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We are happy to have you here with us. We are going to spend a few minutes going over
What University Extension offers, our courses
and how you can earn credit at UT with our flexible course
offerings. Then we're going to have a question and answer session.
Dr. Mike Raney is here to provide some
impromptu advising for anyone who has some quick questions.
We received several questions via email in advance,
today, so we'll go through those first, and then we will
try to get through as many questions that you all submit as we can.
So let's go ahead and get started. I'm going to go through some slides, and
then we'll open the floor up to questions. So we are University
Extension. We are at The University of Texas at Austin, and we offer
flexible course options to anyone that's seeking to earn credit
from The University of Texas at Austin. We have three different course formats,
so that you can take courses at a time and in a way that works best
for you. First of all, we have our self-paced online courses.
There are more than 60 of these courses available in a wide variety of topics.
These courses are independent study courses. You
progress through the course work on your own,
and you can interact with your instructor through Blackboard.
Those courses are available in everything from anthropology
to mathematics, to psychology
and writing. We also have two types of
semester-based courses, and those are semester-based online
cohort courses. At this time
these courses are from the business school at UT Austin, the McCombs School
of Business. So we offer accounting, legal
environment of business and MIS through that particular format.
Then we also offer a large selection of semester-based classroom courses, these are
traditional courses that meet in the classroom at UT Austin.
They meet in the evenings so they're very convenient for anyone that is
working during the day or who is going to school elsewhere during the day.
Our courses are just
an excellent quality for anyone that's seeking to earn credit at UT.
All of our courses are approved by UT Austin colleges and departments.
They have the same course numbers as all
the other courses at UT Austin in the course inventory. They come directly from that course inventory
and they are taught by UT Austin, or UT Austin approved,
faculty. The cost is
very reasonable and it's a little different from what you may
be used to in college tuition. Our courses are
priced by the course, not by the hour and the course
fees are the same for everyone regardless of residency status.
So we have courses that are as low as $350
dollars for the course, to as much as $700 plus. But that
$700 is typically going to be for a 5 hour course.
Most of our 3 hour courses are $550 dollars, but that's about
average. Students that take courses with University Extension
can make progress with UT Austin core curriculum
courses, which can be transferred to
any other university and college, most other universities and colleges
nationwide. Those courses, in particular those core courses, will meet
core curriculum requirements at any Texas public university or
college. A lot of students also are using UEX courses to
complete prerequisites for professional school or graduate school.
People who are on their way to UT Austin, who
are hoping to transfer in from a community college or who are graduating from high school
and want to get a jump start, can take courses with us to
get into the UT classroom environment and start to experience
what it's like to be on campus and
the rigors of a UT Austin course.
A little more information about each of the types of courses that we offer...
going back to the self-paced online courses, I already mentioned that you can
communicate with your instructor through Blackboard. All of those courses are
carried in a Blackboard format,
platform, I mean. So you log-in, you can do your
assignments, submit your assignments, email back and forth with your instructor through Blackboard.
You have 5 months from the time that you register to complete all the course work,
and then you have an additional 30 days to take final, once you've submitted
your final assignment. The course
is structured so that you can submit an assignment and then get
feedback from your instructor and a grade on each assignment fairly quickly,
so that you'll know before you proceed too far into the course
whether or not you're understanding the material, because you don't want
to submit several assignments all at once only to find out that back at step
one, you had a misunderstanding that then affected your course work later on.
There are midterm exams and final exams.
All of the courses have a final exam and most of them have midterms.
Those exams must be taken in person, while the rest of the course work
can be done online from anywhere. You will need to go to an approved testing center to take
the exams. And that is just so that we can make sure that the person who is getting credit is
the person who is completing the course work. The semester-
based online cohort courses that I mentioned earlier, that are
offered by, or subjects from, the business school
those follow UT's regular semester calendar, so they start
three times a year, generally the Monday after the regular
UT semester begins. So for this upcoming fall semester, our courses
will start the week of August 29th, then in the spring they will start at the end
of January, and then they start in early June for the summer semester.
Those courses are also administered in the Blackboard format
and you can take those courses from anywhere, you just need internet
access, but once again, you'll need to take the exams at an approved testing center.
And we'll talk about what an approved testing center is, when we get to the Q and A session.
And then our semester-based campus courses.
These are very traditional classroom courses. They
take place on the UT Austin main campus after 5 PM.
Many of them meet just once a week for 3 hours, some of them meet twice a week
for an hour and a half, depending on how many hours the course is...
that would be for a three hour course. If you are a UT Austin
student already, UT Austin students that are concurrently enrolled can use their
financial aid for these courses, but they have to meet minimum
daytime enrollment hours, so we refer everyone to the Office of Student Financial
Services just to confirm before they register.
And here is a quick look at some of our
typical students. You can find additional student profiles on our website
but here are a couple, or a few students that really exemplify
who is taking our courses and how it's helping them. First we have Andrew Lupo
who is currently taking prerequisite courses for medical school
with UEX. We offer many science courses,
biology, chemistry, calculus and some other
courses that are required by medical schools, and Andrew is one of our students
that is working his way through those, with an eye towards medical school in the
fall of 2012. Kirsten Green is taking UEX
online courses to finish her degree at UT Austin.
She has a very common story.
She was a former student at UT Austin and she almost finished her degree.
I think she was just 2 courses away from completing her degree requirements
and then ended up leaving the country, but using our
online courses she is able to complete her degree from abroad.
Kaushlesh Biyani is one of our students who is completing
the Business Foundations Certificate with UEX, Kaushlesh
is a UT alum that got an economics degree a few years ago at UT,
and he has since decided to try to open his own business,
and so he is going through the series of courses for the business foundations certificate
to help really get his business started, successfully.
And then we have, I mentioned that many of our instructors
are UT faculty. Here are a couple of our instructors.
Wendy Domjan is a faculty member in the psychology
department at UT. She was recently named a recipient of the UT
Regents Teaching Excellence Award, and she teaches psychology
301 as a self-paced online course for UEX.
David Verduzco is a faculty member in the McCombs School of Business. He teaches
two courses for us. He teaches the accounting 310F
semester-based online cohort course and the finance 320F
classroom course. Those are both very popular courses,
and they are a part of the Business Foundations Certificate course
requirements. We've already mentioned Mike Raney, he's already said
hello, but here he is. I mentioned that he is the Assistant Dean
for advising in the College of Natural Sciences. He
specializes in first year success and retention, specifically, and he
speaks with University Extension students and UT Austin students all the time
including at his walk-in advising hours, which occur
on the UT main campus generally in the late afternoon/early evening
a couple days a month. This month he'll be meeting with students
after this info session and also tomorrow evening.
His office hours are always listed on the UEX website, and with that
I would like to open the floor up to some questions. I'm going to leave this
slide up; it has Dr. Raney's contact information and mine.
We will be addressing some of the questions
we've been receiving electronically while I've been talking.
And, so, Mike are you ready?
I'm ready. Let me start with one of the questions that was submitted ahead of time.
One student wanted to know specifically
why UEX courses aren't considered in-residence at UT
considering that they're taught by university professors, and you get UT credit
for them. Well it’s true that they all
count for UT credit, and it's also true that some of them are taught by UT
professors, but not all. Normally, in order to get
in-residence credit in any university you have to be admitted to that university,
so one of the features of the UT Extension program
is that you're able to take the UT courses without being admitted to UT.
That's kind of the main reason in-residence
would always require that you're admitted to that institution.
For that reason, and also because
not all the courses are taught by the UT professors, they can't
be considered in-residence. Now, that said,
there are a lot of opportunities for students
to still take them and still count them toward UT degrees, because
only 60 hours of a UT degree has to be in-residence, so the other
60 hours can be things like UT Extension. Also,
24 of the last 30 hours have to be in residence, which means, even in your senior
year you can take courses out of residence, much like what Kirsten is doing right now.
I have a question that
that might add on to that, Mike, if you guys don't mind,
somebody is kind of asking me, "So
if someone hasn't been admitted to UT, but
they hope to be in the future, does taking
courses with UEX...does that
help you?" Well, it helps
in the sense that if you're not admitted to UT because
you don't have enough credit hours or your GPA is not high enough at that point.
Certainly taking UT Extension courses would give you additional
credit hours, and assuming you do well in the courses, would improve your GPA.
A lot of people ask the question, "If I take UT
Extension hours instead of courses at another institution,
would that give me an advantage? Will that give me an edge?" And the answer is no.
The admissions office here at UT, when they look at admission criteria
for transfer students, they're looking at your cumulative GPA
for all college courses attempted. They don't go in and specify
where that college is or give advantage or weight to somebody
who took UT Extension courses. So, it's helpful
to take UT Extension courses because they're UT courses, and you know that they're
going to count in the UT degree. You're also getting familiar with UT courses,
and you're starting to get familiar with the campus. So there are many good reasons
and advantages for taking UT Extension courses but not in terms
of being admitted at UT. Yeah, I get that question a lot as well,
and another one that I get a lot
is... it was worded in this specific way by one of our
participants today. "I have an associate’s degree at a junior college.
Would I be able to apply to UEX?" Certainly,
but the residency requirement could be an issue because
normally if you have an associate’s degree you have 60 hours of college credit.
So if you were going to transfer to The University of Texas,
say from Dallas County Community College, and you were bringing an associates
degree, and you were bringing 60 hours of credit...Well, when you come to UT
assuming all 60 hours count, and they should, you're going to need 60
hours in-residence at UT. So in that particular case,
it's possible that UT Extension would not be able to help you
because you're remaining 60 hours that you need for the 120 that your bachelor’s degree requires
would all have to be in-residence at UT. Ok, so
at that point, they may have gotten a little too far?
They may be right at the
point where they've done all they can out of residence. Now
it's also possible that you might have a degree at UT that requires 120
hours, and you have an associate’s degree which is 60 hours, and you have
a lot of core requirements fulfilled. But it could be that
when you look at all the courses you took in your associate’s degree. Let’s say, for example
you took 4 semesters of a foreign language,
but you're applying to a science degree that only requires two semesters of a foreign language.
You may have semester hours in that 60 hours that isn’t going to directly
count for a requirement. And it could be that when you look at the UT degree
you might have 68 more hours that you need to finish and if that's the case,
you can take 8 of those hours with UT Extension, and then get to the point
where your 60 that you have left would be at UT. So it really
varies according to the individual’s previous and future
study. Yes. The other part of that question that I'd like to address,
and that I get a lot, is people asking how they apply to take UEX courses.
You don't apply, you just register for courses. That's the nice thing
about it. There's no application, no acceptance. You simply register
for courses. Now you have to meet prerequisites, but assuming that you
meet prerequisites, you're eligible and able to take UT Extension courses.
Great. Anne, do you have any additional questions?
Yeah I do. I have two questions. The first
is, "Is there a limit to taking UEX
courses that will transfer to UT?"
Again, yes, within the residence requirement.
If you're starting out, if you don't have a lot of college credit,
you can take up to almost 60 hours of,
theoretically speaking, you can take up to 60 hours at UT Extension
and transfer it to UT and count it into a degree.
Now, you've got, if you've completed the freshman year somewhere,
assuming you've got 27 hours and you're wanting to transfer to UT,
then you could take another additional 30 hours or so of credit
before you apply to UT. Ok, and, I
apologize if we're duplicating,
questions here. I have a
question from Marisa, and she says, "I am already
admitted to UT, and I want to take some online courses as well
as some courses on campus” which you've kind of touched on
but she says, "can I pay with financial aid
for the online courses?" No.
You can take UT Extension courses if you're also enrolled at UT
and financial aid can apply, but only if you're taking in the
classroom courses in the evening. Financial aid does not apply
and will not pay for the online courses.
Ok. That was a good question. So, the key there is that you have to be
concurrently enrolled as a regular daytime student at UT Austin
to use your financial aid. Yeah, if you're admitted to UT and you're taking courses
and you get financial aid. You could be considered full-time
and qualify for aid and receive it, by a combination of UT
regular day courses and UEX classroom courses,
but not online.
Right. Ok. The next
one. You have one more question from James
he says, "I live in Maryland, and I have 50 credit hours
at a local community college. Who should I contact to get those
hours reviewed to see how many will be accepted? I plan to
move to Austin in the next year or so, and would then begin courses
on campus." Well, he could fax me or email me
a scan of his transcript and I could take a look at it.
He could tell me what major he's interested in at UT,
and I could give him an idea of the courses he's completed so far
that would count toward that degree at UT, and then make recommendations
on additional courses he could take with UT Extension that would also count toward that degree.
If you go to the University Extension website
and click on advising, you will see my contact
information there. You could either email me
the transcript, or you could email me and ask me how to scan it
to my fax number. And I'm
going to go ahead and put that up here for everyone to see. That's our homepage.
You click on advising, and this afternoon,
once this info session is over, I will be updating this information here and putting
Dr. Raney's email information back up.
That's utexas.edu/ce/uex?
Is that right? Yes, or just
utextension.org, which is a little easier to remember.
Ok. Excellent. I do have one more question
that has just come in.
Let's see. I'm trying to understand the question. It's says,
"Do official transcripts from former universities
count or will unofficial or student
copies of transcripts suffice to enroll for a UEX class
that requires prerequisites?" Well, when it comes to
prerequisites, unofficial copies that students have
are fine. I sometimes will just talk with the student and get a sense
of their background and may get enough just from the conversation.
Now, they do have to turn in a transcript, as well, to the Extension
Office to meet requirements. For
example, for being exempt from certain
state mandated exams and some of those kinds of things.
Surely a student copy is fine for that purpose.
Ok. I have
one more question. From Sarah, again, "Do UEX
credits show up on your college transcript as a UT credit
or UEX credit? "Well, they show up on a UT transcript,
and they are part of a UT GPA, so if you're taking courses
at UT, and you go get a copy of your transcript,
courses will be listed there, and they'll also be computed into the UT GPA
but, yes, they are listed as courses taken with University Extension.
Ok. Those are all the questions that I
have for right now. One thing that I wanted to add
to the previous presentation, on just kind of the general
point...one of the things that I
like to point out is that another benefit from taking UEX courses
is that they're small. You might
take a chemistry class at UT that literally has 500 students
in it, and you might take that same class with UT Extension
and there are only 10 or 15 students in it, so there's a lot of individual
attention from the instructor, a lot of opportunity to ask questions,
a lot of interaction in class. So a
lot of students tell me, even UT students who could take
one of the courses on campus, that they prefer the extension version because it's almost always
a smaller class and a better faculty to student ratio.
That's an excellent point, and the other thing that I find really
interesting and beneficial about UEX courses is
that they're open to non-UT students. There's a really
nice mix, about 50/50 for some of the courses, particularly the business
courses, of college age students, sort of traditional
students, and non-traditional students who are working
professionals taking the courses in the evening.
It's a really great mix of points of view, and I know that
the business instructors, in general, find that that's really helpful for bringing
the real world into the classroom. Sure.
We have a lot of students taking extension courses who already have degrees,
who are working professionals, and they're coming back
for whatever reason, maybe to take premed courses, maybe to get the Business
Foundations Certificate, maybe to pick up some skills in statistics
or such, and they have a completely different perspective than
say a 19 or 20 year student. So it's almost always a really
good mixture, and the students are able to learn from each other
much more than a typical classroom, where maybe they are
all the same age or whatever. Yeah, the same life experience.
Ok, I've got a couple more. Oh, I'm sorry...go ahead Anne. Well, that kind of led into
just another question I just got really quickly.
That would also include military
people as well, right? That's right. Yes. We're finding
more and more military, people from the military,
from all over the world, are contacting us about taking UEX
courses. Now, of course, a lot of those are online
so there's not the interaction, but a lot of people who are
retiring from the military, or they've
just finished their service, and they're using their GI benefits
to take our UT extension classroom courses. That's right
and I'm going to go back to the UEX website because that was
one of the questions I have. It's about veterans and how they
would take our courses. And, again, if you just go to utextension.org,
our homepage...you click "I want to use my military benefits."
We have a section for each of the branches of the military
and then also for veterans. For veterans, it's a particular process.
Start with an office at UT, the Veteran Certification
Office, but it's...
they know how to help students work through the process and take
UEX courses, and we have an increasing number of veterans taking
classes. And we also
might mention the current military
personnel that are taking our classes...a lot of them are deployed.
I know recently we had one student who was going to be
deployed in Iraq for quite a while, and she ended up signing up for two
online courses while she was there because she was going to have plenty of down time
and internet access, so she was able to earn credit while she was overseas.
And what some veterans are doing, or current
service members, I should say...they know that their enlistment will be up in a year
or so, so they're starting to take UT Extension online courses
in the hope that they will transfer, move to Austin
and transfer to UT, and when they get here, they'll start their degree at UT
having already completed some of the core requirements. Exactly.
And since we've been talking a little bit more about the online courses
another one of my questions that I've got here has to do with
the approved testing site. You see that a lot whenever we talk about our online courses.
Exams have to be taken at an approved testing site, and
so people would like to know what does that mean, and how you go
about finding one. And this is something we encounter a lot over the summer as you
get UT students that are going home, but they want to take a class while they're away
and it's actually a very simple process. You
look for a university or a community college in the area
where you're going to be while you're working on the course, and you just check on their website
and call them and see if they have a testing center
and if they do, would they be willing to proctor an exam for you. This is
something that testing sites do for one another all the time.
There's usually a fee involved with that service, but once you find the site that's
convenient to you, then when you're ready to take the exam, you contact us
and we will send the exam directly to that testing center.
Military members can go directly to their Education Officer
for the same information.
I've never encountered a student who was not able to find a
testing center. Yeah. It would be very unusual to not
be able to do that. Yeah. I know we do have some students that are
in the Peace Corps, so they're kind of in remote areas and even
they've been able to find them. Yes.
I have another question that's come in from Paul.
I'm not sure if...I can't remember if you touched
on this, but he's asking, "Will the courses transfer to a
college other than UT, if I don't get accepted to UT?"
Well, in most cases, they should.
If you're taking a core course like government, or history or English
and you're going to go to another school in Texas, and then they definitely will transfer.
However, if you are taking some courses with UT Extension, and
you plan to go to school in North Carolina, there's really no way to know for sure
that they will transfer. What I always tell students is, ask
the receiving institution. If you want to go to South Carolina or
Kansas State or wherever, ask them if the courses
you take with UT Extension will transfer. There's almost always
somebody who can answer that, but in general, the courses should
transfer, and in most cases will, but if it's out of Texas
it's always best to check with the receiving institution
to make sure that it would be ok.
Ok. Great. That's all I have for right now. I've got one
more. This is one that
well, Mike, we can get the official answer from you, but I think I know the answer...
The student says, "I need to raise my GPA before applying to graduate school,
are UEX courses appropriate for that?" Yes, in
fact, I see a lot of UT students who've got degrees at UT
who now have decided they want to go to graduate school,
and they want to raise their grade point average to be more competitive.
One of the nice things about UT Extension classes is, if you're a former UT student
is when you come back, and you take UT Extension courses,
grades that you earn go into your old GPA at UT.
So, you can increase your UT GPA by taking Extension
courses. Now, if you're not a former UT student
you could've gone to another institution
and let's say you have a 3.2 GPA at that institution,
if you take UT Extension courses, those grades and grade points
will be combined into your old institutions grade points
for a cumulative GPA. And if you're going to apply to a graduate
program, they are going to ask you for transcripts from all institutions
attended, and when they get those, they will combine all of the courses you've taken
into a cumulative GPA. So that would also
be the case where UT Extension could help you raise
your GPA, whether it's a former GPA or a GPA
at another institution. And my understanding is that
for graduate programs at UT Austin specifically, when they
are determining your GPA for graduate admission purposes, it's the upper-
division coursework that they look at. That's correct, the minimum requirement
for graduate school at UT is a 3.0 GPA in all
upper-division courses attempted, and so if you don't have
that, and you take upper-division courses with UT Extension,
they can be computed in that GPA.
That's good, especially if you had a little too much fun as a freshman.
Well, we should also point out that if you're trying to go to graduate school
at another institution, not UT, it isn't necessarily true that the
GPA that they're looking for is based only on upper-division courses. It could be
that they're looking at an overall cumulative GPA of all college courses.
So, again, check with the institution that you've going to be transferring to.
Yes. Ok. That's all the questions that I have as well. Anne, has anything new come in?
Yeah, I do have a couple more. Another one from
Paul is, "If you've taken
UEX courses, what application process do you go through to get into
UT Austin?” Well, if you've taken UT Extension courses
then you would be considered a transfer student because you're not an incoming
freshman out of high school anymore. So you would then apply to UT
as a transfer student, and go through the transfer application process
where they would request a transcript from any college you've attended
and of course would also consider the UT Extension courses on your UT
transcript. And the minimum you have to have is at least
30 hours of credit in order to qualify to be admissible
as a transfer student. Ok, and is that
in combination with
like say, with courses at college
when you were 22, and now you're 38 and just getting out of the military? Yes.
Ok. Yeah, let's say you had 24 hours of community college
eight years ago, and now you are taking some UT Extension
courses, once you have the 30 hours, including the UT courses
you're eligible to apply as a transfer student.
Ok. Oh, I'm getting
a couple more questions here. "If I take
two three-hour online courses and take
two three-hour courses on campus, will I still be considered
a full-time student?" No.
Online courses don't qualify you for
full-time status at UT, because they are not in residence,
as we discussed earlier. Correct. Right, so that
is only the night-time classes with UEX
that...It's kind of complicated. It's a good question, and it's complicated.
It depends on the reason and who's asking you to be full-time.
If the question is, "I need to be full-time
because I'm getting financial aid, then
six hours of online would not help you. If you took six hours on campus
and six hours of UT Extension classroom courses in the evening
then you would be considered full-time for financial aid purposes
but there are lots of reasons that somebody might want you to be full-time.
You might be on your parents' insurance, and it might be required that
you be a full-time student. In a case like that, it's entirely possible
that the insurance would allow six hours online and six hours
at UT, but that's up to the insurance company.
Ok. And I have
one other quick question. I think you can answer this Sunshine. What is
Blackboard? Oh. Blackboard is the…
it's the course platform.
I guess I'm under the impression that it's used by most
universities. It's the official
online course platform for UT, and so if you're
enrolled at UT, all of your courses are in Blackboard, and
in many cases, your grades are on Blackboard. You submit assignments
via Blackboard, or you get assignments returned to you via Blackboard.
You might download documents from your Blackboard
website, and UT Extension online courses all go through Blackboard
as well, so you log in, you see your courses, you click
on them, and you can start working on them, and you can submit your lessons
online. You can interact with your professor online through Blackboard.
You can log into your Blackboard and see your grades so far
type of thing. So, that's the
UT, the main student log in for Blackboard. Ours is a little bit different.
This is what ours looks like, and then
that is the homepage for the business. So it's just the system that we use
to administer courses. That's where all the interaction happens.
All your organization of your course
is maintained. Ok. And are you guys
having some kind of on-site information session tomorrow?
Or is that...somebody's asking a question about that, but I don't know anything about that.
That is Mike's office hours. Yeah...this afternoon
starting in a few minutes, until 6 o'clock, and then again
tomorrow from four to six, I will be available here in my office
on campus to advise students,
to answer questions, that type of thing.
And if they can't make it, then email is always an option.
Yes. And I'm assuming you continue to have office
hours throughout the semester?
Yes, every month, I have two evening
times where I'm available for in-person advising.
I'm always available by email. Students can email me any day,
anytime they have a question, and then officially, in-person advising
occurs monthly. Whatever the two days that are posted on the web.
And anyone who has just some general questions about University
Extension is welcome to call our main line anytime during normal
business hours. That line's going to be answered and
an excellent student team here that will be able to walk you
through trouble-shooting, if you're having difficulty with the registration process
or if you just have questions about it. There's going to be someone here who
pretty much all the time that will be able to help you out. Ok, yeah, and
so I'm getting a question...and, in answer to your question, Paul.
Dr. Raney is the academic advisor
for UEX students, so you
can contact him via his email,
mraney@mail.utexas.edu.
And I just have one other quick question. Someone's asking when the semester
begins. Well, it depends. If they're asking
about an online course, and this happens a lot,
it seems to be very confusing. If you're in an online course
except for the couple of business cohort classes, there is no semester.
The course is entirely self-paced, and it
starts whenever you start the course, and you have up to five months to finish it.
If you're talking about a classroom course in the evening, then the
semester starts August 29, and it pretty much follows the UT
semester, as far as 15 weeks of the coursework
the same holidays, the same time for final exams
type of thing. And I'm going to go back to the UT website now because our…
I'm sorry, the UEX website. Because our calendar is listed
right there with our first class day and last class day and finals
so, that information is always there. We'll be posting the
Spring calendar probably in October at the beginning
of the month. And registration will start...that's something that's a little different
about UEX as well. Once our registration opens for each
semester, it stays open. You don't have to register
during a specific period of time, so that goes along with there not being a
application process. You find the course that you're looking for, and you register and
you go.
I think that's it for today. It sounds like we've gotten through everything and
thank you very much Anne and Dr. Raney for
being here to answer questions. Thank you guys for attending.
I hope we were able to answer all of your questions, and if anybody has any additional questions
please feel free to email
Sunshine or Mike, and they can help you
out with those. So thank you guys. Thank you
All right. Thank you. Bye.
Bye.