONG OUR
NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
THOSE TREE BUFFERS ARE DRIVEN B
ZONING.
AND THE ZONING OF ADJACENT
PROPERTIES.
SO WE DO HAVE A 40-FOOT TREE
BUFFER AREA ALONG THE SOUTHERN
PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE WE'RE
TRANSITIONING TO AN AREA ZONED
LESS INTENSE.
THE SUBDIVISION TO OUR DIRECT
NORTH IS OF A SIMILAR INTENSITY
AS OURS.
SO WE DO NOT HAVE THE TREE
BUFFER ON OUR SIDE.
HOWEVER, WHEN THEIR DEVELOPMENT
CAME THROUGH, I BELIEVE IN 2004
OR 2005, THIS PROPERTY THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS
ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
THEY HAVE A 50-FOOT WIDE TREE
BUFFER AREA ALONG THE BACK OF
THEIR PROPERTY.
NOTHING WE'RE DOING WILL IMPACT
THE 50-FOOT BUFFER.
WITHIN THAT, THEY HAVE THE
DRAINAGE AREA TO PREVENT THE
LOCATION OF TREES THERE, THERE
IS 15 FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF TH
DRAINAGE BUFFER, ALL ON PROPERTY
THAT THEY CONTROL THAT IS TREE
SAVED AREA AND IT IS ABLE TO
SERVE AS A BUFFER.
WITH THE 50-FOOT AND 20-FOOT
BUILDING SETBACK, A MINIMUM OF
75 FEET BETWEEN STRUCTURES.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THE
TRANSITION THAT WE'RE PROVIDING
TO OUR NORTH FROM OUR SETBACK
STANDPOINT IS THE SAME
TRANSITIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED
WITHIN THAT IS SUBDIVISION WHEN
HOUSES WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION
BACK UP TO EACH OTHER.
THEY PROVIDE THE SAME -- I
BELIEVE IT IS ACTUALLY A 20-FOO
SETBACK MINIMUM.
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT
POTENTIALLY WHEN THEY BOUGHT
THIS PROPERTY THAT IT WASN'T
DEVELOPED.
BUT THIS PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS
BEEN PLANNED TO DEVELOP.
THERE HAS CERTAINLY BEEN AN
IMPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON
THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2009.
AND I WANT TO REITERATE THAT
PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE ANY
ADDITIONAL BUFFER AREA ON THIS
PROPERTY.
SO WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
IF NOT --
>> AM I ALLOWED ANY MORE TIME?
>> NO, WE HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON
THAT HAD SIGNED UP, AND HE'S
GOT -- HOW MUCH TIME?
>> TWO MINUTES.
>> TWO MINUTES.
BILL HUNT.
IS BILL HUNT PRESENT?
MR. HUNT, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
>> OK.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
SPEAK MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE
COUNCIL, I WANT TO SUPPORT THE
GENTLEMEN HERE AND WHAT HE HAD
TO SAY I SORT OF LIVE DOWNSTREA
FROM WHERE THIS IS TAKING PLACE
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS
WITH THESE EVENTS WITH FLOODING
MY HOUSE IS CLOSER TO THE
AROUNDY CORE OF ENGINEERS AND
THE HOUSE TENDS TO BACK UP.
WITH THE PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH
THE WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT O
THE STATE, MY SON WORKS WITH
NORTH CAROLINA STATE, CONSULTS
WITH THE ISSUES, WHEN YOU REMOV
THE TREES YOU ARE BASICALLY
CREATING MORE OF A DRAINAGE
PROBLEM, IT WILL BE MORE WATER
FLOWING.
I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE
GENTLEMEN'S COMMENT ABOUT RAIN
OCCURRING ON A SPECIFIC DAY.
HE'S CORRECT.
THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A ONE IN
100 YEAR EVENT, YOU CAN GET
CLUSTERS.
HE GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE
CLUSTERS THAT WERE OCCURRING IN
APRIL.
THERE ARE EQUIVALENCIES.
YOU CAN GET MULTIPLE DAYS WHERE
A LOT OF RAINFALL IS COMPARABLE
TO ONE IN A HAND YEAR FLOOD AND
THE REGULATIONS ARE REALLY NOT
DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THOSE
CONSIDERATIONS.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT I
HAVE TO SAY.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU USE
YOUR COMBINED WISDOM TO CONSIDER
THESE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO
APPROVING THIS KIND OF ZONING
CHANGE WHEN IT CAN IMPACT THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
AS I SAID, I LIVE DOWNSTREAM
FROM THIS, AND REALLY DON'T WAN
TO SEE A WHOLE LOT MORE WATER
FALLING INTO MY BACKYARD.
THANK YOU.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
I NEED TO MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING
AT THE CORRECT MAP.
THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR
TABLET CORRECT?
>> THE ONE IN YOUR PACKET IS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN WHICH IS WHAT WOULD BE
APPROVED IN THEY ADOPT THE
INITIAL ZONING.
WHAT THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE
ARE REFERRING TO THE SITE PLAN
UNDER REVIEW AS A DIFFERENT
PROCESS, WHICH IS NOT IN YOUR
PACKET.
WE'RE BEING ASKED TO ANNEX THE
PROPERTY AND IF WE ANNEX THE
PROPERTY THERE IS INITIAL ZONIN
TO COLLECT ON IT.
WE HAVE UP TO 60 DAYS ONCE
ANNEXED IF WE ANNEX IT THE 31ST
OF DECEMBER, WE HAVE UP TO 60
DAYS TO PUT THE ZONING ON THE
PROPERTY.
AS I UNDERSTAND, WHAT THE STAFF
HAS, YOU'LL WANT US, IF WE ANNE
IT TO ACCEPT THIS ZONING WHICH
IS R 10 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN; IS THAT RIGHT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> OK.
AND THEN THE DETAILS THAT THE
GENTLEMEN WAS SPEAKING ABOUT,
THAT COMES LATER WHEN THE SITE
PLAN IS ACTUALLY --
>> YES, SIR, A LOT OF THE
DETAILS WOULD BE WORKED OUT
UNDER THE SITE PLAN REVIEW
PROCESS.
THAT WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE
PROCESS AND NOT REQUIRE ANY
ADDITIONAL CITY COUNCIL HEARING.
>> CAN YOU COMMENT ON SOME OF
THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED BY THE OPPONENTS RELATIV
TO THE TREE LINE?
I UNDERSTAND THE WATER ISSUE,
THE SIZE OF THE POND, ET CETERA
WHEN THIS PLAN WAS APPROVED IT
DID SHOW THE OFFERS PER THE
ORDINANCE.
THE LOTS SOUTH AND EAST ARE
RURAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH THERE
IS A REQUIRED DISTRICT BETWEEN
THE R S 10 AND RR ZONING
DISTRICT.
THE GRAND DALE LOTS ARE PDR.
THERE IS NO REQUIRED BUFFER
BETWEEN RS 10 AND THOSE LOTS
BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMILAR USE AND
LOTS SIZE.
WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DOING IS
FULLY COMPLIANT WITH OUR
ORDINANCE.
THERE ARE NO BUFFERS SHOWN TO
THE WEST AND NORTH.
>> SO IF THE DEVELOPER OR
APPLICANT WERE TO RECEIVE THIS R
10 D ZONING THAT WE HAVE BEFORE
US AND THEN WHEN YOU WENT INTO
THE DETAILS OF HOW HE'S GOING TO
LAY OUT THE LOTS, HE COULD
REMOVE ALL THE TREES THAT THE
OPPONENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT?
>> HE COULD LEGALLY DO THAT.
HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE 20% TREE
PRESERVATION, BUT NOT EXACTLY
CLEAR WHERE YOU DO THAT.
>> DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE
ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT?
IS IT YOUR INTENT TO REMOVE THE
TREES THAT THEY HAVE CONCERN
ABOUT.
>> THE PLAN -- YOU MAY HAVE THE
BUILDING ENVELOPE THERE.
THAT IS AN ALLOWABLE BUILDING
ENVELOPE.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN
INTENTION TO GO BEYOND THAT.
WHAT IS BEYOND THAT BUILDING
ENVELOPE IS SOMEONE'S BACKYARD.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT
VERSION OF THE PLAN YOU'RE
LOOKING AT, WHETHER THERE IS THE
ALLOWABLE BUILDING ENVELOPE
THERE.
OK.
THE 25-FOOT BUILDING SETBACK IS
NOT NEEDED AT ALL FOR BUILDING
PLACEMENT OR ANYTHING.
I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT
RUNOFF.
I HOPE THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT,
WHAT THE DEVELOPER DOES IS TRY
TO BE AS CONSTRUCTIVE AS
POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZING EXCESS
RUNOFF FROM THEIR PROPERTY ON T
OTHERS.
IF THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT
WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, AS
PERTAINS WITH THE TREES, I FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
THAT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE
AND I'M TRYING UNDERSTAND FROM
THE STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY
COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THAT?
>> STEVE?
COULD YOU ANSWER THAT, PLEASE.
>> WE'LL TAKE CARE OF, THAT
THANK YOU.
STEVE, MY CONCERN IS THAT I KNOW
THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE
WITH REGARD TO THE FINAL LAYOUT
OF THE LOTS WILL BE.
MY CONCERN IS, IS THERE ANY WAY
WE HAVE AN ASSURANCE THAT WE
MINIMIZE THE REMOVAL OF TREES A
HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY THE
OPPONENTS OF THIS IN THIS
PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT?
WE DON'T HAVE THIS BUILDING
ENVELOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER
TALKED ABOUT, SO I DON'T REALLY
KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
>> ACTUALLY, YOU DO.
>> WHERE IS IT?
>> PAGE 2 OF THE DEVELOPMENT
PLAN.
>> TELL ME WHICH ONE IT IS.
>> IT WOULD BE SHEET 2 OF THE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SHOWS BUILDIN
ENVELOPES.
SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKAGE.
I'M SORRY.
I HAVE A PAPER COPY.
IT IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF
COUNCIL AND THE APPLICANT WERE
AMENABLE.
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY, BECAUSE
THERE IS DEVELOPMENT PLAN ZONIN
TO PROFFER ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS
THEY COULD PROFFER TO RETAIN
EXISTING VEGETATION ALONG THE
PROPERTY LINE, IF THEY SO CHOSE
TO DO SO.
>> MR. MAYOR --
>> I'M SORRY.
>> JUST A MINUTE.
I HEARD STAFF COMMENT.
BEFORE YOU RESPOND, I SEE SOME
COLLEAGUES HAVE COMMENTS.
I RECOGNIZE --
>> I WANT TO ASK STAFF, ON THE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ON THE
NORTHSIDE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE
THE PROPERTY LINE IS IN THE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE IS A
50-FOOT TRANSITIONAL AREA WITH
20-FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, WHER
IS THAT -- IS THAT A PUBLIC
EASEMENT?
DOES IT BELONG TO THE APPLICANT
>> THE 50-FOOT TRANSITIONAL USE
AREA IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE
ADJACENT SUBDIVISION.
IT IS NOT A BUFFER.
I KNOW IT HAS BEEN REFERRED TO
AS A BUFFER THIS EVENING.
IT IS ACTUALLY JUST AN AREA THAT
WAS A COMPONENT OF THE UNIFIED
DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE
REQUIREMENTS FOR PLANNED DENSIT
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS THAT
BASICALLY SAID YOU CAN ONLY DO
IN THAT TRANSITIONAL USE AREA,
LIKE TYPES OF USES PERMISSIBLE
ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE
PROPERTY LINE AND YOU HAVE TO
MEET THE SAME MIRROR SETBACK.
IN ESSENCE, BECAUSE THIS
PROPERTY AT THE TIME WAS ZONED
PROBABLY RR THEY WOULD BE
ALLOWED TO BRING ALL RESIDENTIA
UNITS WITHIN 25 FEET OF THAT
PROPERTY LINE AS LONG AS IT DID
NOT ENCROACH INTO ANY STORM
DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.
>> I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED.
SO TELL ME -- THE TRANSITIONAL
USE AREA, BELONGS TO THE
INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE
ON THE ADJACENT ON STONE HOUSE?
THAT IS CORRECT.
>> AND WHEN I LOOK AT AN AERIAL
PHOTO OF THE AREA I SEE THE
HOUSES ON STONE HOUSE HAVE
MOSTLY REMOVED A LOT OF THE
VEGETATION.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU'RE A
RESIDENT OF STONE HOUSE?
ARE YOU A RESIDENT OF STONE
HOUSE?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE].
>> LET ME ASK YOU.
YOU CAN NOD YOUR HEAD WHERE YOU
LIVE HAVE YOU REMOVED THE
VEGETATION BACK TO THE EDGE OF
THE TRANSITIONAL USE AREA.
IS THERE 50 FEET LEFT THAT IS
VEGETATED ON YOUR PROPERTY?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE] OUTSIDE OF
YOUR YARD PROPER THERE IS A
50-FOOT TRANSITIONAL AREA.
>> IT ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSES
PORTIONS OF THEIR LOT.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, IF
YOU CAN SPEAK TO COUNCIL
MOFFITT -- WHO CAN RESPOND TO
THAT.
WHOEVER WILL RESPOND TO IT, COM
TO THE PODIUM.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE
APPLICANT.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO MASS GRADE?
>> THERE SHOULD BE A NOTE THAT
SAYS EACH LOT WILL BE GRADED.
>> OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, ONE
THING TO DO TO HELP US MOVE
ALONG, I THINK, IS OUTSIDE OF
THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, YOU COUL
COMMIT TO LEAVING THE VEGETATIO
INTACT ON THE NORTHSIDE OF THE
BUILDING ENVELOPES.
I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT, IT
WOULD BE A PROFFER THAT YOU
MAKE.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALK TO THE
CLIENT ABOUT, TO THE PROPERTY
OWNER ABOUT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF ITEMS
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
THE TREES WITH REGARD TO A
TRANSITION SCREENING STANDPOINT
BUT FROM A STORM WATER IMPACT
STANDPOINT.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE POND AN
EVERYTHING AND ALL OF THE STORM
WATER CALCULATIONS AND STILL
DETAINING FOR THE 100-YEAR STOR
WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF
THE SITE WORK DONE AS A PART OF
THE DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE AN
IMPRESSION THAT BY REMOVING A
TREE THAT WE'RE SOMEHOW NOT
ACCOUNTING FOR THE LACK OF
INFILTRATION THAT MAY BE
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
DISTURBANCE.
AGAIN, THAT SITE DISTURBANCE IS
BEING CONSIDERED WHEN DOING THE
STORM WATER CALCULATIONS ON THE
SITE PERMITS FURTHER DOWN THE
ROAD.
AGAIN, FROM A TRANSITION
STANDPOINT, SCREENING
STANDPOINT, I UNDERSTAND AND I
WILL TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER
ABOUT THAT.
>> I'M SORRY.
IS THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE?
>> YES, YEAH.
>> OK.
>> ARE YOU AND STEVE TOGETHER?
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ALSO?
I MEAN JOHN.
IF COUNCILMAN MOFFITT WANTS YOU
TO SATISFY, IT IS UP TO HIM.
>> I'M SATISFIED WITH THE
INFORMATION I HAVE AT THE
MOMENT.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO RESPOND?
>> MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, WE CAN
WORK WITH THE COMMON PROPERTY
LEAN WITH THE SUBDIVISION TO THE
NORTH.
AGAIN THE AREA ON THE NORTHSIDE,
THERE IS A FENCE THERE.
THERE IS AN EXISTING FENCE
BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES THERE.
SO ... STEPHEN, DID YOU HEAR
THAT?
>> I HEARD THAT THE APPLICANT
PROFFERED THE PRESERVATION OF A
10-FOOT WIDE TREE COVERAGE AREA
ADJACENT TO THE NORTHERN
PROPERTY LINE.
>> ARE THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS
FROM -- BY THE COUNCIL IN ANY
DIRECTION?
IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH I THOUGHT
I HAD DONE, CLOSING THE PUBLIC
HEARING ON THIS MATTER.
NOW BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL,
ENTERTAIN THE MOTION ON THIS
ITEM.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION
ON THE ITEM?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE].
>> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MADAM
CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE].
>> YES, YES.
>> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MADAM
CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> THANK YOU.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> I SENSE A GOOD DEAL OF
FRUSTRATION IN THE AUDIENCE BY
THE PROPERTY OWNERS, MANY OF US
SERVED ON THE JOINT CITY-COUNTY
PLANNING.
AND WE OFTEN HAVE CONTROVERSIAL
REZONINGS.
BUT GENERALLY RESIDENTIAL TO
RESIDENTIAL IS NOT PARTICULARLY
CONTROVERSIAL, AND PARTICULARLY
WHEN YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME
DENSITY OR DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO
IT.
SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE
PROFFER FROM THE APPLICANT IN
THAT CASE WAS GENEROUS AND
APPROPRIATE, I JUST WANT YOU TO
KNOW THAT WE DO CONSIDER THESE
THINGS CAREFULLY.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY
FOR NOW.
>> THANK YOU.
LET'S MOVE TO
7. CONSOLIDATED ANNEXATION -
RTP GLOBAL MISSION CHURCH
(BDG1300016)
>> THIS ITEM IS THREE SEPARATE
ACTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO
THE RTP GLOBAL MISSION CHURCH
SITE.
THIS IS REQUESTED BY RTP GLOBAL
MISSION CHURCH.
THE PUBLIC WORKS HAS PERFORMED
THE ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE
ADEQUATE SEWER CAPACITY IS
AVAILABLE.
VOLUNTARY SUBMISSION HAS BEEN
GIVEN BY THE PROPERTY OWN EVERY.
BUDGET SERVICES PERFORMED FISCAL
IMPACT ANALYSIS AND DETERMINED
REVENUES WILL EXCEED
EXPENDITURES ON THE SECOND YEAR
AFTER BUILDOUT.
THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRED TO
APPLY INITIALLYING TO THE
PROPERTY AND STAFF IS
RECOMMENDING AN INITIAL ZONING
OF INDUSTRIAL LIGHT OR IL, WHIC
WOULD PERMIT THE PROPOSED PLACE
OF WORSHIP BY RIGHT.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE
COUNCIL APPROVE THE EXTENSION
AGREEMENT, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION
AND INITIAL ZONING FOR THE
MISSION CHURCH.
>> THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING,
YOU HEARD THE STAFF REPORT.
I ASK IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE
COUNCIL.
IF NOT, WE HAVE ONE PERSON
SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS THE
PROPONENT OF THE ITEM.
LET ME ASK IF THERE ARE PERSONS
THAT MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK AS
PROPONENTS?
ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK AS AN
OPPONENT?
IF NOT, I'M HAVING PROBLEMS
READING THE NAMES.
CHULIVEL.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE].
>> COME TO THE PODIUM.
PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR
ME.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER
PERSONS SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM,
LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE
MINUTES INITIALLY.
>> OK, MY NAME IS STEVEN PARK,
I'M ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
RTP MISSION CHURCH, WE ARE
REPRESENTING OUR CONGREGATION
AND PASTOR LEE I HAVE NOTHING
MORE TO ADD IS ON THE AGENDA I'M
HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF
THERE ARE ANY.
HOPEFULLY THIS IS A BORING CASE.
>> THANK YOU.
LET ME ASK IF THERE ARE
QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENT BY
THE COUNCIL.
RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MOFFITT.
>> NOT THE PROPONENT, I HAVE A
QUESTION FOR STAFF.
>> OK.
>> NOT ABLE TO GET MY CONNECTIO
HERE.
I WORKED ON THE ADJACENT
PROPERTY REZONING WHEN I WAS ON
THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY RECOLLECTION OF THE SITE IS
IT IS FAIRLY STEEP SLOPED
RUNNING DOWN TO A STREAM.
AM I RECOLLECTING IT WRONG?
>> THERE IS AN ADJACENT STREAM
AND I BELIEVE SLOPES.
>> OK.
>> IS THAT IT?
>> I GUESS.
>> YES, THAT'S IT.
>> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FO
OR AGAINST?
LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO ONE
ASKED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR
OR AGAINST, I DECLARE THE PUBLI
HEARING CLOSED.
MATTER IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE,
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>>
> NEXT IS
18. CONSOLIDATED ANNEXATION -
GROVER YANCEY ANNEXATION
(BDG1300015)
>> THIS IS THREE SEPARATE
ACTIONS BY CITY COUNCIL RELATED
TO THE ANNEXATION OF THE GROVY
YANCEY SITE.
A UTILITY EXTENSION AGREEMENT
HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE
PROPERTY OWNER GROVER YANCEY TH
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS
PERFORMED AN PUBLIC WORKS
DEVELOPMENT AND DETERMINED
ACCESS TO ZOOURE AND WATER
AVAILABLE.
PRESIDENT BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT
SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS
PERFORMED A FISCAL IMPACT
ANALYSIS AND REVENUES WILL
EXCEED EXPENDITURES UPON
COMPLETION.
TELL ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF
ONE SINGLE-FAMILY UNIT ON THE
PROPERTY.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE
APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION
AGREEMENT, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION
OF THE GROVY YANCEY SITE.
>> YOU HEARD THE STAFF REPORT.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
I ASK IF THERE ARE COMMENTS BY
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ON THIS
ITEM, FOR THE STAFF?
THERE IS ONE PERSON SIGNED UP T
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
CUFF CRADLE.
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON
THIS?
CLIFF CRADLE.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK
FOR OR AGAINST.
RECOGNIZE MR. CRADLE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL
MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL FOR TAKING A
LOOK AT THIS, THIS EVENING.
THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL LOT.
>> THIS IS JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH
TO ACCOMMODATE WHERE IT IS.
THAT IS WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR
ANNEXATION FOR THE UTILITIES FO
THIS SINGLE-FAMILY LOT AND OLDE
SUBDIVISION.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE QUESTIONS BY
COUNCIL?
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK
ON THIS ITEM, THIS BEING A
PUBLIC HEARING?
LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO ONE
ELSE ASKED TO SPEAK.
I DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING
MOVED.
>> MOVE THE KWLM.
>> PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> MOVE TO ITEM --
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>
19. CONSOLIDATED ANNEXATION -
CHANGING HEARTS FOR CHANGING
LIVES (BDG1300017)
>> THIS ITEM IS THREE SEPARATE
ACTIONS BY CITY COUNCIL REELED
TO THE ANNEXATION OF THE
CHANGING HEARTS FOR CHANGING
LIVES SITE.
UTILITY EXTENSION AGREEMENT
REQUESTED BY CHANGING HEARTS FOR
CHANGING LIVES TO SERVE THE
DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC WORKS
DEPARTMENT HAS PERFORMED A
UTILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT
DETERMINES THE ADEQUATE SEWER
AND WATER IS AVAILABLE.
ANNEXATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED
BOY THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE
SITE.
THE BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES
DEPARTMENT DID PERFORM A FISCAL
IMPACT ANALYSIS AND FOR THE
PROPOSED USE OF THE SITE AS A
PLACE OF WORSHIP AND THAT
DETERMINED THAT THE ESTIMATED
REVENUES WOULD NOT EXCEED THE
ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES WITHIN
THE 10-YEAR ANALYSIS TIME FRAME.
NOTE THAT THE ANNEXATION WOULD
BE EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 31, 2013,
WHICH IS A CORRECTION TO THE
MOTION IN YOUR PACKET.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO
APPLY INITIAL ZONING TO THE
NEWLY ANNEXED PROPERTY.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AN INITIA
ZONING OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL OR
RR TO PERMIT THE PLACE OF
WORSHIP USE SUBJECT TO THE
APPROVAL BY THE MINOR SPECIAL
USE PERMIT BY BOARD OF
ADJUSTMENT.
THE SUGGESTION IS TO APPROVE AT
ITEMS FOR THIS SITE.
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
YOU HAVE HEARD THE STAFF REPORT
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL?
RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN CATOTTI
AND COUNCILMAN MOFFITT, IN THAT
ORDER.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS IS REALLY A QUESTION FOR
STAFF.
THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON
THIS.
WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE
POSSIBLE LOCATION OF ENTRYWAYS
AND -- THERE IS NO ENVELOPE,
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?
>> THERE IS NO ENVELOPE.
THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED SITE PLA
UNDER REVIEW.
ANY DRIVEWAYS HAVE TO BE
APPROVED BY THE NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
BECAUSE ALL THE ADJACENT
ROADWAYS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY
LIMITS.
>> MY QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, I
THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU WER
RECOMMENDING INITIAL RR ZONING
AND IT WOULD PREVENT THE PLACE
OF WORSHIP, IS THATTA WHAT I
HEARD?
>> WOULD WOULD ALLOW PLACE OF
WORSHIP, IF THERE IS PERMISSION
OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION POP ALL THE
CONSOLIDATED ANNEXATION, DOES
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEAR ANY
OF THESE?
IN 2005 THE PLANNING COMMISSION
PASSED A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE
ANY OF THE INITIAL ZONING IF IT
WERE THE SAME AS ALREADY
EXISTING IN THE COUNTY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T
HEAR IT, BUT IT IS TECHNICALLY
RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, WE
HAVE DAVID JOHNSON.
ARE YOU AN OPPONENT OR
PROPONENT?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> WE WILL LEAVE YOU BACK FOR A
MINUTE.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM?
IN SUPPORT OF IT?
WE HAVE TWO PERSONS SIGNED UP T
SPEAK.
DAVID JOHNSON, WHO IS UNDECIDED
I WILL CALL ON SOMEBODY WHO IS
DECIDED.
KEVIN TIGGIN.
IS THAT IT?
AN OPPONENT.
>> CRADLE HAS ALREADY SPOKEN.
>> THANK YOU.
I'M TIRED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THIS
EVERY MONTH.
>> TRY TWICE A MONTH.
>> I JUST GOT QUESTIONS.
THEY WANT TO BE ZONED INTO THE
CITY SO THEY CAN GET.
>> THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRING
THIS ON THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT TH
CITY.
>> JUST DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BE
CHARGED TO THE CITY.
>> I THINK THAT IS A FAIR
QUESTION.
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH
ANNEXATIONS WHICH WE DON'T HAVE
A LOT OF.
JUST NOT WATER AND SEWER.
THEY GET WHATEVER SERVICES THE
CITY PROVIDES.
THEY PAY CITY TAXES.
IN ADDITION TO COUNTY TAXES,
ALSO.
>> MR. CRADLE, YOU'RE IN SUPPOR
OF IT, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS TO
MAKE BEFORE I CALL ON
MR. JOHNSON.
>> I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED
PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY IN
THE COUNTY.
THREE PARCELS BEING RECOMBINED
INTO ONE FOR A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
THE LAND THAT THE PLACE OF
WORSHIP IS BEING PROPOSED IS NOT
REALLY CONDUCIVE TO SEPTIC AND
WELL.
AND IT IS ALSO APPROXIMATELY
80 FEET FROM THE EXISTING SEWER
LINE.
AND ALSO HAS WATER EXISTING ON
BOTH FRONTAGES OF MEDALLION AND
CHEEK ROADS.
SO FAR THAT, WE'RE -- THAT'S TH
REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR
ANNEXATION TO EXTEND THOSE
UTILITIES TO THE SITE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MR. DAVID JOHNSON.
>> WE'RE OPERATING ON THREE
MINUTES ON THESE, MADAM CLERK.
>> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO
ME.
THE REASON I'M NOT SURE, WE'VE
NOT SEEN A PLAN OF WHAT -- WHERE
IT IS GOING TO BE PUT THERE OR
HOW IT WILL BE.
IF IT IS RR I DON'T KNOW A LOT
ABOUT IT.
RURAL RESIDENTIAL SEEMS MORE
LIKE HOUSES AND LESS THE
EXCEPTION OF A CHURCH.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE
CHURCH GOING THERE, BUT IF IT I
GOING TO STAY AS A CHURCH, THAT
IS FINE.
BUT NO ONE THAT I KNOW HAS SEEN
ANY PLANS OR EXACTLY WHERE THE
LAYOUT WILL BE OR ANYTHING OF
THAT NATURE.
ALL MOSTLY IN THE MEDALLION
DRIVE AREA, MOSTLY RETIREDELD OR
LEE PEOPLE.
IF YOU HAVE SEWERS COMING ACROSS
THE PROPERTY, I'M SURE SOMEONE
HAS TO PAY SOMETHING FOR IT
BEING ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN.
>> ALL NIESHS WITHIN 300 FEET OF
THE SITE WOULD BE NOTIFIED OF
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PART OF THAT PROCESS THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF FINDINGS ADOPTED IN
THE ORDINANCE THAT THE BOARD
MUST CONSIDER SUCH AS TRAFFIC
AND CIRCULATION AND IMPACT ON
ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND PROPERT
VALUES.
SHOULD IT NOT BE APPROVED THE
SITE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP
UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING WHICH
IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, SIMILAR TO
WHAT IS AROUND IT.
>> THANK YOU, ANY OTHER
COMMENTS?
ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON
THE ITEM BEFORE I CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING?
>> I'M GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY
NOW, IF HE WANTS TO SPEAK.
>> SORTA -- SORTA ANSWERED IT.
IT WAS ABOUT THE STREET.
AND HOW MANY PEOPLE GOING UP AND
DOWN THE STREET.
AND THEN I ALSO HAD SOME
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STREAM.
IT IS A STREAM ON THE BACK OF
THE PROPERTY.
KIND OF *** THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE MAYBE
THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE MOVING THE
STREAM?
SOME BUFFERS, YOU KNOW,
SOMETHING TO CONTROL THE WATER?
>> RETENTION PONDS.
>> THERE ARE SEVERAL REGULATED
STREAMS ON THIS SITE.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS BUILT ON
THERE, A BUFFER OF AT LEAST
50 FEET, OFTENTIMES 100 FEET
WOULD BE REQUIRED.
>> OK.
>> AS WELL AS ANY STORM WATER
IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED BY THE
CITY STORM WATER ORDINANCE.
>> I THINK I NEED TO WORK WITH
THEM.
BECAUSE MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT
NEXT TO IT.
AND IT DRAINS RIGHT INTO THEIR
PROPERTY.
ANYONE ELSE?
I'M DOING IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT
IN THE REALM OF PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM, COMMENTS OR NOT?
I WILL LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO
ONE ELSE ASKED TO SPEAK.
MATTER IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> IT PASSES 7-0.
>> MOVE TO ITEM
20. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMEN
- PAGE PARK II (A1300006)
>> GOOD EVENING, PAT YOUNG WITH
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
BEFORE YOU IS PAGE 2 II.
THE APPLICANT IS LENNAR
CAROLINAS.
THEY'RE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT
TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF A
10-ACRE PARCEL FROM THE
DESIGNATION OF OFFICE TO MEDIUM
RESIDENTIAL TO ACCOMMODATE THE
ASSOCIATED ZONING CASE THE NEXT
ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THE STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUES
IS PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATE
TRANSITION FROM THE PLANNED
INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES
TO THE EAST AND LOWER
RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH.
AND WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE
SITE AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL AT THE MEETING
UNANIMOUSLY ON OCTOBER 8, 2013,
BY A VOTE OF 11-0.
BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, IT IS A PUBLIC
HEARING.
PUBLIC HEARING IS HOPE -- HUPUBC
HEARING IS OPEN.
I ASK IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OF
THE COUNCIL.
ROCHELLE SHUFRNS WITH STEWART.
>> I LIVE AT 2627 UNIVERSITY
DRIVE HERE IN DURHAM.
REPRESENTING LEONARD CAROLINAS.
I AGREE WITH ALL THAT STAFF HAS
SAID ABOUT THE CASE SO FAR, I AM
AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER PERSONS THAT WANT TO
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
OTHER QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OF
THE PROPONENT?
HEARING NONE, LET THE RECORD
REFLECT NO ONE ELSE ASKED TO
SPEAK.
DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED.
PROPERLY MOVED MADAM CLERK, OPEN
THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> MOVE TO ITEM
1. ZONING MAP CHANGE - PAGE
PARK II (Z1300017)
>> GOOD EVENING, PAT YOUNG WITH
THE PLANS DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A REQUEST FROM LENNARS
CAROLINA TO CHANGE THE REQUEST
OF THE ZONING DESIGNATION WHICH
INCLUDES THE PROPERTY THAT WAS
INCLUDED IN THE LAST ACTION.
LOCATED ON JESSUP STREET NEAR
CROWN PARKWAY AND WEST OF PAGE
ROAD.
THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE
ZONING DESIGNATION FROM
RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN MULTIFAMILY
WITH THE DWAEMENT PRAN AND
OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IF APPROVED THE REQUEST TONIGHT
WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
OF MAXIMUM OF 124 RESIDENTIAL
UNITS.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTUR
LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION BASE
SAID ON THE ACTIONS TAKEN
PREVIOUSLY.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
COMMITMENTS IN THE REQUEST,
ASSOCIATED WITH THE PACKAGE.
STAFF HAS DETERMINED THIS
REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OTHER
ADOPTED POLICIES AND ORDINANCES
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE ITE
AT AIRCRAFT EIGHT, 2013 MEETING
BY A VOTE OF 11-0.
HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
>> THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
YOU HEARD THE STAFF REPORT,
QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL?
ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON
THE ITEM.
>> GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR, CITY
COUNCIL, AGAIN, ROBERT SHUNT
2627 UNIVERSITY DRIVE.
I CAN MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR
ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENT?
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN SCHEWEL.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I WANTED TO NOTE THAT THIS IS
ZONING CHANGE IS PROJECTED AT 20
STUDENTS TO THE POPULATION OF
DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOL ABOVE THE
CURRENT ZONING.
WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING
TO PROFFER A CONTRIBUTION OF
$500 PER STUDENT FOR THOSE 20
STUDENTS INTO THE DURHAM
SCHOOLS.
>> I WILL MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION
FOR YOU MR. SCHEWEL.
THE UNIT COUNT THAT IS PROPOSED
IS IF WE WERE TO DO APARTMENTS.
THERE WAS NO COMMITMENT TO DO
TOWNHOMES, FOR WHICH WE WERE
PROPOSING, IN TALKING ABOUT
SCOTT WHITEHEAD, THE INCREASE O
STUDENTS WOULD BE LESS THAN
THAT.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE WOULD BE
WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE $500 PER
ADDITIONAL STUDENT FOR THE
ZONING REQUEST.
>> AND HOW WOULD THAT BE THEN
COMPUTED?
THE WAY WE HAVE IT COMPUTED IS
IN FRONT OF US.
MAYBE STAFF CAN HELP ME WITH
THAT?
>> SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, UNLESS
THERE A COMMITMENT TO THE TYPE
OF USE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY
RECOMMEND COUNCIL CONSIDER THE
MAXIMUM POSSIBLE USE WHICH IS A
YOU ALLUDED TO IS APARTMENTS.
>> WOULD YOU WILL ARE BE WILLING
TO PROFFER THAT $500 PER STUDENT
TIMES 20 STUDENTS.
>> WE WOULD BE WILLING TO PROIT
FOR THE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS THAT
WE ARE PLANNING FOR.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF BEFOR
THAT THE AIM OF STUDENTS WE
WOULD BE ADDING WOULD BE
EVALUATED AT SITE PLAN AND THE
TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT OR FINAL
PLOT WHATEVER THE TRIGGER IS WE
WOULD PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL
STUDENTS AT THAT TIME.
WE HAVE A SITE PLAN ALREADY IN
PROCESS FOR THE TOWNHOME.
DEVELOPMENT.
>> IS THAT CUSTOMARY?
OR OCCASIONALLY OCCUR?
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF A PRECEDENT
FOR IT.
BUT IT IS CONCEPTUALLY POSSIBLE
AND LEGAL, IF YOU WISH TO ACCEPT
IT.
>> WE DID IT FOR SOUTH POINT
TRAILS.
SO IT IS PRECEDENTED ONCE.
HA-HA.
I APOLOGIZE.
THERE IS A SITE PLAN UNDER
REVIEW THAT REFLECTS TOWNHOMES
THAT'S NOT COMMITTED.
BUT IF THAT CONTINUES FORWARD W
CAN CERTAINLY ENFORCE IT THE
WAY --
>> WE CAN EASILY COMMIT TO DOIN
TOWNHOMES, MR. SCHEWEL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I'M SORRY, STEVE.
>> IS THAT A COMMITMENT?
>> IF HE WOULD -- TO STEVE'S
POINT EARLIER TO ME THIS
MORNING, IF HE WOULD LIKE ME TO
COMMIT TO IT I WILL UPON HIS
REQUEST.
>> SO MANY STEEVES HERE
MRMR
MR. SHUNK.
>> FOR IT TO BE A VOLUNTARY
PROFFER, THE APPLICANT HAS TO
MAKE A PROFFER.
COUNCIL MEMBER SCHEWEL HAS
POINTED OUT THAT HE HAS CONCERN
THIS PROJECT MAY CREATE AN
IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND
SIMPLY ASKING THE APPLICANT WHA
THEY WOULD DO TO OFFSET THOSE
CONCERNS.
>> IS THERE AN ANSWER?
STEVE?
>> WE WILL MAKE A $500
CONTRIBUTION FOR EACH INCREASE
OF STUDENTS WE ARE PROPOSING.
>> WE'VE HEARD THE PROFFER.
OTHER THERE OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE
COUNCIL?
RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBERS
MOFFITT.
>> I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING,
BUT I ALSO HEARD YOU PROFFER
THAT YOU WOULD BUILD TOWNHOMES
HERE?
>> OH, NO, NO, YOU SAID WE COULD
EASILY COMMIT TO IT.
IF YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO IT,
THAT'S FINE.
I WANT TO KNOW.
>> I WAS NOT PROPOSING ME TO.
>> I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO
ANYTHING.
I'M ASKING YOU WHAT YOU
COMMITTED TO.
I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I HEARD.
I'M ASKING YOU TO CLARIFY.
>> WE'RE COMMITTING TO DO $500
PER ADDITIONAL STUDENT.
>> OK.
>> COUNCILWOMAN CATOTTI.
>> THE PROJECTION IS 20 STUDENTS
IF APARTMENTS, WHAT IS THE
ESTIMATED NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL
STUDENTS IF THEY'RE TOWNHOMES?
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE GENERATION
RATES WITH US TONIGHT, IT IS
SLIGHTLY LESS.
IT IS VERY SLIGHTLY.
I WOULD ESTIMATE KIND OF 15 TO
17, RANGE.
>> OK.
>> RATHER THAN COMMIT TO A
PARTICULAR USE, I'M COMFORTABLE
WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT THEY
WOULD USE THE CALCULATIONS BY
STAFF AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN,
BUT IT WAS HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT
THE SCALE WAS THERE.
THANK YOU.
>> ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC
THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM
RECOGNI
RECOGNI
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN SCHEWEL?
>> ON PAGE 9, SERVE THE MAXIMUM
PART.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN IMPERVIOUS
SURFACE OF 100%.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT
MEANS?
>> AND WITH THE 100, THERE IS NO
LEGAL RESTRICTION AS THERE IS IN
MUCH THE CITY AND COUNTY OF THE
MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
>> WHY IS THAT?
EXPLAIN THAT.
BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE
LOCATION OF THE SITE, I BELIEVE
AND STAFF CAN ASSIST ME WITH
THIS.
I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE THIS IS
IN THE CRABTREE CREEK BASIN,
DOESN'T DRAIN TO THE WATER
SUPPLY, WATERSHED.
THEREFORE, THE STATE-MANDATED
LOCAL RESTRICTIONS ARE LESSER.
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS?
IF NOT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
CLOSED.
THE MATTER IS BACK BEFORE THE
COUNCIL.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> MOVE TO ITEM
22. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT
- MUIRFIELD COMMERCIAL
(A1200015)
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
MUIRFIELD COMMERCIAL IS AN
APPLICATION BY HORVATH
ASSOCIATES TO MODIFY THE FUTURE
LAND USE ON THE 1.5 ACRE SITE ON
THE EAST SIDE OF GHOST ROAD
NORTH OF HORTON SOUTH OF VICTOR
BOULEVARD.
FROM THE LOW DENSITY MEDIUM TO
COMMERCIAL.
THIS WOULD FACILITATE THE ZONING
REQUEST, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM
ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, BASE
ON THE FOUR CRITERIA FOR REVIEW
OF SITE PLAN -- EXCUSE ME, FOR
REVIEW OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENTS AND PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL
UNANIMOUSLY AT THE OCTOBER 2013
MEETING BY A VOTE OF 11-0.
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> PUBLIC HEARING, THE PUBLIC
HEARING IS OPEN.
I ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF ON
THE PRESENTATION?
IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC.
WE HAVE RON HARPER TO SPEAK ON
THIS ITEM.
ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM?
IF NOT, RON, YOU HAVE THREE
MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL.
RON HORVATH REPRESENTING TYCON
IN THIS MATTER.
IT A CLARIFICATION TO CORRECT
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
THE PROPERTY WAS ZONED
COMMERCIAL A NUMBER OF YEARS
AGO, BUT AT THAT TIME WE WERE
NOT UPDATING THE LAND USE PLAN.
ASK YOUR INDULGSENCE IN THIS IN
APPROVAL.
WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> YOU HEARD THE PROPONENT, ANY
QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENT.
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN MOFFITT.
>> MR. HORVATH CHARACTERIZED
THIS AS A TECHNICAL CORRECTION,
WOULD YOU AGREE.
>> I WOULD AGREE AS A CONCEPT.
WASN'T PRACTICED IN 2003 TO
AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
EVERY TIME THE ZONING MAP WAS
CHANGED.
THE ZONING MAP WAS CHANGED IN A
MANNER INCONSISTEN WITH THE COMP
PLAN.
IT RECONCILES THE COMP PLAN WIT
THE ZONING.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS
TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO ONE I
PUBLIC ASKED TO SPEAK BEYOND THE
PROPONENT.
DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED.
MATTER IS BACK BEFORE THE
COUNCIL.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE,
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> IT PASSES 7-0.
>> THANK YOU, MOVE TO ITEM ISSUE
23. ZONING MAP CHANGE -
MUIRFIELD COMMERCIAL (Z1200026)
>> GOOD EVENING, THIS IS TO
CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION O
APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRE PARCEL ON
VICTORY BOULEVARD FROM THE
EXISTING DESIGNATION OF
COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CN WITH
A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO COMMERCIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD OR CN WITH A
DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH DIFFERENT
COMMITMENTS.
THIS IS ORIGINAL ZONED IN 2003
AS WAS DISCUSSED BRIEFLY IN THE
LAST CASE.
AND THERE ARE THREE WAYS THAT
WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED DEVIATES
FROM THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
PLAN.
WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WOULD
ALLOW AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT
OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
FROM 5,000 SQUARE FEET TO 8,000
SQUARE FEET.
IT MODIFIES THE SITE ACCESS
POINTS AND CHANGES COMMITTED
USES TO ALLOW MIX OF RETAIL USES
WITHOUT A DRIVE-THRU.
THE PREVIOUS ZONING LIMITED USE
TO OFFICE OR RETAIL OR
RESTAURANT.
THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED
ON THE ACTION YOU TOOK IN THE
PREVIOUS ITEM.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TEXT,
GRAPHIC AND DESIGN COMMITMENTS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST
WHICH ARE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF
REPORT, INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA
PACKAGE.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL ON OCTOBER 8, 2013, BY
A VOTE OF 11-0.
BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
YOU HEARD THE STAFF REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS BY MEMBER OF THE
COUNCIL?
THE PROPONENT, RON HORVATH.
>> RON HORVATH, ONE ITEM TO
BRING OUT, THE MAIN CHANGE FOR
THE ZONING WAS TO ELIMINATE TWO
DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS ACROSS THE
STREAM TO THE REAR OF THE
PROPERTY AND PROVIDED ACCESS
THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEHIND THIS
COMMERCIAL PIECE.
WE HAVE MOVED THAT ACCESS POINT
OUT ON TO VICTORY BOULEVARD AND
ELIMINATED THE TWO-STREAM
CROSSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD
ACCESS.
I ASK YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS.
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, ARE THERE
QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENT?
RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN CATOTTI.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
MY SITE PLANS, DEVELOPMENT PLAN
IS NOT COMING UP, BUT PERHAPS
STAFF OR THE APPLICANT CAN
CLARIFY THE OFFSET TRAIL WARREN
CREEK TRAIL.
CAN'T GET THE PICTURE UP.
THERE IS A GRAPHIC COMMITMENT.
>> ALL GRAPHIC COMMITMENTS ARE
BINDING I'M TRYING TO FIND MY
COPY FOR REFERENCE, ALSO.
THE APPLICANT IS CERTAINLY ABLE
TO SPEAK TO THE SITUATION.
>> YOU HAVE TO HELP ME ON THAT
PAT.
I BELIEVE THAT WENT BACK TO
2003, DIANE WHEN THERE WAS A
COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE AN
EASEMENT FOR A TRAIL THROUGH
WARREN CREEK, WHICH IS ON THE
SOUTHERN SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY
NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL.
WE STILL HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH
THAT.
IT IS ALL IN FLOODPLAIN.
>> SO, THERE IS A COMMITMENT ON
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH IS
NOT PART OF THE ACTION TONIGHT.
IT IS ASSOCIATED, I THINK WITH
THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, BUT
NOT PART OF THE ACTION BEFORE
YOU.
AS THE APPLICANT ALLUDED TO
WOULD STAY A COMMITMENT FOR THE
2003 ACTION AS AN EASEMENT
DEDICATION.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS?
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE
PUBLIC?
LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO ONE
ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WANTED TO
SPEAK.
PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED MATTER
IS BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> MOVE TO ITEM
4. ZONING MAP CHANGE - HUTSON
PROPERTY (Z1300010)
SUPPOSED TO GOOD EVENING, PAT
YOUNG AGAIN WITH THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT, HUDSON PROPERTY IS
REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING
DESIGNATION OF 7.99 ACRE PARCEL
LOCATED AT 117 EAST DENSITY 54
HIGHWAY, EAST OF FAYETTEVILLE T
INTERSTATE 40 FROM THE
RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL 20 TO
OFFICE INSTITUTIONAL WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IF APPROVED, THE ACTION BEFORE
YOU WOULD ANCH LOU FOR MAXIMUM
OF 150 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF
OFFICE SPACE.
THERE ARE TEXT GRAPHIC AND
DESIGN COMMITMENTS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE REQUEST, DETAILED IN
THE STAFF REPORT AND AGENDA
PACKAGE.
INCLUDING TRANSIT AND ROADWAY
IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING THE
4-FOOT BICYCLE LANE AND DESIGN
COMMITMENTS.
STAFF DETERMINED THIS IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION
FOR THE PROPERTY.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL OF THE ITEM AT THE
SEPTEMBER 10, 2013, MEETING BY A
VOTE OF 11-0.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
>> PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY
THE CONSEQUENTLY?
IF NOT, WE HAVE ONE PERSON
SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
BOB ZIL WALT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MEMBER
OF COUNCIL, BOB ZIM WALT HERE
REPRESENTING DAVIS CAPITAL.
I HAVE EARL LEWELLYN AND AUSTIN
COULDN'T AS WELL.
WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENT?
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN SCHEWEL.
>> MR. MAYOR, THIS IS FOR THE
STAFF, WHICH IS, IF THAT'S
APPROPRIATE, JUST THE ADDITIONAL
TRIPS PER DAY WITH THE
OVERCROWDED ROADS, ANY PROBLEM
WITH THAT?
>> I'LL ASK WESLEY PERRIN WITH
THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO
ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
>> NO, SIR, WE DO NOT SEE ANY
ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
>> WELL, EXPLAIN WHY NOT.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE
ALREADY OVER THE -- OVER THE
LIMIT.
>> YOU'RE REFERRING TO
INTERSTATE 40?
>> UM, YEAH, LET'S SEE.
UM ...
>> THE CURRENT TRAFFIC VOLUME
UPON OF 54 IS 15 THOUSAND.
THE CAPACITY IS 2700.
THEY'RE WELL BELOW THAT.
THE GENERAL TRAFFIC FROM THE
SITE WILL NOT APPROACH THAT.
>> BUT 54 -- I'M SORRY.
BUT INTERSTATE 40 AND
FAYETTEVILLE ROAD?
>> INTERSTATE 40 CERTAINLY IS
OVER ITS CAPACITY BUT THIS
FACILITY DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT
ACCESS TO THAT.
>> AND FAYETTEVILLE ROAD?
>> IT DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT
ACCESS TO FAYETTEVILLE ROAD.
>> OK.
THANK YOU.
>> FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNCIL?
FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNCIL?
ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WANT
TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
I DECLARE IT CLOSED.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> MOVE TO ITEM
5. ZONING MAP CHANGE - HOPE
VALLEY FARMS POD BB REVISIONS
(Z1300012)
>> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN, PAT
YOUNG WITH THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT, HOPE VALLEY FORMS
PAD BB REVISIONS HOPE TO CHANGE
THE ZONING MAP OF THE PARCEL AT
1051 MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR
PARKWAY BETWEEN SOUTH ROCKSBORO
ROAD AND HILLS DAY DRIVE.
THIS WAS ZONED CD WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IT INCLUDED A LARGE NUMBER OF
GRAPHIC AND TEXT COMMITMENTS
WHICH WOULD STAY IN PLACE WITH
WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THESE INCLUDED ENHANCE PROJECT
BOUNDARY BUFFERS AND
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE ARE TWO -- EXCUSE ME, FIV
PROFFERS, TWO BROAD SETS OF
PROFFERS THE APPLICANT IS
REQUESTING TO HAVE REMOVED FROM
THE 2009 COMMITMENTS BEFORE YOU
TONIGHT.
ONE IS THE REMOVAL OF THE
PROFFER THAT IN 2009 LIMITED
FUEL SALE USES AND CONVENIENCE
STORE USES ON THIS SITE.
AND THE OTHER SET OF COMMITMENTS
THAT ARE BEING ASKED TO BE
REMOVED ARE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT
ON MARTIN LUTHER KING PARKWAY
AND SOUTH ROCKSBORO STREET THAT
ARE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED BY
OTHERS.
STAFF DETERMINES THIS REQUEST IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OTHER
ADOPTED ORDINANCES.
STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A
VOTE OF 11-0.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, YOU HEARD THE
STAFF REPORT.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS DO
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF
INITIALLY ON THIS ITEM?
IF NOT, WE HAVE THREE PERSONS
WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK,
PATRICK BIKER, LEWIS CHEEK AND
DR. ISLY YOUR NAME?
MA'AM?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
DO YOU MIND IF YOU COULD SIGN U
SO WE HAVE IT FOR THE RECORD.
IF YOU COULD GO SIGN UP.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU GO TO THE
CLERK'S DESK AND SIGN THE YELLO
CARD, PLEASE.
RIGHT THERE.
IS THIS -- IS THAT IT?
OK.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE NAME.
OK.
ALL RIGHT.
ARE YOU SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION
TO THE PLAN?
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> OK.
YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.
I'LL CALL YOU AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME.
PATRICK BIKER, LEWIS CHEEK,
LET'S TAKE 10 MINUTES AT THE
MOST ON THIS, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR BELL,
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL MY
NAME IS PATRICK BIKER, I LIVE ON
STEWART DRIVE, I'M AN ATTORNEY
WITH MORNING STAR LAW GROUP.
ALONG WITH COCOUNCIL, I'M HERE
REPRESENTING MURPHY U.S.A.
WE'RE REQUESTING THIS MINOR
ZONING MAP CHANGE TO 6.77 ACRES
ALONG MARTIN LUTHER PARKWAY
ATTRACTLY ACROSS FROM AN
EXISTING WASN'T.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW THE
REST OF THE TEAM HERE, MURPHY
U.S., MR. WAYNE GIBSON.
PROJECT ENGINEERS ARE HAMILTON
WILLIAMS AND GREG SIS STROM FRO
GREEN BAY PHARAOH AND TRAFFIC
ENGINEERS.
GIVEN THE TIME OF NIGHT I WILL
FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF HOWARD
CLEMENT TO BE SEEN, BE BRIEF
AND.
FIRST WE WILL CONDUCT A .
>> .8 OPACITY BEFORE.
WE WILL INSTALL ABOUT 75 SHRUBS
THAT IS A LOT OF PLANTING.
ONE SHRUB EVERY 16 INCHES.
AS A RESULT, PLENTY OF SCREENIN
ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE ALONG
OAK VALLEY FARMS.
IT APPEARS THE CLOSEST RESIDENT
IS APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET AWAY.
1 AND A HALF FOOTBALL FEEDS AND
THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE .8
OPACITY BUFFER I DESCRIBED.
MORE OVER, THERE IS A COMMITTED
ELEMENT TO MAKE SURE ANY
DRIVE-THRU FACILITY HAS THE
SPOKERS ORIENTED AWAY FROM THE
RESIDENTIAL AREA SOUTHEAST OF
OUR DEVELOPMENT.
ONE LAST POINT.
THIS PARCEL BEFORE YOU HAS BEEN
ZONED COMMERCIAL FOR THE PAST
FOUR YEARS.
WE HAVE NOW A PROJECT THAT CAN
IMPLEMENT THAT ESTABLISHED
ZONING DESIGNATION.
WE WERE POLICED TO HOST A
NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ABOUT THIS
PROJECT SINCE IT WAS A TIA
REQUIRED WITH THE ZONING MAP
CHANGE.
I SENT OUT 45 PERSONALIZED
LETTERS TO NEARBY PROPERTY
OWNERS.
ONLY TWO OF THE 45 PEOPLE
INVITED CAME TO THE MEETING AND
WE HAD A THOROUGH DISCUSSION
WITH BOTH OF THEM ABOUT THE
LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
WE DID NOT PERCEIVE EITHER OF
THE TWO TO BE OPPOSED TO THE
CONVENIENCE STORE AT THIS
LOCATION.
I TURN THE PRESENTATION TO LEWIS
CHEEK.
THEN OUR TEAM WILL BE HAPPY TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
>> NEIGHBOR BELL, MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL, MY NAME IS LEWIS CHECK,
IT IS A PRIVILEGE ALONG WITH
PATRICK BIKER TO REPRESENT
MURPHY U.S.A.
MURPHY IS AN INTERNATIONAL
COMPANY BASED IN ELDORADO
ARKANSAS.
FULLY INTEGRATED IN THE FUEL
EXPLORATION BUSINESS.
ON THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE.
1174 CONVENIENCE STORE SITES
ACROSS THE U.S.
73 OF THESE SITES ARE IN NORTH
CAROLINA WITH OVER 500 KNEES.
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST SITE IN
DURHAM.
THERE WOULD BE 7 TO 8 EMPLOYEES.
WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT 1200 SQUARE
FOOT BUILDING WITH FOUR ISLANDS
WITH EIGHT FUEL DISPENSING
PUMPS.
WE ESTIMATE THE SITE WOULD
CREATE $2 MILLION IN TAX BASE
AND OF COURSE, THERE WOULD BE
ASSOCIATED SALES TAXES.
A NUMBER OF ENHANCEMENTS AND
IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THIS
DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD
FRIENDLY.
TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE
CONSTRUCTED TO MITIGATE THE
AFFECTS OF THE TRAFFIC.
NO FURTHER MEDIAN CUTS IN MARTI
LUTHER KING JUNIOR PARKWAY AS A
RESULT OF THE PROJECT.
THE STAFF HAS STUDIED THE
PROJECT AND DETERMINED THAT THE
REQUEST IS CONSISTEN WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
APPLICABLE POLICIES.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED
11-0 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS
ZONING MAP CHANGE AND I'LL BE
GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTION
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> THANK YOU, QUESTIONS BY
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR
PROPONENTS?
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMAN DAVIS.
>> MAYOR PRO TEM.
>> I WANTED TO ASK MR. CHEEK IF
YOU COULD REITERATE THE QUESTIO
I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE
LIGHTING AND INTRUSION OF
LIGHTING FROM THIS FACILITY ON
TO THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND IT.
>> LET ME LEAVE THAT TO ONE OF
OUR EXPERTS.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND
COUNCIL, MY NAME IS HAMILL ONE
WILLIAMS REPRESENTING MURPHY
U.S.A. IN THIS PICTURE AS AN
ENGINEER.
THE MAJORITY OF THE LIGHT WILL
BE UNDER THE CANOPY, THE
HIGH-INTENSITY LIGHT.
AND RECESSED L.E.D. LIGHTING
THAT WILL PRIMARILY NOT SPILL
OUT FROM UNDER THE CANOPY EXCEP
IN THE PERIMETER DRIVE AREA.
THE SITE LIGHTING ITSELF WILL
ALSO BE L.E.D. LIGHTING AS WELL
DOWNCAST AND DEFINITELY NOT
SPILL BEYOND THE PROPERTY
LIMITS.
>> OK.
RECOGNIZE MAYOR PRO TEM.
>> ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I
HAVE ABOUT THIS CONVENIENCE
STORE COMES FROM COMPLAINTS THAT
I RECEIVED FROM RESIDENTS WHO
ARE LOCATED NEAR A CONVENIENCE
STORE IN WARD 1.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY
TALKED ABOUT WAS NOISE FROM CARS
COMING ON TO THE CONVENIENCE
STORE PROPERTY ALL TIMES OF
NIGHT.
I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THERE
MIGHT BE LITTER ON MARTIN LUTHE
KING PARKWAY FROM FOLK WHO ARE
COMING INTO THE CONVENIENCE
STORE.
I DONE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, WHAT
DO YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH.
>> WE'LL MONITOR OUR PROPERTY
AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HOL
DOWN THE NOISE TO DEAL WITH ANY
LITTER THAT IS GENERATED.
THAT IS A DIFFERENT PROBLEM OF
COURSE, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING T
MAKE SURE IT IS NOT A PROBLEM
WITH OUR PROPERTY.
>> GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR, MAYOR
PRO TEM.
I'M WITH MURPHY OIL OUT OF
ELDORADO ARKANSAS.
MAYOR PRO TEM, CONCERNING THE
NOISE AT CONVENIENCE STORES WE
KNOW THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS AREA, AN
IN PARTICULAR, DURHAM FOR
SEVERAL YEARS.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE
DEMOGRAPHICS, COMPETITION,
TRAFFIC COUNTS, AND LOCALE.
WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS, WHERE YOU
LOCATE IN MANY INSTANCES, THAT
NOISE PROBLEM IS NOT AS LARGE.
WE FEEL LIKE IN THIS AREA WHERE
WE HAVE LOCATED THIS SITE, WE
DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE A
REAL ISSUE.
WITH CARS COMING IN, WITH MUSIC
BLASTING AND SO FORTH.
AND SHOULD IT BE, WE WILL AVAIL
OURSELVES OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE
THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE
HERE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
>> DO YOU PAY YOUR STAPH MINIMU
WAGE?
I'M JUST INTERESTED IN KNOWING.
>> WELL ABOVE THE MINIMUM WAGE.
>> HOW ABOUT THE LIVEABLE WAGE?
>> VERY LIVEABLE WAGE AS WELL.
>> MOST WILL BE ATTENDANTS?
>> WE WILL HAVE A MANAGER,
ASSISTANT MANAGER AT THIS SITE
AND FOUR TO FIVE CASHIER TYPES
THAT WOULD MAN THIS STATION.
>> OK.
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, SIR.
>> OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
IDA?
>> GUEOOD EVENING.
>> STATE YOUR FAME FOR THE
RECORD.
>> IDA [INDISCERNIBLE].
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OAK
VALLEY FARMS, AND 240
HOMEOWNERS.
THE ZONING CHANGE WAS REQUESTED
BY AN APPLICANT.
THE CITY REVIEW PROCESS PROVIDE
NOTIFICATION, HOWEVER THE
NOTIFICATION DID NOT REACH ALL
OF THESE 240 TOWNHOUSES -- I
SHOULD SAY HOMEOWNERS.
ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD I
ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE
THE HEARING PROCESS AND ALLOW
THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE OPPORTUNIT
TO MEET AND SPEAK WITH THE
APPLICANT AND FORM AN OPINION
ABOUT THE PROJECT.
WE UNDERSTAND REQUIREMENTS IN
THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS WERE
MET BY THE CITY HOWEVER, DUE TO
THE TIMING OF THE NOTIFICATION
AND OUR BOARD ELECTIONS
COINCIDING OUR THIRD PARTY
HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND NEW
AND OLD NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS
COULD NOT PROCESS THIS UNTIL
AFTER THE TRANSITION WAS
COMPLETED.
HENCE, 240 -- I SHOULD SAY MOST
OF THE 240 PROPERTIES IN
QUESTION DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO
THE NOTIFICATION AND THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
THE ZONE CHANGE REVIEW PROCESS
OF CITIZENS.
WE PLEAD THAT THE ELM GROVE
TOWNHOUSE NEIGHBORHOOD BE
ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS
PROCESS WITH CONTINUED HEARINGS
BY CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
LET ME ASK BEFORE I MOVE TO THE
STAFF, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THA
WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS
RELATIVE TO THE REQUEST BY THE
YOUNG LADY?
>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE
ANYTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN THE
REPRESENTATIONS THE APPLICANT
MADE WERE FAIR.
AS THE OPPONENT ACKNOWLEDGED.
THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS WERE MET
AND ALL HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE
600-FOOT AREA WERE DIRECTLY
CONTACTED.
>> LET ME ASK IF THERE WERE
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL?
COUNCILMAN MOFFITT?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR
MS. [INDISCERNIBLE]?
I JUST WANTED TO ASK, WHEN YOU
FOUND OUT ABOUT THE REZONING?
>> YES, IT WAS AT OUR ELECTION,
BOARD OF ELECTION MEETING.
IT WAS AT 9:00, THERE WAS A
GENTLEMAN PRESENT WHO EXPRESSED
SURPRISE THAT HE WAS THE ONLY
ONE HAD THE THE HEARINGS, HAD W
NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS.
>> I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DAY.
>> WHEN WAS IT?
THE 12th.
I THINK IT WAS THE 12th.
9:00 P.M.
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME.
>> RIGHT.
OK.
DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS
ABOUT THIS PROJECT?
>> WE JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH
ABOUT IT.
WE WEREN'T GIVEN A CHANCE OF AN
KIND.
SINCE IT IS NOT SINGLE
DWELLINGS, WE'RE TALKING
TOWNHOMES, DENSELY PACKED, WHICH
MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW THE PLANNIN
RULES OR ANYTHING OR IF THERE IS
ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR
TOWNHOMES BECAUSE IN THE SAME
AREA THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEOPL
THAN A SINGLE DWELLING
ESTABLISHMENT.
WE JUST WANTED TO SIT DOWN,
SPEAK WITH THEM, LEARN A LITTLE
BIT MORE.
NOT EVERYBODY IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAVVY WITH PLAT
AND THE REPORT THAT WAS PREPA
PREPARED.
SO IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR EVERYONE
TO MEET AND GREET THE OTHER SID
AND LEARN WHAT THIS IS ALL
ABOUT.
>> GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE PROPONENT -- LET ME
RECOGN
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN BROWN,
FIRST.
>> I'M SORRY.
WHERE DID SHE GO.
WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD ARE YOU
REPPING AGAIN.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> I'M CONFUSED.
IS THAT A SECTION?
CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE?
IS THAT A SECTION WITHIN HOPE
VALLEY?
>> IT IS.
THERE ARE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATIONS THAT OVERSEA ELM
GROVE -- I MEAN, HOPE VALLEY
FARMS.
THE WHOLE AREA IS DIVIDED INTO
THREE NEIGHBORHOODS
ASSOCIATIONS, IF YOU WILL.
AND OURS IS AT THE VERY FAR TIP
OF HOPE VALLEY FARMS NORTH.
AND IT IS ABUTTING RIGHT NEXT TO
THE PROPERTY AGAINST THE LAND.
IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPERT
IN QUESTION, WHICH IS THE WOODED
AREA.
>> RIGHT.
OK.
THANK YOU.
>> STEVE OR STAFF?
CAN YOU INFORM US AGAIN ABOUT
PROPER NOTIFICATION THAT WAS
MAILED TO THOSE?
I WOULD ASSUME?
WOULD THAT BE -- IS THE
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHE'S
REFERRING TO CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY?
>> THERE ARE HOMES WITHIN THE
ELM GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WER
WITHIN THE 600-FOOT MANDATED
NOTIFICATION AREA.
THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE SENT
FIRST-CLASS NOTICE AS PRESCRIBED
BY LOCAL STANDARDS AN THE STATE
STATUTE.
TO REMIND COUNCIL, HERE IN
DURHAM, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE 600%
MORE NOTICE THAN REQUIRED BY
STATE LAW.
STATE LAW REQUIRES 100-FOOT
NOTICE RING AROUND PERIMETERS.
WE GO WELL BEYOND THAT.
IN ADDITION, WE ALSO AS A
COURTESY, SEND A NOTICE TO ALL
NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS OR
ORGANIZATIONS THAT REGISTER WIT
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND WE DID SEND I THINK A
HANDFUL OF NOTICES OUT TO
SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD
REGISTERED WITH US.
IN ADDITION, WE DO PLACE LEGAL
ADS IN THE LOCAL PAPER OF RECOR
AS REQUIRED BY LAW AND WE ALSO
POST A PLACARD ON THE PROPERTY
TO ADDITIONALLY ADVERTISE THAT
THERE IS A REZONING REQUEST
PENDING.
>> THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMAN BROWN, IF I MAY,
MY RECORDS INDICATE I DID SEND A
FIRST CLASS LETTER TO ELM GROVE
TOWNHOME ASSOCIATION ON APRIL 2
THIS YEAR.
IT WAS SENT DIRECTLY TO THEM.
>> RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN MOFFITT.
>> MR. MEDLIN?
SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
600-FOOT NOTIFICATION ZONE,
THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT O
PROPERTY UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY
THAT SURROUNDS THE SUBJECT
PROPERTY.
WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY?
>> THAT IS OWNED BY CADS WICK --
THE DEVELOPER OF HOPE VALLEY
FARMS.
>> OK.
SO THERE IS ONE LANDOWNER THAT
OWNS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF
PROPERTY?
>> THAT IS PRIMARILY FLOODPLAIN,
STREAM BUFFER AREA BEING
RETAINED AS OPEN SPACE.
>> THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTIES WITHIN THE
NOTIFICATION ZONE ARE FAIRLY
LIMITED?
>> YOU ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT
FIVE -- UM, SIX LOOKING AT
THE -- IF YOU HAVE A MAP IN
FRONT OF YOU, IN THE ELM GROVE
COMMUNITY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE FOUR BUILDINGS ON THE
NORTHSIDE AND ALL THE INDIVIDUAL
UNITS AND I THINK TWO OR THROUGH
OF THE INTERNAL UNITS THAT THE
ARC ACTUALLY CROSS.
>> COUNCILMAN MOFFITT IT WAS 45
PROPERTY OWNERS, I WOULD BE
HAPPY TO SCHAFFER THIS LIST WIT
YOU.
>> 45 PROPERTY OWNERS GOT
NOTICE.
>> PLUS THE ASSOCIATIONS.
>> WHEN YOU SAY THE ASSOCIATION
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOFFITT, THE
ELM GROVE TOWNHOME ASSOCIATION
INCORPORATED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO
THE PUBLIC UNLESS YOU WANT TO
ASK A QUESTION.
COUNCILMAN MOFFITT, YOU STILL
HAVE THE FLOOR.
YOU'RE DONE?
OK.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
BY COUNCIL?
IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING ON THIS MATTER AND THE
MATTER IS BACK BEFORE THE
COUNCIL.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> IT PASSES 5-2 WITH
COUNCILWOMAN CATOTTI VOTING NO
AND COUNCILWOMAN MOFFITT VOTING
NO.
>> THANK YOU, MOVE TO THE NEXT
ITEM.
ITEM
6. STREET CLOSING - NORTH
LASALLE STREET (SC1300003)
>> EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE
THEY LEAVE.
I THINK ONE OF OUR COUNCIL
MEMBERS ASKED TO THE EXTERIOR OF
THIS CONVENTION -- NOT THE
CONVENTION.
>> THAT THE BUILDING BE ENHANCED
AND EMBELLISHED.
WAS THAT PROFFERED?
USING BRICK?
WAS IT UNDERSTOOD BY ALL
PARTIES.
>> WE WILL MAKE IT AN ATTRACTIVE
BUILDING.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS BRICK.
>> DO WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE ON
THIS?
>> THERE WERE DESIGN COMMITMENT
FROM THE PREVIOUS ZONING THAT
WERE UNCHANGED BY THE ACTION
TONIGHT.
IT INCORPORATED ANY OF THE
FOLLOWING MATERIALS, BRICK
TRADITIONAL OR SYNTHETIC STUCCO
FLIP FACE OR CONCRETE MASONRY,
HARDY PLANK, OTHER FIBER, CEMENT
SIDING.
VINYL, GLASS, METAL PANELS.
>> LET ME COME BACK TO THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE MOTIO
BUT I SPECIFICALLY WAS TOLD THE
BUILDING WOULD BE BRICK.
>> SAME HERE.
>> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS
A PART OF THE.
>> LET ME GET THAT INCLUDED.
>> THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT FROM THE CITY
ATTORNEY.
HOW DO WE DO THIS SINCE WE HAVE
TAKEN A VOTE ON IT?
>> THE MOVER WOULD NEED --
ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED IN
FAVOR OF IT WOULD NEED TO
RESCIND THE VOTE AND YOU CAN
VOTE, MOVE AGAIN.
>> I WOULD ASK THE MAKER OF THE
MOTION AND SECONDER OF THE
MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE ACTION
THAT WE JUST TOOK.
>> MOTION TO RECONSIDER,
MR. MAYOR.
>> PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
CAN YOU CLOSE IT?
IT'S A RECONSIDERATION.
YOU WANT ME TO DO IT AGAIN?
CAN YOU OPEN THE VOTE, PLEASE?
CLOSE THE VOTE?
>> IT PASSES 7-0.
>> NOW, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE
QUESTION THAT IS RAISED IN TERMS
OF THE TYPE OF THE MATERIAL TO
BE USED ON THE BUILDING
SPECIFICALLY DEVELOP.
>> YES, MAYOR BELL, MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL, ON BEHALF OF MURPHY
U.S.A., WE WILL AMEND THE DESIGN
COMMITMENT TO STATE THAT THE
WILL BE WITH THE XEMZ OF
WINDOWS, DOOR, TRIM TO BE BRICK
EXTERIOR ON ALL FOUR WALLS?
>> WHY NOT THE DOORS ON?
>> I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
>> STAFF HAVE THAT?
>> WE WILL E-MAIL IT TO STAFF IN
THE MORNING.
>> ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE
ITEM.
MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> IT PASSES 5-2 WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER CATOTTI VOTING NO AND
COUNCIL MEMBER MOFFITT VOTING
NO.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MOVE TO ITEM 26, NORTH LA
SALLE STREET.
STREET CLOSING 000003.
>> GOOD EVENING, PAT YOUNG WITH
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SC 1300003 IS A REQUEST TO CLOS
150 LINEAR FOOT SEGMENT OF NORTH
LA SALLE.
THIS IS AN OPEN RIGHT-OF-WAY
USED FOR MANY YEARS AS APARTMENT
BUILDING FOR THE ADJACENT
BUILDING.
SHEETS INCORPORATED IS PROPOSING
UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY FOR
PARKING INSIDE ACCESS TO
CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS
STATION UNDER SITE PLAN REVIEW
CURRENTLY BY PLANNING DEPARTMEN
AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
CITY AGENCIES NORTH CAROLINA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND
UTILITY SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE
VETRUED THIS PROPOSAL AND NO
SERVICE, DELIVERY OR OTHER
IMPACTS WERE IDENTIFIED.
THANK YOU, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> AGAIN THIS IS A TUBL.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, ARE
THERE QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS OF
THE COUNCIL FIRST ON THIS STAFF
REPORT?
IF NOT, ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO
SPEAK.
A PROPOSEN, JAMIE GEARHART.
ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK?
IF NOT, MS. GEARHART, YOU HAVE
THREE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS JAMIE
GEARHART.
I WORKED FOR SHEETS INCORPORATE
AND A NEW RESIDENT OF THE CITY
OF DURHAM.
WE MOVED THIS SUMMER, 4605
SYCAMORE SHULLS ROAD DURHAM.
I AGREE WITH STAFF'S REPORT AND
SUPPORT OF THE ACTION ITEM.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON
BEHALF OF SHEETS OR THE
APPLICANT.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENT?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK?
IF NOT, LET THE RECORD REFLECT
NO ONE ASKED TO SPEAK.
THE ITEM IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> THANK YOU.
WELCOME TO DURHAM.
LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 4, WHICH WAS
PULLED, MAYOR PRO TEM.
4. WORKFORCE INVESTMENT ACT
YOUTH CONTRACT WITH COMMUNITY
PARTNERSHIPS, INC.
>> YEAH, I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, I
THINK THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT
WANTED TO A FIRM OUTSIDE OF
DURHAM.
IS THAT CORRECT?
I THINK THERE ARE LIKE ONE-HALF
PORT RATING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE FIRM -- IS THIS THE CONTRACT
THAT OPERATION BREAKTHROUGH WAS
ALSO IN?
>> THAT IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF
DURHAM.
>> OK.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE
RIGHT ONE.
HERE IT IS.
$175,000.
PLEASE -- I JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAND.
THE SMALL MARGIN BETWEEN THE
RATINGS, HALF A POINT FOR A FIRM
IN DURHAM AND ONE IN RALEIGH AN
RALEIGH GETS IT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M
SAYING?
THE RATING SYSTEM.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT FIRM
GOT THE CONTRACT RATHER THAN A
LOCAL FIRM?
>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL HONEYCUTT
I'M THE SENIOR MANAGER OF
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
THE RFP WAS REVIEWED BY MEMBERS
OF THE DURHAM WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
WHO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET
WITH THE PROVIDERS TO ASK
QUESTIONS, TO REVIEW PROPOSALS.
THE YOUTH COMMISSION REVIEWED
THE PROPOSALS, MADE A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND
THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD
MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE
AWARDING OF THE CONTRACT.
>> I'M AWARE OF THAT.
I JUST WONDERED WHY.
>> WELL --
>> JUST A MOMENT.
CPR SCHOOL IS OVERALL SCORES 89
OPERATION BREAK THREE WAS 88.25.
OPERATION BREAKTHROUGH IS LOCAL
CPI IS NOT.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW
[INDISCERNIBLE] IS GETTING THIS
AWARD.
>> MAY I?
CPI HAS BEEN THE PROVIDER FOR
THE PAST THREE YEARS.
THEY HAVE MET AND EXCEEDED ALL
MEASUREMENT GOALS, AND WHILE I'M
NOT A VOTING MEMBER OF THE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD, I
BELIEVE THAT WAS A GOOD PART OF
THEIR DECISION THAT THE PROVIDER
HAS MET AND EXCEEDED THE STATED
PERFORMANCE GOALS THAT ARE
MANDATED BY THE STATE AND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
>> HOW DO YOU MENTOR LOCAL FIRM
SO THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THIS BUSINESS?
IN THIS SETTING?
HOW CAN WE -- JUST THINK ABOUT
THAT.
BUT WE NEED TO DO, I THINK, A
BETTER JOB OF EMBRACING OUR OWN
CRACKERS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
>> MR. MAYOR?
I WAS AT THE DURHAM WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT MEETING MADAM MAYOR
PRO TEM WHERE THIS WAS
DISCUSSED.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT
THIS, THIS IS ONLY A SIX-MONTH
CONTRACT, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE
WOULD HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY
AND ANOTHER -- THERE IS MORE
SCORING IN THE FUTURE FOR THIS
SAME CONTRACT; IS THAT TRUE, IN
THE NEAR FUTURE?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK, CORA, AT THE MEETING,
THERE WAS SOME FEELING LET'S GO
AHEAD KEEP THIS CONTRACT WITH
THE SAME GROUP FOR THE NEXT SIX
MONTHS, KEEP THE CONTINUITY AND
THEN BIDDING IT OUT FOR THE
LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
THAT IS THE THINKING OF THE
GROUP.
>> IS THIS A SIX-MONTH CONTRACT.
>> THIS IS A SIX-MONTH CONTRACT?
>> YES, IT IS.
>> BEGINNING WHEN?
I'M SURE IT IS RIGHT BEFORE ME.
>> JANUARY.
>> MR. MAYOR [INDISCERNIBLE]
THAT IS STILL NO CONSOLATION TO
ME.
BUSINESS FOR DURHAM IS BUSINESS
FOR DURHAM SEWN I'M NOT
DISAGREEING WITH YOUR POINT, I
DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A
SIX-MONTH CONTRACT.
>> JANUARY TO JUNE.
>> IT IS FOR THE RENEWAL --
>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE NOW,
RENEWAL FOR SIX MONTHS?
>> I'M JAMES VICKENS FOR THE
OFFICE PROGRAM KOORDINATOR.
IT IS A SIX-MONTH CONTRACT WITH
THE OPTION TO RENEW UP TO TWO
YEARS.
WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GO BACK
TO THE RFP AFTER SIX MONTHS
UNLESS THE CONTRACT ISN'T
PERFORMING WELL.
ALSO WITH THE SIX-MONTH CONTRACT
BECAUSE WE EXTENDED -- THE STATE
ACTUALLY REQUIRED US TO EXTEND
THE LAST CONTRACT FOR AN
ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS BECAUSE W
HAVE A NEW REPORTING SYSTEM THAT
STARTED IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
>> WELL, I GUESS I NEED
CLARIFICATION.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF SAYING
IT IS A SIX-MONTH RENEWAL AND
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BID
IT IS AGAIN.
IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING YOU
SAY?
>> RIGHT, THE FEDERAL GUIDELINE
THAT THE WIA FALLS UNDER DOESN'
REQUIRE US TO GO OUT TO RFP BUT
EVERY THREE YEARS.
SO SINCE WE JUST HAD AN RFP,
WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT
AGAIN UNTIL THREE YEARS.
HOWEVER, WE CAN DECIDE OR THE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD,
CITY COUNCIL CAN DECIDE TO
REQUEST AN RFP AT THE END OF SI
MONTHS OR WE CAN WAIT FOR AN
ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS.
WE USUALLY DO THAT BASED ON
PERFORMANCE, THOUGH.
>> SO YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF
DOING AN RFP.
>> YES, SIR.
>> WHAT PREROGATIVE DO YOU THINK
THE BOARD WILL HAVE.
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN
SHY'S PROCESS.
BY LOOKING AT IT DO YOU GO OUT
FOR ANOTHER BID OR LOOK AT HOW
THEY'RE PERFORMING?
>> GENERALLY, WE BASE IT OFF OF
PERFORMANCE.
>> THE MAYOR PRO TEM RAISED THE
QUESTION.
I, FOR A RATING THAT CLOSE, I'M
HARD PRESSED TO SEE WHY WE
WOULDN'T LEAN TOWARDS A LOCAL
FIRM.
BUT I CAN FEEL MORE COMFORT IF
YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WILL REBID IT
IN SIX MONTHS.
IF YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO DO IT,
SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT WILL NO
HAPPEN.
RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN SCHEWEL AND
COUNCILWOMAN CATOTTI.
>> THE OTHER ISSUE RAISED,
MR. MAYOR WAS, AS I REMEMBER, I
THE MEETING WAS THE ISSUE OF A
RECENT AUDIT OF THE OTHER
APPLICANT.
I KNOW THAT THAT HAD A BIG
AFFECT ON THE PEOPLE VOTING ON
THIS AS WELL.
JUST WITH INFORMATION THE BOARD
GOT AFTER THE SCORING.
SO I THINK THAT WAS THE OTHER
THING -- AS I REMEMBER,
OBVIOUSLY I HAVEN'T GOT MY
RECOLLECTION RIGHT ON THE FIRST
THING.
AS I REMEMBER, THAT WAS THE
OTHER BIG ITEM OF DISCUSSION.
>> COUNCILWOMAN CATOTTI.
I WAS ALSO AT THE WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING AND I
DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT AS A BOARD WE HAD MORE
INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US.
I BELIEVE THE CRACKS WERE
COMPARED ON HOW THEY WOULD BE
ADMINISTERED AND STAFFING.
THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO
CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT
PROVIDER AND THE COMPETITOR IN
THIS CASE, OPERATION
BREAKTHROUGH WAS GOING TO USE A
DIFFERENT MODEL SUCH THAT THEY
USE INTERNS EVERY SIX MONTHS AN
CONCERNS ABOUT CONTINUITY,
TRAINING, WORK WITH THE YOUTH.
THERE WAS A WHOLE HOST OF STUFF
THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT MAKE THE
CURRENT APPLICANT STRONGER.
AND THAT WAS THE BOARD'S
RECOMMENDATION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
THERE IS A LOT MORE BACKGROUND
INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED.
THAT WAS SHARED.
>> RECOGNIZE MAYOR PRO TEM.
>> I STILL HAVE THE SAME
QUESTION.
THEN HOW DOWE MENTOR LOCAL
COMPANIES TO DO BUSINESS WITH
THE CITY THAT HAS -- YOU'RE
DEALING WITH TRAINING AND
DEVELOPMENT.
SO I KNOW THERE MUST BE SOME
MODEL THAT SOME CITY IS USING
SOMEWHERE TO HELP LOCAL BUSINES
THAT IS A CONCERN I HAVE AND I
WILL ALWAYS HAVE.
THERE WILL BE NO OPPORTUNITY FO
OPERATION BREAKTHROUGH TO GET
THE KIND OF TRAINING THAT THEY
NEED.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE THAT INTERN
WILL WORK, COULD WORK.
THEY WORK IN PLANNING.
THEY WORK IN OTHER PLACES IN
CITY GOVERNMENT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE T
THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
IF THAT IS GOING TO HELP US WIT
LOCAL BUSINESS FURTHER COMMENTS
ON THIS ITEM?
I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT MORE
ABOUT HOW THE PROJECT IS
PROGRESSING CLOETSER INTO THE
SIX-MONTH PERIOD.
I REALLY THINK THAT IT IS
UNFORTUNATE TO OPERATION
BREAKTHROUGH ISN'T HERE TO SPEAK
TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS RAISED.
I GUESS WE CAN TRY TO FIND OUT
ANSWERS ABOUT THAT.
WERE THEY WARE -- WERE THEY
NOTIFIED?
>> YES, WE MET WITH THEM.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE].
>> ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER ITEMS -- ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS ON THIS?
IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON
THE ITEM.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS ALONE
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOT BOTH
PEOPLE HERE.
IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND
SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> IT PASSES 6-0 WITH WHO
ABSTAINED?
>> I'M SORRY.
I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON.
ARE YOU VOTING NO.
>> I AM VOTING INFORMED H-O.
>> IT PASSES 6-1 WITH COUNCIL
MEMBERS COLE-McFADDEN VOTING NO.
>> LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 10, ON THE
CONSENT AGENDA.
FINANCIAL CRIMES TASK FORCE
GRANT.
VICTORIA PETERSON.
ITEM 10.
YOU HAVE 10 AND 11.
SPEAK ON 10, FIRST.
>> I'M SURE I'M GOING TO GET
THREE MINUTES, MR. MAYOR.
I THINK THE OTHER FOLKS DID.
>> AT THIS LATE, I WILL DETER.
YOU CAN HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> I WOULD JUST SORT OF LIKE TO,
AND MR. MAYOR, THERE ARE SOME
REASONS WHY SOME OF US ARE A
LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
LEADERSHIP IN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT
VERY FEW OF YOU MAY KNOW THIS.
IT IS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A
AN ACTIVIST IN THIS COMMUNITY,
THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME OFFICERS
TO GO INTO PERSON'S HOMES AND
TAKE OUT MONIES AND CLAIM THAT
THOSE DOLLARS WERE RAISED
BECAUSE OF DRUGS.
WE HAVE NUMBER 10 AS MONIES THA
WILL COME FROM THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY, $23,000.
AN ADDITIONAL $3,000 AND 800 TO
USE TO MONITOR AND WATCH OVER
DRUG MONIES, LOTTERY MONIES,
CORRUPT MONIES, BASICALLY.
AND I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
THAT.
MATTER OF FACT, THIS EVENING, I
WAS OUTSIDE TALKING TO ANOTHER
GENTLEMAN ON THIS SAME ISSUE.
THAT THERE ARE OTHER PERSONS IN
THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN
COMPLAINING THAT OFFICERS -- NOT
ALL THE OFFICERS, BECAUSE WE DO
HAVE SOME VERY, VERY GOOD POLICE
OFFICERS IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
PARTICULARLY THE OLDER ONES.
THOSE FEW THAT ARE STANDING OVE
THERE, I CONSIDER THEM OLDER
OFFICERS THAT ARE VERY MATURE
AND KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT WE ARE HAVING SOME CONCERNS
ABOUT SOME OF OUR YOUNGER
OFFICERS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE
COUNCIL, AND MR. BONFIELD, CAN
WE PLEASE GET A REPORT OF THE
DRUG MONIES, THE SO-CALLED DRUG
MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN LABELED
THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS
GOTTEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS
WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THOSE
DOLLARS?
AND WHY CAN'T SOME OF THOSE
DOLLARS BE USED FOR THIS
FINANCIAL CRIME TASK FORCE?
BECAUSE SOME OF US DO HAVE -- I
WAS ALSO TOLD THAT SOMETIMES,
MR. MAYOR, THESE DRUG DOLLARS
ARE SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP IN THE
COURTHOUSE AND THEY'RE NOT
SHOWING UP.
SO HERE YOU HAVE CRIMES OR
PERSONS BEING ARRESTED FOR
CERTAIN CRIMES BUT THE DRUG
MONIES ARE NOT THERE.
SO MY QUESTION FIRST.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET A REPORT
BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS, WHAT'S
HAPPENING TO THE DRUG MONIES
THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING THAT'
COMING IN WHEN YOU GO INTO
PERSON'S HOMES THEY HAVE FIVE OR
SIX THOUSAND AND SOMEBODY
QUESTIONED WHY DO YOU HAVE THIS
KIND OF MONEY IN YOUR HOME AND
YOU'RE CLEARING AND CLAIMING
THESE ARE DRUG MONEY AND TAKING
THOSE DOLLARS AND NOT GIVING
THOSE DOLLARS BACK TO THE
RESIDENTS AND TO THOSE FAMILIES.
THAT IS GOING ON IN DURHAM
BECAUSE I HAVE NOT HEARD IT JUS
ONE TIME, MR. MAYOR.
I'VE HEARD IT SEVERAL TIMES.
SO, MY QUESTION HERE IS: WHY IS
THAT THAT WE'RE GIVING THESE
FOLKS AN ADDITIONAL $3,000, WHY
CAN'T THEY USE SOME OF YOUR DRU
MONIES THAT YOU ARE ALREADY
BRINGING INTO -- THAT YOU ARE
ALREADY GETTING INTO THE
COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU.
MS. PETERSON.
I THINK THE MANAGER HEARD YOUR
COMMENTS.
I SUGGEST, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE
MAKING THE ACCUSATIONS, THEY
OUGHT TO BRING IT FORTH.
NOT LET IT BE HEARSAY.
THEY SHOULD BRING IT FORTH.
THE CITY MANAGER IS HERE.
I'M NOT ASKING NOW, IF YOU HAVE
PEOPLE THEY NEED TO BRING THAT
INFORMATION FORTH.
WE CAN'T ACT ON HEARSAY.
>> I WAS TOLD --
>> I'M JUST SAYING.
>> WENT TO MR. BAKER ABOUT IT.
>> TAKE THAT OFFLINE, SPEAK TO
THE CITY MANAGER, THAT IS WHAT I
HAVE BEEN TOLD.
>> I'M SAYING SPEAK TO THE CITY
MANAGER ABOUT THAT.
>> I DO WANT -- I THINK YOU NEE
TO KNOW ABOUT IT, THOUGH.
>> WE APPRECIATE THAT.
>> OK.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON
THIS ITEM?
MOVED AND SECONDED.
OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> THE NEXT ITEM MS. PETERSON
11. AMENDMENT TO FITNESS MEDICAL
RISK TRAINING (FMRT) CONTRACT
FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES
>> YES, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE TWO
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
FIRST THING, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE
SOMEBODY OR YOU HAVE HIRED A
FIRM.
TO DEAL WITH SOME CYC -- SOME
COUNSELING FOR OFFICERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, TO TAKE
THIS FURTHER, MY UNDERSTANDING
DEALING WITH MR. WALKER --
DARREN WALKER THAT WAS SHOT A
FEW WEEKS AGO, I HAVE HEARD THI
FROM POLICE OFFICERS.
BECAUSE I'VE ASKED THEM.
I HAVE A CRIMINAL JUSTICE
BACKGROUND AND I KNOW HOW TO AS
QUESTIONS.
I ASKED THEM WHO IS YOUR
LICENSED PSYCHIATRIST IN THE
DEPARTMENT?
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE
DEPARTMENT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF
YOUR OFFICERS MAY NEED
COUNSELING, MAY NEED SOME
PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION, BUT I
ALSO -- I THINK SOME DOLLARS
NEED TO BE SET ASIDE TO BRING O
A PSYCHIATRIST.
WHEN YOU HAVE SITUATIONS WHEN A
YOUNG MAN OR YOUNG WOMAN IS
HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN AND
YOU STAND OUT THERE IN THE
PUBLIC FOR ONE HOUR AND YOU TAL
TO THEM BUT YOU DON'T BRING A
LICENSED DOCTOR, A LICENSED
PSYCHIATRIST, A LICENSED PERSON
WHO HAS YEARS OF TRAINING TO
TALK TO THAT INDIVIDUAL, BUT
THEN SOMEBODY CAN SHOOT THAT
PERSON DOWN BECAUSE HE'S WAVING
A GUN, WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS IN
THIS COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT.
SO THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO
ASK MR. MAYOR, AND THE CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO ALLOW TO ADD
TO THE MORE MONIES TO THIS SO
THAT THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN
HIRE A LICENSED PSYCHIATRIST.
THAT WHEN WE HAVE A CRISIS IN
THIS COMMUNITY LIKE WE HAD WITH
MR. WALKER A FEW WEEKS AGO, THA
THAT PSYCHIATRIST CAN COME IN
AND SPEAK TO THAT -- CAN GO DOW
AND SPEAK TO THAT INDIVIDUAL.
SINCE WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THE
FAMILY MEMBERS, MY
UNDERSTANDING, HIS FAMILY
MEMBERS TRIED TO GO DOWN AND
TALK TO HIM.
MY UNDERSTANDING THE PASTOR WAS
ASKED TO GO DOWN AND TALK TO
HIM, MR. MAYOR.
NONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE
ALLOWED TO TALK TO THIS
INDIVIDUAL MR. DAVIS WHO WAS
HAVING MENTAL ILLNESS, HAVING A
MENTAL BREAKDOWN PUBLICLY.
BUT WHAT WE DO, IT WASN'T JUST
THAT POLICE OFFICERS, WE AS A
COMMUNITY, WE'RE NOT MAKING SUR
THE EQUIPMENT, MATERIAL AND
RIGHT PERSONNEL THEY NEED TO
HAVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LICENSED
PSYCHIATRIST, THAT IS CERTIFIED,
BOARD-CERTIFIED.
[BEEP]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
THANK YOU, YOU'RE COMMENTS WILL
BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE ITEM.
PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MADAM CLERK, OPEN THE VOTE.
CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> PASSES 7-0.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER ITEMS TO COME BEFORE
THE COUNCIL BEFORE WE ADJOURN?
IF NOT, THE COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED
AT 10:22 P.M.
THANK YOU.