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WITH PAT AND BRUCE WHITE, PERFORMING ARTISTS, TEACHERS AND MOTIVATORS.
PERFORMING ARTISTS, TEACHERS AND MOTIVATORS. >>OKAY, SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
MOTIVATORS. >>OKAY, SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR CAREERS, AND MORE
>>OKAY, SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR CAREERS, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, LET ME ASK YOU,
YOUR CAREERS, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, LET ME ASK YOU, PAT, YOU HAD 11, AT LEAST 11
SPECIFICALLY, LET ME ASK YOU, PAT, YOU HAD 11, AT LEAST 11 LEAGUED ROLES.
PAT, YOU HAD 11, AT LEAST 11 LEAGUED ROLES. >>I DO BELIEVE SO.
LEAGUED ROLES. >>I DO BELIEVE SO. >>AND YOUR FAVORITE WAS?
>>I DO BELIEVE SO. >>AND YOUR FAVORITE WAS? >> OH, THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION,
>>AND YOUR FAVORITE WAS? >> OH, THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, HE HAD!
>> OH, THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, HE HAD! THEY ARE ALL MY FAVORITE AT THE
HE HAD! THEY ARE ALL MY FAVORITE AT THE TIME BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE
THEY ARE ALL MY FAVORITE AT THE TIME BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THAT KIND OF
TIME BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY, YOU LOVE THE PEOPLE
INVOLVED IN THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY, YOU LOVE THE PEOPLE IN THE SHOW THAT YOU ARE ARE
COMMUNITY, YOU LOVE THE PEOPLE IN THE SHOW THAT YOU ARE ARE WORKING WITH, YOU LOVE THE
IN THE SHOW THAT YOU ARE ARE WORKING WITH, YOU LOVE THE VEHICLE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING
WORKING WITH, YOU LOVE THE VEHICLE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO DO.
VEHICLE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO DO. >>BRUCE, EXCUSE ME, IS THAT THE
YOU WANTED TO DO. >>BRUCE, EXCUSE ME, IS THAT THE WAY IT IS!
>>BRUCE, EXCUSE ME, IS THAT THE WAY IT IS! (LAUGHING).
WAY IT IS! (LAUGHING). >>(LAUGHING) IS HE GIVING YOU
(LAUGHING). >>(LAUGHING) IS HE GIVING YOU EYES.
>>(LAUGHING) IS HE GIVING YOU EYES. >>YOU CAN'T GET THAT ANSWER.
EYES. >>YOU CAN'T GET THAT ANSWER. >>I DON'T DARE INTERRUPT.
>>YOU CAN'T GET THAT ANSWER. >>I DON'T DARE INTERRUPT. >>THE FAVORITE?
>>I DON'T DARE INTERRUPT. >>THE FAVORITE? >> "UNSINKABLE MOLLY BROWN."
>>THE FAVORITE? >> "UNSINKABLE MOLLY BROWN." >>WHY?
>> "UNSINKABLE MOLLY BROWN." >>WHY? >> I WAS AT THE RIGHT AGE, AND
>>WHY? >> I WAS AT THE RIGHT AGE, AND SO EVERYTHING WORKED REAL WELL.
>> I WAS AT THE RIGHT AGE, AND SO EVERYTHING WORKED REAL WELL. >>YOU HAD A WONDERFUL CO STAR.
SO EVERYTHING WORKED REAL WELL. >>YOU HAD A WONDERFUL CO STAR. >>I HAD A WONDERFUL CO STAR,
>>YOU HAD A WONDERFUL CO STAR. >>I HAD A WONDERFUL CO STAR, JERRY JOHNSON.
>>I HAD A WONDERFUL CO STAR, JERRY JOHNSON. >>BIG SETS, I MUST HAVE HAD 18
JERRY JOHNSON. >>BIG SETS, I MUST HAVE HAD 18 COSTUMES BEAUTIFULLY HANDMADE
>>BIG SETS, I MUST HAVE HAD 18 COSTUMES BEAUTIFULLY HANDMADE FOR ME.
COSTUMES BEAUTIFULLY HANDMADE FOR ME. I FELT REALLY AT THE TOP OF MY
FOR ME. I FELT REALLY AT THE TOP OF MY GAME AT THAT POINT.
I FELT REALLY AT THE TOP OF MY GAME AT THAT POINT. I THINK "UNSUNKABLE MOLLY BROWN.
GAME AT THAT POINT. I THINK "UNSUNKABLE MOLLY BROWN. ".
I THINK "UNSUNKABLE MOLLY BROWN. ". >>BRUCE, THE RADIO SHOW, AKIN TO
". >>BRUCE, THE RADIO SHOW, AKIN TO OZZIE AND HARRIET.
>>BRUCE, THE RADIO SHOW, AKIN TO OZZIE AND HARRIET. >>GOLDEN DAYS OF RADIO.
OZZIE AND HARRIET. >>GOLDEN DAYS OF RADIO. WE STARTED AT -- BACK IN THE
>>GOLDEN DAYS OF RADIO. WE STARTED AT -- BACK IN THE 80'S INITIAL TY AS A PROJECT TO
WE STARTED AT -- BACK IN THE 80'S INITIAL TY AS A PROJECT TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE PEORIA
80'S INITIAL TY AS A PROJECT TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE PEORIA COMEDY CENTER IT BECAME KNOWN,
RAISE FUNDS FOR THE PEORIA COMEDY CENTER IT BECAME KNOWN, IT ORIGINALLY WAS THE MANY
COMEDY CENTER IT BECAME KNOWN, IT ORIGINALLY WAS THE MANY PEORIA HALL OF FAME.
IT ORIGINALLY WAS THE MANY PEORIA HALL OF FAME. BUT WE FOUND OUT SOMEBODY HAD
PEORIA HALL OF FAME. BUT WE FOUND OUT SOMEBODY HAD THAT CITY.
BUT WE FOUND OUT SOMEBODY HAD THAT CITY. >>WHERE?
THAT CITY. >>WHERE? >> SARASOTA, FLORIDA.
>>WHERE? >> SARASOTA, FLORIDA. >>WE TALKED WITH OUR FRIENDS,
>> SARASOTA, FLORIDA. >>WE TALKED WITH OUR FRIENDS, ACTORS, DIRECTORS, DON'T YOU
>>WE TALKED WITH OUR FRIENDS, ACTORS, DIRECTORS, DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TO
ACTORS, DIRECTORS, DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TO RECREATE AN ORIGINAL RADIO SHOW,
THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TO RECREATE AN ORIGINAL RADIO SHOW, AND HAVE PEOPLE DOING ACTUAL
RECREATE AN ORIGINAL RADIO SHOW, AND HAVE PEOPLE DOING ACTUAL RADIO SCRIPTS.
AND HAVE PEOPLE DOING ACTUAL RADIO SCRIPTS. AS IT TURNS OUT, THERE WERE
RADIO SCRIPTS. AS IT TURNS OUT, THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM THE
AS IT TURNS OUT, THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO WERE INVOLVED IN
SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE OLD DAYS OF RADIO.
COMMUNITY WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE OLD DAYS OF RADIO. ONE OF THE LADIES, MARION
THE OLD DAYS OF RADIO. ONE OF THE LADIES, MARION PUTNAM, WAS ON THE AIR, MAJOR
ONE OF THE LADIES, MARION PUTNAM, WAS ON THE AIR, MAJOR NETWORK, IN THE EARLY YEARS,
PUTNAM, WAS ON THE AIR, MAJOR NETWORK, IN THE EARLY YEARS, PAUL CARNAG.
NETWORK, IN THE EARLY YEARS, PAUL CARNAG. IE, WAS THE SOUND EFFECT, HE WAS
PAUL CARNAG. IE, WAS THE SOUND EFFECT, HE WAS ON THE "LONE RANGER" SHOW.
IE, WAS THE SOUND EFFECT, HE WAS ON THE "LONE RANGER" SHOW. >>AND THIS STARTED HERE.
ON THE "LONE RANGER" SHOW. >>AND THIS STARTED HERE. >>YES.
>>AND THIS STARTED HERE. >>YES. >>SOME OF THE AND AT THE SEE
>>YES. >>SOME OF THE AND AT THE SEE DEBTS.
>>SOME OF THE AND AT THE SEE DEBTS. >>FIBBER MAGEE.
DEBTS. >>FIBBER MAGEE. >>OUR SKITS WAS BASED ON FIBBER
>>FIBBER MAGEE. >>OUR SKITS WAS BASED ON FIBBER MAGEE AND MOLLY.
>>OUR SKITS WAS BASED ON FIBBER MAGEE AND MOLLY. >>HOW LONG DID IT LAST?
MAGEE AND MOLLY. >>HOW LONG DID IT LAST? YOU MEAN HOW MANY TIMES DID WE
>>HOW LONG DID IT LAST? YOU MEAN HOW MANY TIMES DID WE DO GOLDEN DAYS OF RADIO?
YOU MEAN HOW MANY TIMES DID WE DO GOLDEN DAYS OF RADIO? THE SHOW ORIGINALLY AS DESIGNED
DO GOLDEN DAYS OF RADIO? THE SHOW ORIGINALLY AS DESIGNED WAS TWO ACTS, AND IT TOOK AN
THE SHOW ORIGINALLY AS DESIGNED WAS TWO ACTS, AND IT TOOK AN HOUR AND A HAVE. WE REFINED THE
WAS TWO ACTS, AND IT TOOK AN HOUR AND A HAVE. WE REFINED THE SHOW, DROPPED OFF SOME OF THE
HOUR AND A HAVE. WE REFINED THE SHOW, DROPPED OFF SOME OF THE SKETCHES AND CHANGED A FEW
SHOW, DROPPED OFF SOME OF THE SKETCHES AND CHANGED A FEW PEOPLE AROUND SO WE CAN DO IT ON
SKETCHES AND CHANGED A FEW PEOPLE AROUND SO WE CAN DO IT ON THE ROAD EASILY IF ASKED WITH
PEOPLE AROUND SO WE CAN DO IT ON THE ROAD EASILY IF ASKED WITH ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE.
THE ROAD EASILY IF ASKED WITH ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE. >>SO ASIDE FROM WE HAVE TALKED
ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE. >>SO ASIDE FROM WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT PAT'S BACKGROUND LEADING
>>SO ASIDE FROM WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT PAT'S BACKGROUND LEADING ROLES, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN IN CORN
ABOUT PAT'S BACKGROUND LEADING ROLES, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN IN CORN STALK,KCONKLIN.
ROLES, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN IN CORN STALK,KCONKLIN. >>IN MILWAUKEE WISCONSIN.
STALK,KCONKLIN. >>IN MILWAUKEE WISCONSIN. >>YOU WERE IN MILWAUKEE FOR
>>IN MILWAUKEE WISCONSIN. >>YOU WERE IN MILWAUKEE FOR AWHILE.
>>YOU WERE IN MILWAUKEE FOR AWHILE. >>TWO YEARS.
AWHILE. >>TWO YEARS. >>WHAT ABOUT SWITZERLAND?
>>TWO YEARS. >>WHAT ABOUT SWITZERLAND? >> I WAS IN SWITZERLAND.
>>WHAT ABOUT SWITZERLAND? >> I WAS IN SWITZERLAND. WHILE I WAS THERE FROM A
>> I WAS IN SWITZERLAND. WHILE I WAS THERE FROM A THEATRICAL POINT OF VIEW, I DID
WHILE I WAS THERE FROM A THEATRICAL POINT OF VIEW, I DID A COUPLE OF THINGS, READERS
THEATRICAL POINT OF VIEW, I DID A COUPLE OF THINGS, READERS THEATER WITH GENEVA ENGLISH
A COUPLE OF THINGS, READERS THEATER WITH GENEVA ENGLISH DRAMA SOCIETY.
THEATER WITH GENEVA ENGLISH DRAMA SOCIETY. WHICH WAS KIND OF FUN.
DRAMA SOCIETY. WHICH WAS KIND OF FUN. I WAS THEREABOUT EIGHT MONTHS.
WHICH WAS KIND OF FUN. I WAS THEREABOUT EIGHT MONTHS. I HAD A CHANCE TO GET INVOLVED
I WAS THEREABOUT EIGHT MONTHS. I HAD A CHANCE TO GET INVOLVED IN THE THEATERS.
I HAD A CHANCE TO GET INVOLVED IN THE THEATERS. I WAS ONLY 19, 20 YEARS OLD
IN THE THEATERS. I WAS ONLY 19, 20 YEARS OLD THEN.
I WAS ONLY 19, 20 YEARS OLD THEN. >>I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION
THEN. >>I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD ONE, BUT
>>I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD ONE, BUT I WILL ASK ANYWAY.
THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD ONE, BUT I WILL ASK ANYWAY. GIVEN THE TALENT YOU HAVE
I WILL ASK ANYWAY. GIVEN THE TALENT YOU HAVE EXHIBITED AND YOUR BACKGROUND,
GIVEN THE TALENT YOU HAVE EXHIBITED AND YOUR BACKGROUND, WHY NOT BROADWAY?
EXHIBITED AND YOUR BACKGROUND, WHY NOT BROADWAY? WHY NOT CHICAGO?
WHY NOT BROADWAY? WHY NOT CHICAGO? WHY NOT ST. LOUIS?
WHY NOT CHICAGO? WHY NOT ST. LOUIS? >> THAT WAS A DREAM, BUT I THINK
WHY NOT ST. LOUIS? >> THAT WAS A DREAM, BUT I THINK PRACTICALITY ENTERED THE
>> THAT WAS A DREAM, BUT I THINK PRACTICALITY ENTERED THE PICTURE.
PRACTICALITY ENTERED THE PICTURE. WHEN I HAD CHILDREN, I THINK
PICTURE. WHEN I HAD CHILDREN, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO GO IF
WHEN I HAD CHILDREN, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO GO IF YOU ARE SINGLE AND, YOU KNOW, ON
THAT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO GO IF YOU ARE SINGLE AND, YOU KNOW, ON THE ROAD AND CAN DO LOTS OF
YOU ARE SINGLE AND, YOU KNOW, ON THE ROAD AND CAN DO LOTS OF THINGS.
THE ROAD AND CAN DO LOTS OF THINGS. BUT WHEN WE MARRIED, WE HAD A
THINGS. BUT WHEN WE MARRIED, WE HAD A FAMILY, AND IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM
BUT WHEN WE MARRIED, WE HAD A FAMILY, AND IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT AT THAT TIME TO DRAG A
FAMILY, AND IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT AT THAT TIME TO DRAG A LITTLE BABY AROUND LOOKING FOR
RIGHT AT THAT TIME TO DRAG A LITTLE BABY AROUND LOOKING FOR ROLES IN PROFESSIONAL THEATER.
LITTLE BABY AROUND LOOKING FOR ROLES IN PROFESSIONAL THEATER. WE FEEL WE GOT THE BEST OF BOTH
ROLES IN PROFESSIONAL THEATER. WE FEEL WE GOT THE BEST OF BOTH POSSIBLE WORDS.
WE FEEL WE GOT THE BEST OF BOTH POSSIBLE WORDS. WE COULD BE -- YOU KNOW, DO
POSSIBLE WORDS. WE COULD BE -- YOU KNOW, DO CELEBRITY ROLES IN PEORIA,
WE COULD BE -- YOU KNOW, DO CELEBRITY ROLES IN PEORIA, WHEREAS IF WE WENT TO NEW YORK,
CELEBRITY ROLES IN PEORIA, WHEREAS IF WE WENT TO NEW YORK, WE MIGHT ALWAYS JUST BE IN THE
WHEREAS IF WE WENT TO NEW YORK, WE MIGHT ALWAYS JUST BE IN THE CHORUS.
WE MIGHT ALWAYS JUST BE IN THE CHORUS. >>EDUCATION, BOTH ILLINOIS
CHORUS. >>EDUCATION, BOTH ILLINOIS WESLEYAN, FINE ARTS.
>>EDUCATION, BOTH ILLINOIS WESLEYAN, FINE ARTS. >> BACHELOR OF FINE ARTS.
WESLEYAN, FINE ARTS. >> BACHELOR OF FINE ARTS. >>WHILE THERE, BRUCE AND PAT,
>> BACHELOR OF FINE ARTS. >>WHILE THERE, BRUCE AND PAT, PERHAPS TEN PRODUCTIONS?
>>WHILE THERE, BRUCE AND PAT, PERHAPS TEN PRODUCTIONS? >> AT LEAST.
PERHAPS TEN PRODUCTIONS? >> AT LEAST. "SOCCER STOCK" WHICH THEY DON'T
>> AT LEAST. "SOCCER STOCK" WHICH THEY DON'T DO ANY MORE.
"SOCCER STOCK" WHICH THEY DON'T DO ANY MORE. IT WAS A WONDERFUL TRAINING
DO ANY MORE. IT WAS A WONDERFUL TRAINING GROUND.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL TRAINING GROUND. YOU DIDN'T HAVE CLASSES THAT GOT
GROUND. YOU DIDN'T HAVE CLASSES THAT GOT IN THE THE WAY.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE CLASSES THAT GOT IN THE THE WAY. YOU COULD DEVOTE THE WHOLE
IN THE THE WAY. YOU COULD DEVOTE THE WHOLE SUMMER OR EIGHT WEEKS IN THE
YOU COULD DEVOTE THE WHOLE SUMMER OR EIGHT WEEKS IN THE SUMMER JUST FOR THEE TEMPLET YOU
SUMMER OR EIGHT WEEKS IN THE SUMMER JUST FOR THEE TEMPLET YOU GOT A ROLL, BUT YOU ALSO WORKED
SUMMER JUST FOR THEE TEMPLET YOU GOT A ROLL, BUT YOU ALSO WORKED LIGHTS, YOU BUILT SETS AND MADE
GOT A ROLL, BUT YOU ALSO WORKED LIGHTS, YOU BUILT SETS AND MADE COSTUMES.
LIGHTS, YOU BUILT SETS AND MADE COSTUMES. YOU REALLY FELT THE ENTIRE REALM
COSTUMES. YOU REALLY FELT THE ENTIRE REALM OF THEATER ARTS WHEN YOU DID
YOU REALLY FELT THE ENTIRE REALM OF THEATER ARTS WHEN YOU DID SUMMER STOCK.
OF THEATER ARTS WHEN YOU DID SUMMER STOCK. >>MASTER'S DEGREE AT BRADLEY.
SUMMER STOCK. >>MASTER'S DEGREE AT BRADLEY. >>I DECIDED TO BE A TEACH.
>>MASTER'S DEGREE AT BRADLEY. >>I DECIDED TO BE A TEACH. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD
>>I DECIDED TO BE A TEACH. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OCCUPATION WITH MY TWO CHILDREN
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OCCUPATION WITH MY TWO CHILDREN THAT I WOULD HAVE THE SAME
OCCUPATION WITH MY TWO CHILDREN THAT I WOULD HAVE THE SAME VACATIONS AS THEY DO, PLUS I
THAT I WOULD HAVE THE SAME VACATIONS AS THEY DO, PLUS I LOVE KIDS.
VACATIONS AS THEY DO, PLUS I LOVE KIDS. I LIKE WORKING WITH CHILDREN.
LOVE KIDS. I LIKE WORKING WITH CHILDREN. SO I WENT BACK TO ICC AT FIRST
I LIKE WORKING WITH CHILDREN. SO I WENT BACK TO ICC AT FIRST AND THEN I GOT MY MASTER'S
SO I WENT BACK TO ICC AT FIRST AND THEN I GOT MY MASTER'S DEGREE AND CERTIFICATE AT
AND THEN I GOT MY MASTER'S DEGREE AND CERTIFICATE AT BRADLEY UNIVERSITY.
DEGREE AND CERTIFICATE AT BRADLEY UNIVERSITY. >>IT IS NOT JUST THE ARTS THAT
BRADLEY UNIVERSITY. >>IT IS NOT JUST THE ARTS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU
>>IT IS NOT JUST THE ARTS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU HAVE ALSO EXPRESSED INTEREST IN
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU HAVE ALSO EXPRESSED INTEREST IN PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION.
HAVE ALSO EXPRESSED INTEREST IN PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION. >>WELL, I WORKED FOR AN AGENCY
PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION. >>WELL, I WORKED FOR AN AGENCY IN ST. LOUIS FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS
>>WELL, I WORKED FOR AN AGENCY IN ST. LOUIS FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS THAT DESIGNED INCENTIVE
IN ST. LOUIS FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS THAT DESIGNED INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, AND WE USED AS A BASIS
THAT DESIGNED INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, AND WE USED AS A BASIS OF THE THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE OF
PROGRAMS, AND WE USED AS A BASIS OF THE THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE OF DESIGN OF INCENTIVE PROGRAMS,
OF THE THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE OF DESIGN OF INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION, BY
DESIGN OF INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION, BY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION, BY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MOTIVATES PEOPLE, AND WE USED A
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MOTIVATES PEOPLE, AND WE USED A LOT OF ABRAHAM MASLOW, AND EARLY
MOTIVATES PEOPLE, AND WE USED A LOT OF ABRAHAM MASLOW, AND EARLY PSYCHOLOGICAL BEHAVIORAL
LOT OF ABRAHAM MASLOW, AND EARLY PSYCHOLOGICAL BEHAVIORAL SCIENTISTS.
PSYCHOLOGICAL BEHAVIORAL SCIENTISTS. >>VANS PACKER?
SCIENTISTS. >>VANS PACKER? >> YES, TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT
>>VANS PACKER? >> YES, TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT REWARDS AND RECOGNITION DRIVE
>> YES, TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT REWARDS AND RECOGNITION DRIVE HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
REWARDS AND RECOGNITION DRIVE HUMAN BEHAVIOR. OUR INCENTIVE CAMPAIGNS THAT
HUMAN BEHAVIOR. OUR INCENTIVE CAMPAIGNS THAT INCLUDED A LOT OF RESEARCH AND
OUR INCENTIVE CAMPAIGNS THAT INCLUDED A LOT OF RESEARCH AND COMMUNICATIONS AND TRAVEL AND
INCLUDED A LOT OF RESEARCH AND COMMUNICATIONS AND TRAVEL AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, I DID IT
COMMUNICATIONS AND TRAVEL AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, I DID IT WITH CATERPILLAR, CONSULTANT
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, I DID IT WITH CATERPILLAR, CONSULTANT THERE, AND STATE FARM, AG
WITH CATERPILLAR, CONSULTANT THERE, AND STATE FARM, AG SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR
THERE, AND STATE FARM, AG SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR CORPORATIONS.
SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR CORPORATIONS. >>HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT NOR
CORPORATIONS. >>HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT NOR MOTIVATION, THIS MAYBE OFF THE
>>HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT NOR MOTIVATION, THIS MAYBE OFF THE TOPIC.
MOTIVATION, THIS MAYBE OFF THE TOPIC. CIGARETTE SMOKING, DIAMONDS, AND
TOPIC. CIGARETTE SMOKING, DIAMONDS, AND MAYBE RELIGION AND MAYBE FEAR.
CIGARETTE SMOKING, DIAMONDS, AND MAYBE RELIGION AND MAYBE FEAR. IN OTHER WORDS, DID YOU DELVE
MAYBE RELIGION AND MAYBE FEAR. IN OTHER WORDS, DID YOU DELVE INTO THOSE ISSUES, SI SNAPS, WHY
IN OTHER WORDS, DID YOU DELVE INTO THOSE ISSUES, SI SNAPS, WHY PEOPLE SEEK RELIGION WHY PEOPLE
INTO THOSE ISSUES, SI SNAPS, WHY PEOPLE SEEK RELIGION WHY PEOPLE BUY DIAMONDS, WHY PEOPLE SMOKE
PEOPLE SEEK RELIGION WHY PEOPLE BUY DIAMONDS, WHY PEOPLE SMOKE CIGARETTES, NOT WITH STANDING
BUY DIAMONDS, WHY PEOPLE SMOKE CIGARETTES, NOT WITH STANDING THE FACT IT IS LETHAL WEAPON
CIGARETTES, NOT WITH STANDING THE FACT IT IS LETHAL WEAPON THAT IT WILL KILL THEM?
THE FACT IT IS LETHAL WEAPON THAT IT WILL KILL THEM? WERE YOU IN THAT?
THAT IT WILL KILL THEM? WERE YOU IN THAT? >> NO NEW YORKS AT ALL.
WERE YOU IN THAT? >> NO NEW YORKS AT ALL. WE WERE USING SOME BASICS OF
>> NO NEW YORKS AT ALL. WE WERE USING SOME BASICS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION TO
WE WERE USING SOME BASICS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION TO PROVE THAT THE HUMAN BEING IS A
PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION TO PROVE THAT THE HUMAN BEING IS A WANTING ANIMAL, ALWAYS WANTS
PROVE THAT THE HUMAN BEING IS A WANTING ANIMAL, ALWAYS WANTS MORE.
WANTING ANIMAL, ALWAYS WANTS MORE. AND DRIVEN TO SHELTER, FOOD AND
MORE. AND DRIVEN TO SHELTER, FOOD AND SECURITY, HE STARTS LOOKING FOR
AND DRIVEN TO SHELTER, FOOD AND SECURITY, HE STARTS LOOKING FOR ON OR ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF
SECURITY, HE STARTS LOOKING FOR ON OR ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF RECOGNITION AND PATS ON THE
ON OR ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF RECOGNITION AND PATS ON THE BACK, WAYS OF BEING SELECTED
RECOGNITION AND PATS ON THE BACK, WAYS OF BEING SELECTED ESTEEMED, HONORED AND
BACK, WAYS OF BEING SELECTED ESTEEMED, HONORED AND RECOGNIZED.
ESTEEMED, HONORED AND RECOGNIZED. >>BEING DIFFERENT.
RECOGNIZED. >>BEING DIFFERENT. THAT COMES WITH SALESPEOPLE WITH
>>BEING DIFFERENT. THAT COMES WITH SALESPEOPLE WITH SELLING MORE!
THAT COMES WITH SALESPEOPLE WITH SELLING MORE! BEING RECOGNIZED FOR BEING THE
SELLING MORE! BEING RECOGNIZED FOR BEING THE BEST SALESPERSON IN YOUR
BEING RECOGNIZED FOR BEING THE BEST SALESPERSON IN YOUR TERRITORY.
BEST SALESPERSON IN YOUR TERRITORY. >>BUT THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THE
TERRITORY. >>BUT THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THE SITUATION -- I AM USING -- LET'S
>>BUT THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THE SITUATION -- I AM USING -- LET'S TALK ABOUT DIAMONDS, WHEN THAT
SITUATION -- I AM USING -- LET'S TALK ABOUT DIAMONDS, WHEN THAT AGENCY DETERMINED THE BEST WAY
TALK ABOUT DIAMONDS, WHEN THAT AGENCY DETERMINED THE BEST WAY OF PROMOTING DIAMONDS WAS TO
AGENCY DETERMINED THE BEST WAY OF PROMOTING DIAMONDS WAS TO PROMOTE THE FACT DIAMONDS ARE
OF PROMOTING DIAMONDS WAS TO PROMOTE THE FACT DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER.
PROMOTE THE FACT DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER. >>AYES WAS THE AD AGENCY.
FOREVER. >>AYES WAS THE AD AGENCY. YOU ARE TEACHING PEOPLE TO WANT,
>>AYES WAS THE AD AGENCY. YOU ARE TEACHING PEOPLE TO WANT, THROUGH JOBS.
YOU ARE TEACHING PEOPLE TO WANT, THROUGH JOBS. HE HAS TAUGHT PEOPLE TO BUY
THROUGH JOBS. HE HAS TAUGHT PEOPLE TO BUY THINGS THEY REALLY DIDN'T NEED.
HE HAS TAUGHT PEOPLE TO BUY THINGS THEY REALLY DIDN'T NEED. >>YEAH.
THINGS THEY REALLY DIDN'T NEED. >>YEAH. >>LET'S GET BACK TO THE
>>YEAH. >>LET'S GET BACK TO THE PERFORMING, THE PERFORMANCE
>>LET'S GET BACK TO THE PERFORMING, THE PERFORMANCE SPECIFICALLY.
PERFORMING, THE PERFORMANCE SPECIFICALLY. I VIEW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SPECIFICALLY. I VIEW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNLOCK YOUR CREATIVITY.
I VIEW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNLOCK YOUR CREATIVITY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EITHER
UNLOCK YOUR CREATIVITY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EITHER OF YOU?
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EITHER OF YOU? >> SURE.
OF YOU? >> SURE. >>IT IS ARTISTIC FUNCTION?
>> SURE. >>IT IS ARTISTIC FUNCTION? WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU
>>IT IS ARTISTIC FUNCTION? WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU ARE ON STAGE VERSUS BEFORE AND
WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU ARE ON STAGE VERSUS BEFORE AND AFTER?
ARE ON STAGE VERSUS BEFORE AND AFTER? >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT
AFTER? >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT BECAUSE WE WERE TRAINED THEATER.
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT BECAUSE WE WERE TRAINED THEATER. THERE ARE THOSE THAT WE WORK
BECAUSE WE WERE TRAINED THEATER. THERE ARE THOSE THAT WE WORK WITH IN COMMUNITY THEATER THAT
THERE ARE THOSE THAT WE WORK WITH IN COMMUNITY THEATER THAT JUST -- THEY LIKE PERFORMING
WITH IN COMMUNITY THEATER THAT JUST -- THEY LIKE PERFORMING AND, OH, ISN'T THIS FUN.
JUST -- THEY LIKE PERFORMING AND, OH, ISN'T THIS FUN. BRUCE AND I HAD FOUR WONDERFUL
AND, OH, ISN'T THIS FUN. BRUCE AND I HAD FOUR WONDERFUL YEARS BEING TRAINED.
BRUCE AND I HAD FOUR WONDERFUL YEARS BEING TRAINED. SO I THINK WE LOOK AT IT MORE AS
YEARS BEING TRAINED. SO I THINK WE LOOK AT IT MORE AS A SEMI PROFESSIONAL LEVEL THAN
SO I THINK WE LOOK AT IT MORE AS A SEMI PROFESSIONAL LEVEL THAN JUST FOR FUN.
A SEMI PROFESSIONAL LEVEL THAN JUST FOR FUN. NOW IT IS FUN.
JUST FOR FUN. NOW IT IS FUN. AND YOU DO GET ADULATION WHEN
NOW IT IS FUN. AND YOU DO GET ADULATION WHEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED BY AN
AND YOU DO GET ADULATION WHEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED BY AN AUDIENCE.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED BY AN AUDIENCE. BUT IF YOU ARE TRAINED IN THAT
AUDIENCE. BUT IF YOU ARE TRAINED IN THAT SKILL, MUCH AS A DANCER, IT
BUT IF YOU ARE TRAINED IN THAT SKILL, MUCH AS A DANCER, IT DOESN'T QUITE HAVE THE SAME
SKILL, MUCH AS A DANCER, IT DOESN'T QUITE HAVE THE SAME CHARISMA AS SOMEONE WHO JUST
DOESN'T QUITE HAVE THE SAME CHARISMA AS SOMEONE WHO JUST DOES IT FOR FUN.
CHARISMA AS SOMEONE WHO JUST DOES IT FOR FUN. I MEAN WE DO IT AS A PROFESSION
DOES IT FOR FUN. I MEAN WE DO IT AS A PROFESSION IN A WAY, DON'T WE?
I MEAN WE DO IT AS A PROFESSION IN A WAY, DON'T WE? >> THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT
IN A WAY, DON'T WE? >> THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FULFILLMENT, OF COURSE, COMES
>> THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FULFILLMENT, OF COURSE, COMES FROM BEING ABLE TO PERFORM AND
OF FULFILLMENT, OF COURSE, COMES FROM BEING ABLE TO PERFORM AND HEAR THE ADULATION OF THE
FROM BEING ABLE TO PERFORM AND HEAR THE ADULATION OF THE AUDIENCE, , ETCETERA.
HEAR THE ADULATION OF THE AUDIENCE, , ETCETERA. WE BOTH GOT OUR START PRIMARILY
AUDIENCE, , ETCETERA. WE BOTH GOT OUR START PRIMARILY IN SPEECH.
WE BOTH GOT OUR START PRIMARILY IN SPEECH. I WAS SPEECH CHAMPAIGN, HIGH
IN SPEECH. I WAS SPEECH CHAMPAIGN, HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH CHAMMIAN AT
I WAS SPEECH CHAMPAIGN, HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH CHAMMIAN AT RICHWOODS IN 1961.
SCHOOL SPEECH CHAMMIAN AT RICHWOODS IN 1961. HE HAD A TREMENDOUS MENTOR BY A
RICHWOODS IN 1961. HE HAD A TREMENDOUS MENTOR BY A GUY BY THE NAME OF DON MARINE.
HE HAD A TREMENDOUS MENTOR BY A GUY BY THE NAME OF DON MARINE. I WAS IN HIS CONTEST PLAY.
GUY BY THE NAME OF DON MARINE. I WAS IN HIS CONTEST PLAY. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF
I WAS IN HIS CONTEST PLAY. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF SUCCESS, YOU WANT TO WORK ON IT,
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF SUCCESS, YOU WANT TO WORK ON IT, TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
SUCCESS, YOU WANT TO WORK ON IT, TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. I DID THAT IN COLLEGE AND
TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. I DID THAT IN COLLEGE AND THOUGHT ABOUT SPEECH MAJOR.
I DID THAT IN COLLEGE AND THOUGHT ABOUT SPEECH MAJOR. PAT WAS INVOLVED IN SPEECH QUITE
THOUGHT ABOUT SPEECH MAJOR. PAT WAS INVOLVED IN SPEECH QUITE A BIT, TOO.
PAT WAS INVOLVED IN SPEECH QUITE A BIT, TOO. BUT WE BOTH FOUND THE THEATER
A BIT, TOO. BUT WE BOTH FOUND THE THEATER GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
BUT WE BOTH FOUND THE THEATER GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. >>BRUCE, YOUR WORST MOMENT?
WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. >>BRUCE, YOUR WORST MOMENT? >> WELL, THIS HAPPENED IN
>>BRUCE, YOUR WORST MOMENT? >> WELL, THIS HAPPENED IN COLLEGE, WE WERE DOING A COMEDY,
>> WELL, THIS HAPPENED IN COLLEGE, WE WERE DOING A COMEDY, GOOD FRIEND OF PAT'S, WAS
COLLEGE, WE WERE DOING A COMEDY, GOOD FRIEND OF PAT'S, WAS MARRIED TO JUDGE BLACK, PAT
GOOD FRIEND OF PAT'S, WAS MARRIED TO JUDGE BLACK, PAT BLACK WAS IN OUR SHOW.
MARRIED TO JUDGE BLACK, PAT BLACK WAS IN OUR SHOW. >>BRUCE BLACK?
BLACK WAS IN OUR SHOW. >>BRUCE BLACK? >> YES.
>>BRUCE BLACK? >> YES. SHE AND I WERE IN A SHOW THAT
>> YES. SHE AND I WERE IN A SHOW THAT WAS CONSIDERED FAIRLY RACY AT
SHE AND I WERE IN A SHOW THAT WAS CONSIDERED FAIRLY RACY AT THE TIME CALLED "THE MOON IS
WAS CONSIDERED FAIRLY RACY AT THE TIME CALLED "THE MOON IS BLUE."
THE TIME CALLED "THE MOON IS BLUE." A MOVIE MADE -- IT WOULD BE
BLUE." A MOVIE MADE -- IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TAME TODAY BY ALL
A MOVIE MADE -- IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TAME TODAY BY ALL RESPECT, BUT IT OPENS ON THE
CONSIDERED TAME TODAY BY ALL RESPECT, BUT IT OPENS ON THE DECK OF THE EMPIRE STATE
RESPECT, BUT IT OPENS ON THE DECK OF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING WHERE THIS ARCHITECT, I
DECK OF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING WHERE THIS ARCHITECT, I PLAYED DON, THE ARCHITECT, THIS
BUILDING WHERE THIS ARCHITECT, I PLAYED DON, THE ARCHITECT, THIS BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRL WHO HAS RUN
PLAYED DON, THE ARCHITECT, THIS BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRL WHO HAS RUN AWAY FROM HER FAMILY IN IOWA,
BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRL WHO HAS RUN AWAY FROM HER FAMILY IN IOWA, HER FATHER IS A POLICEMAN.
AWAY FROM HER FAMILY IN IOWA, HER FATHER IS A POLICEMAN. THEY MEET.
HER FATHER IS A POLICEMAN. THEY MEET. THEY TALK.
THEY MEET. THEY TALK. THERE IS A LOT OF EXPOSITION
THEY TALK. THERE IS A LOT OF EXPOSITION WHERE WE LEARN ABOUT THE
THERE IS A LOT OF EXPOSITION WHERE WE LEARN ABOUT THE CHARACTERS, EIGHT TO TEN PAGES
WHERE WE LEARN ABOUT THE CHARACTERS, EIGHT TO TEN PAGES OF IT.
CHARACTERS, EIGHT TO TEN PAGES OF IT. SHE WENT DRY AND I WENT DRY, IN
OF IT. SHE WENT DRY AND I WENT DRY, IN THEATER THAT MEANS WE DON'T KNOW
SHE WENT DRY AND I WENT DRY, IN THEATER THAT MEANS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT LINE IS.
THEATER THAT MEANS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT LINE IS. WE DID THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE
WHAT THE NEXT LINE IS. WE DID THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO TO TRY TO
WE DID THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO TO TRY TO REMEMBER, WHAT WAS THE LAST LINE
SUPPOSED TO DO TO TRY TO REMEMBER, WHAT WAS THE LAST LINE SPOKEN?
REMEMBER, WHAT WAS THE LAST LINE SPOKEN? WHERE ARE YOU GOING NEXT?
SPOKEN? WHERE ARE YOU GOING NEXT? WHAT DOES THE SCENE EXPECT TO
WHERE ARE YOU GOING NEXT? WHAT DOES THE SCENE EXPECT TO ACCOMPLISH?
WHAT DOES THE SCENE EXPECT TO ACCOMPLISH? NOTHING WAS HAPPENING.
ACCOMPLISH? NOTHING WAS HAPPENING. WE KEPT TAKING TURNS LOOKING
NOTHING WAS HAPPENING. WE KEPT TAKING TURNS LOOKING THROUGH THE BINOCULARS OUT AT
WE KEPT TAKING TURNS LOOKING THROUGH THE BINOCULARS OUT AT THE CITY.
THROUGH THE BINOCULARS OUT AT THE CITY. FINALLY, I SAID, DO YOU WANT TO
THE CITY. FINALLY, I SAID, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO MY PLACE.
FINALLY, I SAID, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO MY PLACE. SHE SAID, YES, IF YOU DON'T MINE
GO TO MY PLACE. SHE SAID, YES, IF YOU DON'T MINE I AM A ***.
SHE SAID, YES, IF YOU DON'T MINE I AM A ***. WE LINKED ARMS AND WE LEFT!
I AM A ***. WE LINKED ARMS AND WE LEFT! (LAUGHING) THE DIRECTOR WAS VERY
WE LINKED ARMS AND WE LEFT! (LAUGHING) THE DIRECTOR WAS VERY UPSET.
(LAUGHING) THE DIRECTOR WAS VERY UPSET. >>HE WAS.
UPSET. >>HE WAS. >>PAT, SAME QUESTION?
>>HE WAS. >>PAT, SAME QUESTION? >> I THINK DOING "ONCE UPON A
>>PAT, SAME QUESTION? >> I THINK DOING "ONCE UPON A MATTRESS" WAS REAL FEARFUL.
>> I THINK DOING "ONCE UPON A MATTRESS" WAS REAL FEARFUL. AT THE END OF THE SHOW, SHE IS
MATTRESS" WAS REAL FEARFUL. AT THE END OF THE SHOW, SHE IS ON THESE HIGH MATTRESSES SO SHE
AT THE END OF THE SHOW, SHE IS ON THESE HIGH MATTRESSES SO SHE DOESN'T FEEL, I AM AFRAID OF
ON THESE HIGH MATTRESSES SO SHE DOESN'T FEEL, I AM AFRAID OF HEIGHTS.
DOESN'T FEEL, I AM AFRAID OF HEIGHTS. I KIND OF LOST MY CHARACTER AT
HEIGHTS. I KIND OF LOST MY CHARACTER AT TIMES BECAUSE I AM SO CONCERNED
I KIND OF LOST MY CHARACTER AT TIMES BECAUSE I AM SO CONCERNED WITH BEING ON TOP OF THESE 13
TIMES BECAUSE I AM SO CONCERNED WITH BEING ON TOP OF THESE 13 MATTRESSES ON THE CORN STOCK
WITH BEING ON TOP OF THESE 13 MATTRESSES ON THE CORN STOCK TRIM.
MATTRESSES ON THE CORN STOCK TRIM. SO I AM UP NEAR THE TOP OF THE
TRIM. SO I AM UP NEAR THE TOP OF THE TENT, AND, YET, I AM THINKING ",
SO I AM UP NEAR THE TOP OF THE TENT, AND, YET, I AM THINKING ", OH, MY GOSH, WHEN WILL THIS BE
TENT, AND, YET, I AM THINKING ", OH, MY GOSH, WHEN WILL THIS BE OVER SO CAN GET OFF THE BED."
OH, MY GOSH, WHEN WILL THIS BE OVER SO CAN GET OFF THE BED." BEING AFRAID OF HEIGHTS.
OVER SO CAN GET OFF THE BED." BEING AFRAID OF HEIGHTS. >>BEST MOMENT?
BEING AFRAID OF HEIGHTS. >>BEST MOMENT? >> WOW!
>>BEST MOMENT? >> WOW! >>I DON'T KNOW.
>> WOW! >>I DON'T KNOW. >>STANDING OVATIONS.
>>I DON'T KNOW. >>STANDING OVATIONS. >>THEY REALLY ARE COOL?
>>STANDING OVATIONS. >>THEY REALLY ARE COOL? >> THEY ARE SO COOL OR.
>>THEY REALLY ARE COOL? >> THEY ARE SO COOL OR. >>COMING DOWN A DOLL AS DOLLY.
>> THEY ARE SO COOL OR. >>COMING DOWN A DOLL AS DOLLY. >>TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
>>COMING DOWN A DOLL AS DOLLY. >>TELL ME ABOUT THAT. >>WHEN SHE COMES TO HARMONIA
>>TELL ME ABOUT THAT. >>WHEN SHE COMES TO HARMONIA GARDENS, THE ORCHESTRA COMES
>>WHEN SHE COMES TO HARMONIA GARDENS, THE ORCHESTRA COMES INTO THE "HELLO DOLLY."
GARDENS, THE ORCHESTRA COMES INTO THE "HELLO DOLLY." ALL THE MEN ARE THERE.
INTO THE "HELLO DOLLY." ALL THE MEN ARE THERE. SHE WALKS DOWN THE STAIRS.
ALL THE MEN ARE THERE. SHE WALKS DOWN THE STAIRS. FABULOUS.
SHE WALKS DOWN THE STAIRS. FABULOUS. >>THAT WAS AN EXCITING MOMENT.
FABULOUS. >>THAT WAS AN EXCITING MOMENT. BUT ALSO WHEN THEY APPLAUD
>>THAT WAS AN EXCITING MOMENT. BUT ALSO WHEN THEY APPLAUD DURING A SONG.
BUT ALSO WHEN THEY APPLAUD DURING A SONG. ITS NOT OVER YET.
DURING A SONG. ITS NOT OVER YET. THEY ARE APPLAUDING IN THE
ITS NOT OVER YET. THEY ARE APPLAUDING IN THE MIDDLE OF A NUMBER.
THEY ARE APPLAUDING IN THE MIDDLE OF A NUMBER. THAT'S VERY EXCITING.
MIDDLE OF A NUMBER. THAT'S VERY EXCITING. >>BRUCE, SAME QUESTION.
THAT'S VERY EXCITING. >>BRUCE, SAME QUESTION. >>WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO PULL OFF
>>BRUCE, SAME QUESTION. >>WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO PULL OFF PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES OF A
>>WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO PULL OFF PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES OF A MONOLOG IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHOW
PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES OF A MONOLOG IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHOW WITHOUT THE LOSING YOUR
MONOLOG IN THE MIDDLE OF A SHOW WITHOUT THE LOSING YOUR MOTIVATION, NOT MISSING A BEAT,
WITHOUT THE LOSING YOUR MOTIVATION, NOT MISSING A BEAT, THAT'S VERY, VERY SANCTIFYING.
MOTIVATION, NOT MISSING A BEAT, THAT'S VERY, VERY SANCTIFYING. I HAVE DONE IT A NUMBER OF
THAT'S VERY, VERY SANCTIFYING. I HAVE DONE IT A NUMBER OF TIMES.
I HAVE DONE IT A NUMBER OF TIMES. ONE TIME YOU MIGHT BE AS AN
TIMES. ONE TIME YOU MIGHT BE AS AN ATTORNEY YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED
ONE TIME YOU MIGHT BE AS AN ATTORNEY YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WE WERE IN A STUDY
ATTORNEY YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WE WERE IN A STUDY FOR THE NATIONAL SCIENCE
IN KNOWING WE WERE IN A STUDY FOR THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION UP IN FLINT,
FOR THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION UP IN FLINT, MICHIGAN, WHERE, IN FRONT OF THE
FOUNDATION UP IN FLINT, MICHIGAN, WHERE, IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE AND EXPANDED JURY, THEY
MICHIGAN, WHERE, IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE AND EXPANDED JURY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE ACTORS.
JUDGE AND EXPANDED JURY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE ACTORS. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF AN
DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE ACTORS. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL CASE.
THEY THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF AN ACTUAL CASE. THE STUDY THAT WAS BEING DONE
ACTUAL CASE. THE STUDY THAT WAS BEING DONE WAS ON THE USE OF VIDEO TAPE IN
THE STUDY THAT WAS BEING DONE WAS ON THE USE OF VIDEO TAPE IN THE COURTROOM.
WAS ON THE USE OF VIDEO TAPE IN THE COURTROOM. THE VIDEO TAPE DON MARINE WHO
THE COURTROOM. THE VIDEO TAPE DON MARINE WHO WAS A WITNESS, AND I WAS THE
THE VIDEO TAPE DON MARINE WHO WAS A WITNESS, AND I WAS THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY.
WAS A WITNESS, AND I WAS THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY. WE HAD TO DO ALL OF THIS WORD
PROSECUTING ATTORNEY. WE HAD TO DO ALL OF THIS WORD FOR WORD, FROM THE ORIGINAL
WE HAD TO DO ALL OF THIS WORD FOR WORD, FROM THE ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT OF THE TRIAL.
FOR WORD, FROM THE ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT OF THE TRIAL. AND AFTERWARDS, THE AUDIENCE
TRANSCRIPT OF THE TRIAL. AND AFTERWARDS, THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS WERE GIVEN SURVEYS, AND
AND AFTERWARDS, THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS WERE GIVEN SURVEYS, AND THEN THEY WERE ALLOWED TO WATCH
MEMBERS WERE GIVEN SURVEYS, AND THEN THEY WERE ALLOWED TO WATCH THE VIDEO TAPE, AND THEY WERE
THEN THEY WERE ALLOWED TO WATCH THE VIDEO TAPE, AND THEY WERE SURVEYED AGAIN.
THE VIDEO TAPE, AND THEY WERE SURVEYED AGAIN. IT WAS INTERESTING HOW ATTITUDES
SURVEYED AGAIN. IT WAS INTERESTING HOW ATTITUDES CHANGED AMONG JURY MEMBERS WHEN
IT WAS INTERESTING HOW ATTITUDES CHANGED AMONG JURY MEMBERS WHEN THEY SAW THE VIDEOTAPES AND THE
CHANGED AMONG JURY MEMBERS WHEN THEY SAW THE VIDEOTAPES AND THE CLOSE UPS.
THEY SAW THE VIDEOTAPES AND THE CLOSE UPS. >>YOUR MENTOR, STAN SLOWSKI
CLOSE UPS. >>YOUR MENTOR, STAN SLOWSKI SYSTEM.
>>YOUR MENTOR, STAN SLOWSKI SYSTEM. YOU FOLKS TRAFFICKED IN THAT.
SYSTEM. YOU FOLKS TRAFFICKED IN THAT. >>WE STUDIED HIM.
YOU FOLKS TRAFFICKED IN THAT. >>WE STUDIED HIM. I DON'T KNOW I AM AN ADVOCATE OF
>>WE STUDIED HIM. I DON'T KNOW I AM AN ADVOCATE OF HIS TYPE OF APPLYING MOTIVATION
I DON'T KNOW I AM AN ADVOCATE OF HIS TYPE OF APPLYING MOTIVATION TO A CHARACTER, SUCH AS BRANDO
HIS TYPE OF APPLYING MOTIVATION TO A CHARACTER, SUCH AS BRANDO OR JAMES DEAN.
TO A CHARACTER, SUCH AS BRANDO OR JAMES DEAN. I BELIEVE YOU DO BECOME THE
OR JAMES DEAN. I BELIEVE YOU DO BECOME THE CHARACTER, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE
I BELIEVE YOU DO BECOME THE CHARACTER, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN HIS THEORY OF IMMERSION THAT
CHARACTER, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN HIS THEORY OF IMMERSION THAT EVERY SECOND OF MY BEING IS THIS
IN HIS THEORY OF IMMERSION THAT EVERY SECOND OF MY BEING IS THIS CHARACTER.
EVERY SECOND OF MY BEING IS THIS CHARACTER. I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME
CHARACTER. I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME OBJECTIVITY AS PAT WHITE, BUT
I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME OBJECTIVITY AS PAT WHITE, BUT CERTAINLY I AM DOLLY LEVI ON
OBJECTIVITY AS PAT WHITE, BUT CERTAINLY I AM DOLLY LEVI ON STAGE, BUT I THINK THEY WORK
CERTAINLY I AM DOLLY LEVI ON STAGE, BUT I THINK THEY WORK SIDE BY SIDE.
STAGE, BUT I THINK THEY WORK SIDE BY SIDE. >>"RAINMAN" HOW COULD "RAINMAN
SIDE BY SIDE. >>"RAINMAN" HOW COULD "RAINMAN "BE PORTRAYED WITHOUT GETTING
>>"RAINMAN" HOW COULD "RAINMAN "BE PORTRAYED WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE HEAD.
"BE PORTRAYED WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE HEAD. >>HE STUDIED.
INTO THE HEAD. >>HE STUDIED. >>HE SAID FOR A YEAR AND A HAVE.
>>HE STUDIED. >>HE SAID FOR A YEAR AND A HAVE. >>DUSTIN HOFFMAN STUDIED AUTISM
>>HE SAID FOR A YEAR AND A HAVE. >>DUSTIN HOFFMAN STUDIED AUTISM IN PATIENTS TO DO THAT ROLE
>>DUSTIN HOFFMAN STUDIED AUTISM IN PATIENTS TO DO THAT ROLE EFFECTIVELY.
IN PATIENTS TO DO THAT ROLE EFFECTIVELY. >>BENJAMIN BUTTON.
EFFECTIVELY. >>BENJAMIN BUTTON. >>BRAD PITT, SURE.
>>BENJAMIN BUTTON. >>BRAD PITT, SURE. >>ISN'T THAT A SPEED SHE OF THE
>>BRAD PITT, SURE. >>ISN'T THAT A SPEED SHE OF THE SYSTEM I JUST DESCRIBED?
>>ISN'T THAT A SPEED SHE OF THE SYSTEM I JUST DESCRIBED? >> ABSOLUTELY.
SYSTEM I JUST DESCRIBED? >> ABSOLUTELY. >>YOU REALLY GET INTO THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>YOU REALLY GET INTO THAT. >>THE INTERIOR MOTIVATION, STAN
>>YOU REALLY GET INTO THAT. >>THE INTERIOR MOTIVATION, STAN SLOWSKI METHOD, YOU WOULDN'T
>>THE INTERIOR MOTIVATION, STAN SLOWSKI METHOD, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW YOU ARE PLAYING A
SLOWSKI METHOD, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW YOU ARE PLAYING A CHARACTER.
KNOW YOU ARE PLAYING A CHARACTER. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THERE IS AN
CHARACTER. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THERE IS AN AUDIENCE. YOU ARE BEING THAT
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THERE IS AN AUDIENCE. YOU ARE BEING THAT CHARACTER.
AUDIENCE. YOU ARE BEING THAT CHARACTER. PAT AND I DON'T HAPPEN TO
CHARACTER. PAT AND I DON'T HAPPEN TO EMBODY, EMBRACE THAT PHILOSOPHY.
PAT AND I DON'T HAPPEN TO EMBODY, EMBRACE THAT PHILOSOPHY. >>
EMBODY, EMBRACE THAT PHILOSOPHY. >> >>WHY?
>> >>WHY? >> WE OWE IT TO THE AUDIENCE
>>WHY? >> WE OWE IT TO THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS TO BE CONSTANTLY AWARE
>> WE OWE IT TO THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS TO BE CONSTANTLY AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND US.
MEMBERS TO BE CONSTANTLY AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND US. AT A GIVEN TIME, IF YOU NEED TO
OF WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND US. AT A GIVEN TIME, IF YOU NEED TO MAKE CHANGES, IF YOU NEED TO DO
AT A GIVEN TIME, IF YOU NEED TO MAKE CHANGES, IF YOU NEED TO DO SOME THINGS TO SELL YOURSELF,
MAKE CHANGES, IF YOU NEED TO DO SOME THINGS TO SELL YOURSELF, AND YOUR CHARACTER, YOU DO THAT
SOME THINGS TO SELL YOURSELF, AND YOUR CHARACTER, YOU DO THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE
AND YOUR CHARACTER, YOU DO THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE AUDIENCE, AND YOU ARE AWARE OF
BECAUSE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE AUDIENCE, AND YOU ARE AWARE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
AUDIENCE, AND YOU ARE AWARE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND YOU. VERY IMPORTANT, WE THINK TO KEEP
THE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND YOU. VERY IMPORTANT, WE THINK TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.
VERY IMPORTANT, WE THINK TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. >>MAYBE I WAS DISINGENUOUS, I
THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. >>MAYBE I WAS DISINGENUOUS, I WAS ASKING THAT CUSS.
>>MAYBE I WAS DISINGENUOUS, I WAS ASKING THAT CUSS. DUSTIN HOFFMAN, AND BENJAMIN.
WAS ASKING THAT CUSS. DUSTIN HOFFMAN, AND BENJAMIN. THOSE ARE MOVIES.
DUSTIN HOFFMAN, AND BENJAMIN. THOSE ARE MOVIES. >>THEY ARE MOVIES.
THOSE ARE MOVIES. >>THEY ARE MOVIES. >> THERE ARE RETAKES.
>>THEY ARE MOVIES. >> THERE ARE RETAKES. >>LOTS OF RETAKES.
>> THERE ARE RETAKES. >>LOTS OF RETAKES. >>YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
>>LOTS OF RETAKES. >>YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
>>YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. >>RIGHT.
OPPORTUNITY. >>RIGHT. IN LIFE THEATER, YOU ONLY HAVE
>>RIGHT. IN LIFE THEATER, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHANCE TO DO IT.
IN LIFE THEATER, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHANCE TO DO IT. >>WHICH IS WHY DUSTIN HOFFMAN
ONE CHANCE TO DO IT. >>WHICH IS WHY DUSTIN HOFFMAN LOVED BROADWAY.
>>WHICH IS WHY DUSTIN HOFFMAN LOVED BROADWAY. >>MANY OF THEM DO.
LOVED BROADWAY. >>MANY OF THEM DO. >>WHY?
>>MANY OF THEM DO. >>WHY? >> IT IS THE DISCIPLINE IT JUST
>>WHY? >> IT IS THE DISCIPLINE IT JUST THE DISCIPLINE OF BEING ABLE --
>> IT IS THE DISCIPLINE IT JUST THE DISCIPLINE OF BEING ABLE -- >>ONE PASS?
THE DISCIPLINE OF BEING ABLE -- >>ONE PASS? >> YES, TO DO IT.
>>ONE PASS? >> YES, TO DO IT. >>LIKE SPENCER TRACY, JUDGMENT
>> YES, TO DO IT. >>LIKE SPENCER TRACY, JUDGMENT OF NUREMBERG.
>>LIKE SPENCER TRACY, JUDGMENT OF NUREMBERG. >>WITH SIDNEY.
OF NUREMBERG. >>WITH SIDNEY. >>WITH SIDNEY, YEAH, BUT THE
>>WITH SIDNEY. >>WITH SIDNEY, YEAH, BUT THE ABILITY TO TAKE IT FROM
>>WITH SIDNEY, YEAH, BUT THE ABILITY TO TAKE IT FROM BEGINNING TO END IN A
ABILITY TO TAKE IT FROM BEGINNING TO END IN A CONTINUITY -- CONTINUUM.
BEGINNING TO END IN A CONTINUITY -- CONTINUUM. >>AND THAT'S WHERE ACTING WAS
CONTINUITY -- CONTINUUM. >>AND THAT'S WHERE ACTING WAS BORN.
>>AND THAT'S WHERE ACTING WAS BORN. IT WAS BORN ON THE STAGE.
BORN. IT WAS BORN ON THE STAGE. IT WASN'T BORN IN A MOVIE
IT WAS BORN ON THE STAGE. IT WASN'T BORN IN A MOVIE STUDIO.
IT WASN'T BORN IN A MOVIE STUDIO. I MEAN THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.
STUDIO. I MEAN THAT'S HOW IT STARTED. IT STARTED LIVE.
I MEAN THAT'S HOW IT STARTED. IT STARTED LIVE. >>WILLIAM BILL SHAKESPEARE.
IT STARTED LIVE. >>WILLIAM BILL SHAKESPEARE. >>HE WAS AN ACTOR.
>>WILLIAM BILL SHAKESPEARE. >>HE WAS AN ACTOR. >>HE WAS AN ACTOR, TOO HOW DO
>>HE WAS AN ACTOR. >>HE WAS AN ACTOR, TOO HOW DO YOU WRITE DRAMA OR PLAY WITHOUT
>>HE WAS AN ACTOR, TOO HOW DO YOU WRITE DRAMA OR PLAY WITHOUT BEING ONE YOURSELF.
YOU WRITE DRAMA OR PLAY WITHOUT BEING ONE YOURSELF. >>HOW DO YOU DIRECT WITHOUT
BEING ONE YOURSELF. >>HOW DO YOU DIRECT WITHOUT BEING YOURSELF.
>>HOW DO YOU DIRECT WITHOUT BEING YOURSELF. >>HOW CAN YOU CRIT SIZE
BEING YOURSELF. >>HOW CAN YOU CRIT SIZE PHYSICIAN PHYSICIANS WITHOUT
>>HOW CAN YOU CRIT SIZE PHYSICIAN PHYSICIANS WITHOUT HAVING BEEN ONE.
PHYSICIAN PHYSICIANS WITHOUT HAVING BEEN ONE. >>BEING SUCCESSFUL, NOT
HAVING BEEN ONE. >>BEING SUCCESSFUL, NOT NECESSARILY ECONOMICS.
>>BEING SUCCESSFUL, NOT NECESSARILY ECONOMICS. MONEY DOES MORE GOOD THAN.
NECESSARILY ECONOMICS. MONEY DOES MORE GOOD THAN. BUT SUCCESS, HOWEVER YOU MEASURE
MONEY DOES MORE GOOD THAN. BUT SUCCESS, HOWEVER YOU MEASURE IT, YOU CAN LOOK IN THE MIRROR
BUT SUCCESS, HOWEVER YOU MEASURE IT, YOU CAN LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY "YOU KNOW, I AM PRETTY
IT, YOU CAN LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY "YOU KNOW, I AM PRETTY GOOD AT THAT."
AND SAY "YOU KNOW, I AM PRETTY GOOD AT THAT." AND YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO
GOOD AT THAT." AND YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO TELL YOU THAT, IS THAT FAIR?
AND YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO TELL YOU THAT, IS THAT FAIR? >> YEAH, BUT AN AUDIENCE DOES
TELL YOU THAT, IS THAT FAIR? >> YEAH, BUT AN AUDIENCE DOES TELL YOU.
>> YEAH, BUT AN AUDIENCE DOES TELL YOU. YOU GET POSITIVE REINFORCE.
TELL YOU. YOU GET POSITIVE REINFORCE. THAT'S WHY YOU PERPETUATE IT.
YOU GET POSITIVE REINFORCE. THAT'S WHY YOU PERPETUATE IT. >>THE THE AUDIENCE IS DEAD, BUT
THAT'S WHY YOU PERPETUATE IT. >>THE THE AUDIENCE IS DEAD, BUT SAYING NOTHING, THAT YOU DID A
>>THE THE AUDIENCE IS DEAD, BUT SAYING NOTHING, THAT YOU DID A BAD JOB.
SAYING NOTHING, THAT YOU DID A BAD JOB. >>THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED!
BAD JOB. >>THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED! (LAUGHING).
>>THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED! (LAUGHING). >>WE HAVE WORKED *** SHOWS
(LAUGHING). >>WE HAVE WORKED *** SHOWS WHERE THERE ONLY HAS BEEN A HALF
>>WE HAVE WORKED *** SHOWS WHERE THERE ONLY HAS BEEN A HALF HOUSE, AND NOT VERY RESPONSIVE T
WHERE THERE ONLY HAS BEEN A HALF HOUSE, AND NOT VERY RESPONSIVE T A FRIDAY NIGHT, WE THINK, WELL,
HOUSE, AND NOT VERY RESPONSIVE T A FRIDAY NIGHT, WE THINK, WELL, THEY HAVE BEEN OUT HAVING DINNER
A FRIDAY NIGHT, WE THINK, WELL, THEY HAVE BEEN OUT HAVING DINNER AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, AND
THEY HAVE BEEN OUT HAVING DINNER AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, AND THERE IS NOT VERY APPRECIATIVE.
AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, AND THERE IS NOT VERY APPRECIATIVE. BUT AFTERWARDS, WE DON'T BLAME
THERE IS NOT VERY APPRECIATIVE. BUT AFTERWARDS, WE DON'T BLAME THAT ON US.
BUT AFTERWARDS, WE DON'T BLAME THAT ON US. (LAUGHING) WE BLAME IT ON THE
THAT ON US. (LAUGHING) WE BLAME IT ON THE AUDIENCE.
(LAUGHING) WE BLAME IT ON THE AUDIENCE. >>RIGHT.
AUDIENCE. >>RIGHT. WE STILL GET GRATIFICATION, EVEN
>>RIGHT. WE STILL GET GRATIFICATION, EVEN THOUGH THE AUDIENCE LET'S SAY
WE STILL GET GRATIFICATION, EVEN THOUGH THE AUDIENCE LET'S SAY SLOW THAT NIGHT.
THOUGH THE AUDIENCE LET'S SAY SLOW THAT NIGHT. MAYBE THEY HAD A BAD DAY.
SLOW THAT NIGHT. MAYBE THEY HAD A BAD DAY. MAYBE THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE THE
MAYBE THEY HAD A BAD DAY. MAYBE THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE THE WIFE IS DRAGGING THEM TO THE
MAYBE THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE THE WIFE IS DRAGGING THEM TO THE THEATER.
WIFE IS DRAGGING THEM TO THE THEATER. WE GET SOMETHING OUT OF JUST
THEATER. WE GET SOMETHING OUT OF JUST DOING IT.
WE GET SOMETHING OUT OF JUST DOING IT. >>JUST DOING IT.
DOING IT. >>JUST DOING IT. >>YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT SINCE
>>JUST DOING IT. >>YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT SINCE YOU WERE --
>>YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT SINCE YOU WERE -- >>THE REASON I BECAME INVOLVED
YOU WERE -- >>THE REASON I BECAME INVOLVED IN THEATER, WESLEYAN DIDN'T HAVE
>>THE REASON I BECAME INVOLVED IN THEATER, WESLEYAN DIDN'T HAVE A DANCE DEPARTMENT.
IN THEATER, WESLEYAN DIDN'T HAVE A DANCE DEPARTMENT. I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S CLOSE
A DANCE DEPARTMENT. I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.
I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH. SO THERE YOU GO.
ENOUGH. SO THERE YOU GO. >>NOW THEY HAVE MUSIC THEATER.
SO THERE YOU GO. >>NOW THEY HAVE MUSIC THEATER. >>I WOULD HAVE KILLED FOR THAT.
>>NOW THEY HAVE MUSIC THEATER. >>I WOULD HAVE KILLED FOR THAT. >>YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BACK!
>>I WOULD HAVE KILLED FOR THAT. >>YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BACK! (LAUGHING).
>>YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BACK! (LAUGHING). >>I COULD.
(LAUGHING). >>I COULD. OLDEST STUDENT ON RECORD.
>>I COULD. OLDEST STUDENT ON RECORD. >>NOBODY THOUGHT OF THAT, GOING
OLDEST STUDENT ON RECORD. >>NOBODY THOUGHT OF THAT, GOING BACK AND AUDITING A COURSE.
>>NOBODY THOUGHT OF THAT, GOING BACK AND AUDITING A COURSE. >>THAT WOULD BE FUN.
BACK AND AUDITING A COURSE. >>THAT WOULD BE FUN. WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT?
>>THAT WOULD BE FUN. WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW.
WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. >>TOO FAR AWAY.
I DON'T KNOW. >>TOO FAR AWAY. >>TOO FAR AWAY.
>>TOO FAR AWAY. >>TOO FAR AWAY. >>ARE YOU LOOKING FOR EXCUSE?
>>TOO FAR AWAY. >>ARE YOU LOOKING FOR EXCUSE? >>ABSOLUTELY.
>>ARE YOU LOOKING FOR EXCUSE? >>ABSOLUTELY. >>I THINK SO.
>>ABSOLUTELY. >>I THINK SO. I AM LAZIER NOW THAN I WAS WHEN
>>I THINK SO. I AM LAZIER NOW THAN I WAS WHEN I WAS TAP DANCING AT FIVE!
I AM LAZIER NOW THAN I WAS WHEN I WAS TAP DANCING AT FIVE! >>I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
I WAS TAP DANCING AT FIVE! >>I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN,
>>I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR TWO CHILDREN.
LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR TWO CHILDREN. DO THEY HAVE ANY INHERITED
YOUR TWO CHILDREN. DO THEY HAVE ANY INHERITED CHARACTERISTICS OF YOUR'S?
DO THEY HAVE ANY INHERITED CHARACTERISTICS OF YOUR'S? THERE IS PROBABLY --
CHARACTERISTICS OF YOUR'S? THERE IS PROBABLY -- >>SKIP A GENERATION HERE.
THERE IS PROBABLY -- >>SKIP A GENERATION HERE. >>TWO BOYS, AND I THINK IF I
>>SKIP A GENERATION HERE. >>TWO BOYS, AND I THINK IF I WERE TO DIVIDE BRUCE DOWN THE
>>TWO BOYS, AND I THINK IF I WERE TO DIVIDE BRUCE DOWN THE MIDDLE, BOTH OF MY SONS ARE HIS
WERE TO DIVIDE BRUCE DOWN THE MIDDLE, BOTH OF MY SONS ARE HIS HALF.
MIDDLE, BOTH OF MY SONS ARE HIS HALF. I HAVE A VERY CREATIVE CHILD WHO
HALF. I HAVE A VERY CREATIVE CHILD WHO WAS IN THEATER, WHO WAS A MUSIC
I HAVE A VERY CREATIVE CHILD WHO WAS IN THEATER, WHO WAS A MUSIC MAJOR, WHO PLAYS EIGHT
WAS IN THEATER, WHO WAS A MUSIC MAJOR, WHO PLAYS EIGHT INSTRUMENTS, SINGS TERRIFIC.
MAJOR, WHO PLAYS EIGHT INSTRUMENTS, SINGS TERRIFIC. THE OTHER SON IS PRAGMATIC, IS A
INSTRUMENTS, SINGS TERRIFIC. THE OTHER SON IS PRAGMATIC, IS A SALESMAN, IS THE ATHLETE THAT IS
THE OTHER SON IS PRAGMATIC, IS A SALESMAN, IS THE ATHLETE THAT IS THE OTHER HALF OF BRUCE.
SALESMAN, IS THE ATHLETE THAT IS THE OTHER HALF OF BRUCE. BOTH MY SONS ARE HALF OF THE
THE OTHER HALF OF BRUCE. BOTH MY SONS ARE HALF OF THE SAME MAN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT
BOTH MY SONS ARE HALF OF THE SAME MAN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY GOT FROM ME!
SAME MAN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY GOT FROM ME! (LAUGHING).
THEY GOT FROM ME! (LAUGHING). >>YOUR BEAUTIFUL HAIR.
(LAUGHING). >>YOUR BEAUTIFUL HAIR. >>MY OTHER SON, PGA MEMBER, GOLF
>>YOUR BEAUTIFUL HAIR. >>MY OTHER SON, PGA MEMBER, GOLF INSTRUCTOR AND HEAD GOLF
>>MY OTHER SON, PGA MEMBER, GOLF INSTRUCTOR AND HEAD GOLF PROFESSIONAL FOR YEARS AND YEARS
INSTRUCTOR AND HEAD GOLF PROFESSIONAL FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
PROFESSIONAL FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. NOW HE IS A PROFESSIONAL
AND YEARS. NOW HE IS A PROFESSIONAL PHARMACEUTICAL SALESPERSON, BUT
NOW HE IS A PROFESSIONAL PHARMACEUTICAL SALESPERSON, BUT HE STILL IS A MEMBER OF THE PGA
PHARMACEUTICAL SALESPERSON, BUT HE STILL IS A MEMBER OF THE PGA OF AMERICA.
HE STILL IS A MEMBER OF THE PGA OF AMERICA. HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN.
OF AMERICA. HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN. THE YOUNGEST HAS TWO CHILDREN, A
HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN. THE YOUNGEST HAS TWO CHILDREN, A BOY AND A GIRL.
THE YOUNGEST HAS TWO CHILDREN, A BOY AND A GIRL. THEY LIVE ALSO IN THE ST. LOUIS
BOY AND A GIRL. THEY LIVE ALSO IN THE ST. LOUIS AREA.
THEY LIVE ALSO IN THE ST. LOUIS AREA. HE IS INVOLVED IN STRATEGIC
AREA. HE IS INVOLVED IN STRATEGIC COMPUTER PLANNING FOR
HE IS INVOLVED IN STRATEGIC COMPUTER PLANNING FOR ORGANIZATIONS, WORKED FOR
COMPUTER PLANNING FOR ORGANIZATIONS, WORKED FOR PRIVATELY HELD FIRM, AND I THINK
ORGANIZATIONS, WORKED FOR PRIVATELY HELD FIRM, AND I THINK HE HAS GOT HIS MOTHER'S TALENT I
PRIVATELY HELD FIRM, AND I THINK HE HAS GOT HIS MOTHER'S TALENT I WOULD SAY WITHOUT QUESTION.
HE HAS GOT HIS MOTHER'S TALENT I WOULD SAY WITHOUT QUESTION. >>BUT NOT YOUR'S?
WOULD SAY WITHOUT QUESTION. >>BUT NOT YOUR'S? >> WELL, I WOULDN'T CALL IT MY
>>BUT NOT YOUR'S? >> WELL, I WOULDN'T CALL IT MY TALENT NECESSARILY, BECAUSE HE
>> WELL, I WOULDN'T CALL IT MY TALENT NECESSARILY, BECAUSE HE SINGS AND PLAYS THE PIANO.
TALENT NECESSARILY, BECAUSE HE SINGS AND PLAYS THE PIANO. I PLAY AROUND WITH A GUITAR A
SINGS AND PLAYS THE PIANO. I PLAY AROUND WITH A GUITAR A LITTLE BIT, BUT I AM NOT REALLY
I PLAY AROUND WITH A GUITAR A LITTLE BIT, BUT I AM NOT REALLY A MUSICIAN.
LITTLE BIT, BUT I AM NOT REALLY A MUSICIAN. >>I WANT TO ADDRESS THE
A MUSICIAN. >>I WANT TO ADDRESS THE INTELLECTUAL CHARACTERISTICS
>>I WANT TO ADDRESS THE INTELLECTUAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT YOU HAVE JUST EXPRESSED.
INTELLECTUAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT YOU HAVE JUST EXPRESSED. MY VIEW IS THAT THERE IS TWO
THAT YOU HAVE JUST EXPRESSED. MY VIEW IS THAT THERE IS TWO PARTS OF OUR BRAIN.
MY VIEW IS THAT THERE IS TWO PARTS OF OUR BRAIN. THERE IS THE INTUITIVE OR
PARTS OF OUR BRAIN. THERE IS THE INTUITIVE OR IRRATIONAL PART, AND THEN THERE
THERE IS THE INTUITIVE OR IRRATIONAL PART, AND THEN THERE IS A RATIONALE, THE QUALITATIVE
IRRATIONAL PART, AND THEN THERE IS A RATIONALE, THE QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE PARTS T SEEMS
IS A RATIONALE, THE QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE PARTS T SEEMS TO ME, BRUCE, THAT YOU HAVE
AND QUANTITATIVE PARTS T SEEMS TO ME, BRUCE, THAT YOU HAVE BISECTED AS YOUR SPOUSE IS
TO ME, BRUCE, THAT YOU HAVE BISECTED AS YOUR SPOUSE IS SAYING, QUANTITATIVE, AND
BISECTED AS YOUR SPOUSE IS SAYING, QUANTITATIVE, AND QUALITATIVE.
SAYING, QUANTITATIVE, AND QUALITATIVE. >>WE DO THINGS FOR TWO REASONS,
QUALITATIVE. >>WE DO THINGS FOR TWO REASONS, LOGICAL REASON, WE LIKE TO
>>WE DO THINGS FOR TWO REASONS, LOGICAL REASON, WE LIKE TO TAUGHT TAUGHT, AND EMOTIONAL.
LOGICAL REASON, WE LIKE TO TAUGHT TAUGHT, AND EMOTIONAL. >>AND EMOTIONAL REASONS TENDS TO
TAUGHT TAUGHT, AND EMOTIONAL. >>AND EMOTIONAL REASONS TENDS TO BE THE WORST DECISIONS.
>>AND EMOTIONAL REASONS TENDS TO BE THE WORST DECISIONS. >>WHEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE,
BE THE WORST DECISIONS. >>WHEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, CHANCES ARE YOU HAVE COME AT
>>WHEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, CHANCES ARE YOU HAVE COME AT SOMETHING EMOTIONALLY RATHER
CHANCES ARE YOU HAVE COME AT SOMETHING EMOTIONALLY RATHER THAN LOGICALLY.
SOMETHING EMOTIONALLY RATHER THAN LOGICALLY. >> ONLY TIME PEOPLE -- I HAVE
THAN LOGICALLY. >> ONLY TIME PEOPLE -- I HAVE RUN INTO MANY PEOPLE THAT
>> ONLY TIME PEOPLE -- I HAVE RUN INTO MANY PEOPLE THAT SUGGEST THE ONLY TIME THEY WERE
RUN INTO MANY PEOPLE THAT SUGGEST THE ONLY TIME THEY WERE WRONG WHEN THEY THOUGHT THEY
SUGGEST THE ONLY TIME THEY WERE WRONG WHEN THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE!
WRONG WHEN THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE! (LAUGHING).
WERE! (LAUGHING). >>I LIKE THAT!
(LAUGHING). >>I LIKE THAT! (LAUGHING).
>>I LIKE THAT! (LAUGHING). >>BUT YOU MAYBE MORE QUALITATIVE
(LAUGHING). >>BUT YOU MAYBE MORE QUALITATIVE THAN QUANTITATIVE.
>>BUT YOU MAYBE MORE QUALITATIVE THAN QUANTITATIVE. >>THE RIGHT-LEFT BRAIN IS ALWAYS
THAN QUANTITATIVE. >>THE RIGHT-LEFT BRAIN IS ALWAYS APPLIED TO LEARNING.
>>THE RIGHT-LEFT BRAIN IS ALWAYS APPLIED TO LEARNING. AS A MASTER TEACHER WHEN I WAS
APPLIED TO LEARNING. AS A MASTER TEACHER WHEN I WAS GETTING MY MASTER'S, WE HAD A
AS A MASTER TEACHER WHEN I WAS GETTING MY MASTER'S, WE HAD A CLASS IN TEACHING, TO THE LEFT
GETTING MY MASTER'S, WE HAD A CLASS IN TEACHING, TO THE LEFT BRAIN CHILD, TO THE RIGHT BRAIN
CLASS IN TEACHING, TO THE LEFT BRAIN CHILD, TO THE RIGHT BRAIN CHILD.
BRAIN CHILD, TO THE RIGHT BRAIN CHILD. TODAY, SOMETIMES IT IS VERY
CHILD. TODAY, SOMETIMES IT IS VERY OBVIOUS WHICH SIDE THEY ARE ON,
TODAY, SOMETIMES IT IS VERY OBVIOUS WHICH SIDE THEY ARE ON, BUT IT IS -- YOU KNOW, IT WOULD
OBVIOUS WHICH SIDE THEY ARE ON, BUT IT IS -- YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE COULD USE BOTH OF
BUT IT IS -- YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE COULD USE BOTH OF THOSE SIDES.
BE BEST IF WE COULD USE BOTH OF THOSE SIDES. >>YOU FOLKS ARE SPECIALISTS IN
THOSE SIDES. >>YOU FOLKS ARE SPECIALISTS IN COMMUNICATION, AND WE ARE
>>YOU FOLKS ARE SPECIALISTS IN COMMUNICATION, AND WE ARE LACKING THAT.
COMMUNICATION, AND WE ARE LACKING THAT. >>I THINK SO.
LACKING THAT. >>I THINK SO. >>DON'T HAVE AS MANY WARS AND
>>I THINK SO. >>DON'T HAVE AS MANY WARS AND PESTILENCE.
>>DON'T HAVE AS MANY WARS AND PESTILENCE. >>AND I THINK COMPUTERS AND ALL
PESTILENCE. >>AND I THINK COMPUTERS AND ALL THESE GADGETS WHERE OUR THUMBS
>>AND I THINK COMPUTERS AND ALL THESE GADGETS WHERE OUR THUMBS ARE WORKING FASTER THAN OUR
THESE GADGETS WHERE OUR THUMBS ARE WORKING FASTER THAN OUR MOUTHS WHICH IN SOME CASES MIGHT
ARE WORKING FASTER THAN OUR MOUTHS WHICH IN SOME CASES MIGHT BE A GOOD THING, BUT I THINK WE
MOUTHS WHICH IN SOME CASES MIGHT BE A GOOD THING, BUT I THINK WE ARE -- YOU KNOW --
BE A GOOD THING, BUT I THINK WE ARE -- YOU KNOW -- >>WE ARE LOSING.
ARE -- YOU KNOW -- >>WE ARE LOSING. IS IT FAIR TO SAY A DECADE FROM
>>WE ARE LOSING. IS IT FAIR TO SAY A DECADE FROM NOW, THERE MAYBE VERY FEW PEOPLE
IS IT FAIR TO SAY A DECADE FROM NOW, THERE MAYBE VERY FEW PEOPLE COMING TO ANY OF YOUR
NOW, THERE MAYBE VERY FEW PEOPLE COMING TO ANY OF YOUR PERFORMANCES.
COMING TO ANY OF YOUR PERFORMANCES. >>I HOPE NOT.
PERFORMANCES. >>I HOPE NOT. >>LET'S LOOK AT IT LOGICALLY,
>>I HOPE NOT. >>LET'S LOOK AT IT LOGICALLY, EXTENSION OF THE INTERNET AND
>>LET'S LOOK AT IT LOGICALLY, EXTENSION OF THE INTERNET AND COMPUTERS, AND YOUTUBE AND GO ON
EXTENSION OF THE INTERNET AND COMPUTERS, AND YOUTUBE AND GO ON AND ON AND ON, PRINT, THE OTHER
COMPUTERS, AND YOUTUBE AND GO ON AND ON AND ON, PRINT, THE OTHER MEDIA.
AND ON AND ON, PRINT, THE OTHER MEDIA. IS IT FAIR TO SAY YOU MAYBE THE
MEDIA. IS IT FAIR TO SAY YOU MAYBE THE LAST OF THE MOJIKINS.
IS IT FAIR TO SAY YOU MAYBE THE LAST OF THE MOJIKINS. >>I DON'T THINK SO, BROADWAY
LAST OF THE MOJIKINS. >>I DON'T THINK SO, BROADWAY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, YOU HAVE
>>I DON'T THINK SO, BROADWAY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, YOU HAVE GOT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE
WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, YOU HAVE GOT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE DISNEY COMPANY PUTTING AS MUCH
GOT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE DISNEY COMPANY PUTTING AS MUCH MONEY INTO BROADWAY.
DISNEY COMPANY PUTTING AS MUCH MONEY INTO BROADWAY. >>A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TRYING TO
MONEY INTO BROADWAY. >>A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OFF THE BOARD.
>>A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OFF THE BOARD. INVESTORS ARE NOT HAPPY.
GET OFF THE BOARD. INVESTORS ARE NOT HAPPY. >>NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF
INVESTORS ARE NOT HAPPY. >>NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN BROADWAY.
>>NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN BROADWAY. I THINK THE NEED FOR LIVE
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN BROADWAY. I THINK THE NEED FOR LIVE THEATER, THE CONNECTION THAT IS
I THINK THE NEED FOR LIVE THEATER, THE CONNECTION THAT IS MADE IN LIFE THEATER WITH
THEATER, THE CONNECTION THAT IS MADE IN LIFE THEATER WITH AUDIENCES JUST CAN'T BE MADE
MADE IN LIFE THEATER WITH AUDIENCES JUST CAN'T BE MADE WHEN YOU ARE STREAM, AND LOOKING
AUDIENCES JUST CAN'T BE MADE WHEN YOU ARE STREAM, AND LOOKING AT IT ON A SCREEN LIKE THIS.
WHEN YOU ARE STREAM, AND LOOKING AT IT ON A SCREEN LIKE THIS. >>I WAS AT A GROCERY STORE THE
AT IT ON A SCREEN LIKE THIS. >>I WAS AT A GROCERY STORE THE OTHER DAY, AND THERE WAS A
>>I WAS AT A GROCERY STORE THE OTHER DAY, AND THERE WAS A TODDLER IN THE -- HIS MOTHER'S
OTHER DAY, AND THERE WAS A TODDLER IN THE -- HIS MOTHER'S LITTLE CARRIAGE WORKING ON A
TODDLER IN THE -- HIS MOTHER'S LITTLE CARRIAGE WORKING ON A COMPUTER.
LITTLE CARRIAGE WORKING ON A COMPUTER. I DON'T KNOW HIS AGE, BUT HE
COMPUTER. I DON'T KNOW HIS AGE, BUT HE CERTAINLY WASN'T FIVE.
I DON'T KNOW HIS AGE, BUT HE CERTAINLY WASN'T FIVE. >>HE WAS DOING THIS BUSINESS.
CERTAINLY WASN'T FIVE. >>HE WAS DOING THIS BUSINESS. >>THIS LITTLE iPAD.
>>HE WAS DOING THIS BUSINESS. >>THIS LITTLE iPAD. >>WHAT IS THAT TELLING YOU?
>>THIS LITTLE iPAD. >>WHAT IS THAT TELLING YOU? I AM NOT SAYING IT IS A GOOD
>>WHAT IS THAT TELLING YOU? I AM NOT SAYING IT IS A GOOD THING OR BAD THING.
I AM NOT SAYING IT IS A GOOD THING OR BAD THING. I AM SAYING LAST PROFESSIONS ARE
THING OR BAD THING. I AM SAYING LAST PROFESSIONS ARE BECOMING DESTOYED OF
I AM SAYING LAST PROFESSIONS ARE BECOMING DESTOYED OF INTERPERSONAL SKILLS.
BECOMING DESTOYED OF INTERPERSONAL SKILLS. ABSOLUTELY.
INTERPERSONAL SKILLS. ABSOLUTELY. >>WE ARE LOOKING AT NUMBERS,
ABSOLUTELY. >>WE ARE LOOKING AT NUMBERS, STATISTICIANS, YOU FOLKS AREN'T
>>WE ARE LOOKING AT NUMBERS, STATISTICIANS, YOU FOLKS AREN'T DINOSAURS, BUT MAYBE YOUR
STATISTICIANS, YOU FOLKS AREN'T DINOSAURS, BUT MAYBE YOUR DESCENDANTS, YOUR GRANDCHILD
DINOSAURS, BUT MAYBE YOUR DESCENDANTS, YOUR GRANDCHILD TRIED TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE,
DESCENDANTS, YOUR GRANDCHILD TRIED TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, COULD THAT GRANDCHILD BE AS
TRIED TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, COULD THAT GRANDCHILD BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS YOU FOLKS HAVE
COULD THAT GRANDCHILD BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN.
SUCCESSFUL AS YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN. >>WITH THE ART VENUE IS STILL
BEEN. >>WITH THE ART VENUE IS STILL ALIVE.
>>WITH THE ART VENUE IS STILL ALIVE. >>IS IT ECONOMICALLY
ALIVE. >>IS IT ECONOMICALLY SUSTAINABLE.
>>IS IT ECONOMICALLY SUSTAINABLE. >>VIABLE.
SUSTAINABLE. >>VIABLE. VIABLE.
>>VIABLE. VIABLE. YES.
VIABLE. YES. >>BROADWAY SHOWS ARE SO
YES. >>BROADWAY SHOWS ARE SO PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE.
>>BROADWAY SHOWS ARE SO PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE. >>THE LAST ONE --
PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE. >>THE LAST ONE -- >>"SIGN MAP" -- "SPIDERMAN".
>>THE LAST ONE -- >>"SIGN MAP" -- "SPIDERMAN". >>THERE WERE ACCIDENTS.
>>"SIGN MAP" -- "SPIDERMAN". >>THERE WERE ACCIDENTS. THE TECHNOLOGY WASN'T THERE.
>>THERE WERE ACCIDENTS. THE TECHNOLOGY WASN'T THERE. >>YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING, GET
THE TECHNOLOGY WASN'T THERE. >>YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING, GET INVOLVED.
>>YOU TRY TO DO SOMETHING, GET INVOLVED. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MOST RECENT
INVOLVED. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MOST RECENT OSCAR WINNER, "SILENCE IS
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MOST RECENT OSCAR WINNER, "SILENCE IS GOLDEN."
OSCAR WINNER, "SILENCE IS GOLDEN." >>I LOVE IT.
GOLDEN." >>I LOVE IT. >>SO DO I.
>>I LOVE IT. >>SO DO I. WAS IT A DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT
>>SO DO I. WAS IT A DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING?
WAS IT A DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING? >> IT IS NOT LIVE THEATER.
YOU ARE DISCUSSING? >> IT IS NOT LIVE THEATER. >>IT IS IN A WAY.
>> IT IS NOT LIVE THEATER. >>IT IS IN A WAY. IT IS IN A WAY.
>>IT IS IN A WAY. IT IS IN A WAY. IT IS ENTERTAINMENT.
IT IS IN A WAY. IT IS ENTERTAINMENT. >> THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE, A
IT IS ENTERTAINMENT. >> THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE, A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIVE
>> THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE, A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIVE SEETER AND OTHER FORMS OF
HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIVE SEETER AND OTHER FORMS OF ENTERTAINMENT.
SEETER AND OTHER FORMS OF ENTERTAINMENT. >>WE HAVE EXPRESSED THAT IN THE
ENTERTAINMENT. >>WE HAVE EXPRESSED THAT IN THE FIRST TAKE.
>>WE HAVE EXPRESSED THAT IN THE FIRST TAKE. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
FIRST TAKE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. IF YOU DO THE LIVE THEATER, THEN
I UNDERSTAND THAT. IF YOU DO THE LIVE THEATER, THEN YOU CAN DO THE OTHERS VERY
IF YOU DO THE LIVE THEATER, THEN YOU CAN DO THE OTHERS VERY READILY.
YOU CAN DO THE OTHERS VERY READILY. >>SURE.
READILY. >>SURE. THE TWO MOVIES THAT WERE UP HAD
>>SURE. THE TWO MOVIES THAT WERE UP HAD TO DO WITH THE BEGINNINGS OF THE
THE TWO MOVIES THAT WERE UP HAD TO DO WITH THE BEGINNINGS OF THE FILM INDUSTRY.
TO DO WITH THE BEGINNINGS OF THE FILM INDUSTRY. SILENT FILMS IN HUGO WAS ABOUT
FILM INDUSTRY. SILENT FILMS IN HUGO WAS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION AND
SILENT FILMS IN HUGO WAS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION AND CONTINUATION OF THAT.
THE PRESERVATION AND CONTINUATION OF THAT. I THINK WE ARE START TO GO SAY
CONTINUATION OF THAT. I THINK WE ARE START TO GO SAY "HEY, WE CAN'T DISREGARD THE
I THINK WE ARE START TO GO SAY "HEY, WE CAN'T DISREGARD THE ROOTS."
"HEY, WE CAN'T DISREGARD THE ROOTS." ON BROADWAY IT IS THE SAME
ROOTS." ON BROADWAY IT IS THE SAME THING.
ON BROADWAY IT IS THE SAME THING. REVIVALS DO BETTER THAN THE NEW.
THING. REVIVALS DO BETTER THAN THE NEW. AUDIENCE ARE SAYING "WE WANT TO
REVIVALS DO BETTER THAN THE NEW. AUDIENCE ARE SAYING "WE WANT TO SEE "SOUTH PACIFIC" WE WANT TO
AUDIENCE ARE SAYING "WE WANT TO SEE "SOUTH PACIFIC" WE WANT TO SEE "MUSIC MAN" I DON'T THINK IT
SEE "SOUTH PACIFIC" WE WANT TO SEE "MUSIC MAN" I DON'T THINK IT WILL EVER GO AWAY.
SEE "MUSIC MAN" I DON'T THINK IT WILL EVER GO AWAY. >>I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU.
WILL EVER GO AWAY. >>I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU. >>I HOPE SO.
>>I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU. >>I HOPE SO. >>ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT MY ROLE.
>>I HOPE SO. >>ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT MY ROLE. MY ROLE IS TO BE DISAGREEABLE!
>>ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT MY ROLE. MY ROLE IS TO BE DISAGREEABLE! AND IT IS NOT THE HARD.
MY ROLE IS TO BE DISAGREEABLE! AND IT IS NOT THE HARD. >>HE HAD SOWN SON'S GOES BACK TO
AND IT IS NOT THE HARD. >>HE HAD SOWN SON'S GOES BACK TO 19TH CENTURY.
>>HE HAD SOWN SON'S GOES BACK TO 19TH CENTURY. >>FROM THE DATE OF OUR BIRTH,
19TH CENTURY. >>FROM THE DATE OF OUR BIRTH, WHERE WE ARE NOW, TYPEWRITERS,
>>FROM THE DATE OF OUR BIRTH, WHERE WE ARE NOW, TYPEWRITERS, THEY ARE GONE.
WHERE WE ARE NOW, TYPEWRITERS, THEY ARE GONE. AND MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD THING,
THEY ARE GONE. AND MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND MAYBE IT IS NOT.
AND MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND MAYBE IT IS NOT. IF YOU CAN'T CHANGE, YOU ARE IN
AND MAYBE IT IS NOT. IF YOU CAN'T CHANGE, YOU ARE IN TROUBLE.
IF YOU CAN'T CHANGE, YOU ARE IN TROUBLE. >>MEDIA DEL ARCHA WAS DOING IT
TROUBLE. >>MEDIA DEL ARCHA WAS DOING IT IN FRONT OF 1500'S.
>>MEDIA DEL ARCHA WAS DOING IT IN FRONT OF 1500'S. WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS
IN FRONT OF 1500'S. WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF LIVE THEATER
WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF LIVE THEATER SUPPORTING WHAT IS GOING ON IN
OF YEARS OF LIVE THEATER SUPPORTING WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT BUSINESS.
SUPPORTING WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT BUSINESS. >>IN NEW YORK, THEY STILL DO
THAT BUSINESS. >>IN NEW YORK, THEY STILL DO STREET THEATER BA GOES BACK.
>>IN NEW YORK, THEY STILL DO STREET THEATER BA GOES BACK. >>THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, MARKS THE
STREET THEATER BA GOES BACK. >>THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, MARKS THE END OF THIS BEGINNING.
>>THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, MARKS THE END OF THIS BEGINNING. I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
END OF THIS BEGINNING. I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS HAS BEEN MY --
I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS HAS BEEN MY -- >>YOU HAVE MADE THIS SO FABULOUS
THIS HAS BEEN MY -- >>YOU HAVE MADE THIS SO FABULOUS AND EASY.
>>YOU HAVE MADE THIS SO FABULOUS AND EASY. THANK YOU.
AND EASY. THANK YOU. >>