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CJ and Bluffton South Carolina CJ
the voter felon bans are unconstitutional
yeah actually are ok the way out this my second call
but according to the 13th amendment which reached
neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except as a punishment for
crime
wear out the party shall it into a convicted shall exist within the United
States or any place subject to their jurisdiction when you get hurt
written in this country that you get what you can make seeking death camp to
perform involuntary servitude
and the 15th amendment clearly state that the right of the citizens of the
United States about
shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account
of great
caller or previous condition of servitude
so if you've been sentenced to a term in prison which is defacto
sentence out increase out
I involuntary servitude right it again it says that cannot be held against you
for
right about so technically buy that argument
it's over yeah and it's actually it's a it's a single sentence the right of
citizens the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United
States
or by any state I kinda race color or previous condition
servitude and the course as you pointed out the Thirteenth Amendment says
but neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except as a punishment for
crime
show exist in the United States I
brilliant brilliant so we're saying that under the 13th and 15th amendments
um a state banning felons from voting after they have
I after they're no longer in a position of servitude others after they finish
their imprisonment and their parole
it is a violation the Constitution well actually almost fifty
even it what's your once you even if you are Paul which
it's a place it doesn't really exist anymore they've gotten Federal style
system
for yesterday eighty percent we have to serve a mandatory eighty-five percent of
your favour
extern site instead basically on some sort of a sliding scale
Ryan what you're out a present now for example in my state
our Constitution explicitly state that the only people who is it voting rights
are bridged
are those who are still serving a sentence even if they're on the street
Mike what related to elections or campaign
so most people can't continue to follow can contort
they can talk until they complete their stance right longish
not in prison you can talk South Carolina right thing as other states
like Florida Texas Connecticut New York
I know connecticut does have this for sure argun has it
work you're convicted felon what's your present you're not allowed to vote
in most cases in for for life in most cases unless the governor issued a party
right forearm or out restore not
pardon but maybe just a restoration of route floodlights
although in this case I would be considered a right I say well they're
just giving you the privileged about
Ryan very interesting that can because if the government can take it from you
for life
then it's not a right I don't like the right to own a gun
well if the get this if the government stepped it because you don't you want to
present
but if you've done your time you completed your site in you still can't
legally own a gun without going back
being sent back to prison yeahh but I guessed right with us we don't really
have gun rights in this country
we just have a temporary privilege interesting point
interesting point which blows up what is it Miller always the case the Supreme
Court case that
that found the individual right to to own a gun in the second member
I start with HX hit me so I had miller with yeah i hella
that's it it was heller however CDC
right hello this is Tom yeah what I my point is that
if Congress has the power to decide it because yes you can be partly stripped
upper right
just like thirteen states and this thirteen states and half dollars border
bandits
right and if you ever need to know I'll get these voter band are purely for
racist reasons
you should look into the history of this oh yes personal info to ban
was in Alabama it was passed in 1903
and the state senator who passed it made it quite clear
that yes plan was to try to keep as many I
I use the word *** from Bali
yeah a state with what they thought was a legitimate will Paul
because up it's ok because the poorest nobody in congress was going to
challenge it
because they didn't want to right in 1903
to shopping provisions are already there right i mean this was this is just ate
just five years after
after a on assists and for that was true it's got the Sanford what always think
it's everybody call case
I in 1898 1888 was a plus the birthplaces
plessy versus ferguson thank you very much yeah that was just a few years so
this was just a few years after plessy and so
yeah of course they're not gonna challenger facets