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A LOT OF FOLKS ARE STILL
UNDERWATER ON THEIR MORTGAGES.
WELL, WE'RE SEEING A DRAMATIC
ABOUT-FACE, APPARENTLY FROM
SOME TOP DEMOCRATS TODAY WHO
NOT ONLY VOTED FOR PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL,
BUT SOME OF THE VOCAL
SUPPORTERS LIKE BILL NELSON
AND RON WEEDEN.
AND CHAIRMAN MAX BAUCUS AND
OTHERS DEMOCRATS TORE INTO THE
HEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT GROUP
OVERSEEING THE MPLEMENTATION
OF OBAMACARE.
AND THESE ARE DEMOCRATS
QUESTIONING THE SENIOR ON
OBAMACARE.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE THIS
KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION WE'RE
NOT GOING TO FULFILL THE GOAL
WHAT WE SAID WHEN WE
LABORIOUSLY PUT TOGETHER.
>> AND THE AFFORDABLE IS BASED
ON THE COST OF THE WORKERS
INDIVIDUAL COVERAGE NOT THE
COST OF FAMILY COVERAGE, SO
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MILLIONS
OF SPOUSES AND DEPENDENTS IN A
KIND OF REGULATORY NO-MAN'S
LAND.
>> ARE YOU ARTIFICIALLY
RAISING THE COST TO ALL
TAXPAYERS BY TRYING TO LURE
PEOPLE ON TO THE EXCHANGE AS
OPPOSED TO GIVING THEM THIS
OPTION THAT IS MANDATED BY
FEDERAL LAW IMPLEMENTED IN
2014?
>> NO.
>> YOU'RE SURE OF THAT?
>> YES.
>> SO IF THIS COMMITTEE ASKED
FOR THE SPECIFIC DETAILS, THEY
COULD GET DETAILS?
>> WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH
YOU TO GET THE DETAILS, YES,
SENATOR.
>> NOW, WE DON'T EXPECT YOU TO
UNDERSTAND THE SPECIFICS OF
THAT.
IT'S CONFUSING, THE POINT IS
YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE THE NOT
HAPPY.
>> AND JOINING US NOW TARA
DOWDELL SERVED AS AN AID TO
FORMER NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR
JAMES McGREEDY, AND DR. MARC
SIEGEL A MEMBER OF THE MEDICAL
A-TEAM.
I STUDIED IT AS A NEWS ANCHOR,
THAT CONFUSED ME.
THEY WERE DEEP IN THE WEEDS.
AND WHAT I'M GETTING AT IT'S
DEMOCRAT ON DEMOCRAT BLOOD.
FOLKS SAYING I DON'T LIKE THE
WAY IT'S IMPLEMENTED.
THERE ARE RATE HIKES AND SOME
PEOPLE ARE CHARGING MORE
UNNECESSARILY AND CHARGING A
DIFFERENT WAY AND THERE'S A
PROBLEM.
AND IT REMINDS ME, I CAN'T
HELP, BUT GO THERE, OF THIS
FAMOUS NANCY PELOSI MOMENT.
>> WE HAVE TO PASS THE BILL SO
THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT IS
IN IT AWAY FROM THE FOG OF THE
CONTROVERSY.
>> Megyn: MARY?
>> IT'S KIND OF FUN TO WATCH
THEM EAT THEIR YOUNG THOUGH,
ISN'T IT?
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY IS
THINKING IT'S FUN.
>> IT'S FUN AS AN OUTSIDER
WATCHING ALL THE THINGS THAT
REPUBLICANS SAID WERE GOING TO
HAPPEN START TO UNFOLD.
AND THE LOOK, TO WATCH THEM
LEARN AND TO WATCH THEM LOOK
WITH ABSOLUTE SHOCK ON THEIR
FACES.
THIS IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT
VOTED FOR, AS NANCY SAID, BILL
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN
IT.
NOBODY READ IT.
THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO
IMPLEMENT IT AND HOW MUCH IT'S
GOING TO COST.
THE FACT THEY'RE SURPRISED BY
IT.
HOW CAN YOU BE SURPRISED?
WE KNOW THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF
DOCTORS, THEY MADE THE
ANNOUNCEMENT THEY'RE CUTTING
FUNDING TO MEDICARE ADVANTAGE.
THERE'S A LOOPHOLE OR A GLITCH
THAT NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IN
KEEPING LOW COST FAMILIES FROM
GETTING HEALTH CARE AND
UNIVERSAL ANNOUNCED THEY'RE
NOT PROVIDING HEALTH CARE FOR
PART-TIME WORKERS AND EVERYONE
SAW THIS COMING EXEMPT THE
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR IT.
>> AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAD
REPORTERS LAST WEEK, AND HAVE
DECIDED NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN
THESE EXCHANGES AND THOSE
WOULD BE LIKE THE EXPEDIA.COM,
AND I'VE BEEN REFERRING TO
THEM, ONLINE AND SETUP, THIS
IS HOW OLD I AM, MY MEDICAL
HISTORY, WHICH PLAN SHOULD I
GET?
WHICH GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED
PLAN SHOULD I GET?
AND THE STATES ARE SUPPOSED TO
DO IT INDIVIDUALLY AND HALF
DIDN'T AND DIDN'T BUDGET
ADEQUATELY AND WE TALKED ABOUT
RATE HIKES GOING UP AND THE
BRIDGE PROGRAM SUPPOSED TO
INSURE PEOPLE FOR PREEXISTING
CONDITIONS, THEY'RE OUT OF
MONEY A YEAR BEFORE THEY
EXPECTED TO BE OUT OF MONEY.
AND SO MANY PROBLEMS THAT WE
JUST DAY-TO-DAY WITH THIS.
IS THIS THING COMING OFF THE
RAILS?
>> MEGYN, FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE
EXPEDIA.COM, THE ONLY WAY I
TRAVEL.
IF OUR HEALTH CARE EXCHANGES
ARE SET UP THAT WAY THAT'S A
GREAT THING.
>> Megyn: WE SHOULD ENLIST
THEM IN HELPING.
>> EXPEDIA IS GREAT.
WHAT I WAS SAYING THERE'S
GOING TO BE PROBLEMS WITH ANY
IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY LAW AND
I'VE NEVER SEEN A LAW PASSED,
AND I WORKED FOR CONGRESS AND
THE MAN WHO PUT THIS LAW.
WHAT I FIND IRONIC ABOUT THE
CRITICISM, NOT ABOUT THE LAW
ITSELF AND PROVISIONS, BUT
CERTAIN PARTS OF IT ARE BEING
DELAYED AND THEY WANT IT DONE.
THEIR CRITICISM IS TO EXPAND
COVERAGE SO THAT PERSON MIDDLE
FAMILIES GET MORE SUBSIDIES
FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S
THE NATURE OF WHAT THEY WERE
CRITICIZING IN THE LAW.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAW THERE
ARE POSITIVE THINGS THAT COME
OUT.
>> JUST 5 MILLION YOUNG PEOPLE
NOW HAVE INSURANCE THAT DIDN'T
HAVE INSURANCE BEFORE.
GALLUP DID A POLL AND ALLOWS
PEOPLE TO STAY ON PARENTS'
COVERAGE UNTIL A CERTAIN AGE
AND MORE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE
COVERED.
>> Megyn: THERE'S NO QUESTION
THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
INSURED ARE GOING TO GET
INSURANCE BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE
BETTER THAN THAN BEFORE.
BUT THE QUESTION IS WHETHER
THE PEOPLE WHO HAD INSURANCE
PRIOR TO OBAMACARE ARE GOING
TO BE BETTER OFF.
DR. SIEGEL.
>> ALL DUE RESPECT TO TARA, A
LOT OF US ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
THE PREMIUMS.
AT THE EXCHANGES WE'RE TALKING
INSURANCE COMPREHENSIVE THAT
COVERS A LOT OF SERVICES
INSURANCE DIDN'T COVERAGE.
THE GLITCH, BECAUSE THE
PREMIUMS ARE SO HIGH, PEOPLE
FORCED OFF THEIR EMPLOYER
POLICIES ARE GOING TO COME TO
THE EXCHANGES AND MAYBE NOT BE
ABLE TO AFFORD THE POLICIES
THERE AND NOT HAVE THE FEDERAL
BACKING THEY NEED.
>> Megyn: THEY'RE GOING TO BE
SUBSIDIZED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, BUT THE QUESTION,
WILL THEY STILL BE
EXORBITANTLY EXPENSIVE.
PROHIBITIVELY?
>> THEY MAY NOT QUALIFY FOR A
SUBSIDY AND THEY MAY NOT
QUALIFY AND THE PEOPLE COME TO
THE EXCHANGES AND QUALIFY.
I THINK IT'S IRONIC AND POINT
OUT HOW IRONIC IT IS, MAX
BAUCUS OF ALL PEOPLE, THE
SENATE VERSION OF THE
OBAMACARE WAS ESSENTIALLY
CALLED THE BAUCUS BILL.
HE WAS PATTERNING OFF
MASSACHUSETTS AND THE
COMPUTERS ARE NOT MATCHING THE
ARCHAIC COMPUTERS OF THE IRS.
HOW ABOUT FIGURING THAT OUT IN
ADVANCE.
YOU GO TO THESE VIRTUAL
UNIVERSE AND TRY TO ORDER A
POLICY AND IT DOESN'T MATCH
WITH WHAT THE REST OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE POSTAL
SERVICE.
>> BECAUSE THE EXPEDIA.COM
VERSION OF THE EXCHANGES,
WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, I'M THIS AGE
AND BLAH BLAH.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LINKED
UP TO SOCIAL SECURITY AND
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND THIS
GUY, THE MAIN BACKER IS
SAYING, THEY'RE ARCHAIC.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT?
WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT IN
2010.
>> THE CB.
RELEASED A REPORT THAT THE
SUBSIDIES TO THE EXCHANGES ARE
APPROXIMATELY 29% THAN THEY
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.
THAT'S AS OF RIGHT NOW.
SO, IMAGINE WHAT THEY'RE GOING
TO BE A YEAR FROM NOW.
AND WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING
FROM?
>> THERE IS A QUESTION WHETHER
SOME OF THESE DEMS ARE TRYING
TO PUT DISTANCE BETWEEN
THEMSELVES AND THE LAW BECAUSE
A LOT OF THESE GUYS ARE UP FOR
REELECTION IN 2014 AND YOU
KNOW, NOW WE'RE REALLY GOING
TO START TO SEE WHERE THE
METAL MEETS THE ROAD AND
THAT--
>> THE RUBBER.
>> Megyn: THE RUBBER MEETS THE
ROAD.
PEDAL TO THE METAL AND RUBBER
MEETS THE ROAD AND 2014, THE
EXCHANGES AND THESE GUYS ARE
FACING REELECTION AND A
QUESTION WHETHER THIS SEE A
PROBLEM COMING AND SAY, I
RAISED ISSUES ABOUT THIS AND
TRIED TO GET IT FIXED.
>> WELL, I HAVE A DIFFERENT
TAKE.
EVERYONE MAKES FUN OF NANCY
PELOSI FOR SAYING HE WE WANT
TO SEE WHAT'S IN THE BILL
OUTSIDE OF THE CONTROVERSY.
>> Megyn: WE HAVE TO PASS THE
BILL.
>> AND EVERYBODY MAKES FUN OF
HER FOR SAYING IT, BUT THE
POINT IS, WHAT'S WRONG WITH AN
ADMINISTRATION SAYING WE'RE
GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE
WE PASS THE LAW THAT WE GO
BACK AND THE IF THINGS ARE
WRONG CORRECTING IT.
WE SHOULD WANT OUR GOVERNMENT
TO CORRECT ERRORS.
>> Megyn: IS THAT WHAT SHE IS
SAYING?
YOU'RE VERY CHARITABLE.
>> 100% WHAT SHE'S SAYING AND
I THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG
WITH THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S
RESPONSIVE AND PEOPLE WHO SAY
WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS
PART OF THE LAW, MY GOSH
THEY'RE WILLING TO RECONSIDER
AND YOU'RE POUNCING ON THAT.
WOULD YOU REMEMBER HAVE THEM
PUSH THE LAWS THROUGH AND NOT
MAKE THE CHANGES.
>> Megyn: READ IT BEFORE THEY
PUSH IT THROUGH.
>> AND CONGRESS READ IT--
>> HE'S THE ONE, HE'S THE ONE.
>> AND I THINK THE REAL
PROBLEM HERE IS THAT IT'S
HEALTH INSURANCE ITSELF IS
ARCHAIC, IT DOESN'T TAKE IN
THE RIGHT CONCEPTS.
IT TAKES HOSPITALIZATION,
OUTPATIENT AND NOW GOING TO
THE OFFICE.
WHAT ABOUT IN BETWEEN, WHAT
REAL PATIENTS ARE
EXPERIENCING.
INSURANCE AND I'M GOING TO
REPORT ON THIS NEXT WEEK,
INSURANCE DOESN'T FIT WHAT
ACTUAL PATIENTS ARE SUFFERING,
SO PREMIUMS SOAR AND THEN MY
PARENTS COMPLAIN I AIN'T
GETTING THE CARRY NEED ANYWAY
AND WE'RE EXPANDING IT.
>> AND GETTING CERTAIN
INFORMATION OUT THERE.
THIS MEDICAL THING IN THE
HEALTH CARE LAW REASSIGNS HOW
WE ACTUALLY DO HEALTH CARE AND
THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE
NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE
SEEING A NUTRITIONIST TO HELP
WITH EATING HABITS AND THINGS
LOOKING TO REDEFINE HOW WE
DELIVER CARE AND WE SAID THAT
INSURANCE AREN'T WORKING AND
WHY ARE WE TRYING TO DO THE
SAME THING?
>> AND BEFORE WE GO, CAN WE
HAVE THE NANCY PELOSI SOUND
BITE.
LET LET'S SEE IF TARRA IS
RIGHT.
LISTEN TO IT THEN.
STAND BY.
WE HAVE TO PASS THE BILL SO
YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT IS IN IT
AWAY FROM THE FOG OF THE
CONTROVERSY.
>> Megyn: WE REPORT, YOU
DECIDE.
(LAUGHTER)
>> AWAY FROM THE FOG SHE
SAID.
>> Megyn: PASS THE BILL.
>> AWAY FROM THE FOG OF
CONTROVERSY WAS HER LAST LINE.