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BERNIE: UPDATING YOU NOW ON
THE BATTLE FOR THE WHITE
HOUSE, THE BATTLE BETWEEN
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE AND
TEXAS GOVERNOR GEORGE W.
BUSH.
LOOK AT THE ELECTORAL MAP
RIGHT NOW.
THE GOVERNOR IS LEADING THE
VICE PRESIDENT 217 ELECTORAL
VOTES TO 172.
THESE ARE THE UNCALLED STATE,
THE UNDECIDED STATES: YOU
SEE WHAT KIND OF ELECTORAL
POWER THEY HAVE IN THE RIGHT
COLUMN:
BERNIE: THIS IS THE RAW VOTE
NATIONWIDE WITH 41% OF ALL
PRECINCTS REPORTING.
GOVERNOR BUSH WITH 22.6
MILLION TO VICE PRESIDENT
GORE'S 21.9 MILLION.
PERHAPS FEWER PEOPLE ARE
WATCHING THESE FIGURES MORE
INTENSELY THAN GOVERNOR
BUSH'S CHIEF STRATEGIST KARL
ROVE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, HOW
DO YOU COBBLE TOGETHER THE
270 ELECTORAL VOTES YOU
NEED?
>> FIRST, YOU NAMED A NUMBER
OF STATES GOING TO FALL INTO
THE BUSH COLUMN, WHICH
ALREADY FALLING ON OTHER
NETWORK, WISCONSIN, ARKANSAS,
IOWA, NEVADA, OREGON,
ARIZONA, ALASKA, COLORADO,
THESE ARE ALL STATES WE FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH AND 98
VOTES THERE.
IF YOU INCLUDE FLORIDA.
AND FLORIDA -- LET ME TELL
YOU, BERNIE.
YOU ALL CALLED FLORIDA
BEFORE FLORIDA CLOSED POLL,
FLORIDA IS A STATE WHICH
VOTES IN TWO TIME ZONE, THE
REPUBLICAN PANHANDLE OF
FLORIDA IN THE CENTRAL TIME
ZONE AND YOU ALL CALLED
FLORIDA BEFORE THE POLLS
CLOSED IN PANAMA CITY AND
FORT WALL BEACH AND PENS
COLEA.
WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT FLORIDA.
WE HAVE A FABULOUS
ORGANIZATION THERE.
IN CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
ONE, OUR GOAL IS THE
WESTERNMOST PART OF THE
PANHANDLE GOAL IS TO COME
OUT OF THERE WITH
80,000-VOTE MARGIN, WE'LL
COME OUT WITH 100,000-VOTE
MARGIN.
IN THE JACKSONVILLE AREA,
GOAL TO COME OUT WITH
12,000-VOTE MARGIN WE WILL
COME OUT WITH 20,000-VOTE
MARGIN, IN CLAY COUNTY 7,000
VOTES AHEAD OF VOTE GOAL.
THERE IS ONLY ONE COUNTY IN
THE STATE WE FOUND WE ARE
RUNNING BEHIND OUR VOTE
GOAL.
RUNNING BEHIND OUR GOAL
BEHIND 16,000 IN ONE COUNTY,
WE ARE MAKING UP FOR IT
ACROSS THE STATE.
THAT IS WHY GOVERNOR BUSH IS
WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE AND
THE WINLET WHITE HOUSE
TONIGHT.
BERNIE: WHICH COUNTY IS THAT
YOU ARE TRAILING 16,000?
>> ORANGE COUNTY HOPED TO
WIN IT BY 10 BUT PINELLAS
COUNTY WE EXPECTED TO LOSE
WE ARE RUNNING AHEAD BY
22,000 OF OUR VOTE.
IN DEMOCRAT PARTS OF THE
STATE.
DADE COUNTY, MIAMI
ANTICIPATED LOSING THE
COUNTY 50,000 VOTES WITH 12%
OF THE VOTE IN WE ARE UP
8,000 VOTES, IN BOWARD STILL
WINNING STATEWIDE WITH ABOUT
JUST OVER A QUARTER OF THE
VOTE AND ONLY 35,000 DOWN
AND IN PALM BEACH WITH HALF
THE VOTE IN WE ANTICIPATED
RUNNING 80,000 VOTES DOWN WE
ARE ONLY 30,000 DOWN.
STRONGER IN THE REPUBLICAN
AREAS THAN WE NEED TO AND
MUCH STRONGER IN THE
DEMOCRAT AREAS AND VERY
COMFORTABLE WHERE WE ARE IN
FLORIDA.
BERNIE: TWO POINTS WE HAD
DIFFICULTY WITH THE VNS DATA
WE RECEIVED.
THE OTHER POINT IS OUR
CRITERION FOR CALLING RACES
WE DO SO WHEN 75% OF THE
PRECINCTS IN A STATE HAVE
CLOSED.
QUESTION:
>> I THINK THAT IS ONE
CRITERIA YOU MIGHT WANT TO
THINK ABOUT CHANGING, AGAIN,
YOU CALLED THE STATE BEFORE
THE POLLS CLOSED.
IN A CONSIDERABLE PART OF
THE STATE, AND THE RESULTS
ARE CLEAR TONIGHT, THAT PART
OF THE STATE IS THE
PANHANDLE IS VOTING
OVERWHELMINGLY FOR GOVERNOR
BUSH AND MAYBE SOMETHING TO
DO YET NUMBERS YOU USED IN
THE EARLIER PROJECTION WERE
WRONG.
JEFF: KARL, IT'S JEFF
GREENFIELD ARE THERE OTHER
STATES CALLED FOR AL GORE
YOU WOULD SAY TO US, WATCH,
IT YOU MAY BE WRONG ABOUT
THOSE TOO?
>> I THINK ONE OF THEM MAY
BE NEW MEXICO.
WE'LL WATCH AND SEE.
I THINK THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF
CALLING STATES ON THE BASIS
OF EXIT POLLING NEEDS TO BE
TAKEN A SERIOUS LOOK AT LIKE
THE ISSUE OF RUNNING ALL THE
POLLS IN THE MIDST OF THE
CAMPAIGN, BACK TO THE MAIN
ISSUE AT HAND, GOVERNOR BUSH
WITH 217 ELECTORAL VOTES HAS
EASIER PATH TO 270 THAN DOES
AL GORE.
WE HAVE A BUNCH OF STATES IN
THE WEST GOVERNOR BUSH IS
EXPECTED TO WIN AND WILL
WIN, AND WHAT'S LEFT IN THE
MIDWEST, WE FEEL VERY
COMFORTABLE WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE WISCONSIN AND IOWA FOR
CERTAIN, AND ARKANSAS AS
WELL.
BERNIE: AND NOTWITHSTANDING
THE FACT YOU HAVE CALIFORNIA,
HAWAII, OREGON, WASHINGTON
STILL TO BE CALLED.
>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A
COUPLE OF THOSE STATE, ALL
WE NEED UNDER YOUR
CALCULATION IS 58 ELECTORAL
VOTE, FLORIDA PROVIDES HALF
WITH 25 AND GET INTO
WISCONSIN WITH 11.
IOWA WITH 7.
ARKANSAS WITH 6.
OREGON WITH 7.
NEVADA WITH 8.
COLORAD WITH 8.
ALASKA WITH 3 AND WE'RE MORE
THAN ENOUGH THERE.
BERNIE: WE PUT FLORIDA BACK
IN THE TOO CLOSE TO CALL
CATEGORY.
YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE GOING
TO TAKE FLORIDA?
>> YOU ASKED ME HOW WE'RE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT,
YES, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
FLORIDA.
BERNIE: KARL ROVE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION BILL
SCHNEIDER.
BILL: DO YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE
GOING TO TAKE OREGON NOW.
>> I BELIEVE WE WILL.
OREGON IS A LOGISTICAL
EFFORT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW,
DR. SCHNEIDER THEY VOTE BY
MAIL.
ONLY 240 LOCATIONS IN THE
STATE YOU CAN DROP OFF THE
BALLOT, YOU HAD TO MAIL THEM
IN.
WE HAVE A MASSIVE EFFORT TO
PHONE AND MAIL AND ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO GET THE BALLOTS IN,
WE ARE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH
OREGON AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT
WASHINGTON STATE, ALASKA
GOING TO VOTE, VOTE LATE BUT
STRONGLY FOR GEORGE W. BUSH
AND DON'T BE TOO PREMATURE
ABOUT CALIFORNIA, AS YOU
KNOW, GOVERNOR DEUKMEJIAN
WENT INTO ELECTION DOWN IN
CALIFORNIA AND WON BECAUSE
OF THE ABSENTEE BALLOT, PETE
WILSON DID THE SAME, AND
WE'VE GOT A GRASSROOTS
EFFORT LIKE NOBODY SEEN IN
CALIFORNIA IN A LONG, LONG
TIME AND WE'RE COMING HARD
FOR CALIFORNIA AND WHO KNOWS
MAY SURPRISE YOU ON THE
OTHER COAST JUST AS WE
SURPRISED YOU IN FLORIDA.
BERNIE: KARL ROVE, THANK YOU
FOR JOINING US.
JUDY.
JUDY: IF I HEARD HIM
CORRECTLY HE SAID HE THINKS
THEY'RE GOING TO WIN,
WISCONSIN, ALL OF THE STATES
I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOT
CALLED.
WISCONSIfN, ARKANSAS, OREGON,
WE HEARD HIM SAY ARIZONA.
COLORADO OPTIMISTIC ABOUT
FLORIDA AND SAID DON'T BE
TOO PREMATURE ABOUT THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
SO THIS IS -UV THIS IS
SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN WATCHING
THESE NUMBERS DAY IN AND DAY
OUT, AND HOUR IN AND HOUR
OUT.
ONE LITTLE EXPLANATION GO TO
NOW, ONE OF THE STATES WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO CALL THREE-FOURTHS
OF THE ELECTORAL VOTES IS
THE STATE OF MAINE.
THE WAY IT WORKS IN MAINE
ONLY ONE OTHER STATE WORKS
THIS WAY, THAT'S NEBRASKA.
THE ELECTORAL VOTES ARE
AWARDED NOT WINNER TAKE ALL
BY THE WHOLE STATE BUT
AWARDED BY CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT.
THE PERSON WHO GETS THE MOST
VOTES IN THE STATE GETS TWO
FOR THE STATE PLUS GETS THE
ONE THEY HAVE A MAJORITY IN.
JEFF: THAT'S RIGHT, WHAT WE
DON'T KNOW IS THE OTHER
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN
THE BALANCE.
AND THE WAY THIS ELECTION IS
GOING, JUDY, THAT ONE
ELECTORAL VOTE CAN BE VERY
LARGE.
JUDY: VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND SOME OF THESE STATES
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE,
SOME OF THE ONES -- YOU KNOW,
ARKANSAS, 6; OREGON IS A
LITTLE MORE, IT'S 7.
JEFF: NEVADA.
BERNIE: WE SHOULD MENTION
SOMETHING TO EXPLAIN WHAT
KARL SAID.
OREGON IS THE ONLY STATE
THAT HAD NO POLLING PLACES
TODAY.
OREGON ELECTION WAS
CONDUCTED ENTIRELY BY MAY.
WHAT KARL ROVE TOLD US WAS
THEY HAD A CONCERTED
ORGANIZED EFFORT IN OREGON
TO GET THE VOTE OUT BY THE
BUSH SUPPORTERS THAT'S WHY
THEY BELIEVE THEY'LL WIN THE
STATE A LITTLE HELP FROM
RALPH NADER'S VOTERS THEY
HAD A WAY OF ORGANIZING THE
VOTING TO GET THE MAIL
BALLOTING IN FOR
GEORGE W. BUSH.
IT'S A VERY UNUSUAL STATE.
THERE WERE NO POLLING
PLACES.
JUDY: NO EXIT POLLS EITHER.
JEFF: WE'LL KNOW SOON, WHEN
THE DEADLINE HAPPENS THE
VOTES ARE OPEN AND COUNT THE
RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
COUNTED BY COMPUTER.
HERE WE ARE.
BERNIE: THEY DO IT FASTER IN
OREGON THAN WASHINGTON.
JUDY: GENTLEMEN, WE NEED TO
GET OVER TO THE BALANCE OF
POWER DESK TO HEAR ABOUT THE
VERY IMPORTANT
NONPRESIDENTIAL RACES, WOLF.
WOLF: WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
THE U.S. SENATE, AS YOU KNOW
THE REPUBLICANS HAD A 54-46
MAJORITY.
RIGHT NOW THIS IS WHAT IT
LOOKS LIKE:
RIGHT NOW THE NEW TOTAL,
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE
CAN PROJECT, IT WILL BE 49
REPUBLICANS IN THE U.S.
SENATE AS OF RIGHT NOW, 44
DEMOCRATS.
7 OF THOSE SENATE SEATS
STILL UNDECIDED.
WE CAN CALL ORRIN HATCH, THE
REPUBLICAN FROM UTAH, THE
WINNER, THE FORMER
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR
THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION.
HE WON.
THERE'S A VERY CLOSE RACE
GOING ON IN MISSOURI,
SENATOR JOHN ASHCROFT
INCUMBENT FACING MEL
CARNAHAN, THE GOVERNOR WHO
PASSED AWAY IN A PLANE CRASH
ONLY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO,
VERY CLOSE RAERKS THERE WAS
A CONTROVERSY A LITTLE WHILE
AGO, EARLIER THIS EVENING A
LOWER COURT JUDGE IN
MISSOURI KEPT THE POLLS OPEN
FOR A WHILE.
THEY WERE CLOSED BY APPEALS
JUDGE BUT THE REPUBLICAN
INCUMBENT KEPT ON SPEAKING
OUT IN MISSOURI EARLIER
LAMENTED THAT DECISION TO
KEEP THE POLLS OPEN A BIT
LONGER, LISTEN TO THIS.
>> SO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
IN THE STEVE ST. LOUIS,
WANTS TO PERPETRATE THE
BIGGEST FRAUD ON THE VOTERS
OF THIS STATE, AND ON THIS
NATION THAT WE'VE EVER SEEN.
I BELIEVE THAT CRIMINAL VOTE
FRAUD SHOULD BE PROSECUTED
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]
WOLF: SENATOR KEPT ON
SPEAKING OUT EARLIER ON THE
DECISION TO KEEP THE POLLS
OPEN FOR A WHILE IN
MISSOURI.
LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THE
PICKUPS ARE IN THE U.S.
SENATE RIGHT NOW:
THERE ARE TWO REPUBLICAN
PICKUPS IN THE U.S. SENATE:
GEORGE ALLEN, THE WINNER IN
VIRGINIA AND JOHN ENSIGN,
HERE WE GO, THE WINNER IN
NEVADA BEATING ED BERNSTEIN,
CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY,
RICHARD BRYAN LEFT VACANT.
STUART ROTHENBERG WHAT DO
YOU MAKE OF THE BATTLE GOING
ON IN THE SENATE RIGHT NOW?
>> WOLF, EVERYTHING GOING AS
EXPECTED SO FAR.
THERE ARE FIVE COMPETITIVE
SEATS OUTSTANDING, FOUR
CURRENTLY HELD BY
REPUBLICANS, MISSOURI,
MICHIGAN, MONTANA,
WASHINGTON, ONE OF THEM HELD
BY A RETIRING DEMOCRAT IN
NEBRASKA.
IF THE DEMOCRATS TAKE
CONTROL OF THE U.S. SENATE
THEY NEED TO SWEEP ALL THE
RACES THAT'S GOING TO BE
DIFFICULT.
WOLF: THERE IS A FIERCE
BATTLE GOING ON IN THE HOUSE
OF REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL.
WE HAVE A SECOND PICKUP THAT
WE CAN REPORT RIGHT NOW.
THE STATE SENATOR MELISSA
HART DEFEATING STATE
REPRESENTATIVE TERRY VAN
HORNE, THE DEMOCRAT, THE
SEAT THAT RON KLINK GAVE UP,
THE DEMOCRAT, IN ORDER TO
RUN UNSUCCESSFULLY FOR THE
U.S. SENATE IN PENNSYLVANIA.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE
BALANCE OF POWER THE
HOUSE WITH MORE THAN 50% OF
THE HALF OF THE HOUSE RACE
DETERMINED.
ONLY TWO PICKUPS RIGHT NOW:
ONE DEMOCRATIC PICKUP, ONE
REPUBLICAN PICKUP, THIS IS
EXPECTED AS WELL, RIGHT,
STUART?
>> ABSOLUTELY WOLF.
A COUPLE OF VULNERABLE
REPUBLICAN SEATS RIC KELLER
IN THE ORLANDO DISTRICT, TWO
REPUBLICAN INCUMBENTS IN
NORTH CAROLINA, CHARLES
TAYLOR AND ROBIN HAYES HELD
ON.
SO MANY CLOSE SEATS IN NEW
JERSEY MIKE FERGUSON LEADS
MARYANNE CONNOLLY, PAT CASEY
A NARROW LEAD.
*** ZIMMER FORMER
CONGRESSMAN HAS A NARROW
LEAD AGAINST RUSH HOLT IN
NEW JERSEY DISTRICT OTHERS I
COULD GO ON AND ON BUT THERE
ARE A LOT OF CLOSE RACES.
WOLF: WE ARE FOLLOWING THE
GOVERNOR'S RACES WE CAN
REPORT RIGHT NOW IN THE
STATE OF THE UTAH:
>> THE RACES FOR THE
GOVERNORSHIPS ARE NOT ALL
THAT SURPRISING EITHER, ARE
THEY, STUART?
>> LESS SURPRISING IN THE
CONGRESSIONAL RACES YOU ARE
TALKING CONTROL OF A BRANCH
OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE
INDIVIDUAL STATES THEY ARE
PRETTY IMPORTANT.
WOLF: TO BUTTON THIS UP, THE
PROSPECTS OF THE DEMOCRATS
REGAINING CONTROL OF THE
HOUSE IN THE SENATE 10:45
EASTERN TIME?
>> STILL TOO EARLY.
DEMOCRATS NEED TO MAKE GAINS
OVER THE NEXT HOUR OR TWO,
WHEN THEY GET TO THE WEST
COAST THAT'S THE BEST
OPPORTUNITIES, THEY NEED TO
BE IN PLUS TERRITORY BY THE
TIME WE GET TO UTAH,
WASHINGTON AND CALIFORNIA
WHERE THEY SHOULD MAKE
GAINS.
WOLF: IN CALIFORNIA, THEY
ARE EXPECTING PICKUP,
DEMOCRATS IN CALIFORNIA?
>> PICK UP THREE OR FOUR
SEAT, ONE IN WASHINGTON, ONE
IN UTAH.
THE WAY THE EARLY RACES ARE
PLAYING OUT NOT DISASTROUS
FOR THEM BUT NOT GETTING THE
BREAKS THEY HOPED TO GET.
WOLF: ALL RIGHT, STUART
ROTHENBERG BACK TO BERNIE ON
THE NATIONAL DESK.
BERNIE.
BERNIE: THANK YOU, WOLF.
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