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(Bill Britt)
COMING UP NEXT ON THE VOICE OF ALABAMA POLITICS
OUR GUEST TODAY IS STEPHANIE PETELOS,
FORMER HEAD OF THE COLLEGE REPUBLICAN FEDERATION.
ALSO, THE V-TEAM WILL LOOK AT WHY LUTHER STRANGE
IS BEING SUBPOENAED IN THE LOWELL BARRON CASE.
AND SPEAKER HUBBARD'S PROTECTION PAC NEEDS A LITTLE CASH.
HEY MIKE, HOW ABOUT A PAYDAY LOAN?
ALL THIS AND MUCH, MUCH MORE COMING UP NEXT ON THE V.
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WELCOME TO THE VOICE OF ALABAMA POLITICS
WHERE WE TACKLE THE TOUGH ISSUES,
SO YOU HAVE THE HARD FACTS.
I'M YOUR HOST BILL BRITT.
I'M JOINED TODAY AS EVER BY THE V-TEAM.
HI, ALL.
(Claire Austin)
GOOD MORNING.
WHERE'S THAT MONEY FROM?
IS THAT FROM OUR TRUST FUND?
>> I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME BRIBES GOING ON.
(Baron Coleman)
RUFUS IS TAKING BRIBES.
(laughing)
(Charlanna Spencer)
SHHH.
DON'T TELL ANYBODY.
>> THERE'S RUMORS OF BRIBE AFOOT.
ANYWAY, ROY MOORE HIT THE HEADLINES THIS WEEK.
THE CHIEF JUSTICE ALONG WITH TOM PARKER,
THEY ISSUED AN OPINION WHERE BY THEY SAID
THAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL REVISION COMMISSION IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
CHARLANNA, YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT HAVEN'T YOU?
>> I HAVE.
IT'S AN INTERESTING OPINION.
IT'S CASTED AS AN ADVISORY OPINION.
SENATOR BRIAN TAYLOR SPONSORED THE RESOLUTION IN THE SENATE
TO ASK THE SUPREME COURT FOR AN ADVISORY OPINION.
AND JUSTICE MOORE POINTS OUT IN THE VERY FIRST FOOTNOTE
OF HIS OPINION THAT THE OTHER SEVEN JUSTICES
HAVE DECLINED TO SPEAK ON IT.
AND THEN HE LAUNCHES INTO AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY HE DOES NOT
BELIEVE THAT THE TWO ARTICLES WHICH HAVE BEEN REVISED
BY THE CONSTITUTION REVISION COMMISSION
ARE IN FACT CONSTITUTIONAL.
>> WELL, THIS HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE.
I MEAN, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT THE CONSTITUTION
IS SUPPOSED TO BE REVISED BY CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
>> WELL, THERE ARE TWO WAYS.
YOU CAN EITHER DO IT BY AN AMENDMENT UNDER SECTION 284
OR YOU CAN DO IT BY CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
AND HE SAYS, WE DIDN'T DO IT BY AMENDMENTS,
YOU'VE DONE IT BY SOME SORT OF ROGUE
RESOLUTION CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT OF COMMISSION
AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
>> I MEAN, DO WE REALLY WANT TO CHANGE
THE CONSTITUTION THAT BADLY?
>> WELL, THEY'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS,
I GUESS, REALLY SINCE THE REGALEMENT ADMINISTRATION.
REMEMBER, LENORA PATE RAN ON THIS WHOLE PLATFORM
OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION HERE IN THE STATE OF ALABAMA
AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT FOR MANY YEARS.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIX MEDICAID AND CORRECTIONS
BEFORE WE CAN DO THIS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION,
BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
>> WELL, WE'VE GOT THE LONGEST CONSTITUTION IN THE FREE WORLD.
>> IT IS TRUE.
IT IS TRUE.
>> IF IT WAS A DOCUMENT THAT DID NOT NEED MORE AMENDMENTS,
BUT NEEDED WHOLE SALE CHANGE IT MAY
BE THE ALABAMA CONSTITUTION OF 1901.
BUT, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CALL A CONVENTION,
I THINK THE ADVISORY OPINION MAKES IT PRETTY CLEAR,
YOU CAN'T SKIRT THAT BY CALLING THIS COMMISSION,
SETTING IT UP, CALLING THESE PEOPLE COMMISSIONERS,
GIVING THEM FANCY TITLES.
>> WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW THE IDEA OF NOT HAVING A CONVENTION
WAS THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T WANT LOBBYISTS
OR SPECIAL INTEREST INFLUENCE.
I MEAN, YOU GO TO ANY OF THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS
AND THERE'S PLENTY OF SPECIAL INTEREST AND THERE'S PLENTY
OF LOBBYISTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN HOW THIS IS WRITTEN.
>> THAT IS THE REASON THAT WE HAVE THE LOWEST
PROPERTY TAX OF ANY STATE IN THE UNION
IS BECAUSE OF SOME SPECIAL INTEREST.
>> YEAH.
>> WELL, IF YOU SHOW UP AT THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS,
THEY SHOW UP AND THE COMMISSIONERS
SIT DOWN AND THEY'RE HANDED NOTEBOOKS OF SUGGESTED THINGS.
NOBODY EVER STOPS AND SAYS WHO PREPARED THIS?
WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
>> RIGHT.
>> WHO WROTE THIS?
WHO GOT PAID TO PRINT IT?
WHOSE PAYROLL IS FINANCING THIS COMMISSION AND ALL THE RESEARCH
AND ALL THE DRAFTING THAT GOES INTO SUCH A THING?
>> BUT, COME ON, WE'VE ALL WORKED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
WHO BRING THE IDEAS, WHO ARE, WHO WORK IN THESE INDUSTRIES
THAT UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED.
I MEAN, SO WE MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S A BAD THING TO SAY SPECIAL
INTEREST GROUPS, BUT THAT'S WHO DRIVES THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE PROCESS
IS WHAT JUSTICE MOORE HAS POINTED OUT.
NOW, THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT JUSTICE MOORE HAS POINTED OUT
THOUGH IS THAT HE WAS THE LONE VOICE.
BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY ONE PERSON WHO HAS SIGNED ONTO IT,
IT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE FORCE OF AN ADVISORY OPINION.
HE DID TELL FOLKS WHO WANT TO CHALLENGE THE PROCESS
HOW TO DO IT IN ONE OF THE FOOTNOTES.
>> WELL, I'M WITH JUDGE MOORE ON THIS.
IT WORRIES ME TO DEATH
THAT THEY'RE CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION PIECEMEAL.
BUT, YOU KNOW CONSERVATIVES
DON'T WANT THE CONSTITUTION REALLY CHANGED.
WE DON'T LIKE CHANGE.
IT'S THE LIBERALS THAT HAVE ALWAYS WANTED
IT SO THEY COULD RAISE THE PROPERTY TAX IN THE PAST.
AND SO THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS I THINK WITH IT.
ONE OF THE FUNNIER THINGS THAT'S COMING UP THIS WEEK
OR MAYBE SUSPICIOUS THINGS THAT'S COMING UP THIS WEEK.
>> SUSPICIOUS, THAT'S PROBABLY THE TERM.
>> IT IS THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL LUTHER STRANGE HAS BEEN CALLED
TO TESTIFY FOR THE DEFENSE IN THE LOWELL BARRON CASE.
I MEAN, THAT IS SOME WILD STUFF.
>> HASN'T THAT EVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY HERE IN ALABAMA
WHERE AN ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS BEEN CALLED IN,
IN A CASE LIKE THIS?
>> I THINK GOVERNORS HAVE BEEN LISTED IN OTHER THINGS.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES LAWYERS WANT TO MAKE A SPECTACLE.
DEFENSE LAWYERS WANT TO MAKE A SPECTACLE
AND LOOK LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING.
AND IT'S A GOOD SHOW FOR THE JURY.
IT'S A GOOD SHOW FOR THE MEDIA AND OH,
YOU KNOW IF LUTHER, IF ONLY THEY WOULD ALLOW HIM TO TESTIFY,
IT WOULD REALLY CRACK OUR CASE WIDE OPEN.
BUT NEVER THE LESS, HE'S NOT GOING TO.
HE'S TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
IF LUTHER KNOWS SOMETHING, TELL US WHAT YOU THINK HE KNOWS.
>> ALRIGHT, WELL I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A VERY DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY BECAUSE I'M USUALLY
THE ONE THAT SUBPOENA THESE PEOPLE TO TESTIFY.
WELL, AND HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SENATOR BARRON IS DEFENDING
HIMSELF ON IS A SELECTIVE PROSECUTION THEORY.
AND THE THEORY GOES THAT HE PAID A BONUS
TO ONE OF HIS STAFF MEMBERS AT THE END OF THE CAMPAIGN
AND THAT'S WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS PROSECUTING
FOR IS THAT BONUS PAYMENT.
THE ALABAMA REPUBLICAN PARTY MADE THESE SAME KINDS
OF BONUS PAYMENTS TO SEVERAL MEMBERS OF ITS STAFF,
THESE WIN BONUSES, AT THE END OF THE 2010.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY
AS SPECTACLE AS MUCH AS IT IS THE DEFENSE WANTING TO SAY,
ALRIGHT NOW, WHY HAVE YOU CHOSEN TO PROSECUTE SENATOR BARRON,
WHO WAS ON A DIFFERENT PARTY FROM YOU.
WHO WAS THE LOSING SENATOR THERE AND YOU HAVEN'T CHOSEN TO
PROSECUTE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO DID THE EXACT SAME THING.
SO, I'M LIKE YOU.
EITHER, EITHER ATTORNEY GENERAL STRANGE
HAS PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OR HE DOESN'T.
>> WELL, IN ALL FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW,
JUST TO OPEN THE BOOKS OF ATTORNEY GENERAL STRANGE
DID THE SAME WITH HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER.
THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES, HE GAVE HER A WIN BONUS.
THAT IS NOT ABNORMAL.
I'VE WORKED ON PLENTY CAMPAIGNS AND YOU GET WIN BONUSES.
>> WELL, IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO ME THAT,
THAT BIG LUTHER WOULD BE CALLED TO TESTIFY FOR LOWELL BARRON.
>> WELL, HE HAS FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE, SO.
>> YEAH.
WELL, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, YOU KNOW,
AS A JOURNALIST, YOU KNOW, I REQUEST INFORMATION
FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE OFTEN AND THAT,
YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO LUTHER SAID HE WAS GOING TO HOLD
THESE PRESS CONFERENCES WEEKLY OR MONTHLY.
HE HELD TWO IN A ROW AND HE HASN'T HELD ANYTHING SINCE.
THAT OFFICE HAS BEEN A BLACK HOLE OF INFORMATION
AND I THINK KEVIN TURNER, HIS CHIEF DEPUTY IS BEHIND
THE MESS THAT'S OVER THERE AT THE A.G.'S OFFICE.
THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
>> WELL, WHY DON'T WE INVITE HIM TO COME ON AND TALK TO US.
>> I HAVE INVITED HIM ON AND KEVIN TURNER TOLD ME HE WASN'T
GOING TO LET HIM COME ON BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE YOU.
(laughing)
>> IT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST MAN TO SAY THAT, BILL, I'M SORRY.
(laughing)
>> REALLY, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS.
>> I'M JUST SO LOVELY AND SWEET.
>> WELL, YOU ARE THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS.
>> THEY DON'T LIKE STRONG WOMEN.
WE BOTH KNOW THAT BY NOW.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW YOU ARE TALLER THAN MOST MEN WE KNOW
AND BETTER LOOKING AND SMARTER, SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE TOUGH.
>> BUT YOU KNOW LUTHER, COME ON.
EVEN WITH MY FOUR-INCH HEELS I MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK UP TO HIM.
>> YEAH, WELL THAT'S TRUE.
I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW JOE HUBBARD HAS MADE
A LOT OF HAY WITH THIS THING, THIS DIFFERENT THINGS
IS JUST NOT GETTING OUT HERE AND ALL THAT.
BUT, WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE.
YOU'RE WATCHING THE V, THE VOICE OF ALABAMA POLITICS.
OUR GUEST COMING UP IS THE FORMER CHAIR
OF THE COLLEGE REPUBLICANS, SHE'S GOT A LOT TO SAY.
STAY PUT.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
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(Bill Britt)
WELCOME BACK TO THE V, THE VOICE OF ALABAMA POLITICS.
OUR GUEST TODAY IS STEPHANIE PETELOS, CHAIRMAN
OF THE COLLEGE REPUBLICAN FEDERATION OF ALABAMA.
FORMER CHAIRPERSON I GUESS.
(Stephanie Petelos)
YES, SIR.
AS OF THIS WEEKEND.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
I GET THIS CHAIRMAN, CHAIRPERSON, CHAIR ALL CONFUSED.
I'M SHOWING MY AGE HERE I SUPPOSE.
I HAVE BEEN AN ADMIRER OF YOU.
YOU'VE DONE GREAT WORK AS THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE COLLEGE
REPUBLICANS AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT'S BEEN A REALLY INTERESTING YEAR.
IT'S BEEN FUN.
>> YOU NOW HAVE A NEW JOB.
>> YES, SIR.
>> YOU'VE MOVED ON.
>> YES, SIR.
>> YOU'VE GRADUATED COLLEGE.
>> YES, SIR.
>> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
>> YES, SIR.
I GRADUATED AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A JOB RIGHT
OUT OF SCHOOL ON THE MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS
REPRESENTATIVE FOR AN ONLINE COMPANY CALLED PROCTOR U.
WE'RE BASED OUT OF HOOVER AND WHAT WE DO IS WE PROCTOR ONLINE
EXAMS FOR UNIVERSITIES AND PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS
AND WE DO IT THROUGH WEBCAMS AND SCREEN SHARING TECHNOLOGY.
AND WE WORK WITH PEOPLE IN OVER 75 COUNTRIES.
WE WORK WITH OVER 500 INSTITUTIONS AROUND THE WORLD.
AND IT'S GREAT, I'M WORKING
FOR THIS WONDERFUL, SUCCESS START UP.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
WHAT'S THE WEBSITE?
>> IT'S PROCTORU.COM.
P-R-O-C-T-O-R-U.COM.
>> CAN'T GET ENOUGH FREE PUBLICITY, YOU KNOW.
>> THANKS.
>> DURING YOUR TENURE THERE WAS TIMES OF CONTROVERSY,
THINGS THAT CAME UP BECAUSE YOU ARE
IN MANY WAYS THE FACE OF THE NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY.
IN THAT YOU'RE YOUNG, YOU'RE PASSIONATE,
YOU'RE AGGRESSIVE, AND YOU DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE OLD GUARD.
IS THAT TRUE?
>> YES, SIR.
YOU COULD SAY THAT.
THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN SOME DIFFERENCES
OF OPINION BETWEEN PEOPLE IN THE PARTY THIS YEAR.
AND THE PARTY'S GOING THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES AND IF WE'RE
GOING TO WIN OVER THE YOUTH AND WE'RE GOING
TO WIN BACK THE WHITEHOUSE AND WIN BACK THE CONGRESS
AND THE SENATE, THEN WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES
IN HOW WE RECRUIT YOUNG PEOPLE AND HOW WE APPEAL TO THEM.
AND I THINK THAT THE PARTY HAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO PULL THOSE
PEOPLE IN, BUT IT'S BEEN REALLY INSPIRING TO SEE THE YOUNG
PEOPLE THIS YEAR COME TOGETHER AND SPEAK UP AND,
YOU KNOW, START TRYING TO FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY
WANT AND FIGHT FOR THE DIRECTION THAT THE PARTY SHOULD
GO AND HOW THEY SEE IT SHOULD GO.
>> IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SEE TAKE PLACE OR EVOLVE OVER TIME.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE REPUBLICANS, WE DON'T CHANGE VERY QUICK,
SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE
OF HOW YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE PARTY EVOLVE.
>> YOU KNOW, I JUST, I JUST WISH THE PARTY WOULD FOCUS ON MORE
FISCAL ISSUES AND WORK ON ELECTING STRONG REPUBLICANS
THAT WILL BUILD STRONG BUSINESS COMMUNITIES
AND THAT WILL HELP TO CREATE JOBS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
I KNOW TOO MANY FRIENDS OF MINE THAT ARE WORKING
AT DOMINOES WITH COLLEGE DEGREES.
AND YOU KNOW, TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST ENDED
UP IN A MASTER'S PROGRAM OR IN LAW SCHOOL BECAUSE
THEY COULDN'T FIND A JOB ANYWHERE AND THAT'S NOT FAIR.
YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE
THAN WHAT OUR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS HAD.
AND WE'RE THE FIRST GENERATION THAT'S NOT GOING
TO HAVE THAT IN AMERICA AND THAT'S REALLY SAD.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE FIGHTING FOR IS THE IMPORTANT
ISSUES THAT ARE REALLY EFFECTING OUR COMMUNITIES
AND REALLY EFFECTING OUR STATE AND THAT'S MAKING SURE
THAT WE HAVE A STRONG BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT
FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE ENTERING INTO.
IT'S A SCARY TIME TO BE IN COLLEGE
AND TO BE A RECENT COLLEGE GRADUATE, IT REALLY IS.
>> WELL, IT'S A SCARY TIME FOR OUR ECONOMY ALL TOGETHER,
BUT JUST STARTING OUT IT'S NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOME OF THE YOUNG FOLKS
HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ARE THE SOCIAL ISSUES.
AND WE SEE MORE AND MORE YOUNG COLLEGE REPUBLICANS
LEANING MORE LIBERTARIAN.
AM I RIGHT IN THAT ASSUMPTION THAT WE SEE MORE
OF A LIBERTARIAN BENT OUT THERE NOW A DAYS.
>> YES, YES, SIR.
THERE IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT VALUES FROM THE YOUNG PEOPLE TO
THE OLDER FOLKS IN THE PARTY AND THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE WORKING
FOR TO CHANGE IN THE PARTY AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE'RE IN SUCH A TOUGH TIME IN THE ECONOMY
AND IT'S SUCH A HARD TIME TO GET A JOB AS A YOUNG PERSON.
AND, SO THEY'RE MORE LIBERTARIAN LEANING JUST
BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY'VE GROWN UP IN.
AND WE GREW UP IN A DIFFERENT ERA AND A DIFFERENT TIME VERY
MUCH SO THEN PEOPLE YOUR AGE OR MY GRANDPARENTS AGE
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> YEAH, WELL WE GREW UP ON ALL IN THE FAMILY,
YOU GREW UP ON WILL AND GRACE.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW.
>> YES, SIR.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
AT THE WINTER DINNER AND I KNOW YOU BEING ON THE EXECUTIVE,
PART OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, YOU WERE THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW IS THIS SORT OF PURGING
ALMOST OF CERTAIN CANDIDATES FROM THE G.O.P.
PRIMARIES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FIT A PARTICULAR MOLD
OR SOMEBODY'S IDEA OF WHAT A REAL REPUBLICAN WAS.
YOU HAS SOME ISSUES WITH THAT, DIDN'T YOU?
>> YEAH, I REALLY DID.
I REALLY FELT LIKE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BEING CHALLENGED
ONT WERE BEING CHALLENGED
FOR WHO THEY WERE AS INDIVIDUALS, NOT FOR, YOU KNOW,
WHAT THEY DID WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
OR WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
THEY'RE BEING CHALLENGED FOR JUST,
YOU KNOW, PERSONAL REASONS AND JUST POLITICAL REASON AND
I THINK THERE'S A FEW LEGITIMATE CHALLENGES INVOLVING RESIDENCY
AND PEOPLE NOT FILING THEIR ECONOMIC INTEREST FORMS IN TIME.
AND LEGAL ISSUES LIKE THAT, BUT JUST TO GO AND,
YOU KNOW, CRITICIZE SOMEONE'S FACEBOOK FOR A FEW POSTS
WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, CAMPAIGN FOR ONE DEMOCRAT.
YOU KNOW, OR WHERE THEY GAVE LESS THAN $500
TO ONE OR TWO DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME INSTANCES OF PEOPLE WHO
WERE REMOVED FROM THE BALLOT WHO IT WASN'T MERITED AT ALL.
>> YEAH, WELL THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR PERSON WHO ON THEIR
FACEBOOK PAGE FAVORED JUDGE VANCE OVER JUDGE MOORE.
>> RIGHT.
>> NOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE ANY NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS WHO
FAVORED JUDGE VANCE OVER JUDGE MOORE BECAUSE THEY
DID NOT WANT TO SEE A REPEAT OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
WHAT SOME CALL, FIASCO.
AND THIS GOES BACK TO, SORT OF WHAT I THINK YOU
AND YOUNG REPUBLICANS ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW,
WE DON'T WANT TO GET TIED DOWN TO THAT PAST THAT DIVIDED THIS.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR FUTURE THAT UNITES US.
AM I WRITE IN THAT ASSUMPTION?
>> RIGHT.
YES, SIR.
AND WE NEED TO FIND THE 80% OF ISSUES WE AGREE ON AND FOCUS
ON THOSE AND NOT JUST FIGHT ABOUT THE 20 OR 10%
OF THINGS THAT WE DISAGREE ON.
THE PERSON YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS GINGER POINTER.
>> RIGHT.
>> AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S A LAWYER AND SHE,
YOU KNOW, HAS A PASSION FOR THE LAW AND I JUST DON'T THINK
THAT SHE COULD IN GOOD CONSCIOUS SUPPORT JUDGE MOORE
FOR WHAT HE DID AND HOW HE JUST BLATANTLY IGNORED A COURT ORDER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T VOTED VERY MANY TIMES,
I'M STILL YOUNG, BUT I'VE NEVER VOTED
STRAIGHT TICKET REPUBLICAN.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S OKAY TO CROSS PARTY LINES.
I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE DILIGENT
WHEN THEY'RE CHOOSING THEIR CANDIDATES AND THEY SHOULD
LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL AND NOT JUST THE PARTY.
>> WE'VE GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS.
WHAT DO YOU SEE IN YOUR FUTURE AS FAR AS CANDIDATE,
LOBBYIST, WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
YOU'RE A BRIGHT WOMAN WITH A WONDERFUL FUTURE,
WHAT DO YOU GOT IN MIND?
>> OH, I'M JUST GOING TO STAY AT THIS ONLINE COMPANY
AND SEE WHERE IT TAKES ME.
STAY ACTIVE IN THE YOUNG REPUBLICANS
AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY BIG PLANS, JUST FIGURING IT OUT.
>> WELL, WE WISH YOU EVERY, EVERY GOOD,
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR LIFE AND WE HOPE TO HAVE A LOT
MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN GOVERNMENT IN THE FUTURE.
SO, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.
>> OUR GUEST TODAY HAS BEEN STEPHANIE PETELOS.
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(Bill Britt)
WELCOME BACK TO THE VOICE OF ALABAMA POLITICS.
STEPHANIE PETELOS, SHE WAS GREAT.
SHE'S A WONDERFUL YOUNG WOMAN.
I THINK SHE'S GOT A SUPER FUTURE.
SHE EXPRESSED LIKE A LOT OF YOUNG REPUBLICANS,
THEY ARE LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THESE SOCIAL ISSUES AND MUCH,
MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT FISCAL ISSUES.
BARON, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THIS?
>> I DO THINK A LOT OF THE YOUNGER REPUBLICANS
ARE LESS INTERESTED IN THE SOCIAL ISSUES
AND MORE INTERESTED IN LIMITING THE SIZE
AND SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT AND LIMITING THE BUDGETS AND TAXES.
THAT IS WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS MOVING
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST THE YOUNGER PEOPLE.
I'M KIND OF CAUGHT IN BETWEEN THE YOUNG REPUBLICANS
AND THE OLD REPUBLICANS.
YOU SEE IT IN THE YOUNG REPUBLICANS,
YOU SEE IT IN MY GENERATION AND YOU'RE SEEING IT IN SOME
OF THE OLDER GENERATION THAT SAID ALL RIGHT WE'RE FED UP
WITH THE DIVISIVE ISSUES.
WE'RE FED UP WITH THE THINGS THAT CAUSES US TO DIVIDE.
LET'S GET BACK TO LIMITING THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT
BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE OVER HERE FIGHTING ON GAY MARRIAGE
AND ALL THESE OTHER TYPES OF ISSUES, IN THE MEAN TIME
THE DEMOCRATS ARE MAKING GREAT HEADWAY ON TAKING
THIS COUNTRY DOWN A PATH OF SOCIAL RUIN.
>> WELL, THE BOTTOM LINE IS PEOPLE CARE
ABOUT POCKETBOOK ISSUES.
THEY CARE ABOUT MAKING THEIR MORTGAGE,
THEIR CAR PAYMENT, THEIR UTILITIES,
THEIR GAS, AND THAT'S, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL THING
THAT THE REPUBLICANS BOUGHT BACK DURING THE REAGAN ERA,
THE REAGAN REPUBLICANS AND ORDER TO WIN THE WHITEHOUSE
AND THIS COUNTRY AGAIN.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO.
I MEAN, I'M A LONG TIME REPUBLICAN,
BUT SOCIAL ISSUES NEVER DETERMINE WHO MY CANDIDATE
IS FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE OR GUBERNATOR.
(Jack Campbell)
I THINK REPUBLICANS TRADITIONALLY IN THE COURSE
OF HISTORY HAVE SENT CERTAINLY THIS CENTURY,
UP UNTIL RECENTLY, REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR WALLET.
KEEPING THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF YOUR WALLET AND KEEPING
GOVERNMENT OUT OF YOUR BEDROOM.
BUT, WE GOT ALL THESE NEW LAWS THAT ARE PASSED.
REPUBLICANS TALK ABOUT LIMITED GOVERNMENT
AND THEY'RE ANYTHING BUT THAT.
>> WELL, EXACTLY.
I MEAN, YOU TAKE THESE LAST FOUR YEARS IN PARTICULARLY THIS YEAR,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS GOVERNMENT.
WE HAVE PASSED MORE IRREGULARLY BILLS
IN THIS LAST TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS.
WE'RE GONE TO REGULATING SUN TAN BOOTHS NOW.
>> WELL, THIS IS NOT A SMALL GOVERNMENT
REPUBLICAN GROUP HERE.
THIS IS A BIG GOVERNMENT REPUBLICAN GROUP WHO
IS MORE ABOUT, IN MY OPINION, LINING THEIR OWN POCKETS
AND POCKETS OF THEIR FRIENDS.
AND THESE SOCIAL ISSUES,
MOST OF THEM ARE JUST PANDERING TO THEIR BASE.
BUT, LISTEN, THIS IS TERRIBLE STUFF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THEY'RE BIG GOVERNMENT REPUBLICANS,
THEY'RE NOT LIMITED GOVERNMENT
AND THERE'S A LOT OF TROUBLE HERE.
>> CORPORATE CAPITALISTS ARE RUNNING THIS STATE.
>> RIGHT.
WELL, THE GOOD THING WE DO HAVE, AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS,
WE DO HAVE SOME MODERATE REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE.
YOU TAKE, I'M GOING TO SAY FOR AN EXAMPLE,
YOU TAKE SOMEBODY LIKE PAUL STANFORD
FROM THE HUNTSVILLE AREA.
HE IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN, BUT HE SEES WHAT THE SMALL
BUSINESSMAN NEEDS AND THEN CORPORATE WORLD
AND HE'S REALLY ELEVATED HIMSELF AND HAS BECOME
A VERY STRONG LEADER IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
>> HE'S AN INDEPENDENT VOICE.
>> YOU MENTIONED THE REGULATIONS.
GO ASK A TANNING BED OWNER AND A BARBER IF THEY THINK
THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IS THE GOVERNMENT OF SMALL GOVERNMENT.
THEY'RE NOT.
THEY'VE PASSED RESTRICTION AFTER RESTRICTION
ON BUSINESS AFTER BUSINESS.
>> PHIL GRAHAM USED TO SAY, I GIVE EVERYTHING
THAT DICKEY FLATS, AS HE'S A PRINTER IN MAHAYA,
TEXAS WHO NEVER GETS THE INK FROM UNDER HIS FINGERNAILS.
AND EVERY BILL I VOTE ON I THINK
HOW IS THAT GOING TO EFFECT DICKEY FLATS.
>> WELL, THESE FOLKS THINK IT'S HOW'S IT GOING TO EFFECT
THEIR BIG, THEIR BIG FRIENDS THAT ARE MAKING BIG BUCKS
OFF OF BIG GOVERNMENT.
BUT, ANOTHER THING THAT'S BEEN COMING UP HERE
IS THERE'S PUSH POLLING OUT THERE.
MIKE HUBBARD AND HIS CRONIES, THIS INCUMBENT PROTECTION GROUP
IS PUSH POLLING AGAINST OTHER REPUBLICANS.
JACK, YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, DON'T YOU?
>> WELL, I HAVE A CANDIDATE I'M WORKING
WITH IN JASPER COUNTY ROADS POLICE CHIEF.
LAW AND ORDER TYPE PERSON, VERY CONSERVATIVE.
GREW UP IN A GREAT CHRISTIAN FAMILY.
HER DAD WAS FIRE CHIEF AND SHE'S RUNNING AGAINST ONE OF
MIKE HUBBARD'S LIEUTENANTS AND ALREADY IN HER DISTRICT PHONE
SURVEYS HAVE GONE OUT SAYING, WOULD YOU STILL VOTE
FOR HER IF YOU KNEW SHE WAS BEING SUPPORTED
BY BARAK OBAMA AND THE LIBERAL N.E.A.?
THIS WOMAN IS PROBABLY NEVER VOTED FOR A DEMOCRAT IN HER LIFE
AND YET BECAUSE SHE IS NOT PART OF THE REGIME DOWN HERE,
SHE'S BEING SAVAGED BY PHONE CALLS.
>> AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT DISTRICT,
IT'S GOING OUT ALL OVER THE STATE,
EAST, WEST, NORTH, SOUTH ALABAMA,
THESE CALLS ARE GOING OUT SAYING,
IF YOU'RE CHALLENGING AN INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN YOU MUST BE
BACKED BY OBAMA AND THE AARP AND THE NEA AND THE WAR ON COAL.
I MEAN, WE KNOW WHO'S DOING IT.
THEY'RE NOT HIDING IT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, AND THEY'RE NOT DISCLOSING IT.
>> AND IN FULL DISCLOSURE THE SAME POLL WENT OUT IN LEE COUNTY
WHERE MIKE HUBBARD RESIDES AND HAS DRAWN AN OPPONENT.
>> RIGHT.
>> YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW THE BOTTOM LINE IS COMPETITION IS HEALTHY.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S AN ELECTED POSITION OR ANYTHING,
YOU DO NOT, NO ONE NEEDS TO HAVE A SELECTED HAND PATH
THAT WHERE THIS CANDIDATE, THIS PERSON, THIS BUSINESS.
COMPETITION IS HEALTHY FOR AMERICA AND AS REPUBLICANS
THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE IS IN COMPETITION.
>> WELL, THE ONLY...
>> WEED THE BADS, WEED THE BAD ONES OUT.
GET RID OF THEM AND LETS GET SOMEBODY IN.
>> YEAH, THE ONLY INCUMBENT PROTECTION PLAN THERE OUGHT
TO BE IS THAT YOU DO YOUR JOB AND DO IT THE WAY THE FOLKS
IN YOUR DISTRICT EXPECT IT TO BE DONE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT RAISING THE KIND OF FUNDS
THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD EITHER.
MIKE HUBBARD SAID HE HAD $10 MILLION ON HAND
FOR INCUMBENT PROTECTION; THEY GOT ABOUT A MILLION,
MAYBE A MILLION AND A HALF.
ISN'T THAT RIGHT, BARON?
>> WELL, STORM AND THE STATEHOUSE PAC,
WHICH WE'VE RENAMED DRIZZLE PAC, WAS DRIZZLING THE STATEHOUSE PAC
HAS, HAS RAISED A WHOPPING ZERO DOLLARS IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.
I MEAN, THAT IS NOT AN INCUMBENT PROTECTION.
>> WHAT STORM PAC DOESN'T REALIZE
IS IT'S ABOUT TO MEET TSUNAMI PAC.
(laughing)
>> WELL, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE SOMEWHAT TO DO WITH
ALL THE GOSSIP AND RUMORS OVER IN LEE COUNTY.
AND WE KNOW, OH THAT'S WHAT,
THAT MONEY'S NOT FROM OUR CHILDREN'S FUND.
OKAY, I SEE, I SEE.
>> NO, NO.
THIS IS A LEE COUNTY FUND.
>> GET THAT FROM LEARNING THROUGH SPORTS.
>> LETS TALK ABOUT, LETS TALK ABOUT THESE PACS
AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE CANNOT REALLY EVER TRACE
ARE THESE 501(C)3'S AND FOURS WHERE THEY'RE HIDING ALL THIS
MONEY, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
BUT, I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING,
I WAS JUST SCANNING SOME OF THIS YESTERDAY,
THE 2014 PAC, WHICH IS GOVERNOR RILEY AND MIKE AND EVERYBODY
ELSE, BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN ONE SENATOR $97,000 ALREADY.
WE'RE NOT EVEN OUT OF SESSION.
>> WHO'S THAT?
>> THAT WOULD BE THE SENATOR FROM LEE COUNTY,
SENATOR TOM WATTLEY WHO HAS OPPOSITION I THINK IN THE
PRIMARY, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT...
>> DEMOCRAT TOM WATTLEY.
>> THEY GAVE HIM 97,000, IT AIN'T ENOUGH.
>> WELL.
>> LOOK, AND TO BE FAIR WATTLEY
IS ONLY GIVEN BARAK OBAMA 4,600 OF IT.
(laughing)
YOU KNOW, LOOK, THIS WHOLE THING IS LAUGHABLE.
IT WOULD BE LAUGHABLE IF IT WASN'T SO SERIOUS
AND IT WASN'T INVOLVING...
>> IT'S FACTUAL AND IT'S TRUE.
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU KNOW, 2014'S GOING TO CHANGE
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN SOME WAY.
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE IN CONTROL.
JACK, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FUTURE OF THE PARTY IS?
>> IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY.
ALL I SAY IS I WANT MY 15 MINUTES OF FAME
TO COME ON NOVEMBER, ELECTION DAY IN 2014
BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE SOME THINGS.
>> WELL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME IN JUNE BECAUSE REALLY,
IT'S REALLY GENERAL ELECTIONS ARE NOT THE BIG DEAL ANYMORE.
THEY WOULDN'T BE PUTTING ALL THIS MONEY IN,
THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING ALL THESE PUSH POLLS RIGHT NOW
AND TRYING TO TIE THESE PEOPLE TO OBAMA HEALTHCARE.
AND PEOPLE, IF IT WASN'T IN JUNE.
>> THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP ALL THESE ONE-TERM WONDERS WHO DON'T
KNOW HOW TO RUN A CAMPAIGN AND CERTAINLY IS PROVEN
THEY SURE AS HELL DON'T KNOW HOW TO GOVERN.
>> WELL, IT'S GOT TO BE...
>> AND 22 OF THEM AREN'T EVEN RUNNING AGAIN.
22 OF THOSE FRESHMEN THAT CAME IN, IN 2010 WITH
THE SPEAKER HUBBARD FOR SOME REASON JUST AREN'T RUNNING.
>> WELL, IT'S A HUGE TURNOVER.
LISTEN, SPEAKING OF TURN OVER, WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE,
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