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Sigma Alpha Epsilon will now ban hazing as part of their rituals a in order to
bring new pledges into the fraternity
I should know that they have 240 chapters and one of the reasons why they
decided to do this is because since 2006
10 people have died as a result up hazy
or alcohol and drug-related consumption
now this is a bit of a disaster right because they've dealt with the number of
lawsuits a number
tragic deaths so they decided you know what we're going to get rid of hazing
altogether and of course %uh I'm pretty sure they're
tired of dealing with new technology and how any activity that they do is
immediately uploaded online and people can view it and in question it and tear
it apart
so it's interesting cuz in their explanation why they're getting really
were they talked about
how they're getting bad publicity the lawsuits
and one interesting thing and consider they said now
we used to be able to keep the stuff secret but because there's all the
pictures and the video is a center for my phones
no we now of course into lying about it but wait you're lying about it before
now you're liza revealed yeah so that's what the difference is
so let me give you their exact statement make it what you well they say we have
the experience the number of incidents and deaths
we have endured a painful number of chapter closings I think that was worded
very oddly right
Mike a number of deaths yet but we also ordered injured upheaval number
a chapter closings as a result in hazing research shows that he's a
which hides in the dark causes members to lie yeah
yeah it Hooper literally over a hundred years
this journey has been around since I think 1856
rate so it this is not a new phenomenon
you just keep getting busted on it but that's what I love about technology and
the Internet in all these new advancements right
says like y la to the churches are angry in you know I love that story the Mormon
guy who was a leader who was told that the different things about his faith he
went online and read about it
and was like really we believe that his job was to recruit others
okay so yes when you bring hazy into a light
it looks ugly it definitely does and I i mean that is definitely one of the good
sides of all this technology right cops hate it because now we're holding them
accountable for their actions
people who are accused of bullying hated because all the sudden we can see some
the sick disgusting things that they do behind the scenes
and look in this case it makes sense because people are dying when they don't
need to be done
however i did talk to someone who is very active in the black community
and I asked him you know what is the likelihood that something like this is
actually going to
be taken into account by all these different chapters member 240 chapters
in this particular fraternity
he said you know it's really up to good the campus
on the kind of environment that they have their sure
the entire frat can say our banning hazing but that doesn't mean that every
single chapter is gonna follow through with that
so I guess we'll see how it plays out in the future but there's
very elitist with the way that france do things because it's not just about
anything like you have to do like this whole
interview application process then they decide whether or not you're good enough
to be hazed
so ice again look I can't stand it I know they have a process by which they
pick the people that are in their fraternity that I understand
anymore I i get that part all the whole like
you know road now you're my I don't know what they call on my *** my little boy
my little brother whatever the whole thing is creepy right and and then
like tie my shoelaces drink like 28 gallons of milk or alcohol or whatever
it is like
played what have you and the in a reason is by the way so that you break down
there individual was a great
and you make them part iv: this new whole
Friday and that's what the military does to their breaking down
and able to back up toward army old one yeah but you don't think you're on your
own
derailed really good for mental health right and that's why I've always hated
frats
military et cetera like it's I don't mean I hated in general
I gotta lotta good so my best friends were in France look at me
but it's not for me right and so if they're gonna cut out some of the most
egregious portsmith that leads to by the way yes the most important thing
is the case actually dying night you're stupid prepared is closing in different
branches in Satara
if they're gonna cut that out and technology led to that
awesome absolutely iPhone for the win especially considering that deaths
related to hazing
as the 2013 was at 104
that's pretty big holes with a frat brother in the room we do have given us
the stink eye
yeah he is but you don't even go back I
good steva hazing doesn't kill people
the local people I
for every bag and the hazer but a good guys in Hayes
yeah nothing wrong with that yeah I never thought about Lacey or you the
good guy who stop the bad guys for hazing
are you know I case earthy yes there's hazing
and most the hazing is done
in a in a fun way but did a cross line of course a cross line
and then you have a budget drunk young people
but you guys where it always DeGeneres their lowest common denominator
yeah at bat *** happens I brats wanting to do stuff with one another's but
the player what is your bestie but apparently you know why I have to be
honest
I think there's a lot of weird homoerotic behavior
yeah I want to know what yet because you know why cuz it's like taboo but but
there'll be curious 10
the second acceptable way to do it I can again pat each other and the but let's
look at these all the time too
wanted to pay to guide the butt but there's more than others like I mean
enough without the T and but like with hazing that like insertion a bob checks
in a in a Manhattan now okay
married women get together they don't think like a how do we initiate this
woman into our club
oh I know let me put something up iraq I there there
there is in all of the day head there isn't always
*** insertion I am just our tax income but no
no I in my experience there wasn't any image but if there were
I and if they if there were it's big it's a whole humiliation factor right
it's a whole domination and I am I'm in charge
and you are the *** any to do whatever we tell you to do
and they make you do it so and up luck whenever fraternity
use the I want to point out are most returnees are about 50 people or sell
added 250 people you're have about 10 to 20 huard like
super hardcore the you live for this is our life
and the gold not so far the secret handshakes and the secret codes in all
this nonsense
and then there's like big 31 the middle and the people like me
who can give a *** about it you know worry you'd want to join a fraternity to
live in the house go to some other parties
and is in sports and that was that and I was considered a bad brother because I
didn't
I wasn't that into it and i'd like outside its so they like you know what's
you know I had those Asians you now cuz my
a corner the whole agency nada host returnees in a very wide
but I am it was fun I meet the dude moderate
like everything else in life do moderation is fine if you're an ***
any response when you go crazy of course bad things happen
but I'm generally in favor of more oversight of attorneys because
there is a lot of bad behavior that goes on
to last things on the super look it some other hazing you know you hear this
all the time to what degree is true I would have gas in the beginning there
was a true at all cuz I felt so
unbelievable an outrageous I but now I believe it
based on a lot of but evidence that I've heard anecdotally it sir
but the Elephant Walk with new holding a *** if rather big over there
guy behind right I do think about what we would you all the way
birthday I'll and they will and they are all one big certainly one right how
say that's not homoerotic is the most
non definition definitional thing I've ever heard the fans circle jerk
yeah and Blake cool you guys kidded
Ohio our job we are on the verge of
a builder go come on dude come alive right
and that leads to a final point which is was on smoking here is the misogyny to
yeah every dollar I make you my *** I'm gonna do this summer by later man do
that
thank and what lowest common denominator for guys what is it
miss out rate and so there's that whole a minute
to so look I i'm not as and keep returning as a sounds here
because like putting on all this I know by two guys or
my purse when you're all were great guys who are still great guys were in a
fraternity
Steve Michael sure all people et cetera okay all great guys in a paternity so
don't be too judgmental here
but is that there's a dark side to being a true the dark side great