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welcome back to world view now
the events over the last 48 hours or so
in egypt had been truly horrific for anyone who's been watching
one person who I wanted to have a conversation with the specially
about this is my good friend unfit for what now
of it is the Gyptian up by birth he's been living
in Minneapolis Minnesota for
a number reviews where he's executive producer at American television program
Arab was an American a TV show called bill odom
which translates in English too with open arms and he's contributed to public
reviews all things considered
Minneapolis Star Tribune et cetera Smith hour of walking back and I wish was
under better circumstances my friend
hah good to be here thank you thank you dennis
a think that this is very interesting time and now
and the god knows what
the what's the next the that women every time he
you think you'll won't get any worse than it is it really is
it it gets worse and now this is really a big bro colder
the Indian equals fears
and at an amazing man I really didn't think the the military
got it in them I'm in the I thought they have
the enough stake in the country the
and the risk dissident did privilege
by have enough for confrontation or the Brotherhood so
the were we'll see what happens me just so that you have a understanding in the
with the way the events seem to have unfolded is that the
military decided after having removed said Morsi and the Brotherhood from
power
up they still had growing camps in two parts of the city of Cairo
as well as other parts of the country and as a this morning I read
the death toll was somewhere close to 550 people it's probably be on that at
this point and that's a government statement of course the yeah
good is claiming the numbers well into the hundreds is well into the thousands
um took to talk a little bit about what you know to be happening on the ground
there
well let it seemed alert the
the military decided the this is their chance
cement this is their chance and that they cannot wait on a long god they are
losing them
there might be losing some of this the support in the street and
up and the they decided to move with the
at the moment to look at to cancel major cramps or other we
and another square in the seem so I don't know %uh
I if the militia in Mentor minister who said we were gonna
professionally I don't know what he means by that you know I have been the
in the good old account more than five hundred people were slaughtered the
I don't know what perot that what professional that means it seems like
that very clumsy they don't know how to
and dealer grad will rest and
was professionally I don't know why you have to *** should people
too low to local Michael Palmer squares they claim
also took a range that they've been demonizing the Brotherhood for
almost a year now through their a sellout media
the you know it seems like the brotherhood of some reason to SAR
the the Jew during the Nazi time it's really amazing when the
average emerge if shenandoah casual
beverages division now the been transform
the with the hatred and bigotry again is
the their own people and a a *** population
so this is there a chance that they so it then they moved the modern-day know
the
a you know the international community the
you know the law so that our clouded americans love the quote so they could
do it
and the they did it and the
that's a lot of casualty here there and now we still love me know yesterday was
a 154
a now's 500 and months of so
a a little for never know what's all went with that
you still up the the counting is still going on
and and recent also have lost for colleagues at least
um all the reporting side too
you know based in the Gulf News as well as a Sky News cameraman and
and journalist with the another goes
and so mean it's it's almost as if they're being targeted at business into
a report last night by here
home NBC's Richard Engel whose
you know pretty much the preeminent for correspondence these days and
he was said that they were actually targeted where people actually shooting
at them that they were
there and more than just the the police response with it was snipers
that were deliberately targeting people and the number love
direct hits to heads and bodies
it's just that was what you hear it many
its I don't know where you know it seems like this is the cultural
the military all along the security in Egypt the
a of a you know or I remember one that said that
cindy is a a so-called private
the the security to see if some more
I rejected in Scopus any they want unless lott two-thirds of the people
so human a human lawyer from the human value will
*** human light not value in the this part of the world
and the you know you seen the Friday that the
by up to load the liberal on the left in Egypt
we did long amid the mean iraq was invaded under his nose and this is
happening under his nose now is resigning
now he said he has a a a conscious about
a this massacre and perfect the
that CC is getting his although from my his
the directly from mobloc you know this is both largest of
amendment common problem I'll that the one who was supposed to see
Egypt home at this is a personnel so you had a underground
you know people were aboard the in shoot to kill and the
they decided to no longer they can wait till
the to hear this kind of
a position that they have grievance do you honestly think that that they
crude bring back um Mubarak and put him in
in power no I don't think so that
neither cake they could the bring democracy back Morse's gone will block
is gone
they cannot risky that but the Mubarak a
he still has it his own deep state the National Guard is very strong and those
not so that they're not gonna move without Mubarak's endorsement said
that's a part but
actually did most of the damage the
Republican got and talk about almost likes Obama's senior
at so it's really a the
the military-backed important role the
that day now they have 17 almost twenty different govern our
generals back to the old days so they got rid of the opposition to the media
position on the media they got to the global is a political opposition
that dismantle all love legitimate political institutions the barman the
Constitution
and and that they brought the just a figurehead
the ugly months or dunno what this guy doesn't even know what he is
I mean he was too he was the first two days as the the supreme importance of
many reasons president
yet Mr and then you have Blouin
is the almost 80 years old but I'd ariel is
seventy-some what I resigned yesterday yeah I know but did it with that
what was the running the country before up up to that this massacre
so you bring to the salt got people yeah relied on I'll
much they know little the dirty politics or
low a the old the a a deep state of for Mubarak and the military has been
running this country for sixty years
and is very disappointing to see the people
toppled Mubarak are you know the amended the military to
to come back this is very disappointing pool but the moderate and
younger and that it will usually that they really paranoia it
the really there were put on oil the
Islamist up their own oil of the Brotherhood
they had disdain tooled the
religion and their own traditional cultural and
somehow they buy into this mauled or that the worst
is bringing into good and everything good has to come from the west
and and that and this the the
disdain and contempt of but their own tradition and their own
realize I'm not supporting a brother or the or any
a sort of a religious or
theology there well what I'm saying the
it's really a part of that secular a
moderate year that it really is a is started the
your incall only in party mode it would really it's a
it blows people that nationalist the
think the ma II technology
is the solution that all social a also she'll
problem associated ears and I picked up optical components of all this
well a you know that this is something that's going to continue for quite some
time
thank you for taking a few minutes I know you're worried about several
members of your own family and their
prayers and thoughts go out to them and you know we hope that everything your
is good with them as well thank you don't thanks for having me and keep the
good work
you know you as well keep the faith
you know took the US 11 years so it's you know only two and a half years I'm
still optimistic
I don't think we're gonna go back to the doc all the the
military-dominated the relation of this country its cool what
you can't you can know that he million people he's up with our what he's the
host a butler done
with open arms in Minnesota and he joins us today
home you view Dennis Campbell will be back after this