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YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. JUST LAST MONTH, HATE CRIMES
I AM H. WAYNE WILSON. JUST LAST MONTH, HATE CRIMES WERE IN THE NEWS ON THE EAST
JUST LAST MONTH, HATE CRIMES WERE IN THE NEWS ON THE EAST COAST WHEN A FORMER RUTGERS
WERE IN THE NEWS ON THE EAST COAST WHEN A FORMER RUTGERS STUDENT BY THE NAME OF DARVIN
COAST WHEN A FORMER RUTGERS STUDENT BY THE NAME OF DARVIN RAVE I, TAPED HIS ROOMMATE IN A
STUDENT BY THE NAME OF DARVIN RAVE I, TAPED HIS ROOMMATE IN A COMPROMISING POSITION, PUT THE
RAVE I, TAPED HIS ROOMMATE IN A COMPROMISING POSITION, PUT THE VIDEO ON THE WEB AND ADVERTISED
COMPROMISING POSITION, PUT THE VIDEO ON THE WEB AND ADVERTISED IT AS SUCH, AND HE WAS CONVICTED
VIDEO ON THE WEB AND ADVERTISED IT AS SUCH, AND HE WAS CONVICTED OF BIASED IN TIMDATION, A HATE
IT AS SUCH, AND HE WAS CONVICTED OF BIASED IN TIMDATION, A HATE CRIME.
OF BIASED IN TIMDATION, A HATE CRIME. WE WILL TALK ABOUT HATE CRIMES.
CRIME. WE WILL TALK ABOUT HATE CRIMES. WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS HERE, AND
WE WILL TALK ABOUT HATE CRIMES. WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS HERE, AND WE ALSO HAVE A PERSON WHO HAS
WE HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS HERE, AND WE ALSO HAVE A PERSON WHO HAS GONE THROUGH A HATE CRIME.
WE ALSO HAVE A PERSON WHO HAS GONE THROUGH A HATE CRIME. WE WILL BE TALKING WITH JERRY
GONE THROUGH A HATE CRIME. WE WILL BE TALKING WITH JERRY BRADY, PEORIA COUNTY STATE'S
WE WILL BE TALKING WITH JERRY BRADY, PEORIA COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY.
BRADY, PEORIA COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
ATTORNEY. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. >>HAPPY TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. >>HAPPY TO BE HERE. >>TODD HOLLIS IS THE FOOTBALL
>>HAPPY TO BE HERE. >>TODD HOLLIS IS THE FOOTBALL COACH AND HIGH SCHOOL COACH AT
>>TODD HOLLIS IS THE FOOTBALL COACH AND HIGH SCHOOL COACH AT ELMWOOD.
COACH AND HIGH SCHOOL COACH AT ELMWOOD. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT
ELMWOOD. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT YOUR HOME IN APRIL
WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT YOUR HOME IN APRIL OF 2011.
HAPPENED AT YOUR HOME IN APRIL OF 2011. >>YES, SIR.
OF 2011. >>YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US,
>>YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US, TODD.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US, TODD. POLLY HAYES IS WITH US.
TODD. POLLY HAYES IS WITH US. POLLY IS ASSISTANT STATES
POLLY HAYES IS WITH US. POLLY IS ASSISTANT STATES ATTORNEY.
POLLY IS ASSISTANT STATES ATTORNEY. I SUPPOSE THE BEST PLACE TO
ATTORNEY. I SUPPOSE THE BEST PLACE TO START IS FOR A DEFINITION.
I SUPPOSE THE BEST PLACE TO START IS FOR A DEFINITION. I WILL LET BOTH OF YOU TEAM UP
START IS FOR A DEFINITION. I WILL LET BOTH OF YOU TEAM UP ON THIS.
I WILL LET BOTH OF YOU TEAM UP ON THIS. WHAT IS THE DEFINITION.
ON THIS. WHAT IS THE DEFINITION. >>GOOD!
WHAT IS THE DEFINITION. >>GOOD! >>YOU CAN'T SHIRK ALL YOUR
>>GOOD! >>YOU CAN'T SHIRK ALL YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
>>YOU CAN'T SHIRK ALL YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES. >>I AM HAPPY TO HAVE POLLY TAKE
RESPONSIBILITIES. >>I AM HAPPY TO HAVE POLLY TAKE THE LEAD!
>>I AM HAPPY TO HAVE POLLY TAKE THE LEAD! (LAUGHING).
THE LEAD! (LAUGHING). >>BUT SERIOUSLY, FROM MY
(LAUGHING). >>BUT SERIOUSLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HATE CRIME ISN'T
>>BUT SERIOUSLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HATE CRIME ISN'T THE EASIEST THING TO DEFINE, LET
PERSPECTIVE, HATE CRIME ISN'T THE EASIEST THING TO DEFINE, LET ALONE PROSECUTE.
THE EASIEST THING TO DEFINE, LET ALONE PROSECUTE. WE WILL GET TO THE PROSECUTION
ALONE PROSECUTE. WE WILL GET TO THE PROSECUTION PORTION.
WE WILL GET TO THE PROSECUTION PORTION. IS THIS AN EASY WAY TO SAY "THIS
PORTION. IS THIS AN EASY WAY TO SAY "THIS IS A HATE CRIME?"
IS THIS AN EASY WAY TO SAY "THIS IS A HATE CRIME?" >>THERE ARE TWO STATUTES,
IS A HATE CRIME?" >>THERE ARE TWO STATUTES, FEDERAL HATE CRIME STATUTE AND
>>THERE ARE TWO STATUTES, FEDERAL HATE CRIME STATUTE AND STATE.
FEDERAL HATE CRIME STATUTE AND STATE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE STATE
STATE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE STATE STATUTE TODAY.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE STATE STATUTE TODAY. BASICALLY ILLINOIS STATUTE TAKES
STATUTE TODAY. BASICALLY ILLINOIS STATUTE TAKES A LIST OF CRIMES THAT ARE
BASICALLY ILLINOIS STATUTE TAKES A LIST OF CRIMES THAT ARE DEFINED ELSEWHERE AS CRIMES.
A LIST OF CRIMES THAT ARE DEFINED ELSEWHERE AS CRIMES. SO AN ASSAULT OR AGGRAVATED
DEFINED ELSEWHERE AS CRIMES. SO AN ASSAULT OR AGGRAVATED ASSAULT AND SAYS IF YOU COMMIT
SO AN ASSAULT OR AGGRAVATED ASSAULT AND SAYS IF YOU COMMIT THAT CRIME AND YOU DO IT BY
ASSAULT AND SAYS IF YOU COMMIT THAT CRIME AND YOU DO IT BY REASON OF THE VICTIM'S ACTUAL
THAT CRIME AND YOU DO IT BY REASON OF THE VICTIM'S ACTUAL PERCEIVED AND THEN IT LISTS A
REASON OF THE VICTIM'S ACTUAL PERCEIVED AND THEN IT LISTS A BUNCH. CHARACTERISTICS, RACE,
PERCEIVED AND THEN IT LISTS A BUNCH. CHARACTERISTICS, RACE, COLOR, CREED, RELIGION,
BUNCH. CHARACTERISTICS, RACE, COLOR, CREED, RELIGION, ANCESTRY, GENDER, ***
COLOR, CREED, RELIGION, ANCESTRY, GENDER, *** ORIENTATION, PHYSICAL OR MENTAL
ANCESTRY, GENDER, *** ORIENTATION, PHYSICAL OR MENTAL DISABILITY, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN,
ORIENTATION, PHYSICAL OR MENTAL DISABILITY, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN, IF YOU HAVE COMMITTED THE CRIME
DISABILITY, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN, IF YOU HAVE COMMITTED THE CRIME BECAUSE OF ONE OF THOSE REASONS,
IF YOU HAVE COMMITTED THE CRIME BECAUSE OF ONE OF THOSE REASONS, ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED, THEN IT IS
BECAUSE OF ONE OF THOSE REASONS, ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED, THEN IT IS A HATE CRIME UNDER ILLINOIS LAW.
ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED, THEN IT IS A HATE CRIME UNDER ILLINOIS LAW. >> SO IS IT TWO CRIMES IN ONE,
A HATE CRIME UNDER ILLINOIS LAW. >> SO IS IT TWO CRIMES IN ONE, IS THAT HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT
>> SO IS IT TWO CRIMES IN ONE, IS THAT HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS?
IS THAT HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS? >> YOU HAVE UNDERLINE CRIME.
THIS? >> YOU HAVE UNDERLINE CRIME. AS POLLY DESCRIBED, IN OTHER
>> YOU HAVE UNDERLINE CRIME. AS POLLY DESCRIBED, IN OTHER WORDS IF A PERSON COMMITS A
AS POLLY DESCRIBED, IN OTHER WORDS IF A PERSON COMMITS A BATTERY FOR INSTANCE, WHICH IS A
WORDS IF A PERSON COMMITS A BATTERY FOR INSTANCE, WHICH IS A TYPICAL PUNCHING SOMEBODY IN THE
BATTERY FOR INSTANCE, WHICH IS A TYPICAL PUNCHING SOMEBODY IN THE FACE, PUNCHING THEM IN THE ARM
TYPICAL PUNCHING SOMEBODY IN THE FACE, PUNCHING THEM IN THE ARM OR NOSE.
FACE, PUNCHING THEM IN THE ARM OR NOSE. IF THAT CRIME IS COMMITTED AND
OR NOSE. IF THAT CRIME IS COMMITTED AND IT IS COMMITTED SIMPLY BY REASON
IF THAT CRIME IS COMMITTED AND IT IS COMMITTED SIMPLY BY REASON OF INTENT TO SHOW CHALLENGE OR
IT IS COMMITTED SIMPLY BY REASON OF INTENT TO SHOW CHALLENGE OR ANTAGONISM TOWARDS RACE OR COLOR
OF INTENT TO SHOW CHALLENGE OR ANTAGONISM TOWARDS RACE OR COLOR OR CREED OR RELIGION OR
ANTAGONISM TOWARDS RACE OR COLOR OR CREED OR RELIGION OR ANCESTRY.
OR CREED OR RELIGION OR ANCESTRY. IN OTHER WORDS, I AM GOING TO
ANCESTRY. IN OTHER WORDS, I AM GOING TO COMMIT THIS CRIME SIMPLY OUT OF
IN OTHER WORDS, I AM GOING TO COMMIT THIS CRIME SIMPLY OUT OF ANTAGONISM TOWARD YOUR RACE OR
COMMIT THIS CRIME SIMPLY OUT OF ANTAGONISM TOWARD YOUR RACE OR TOWARDS YOUR COLOR OR TOWARD
ANTAGONISM TOWARD YOUR RACE OR TOWARDS YOUR COLOR OR TOWARD YOUR RELIGION OR TOWARD YOUR
TOWARDS YOUR COLOR OR TOWARD YOUR RELIGION OR TOWARD YOUR CREED.
YOUR RELIGION OR TOWARD YOUR CREED. THERE IS UNDERLYING OFFENSE
CREED. THERE IS UNDERLYING OFFENSE WHICH IS THE COMMON OFFENSE WE
THERE IS UNDERLYING OFFENSE WHICH IS THE COMMON OFFENSE WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IT IS
WHICH IS THE COMMON OFFENSE WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IT IS BEING COMMITTED SIMPLY BY THE
ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, BUT IT IS BEING COMMITTED SIMPLY BY THE PERPETRATOR FOR THE PURPOSE OF
BEING COMMITTED SIMPLY BY THE PERPETRATOR FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEMONSTRATING HIS ANTAGONISM,
PERPETRATOR FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEMONSTRATING HIS ANTAGONISM, HIS DISLIKE, HIS HATRED FOR A
DEMONSTRATING HIS ANTAGONISM, HIS DISLIKE, HIS HATRED FOR A PERSON SIMPLY BECAUSED ON THEIR
HIS DISLIKE, HIS HATRED FOR A PERSON SIMPLY BECAUSED ON THEIR SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTIC, NAMELY
PERSON SIMPLY BECAUSED ON THEIR SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTIC, NAMELY ONE OF THOSE THAT POLLY
SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTIC, NAMELY ONE OF THOSE THAT POLLY ENUMERATED, RACE, COLOR CREAKED
ONE OF THOSE THAT POLLY ENUMERATED, RACE, COLOR CREAKED ANCESTRY, RELIGION.
ENUMERATED, RACE, COLOR CREAKED ANCESTRY, RELIGION. >>HATE CRIMES HAS BEEN A
ANCESTRY, RELIGION. >>HATE CRIMES HAS BEEN A CONSTANTLY EVOLVING ISSUE, AND,
>>HATE CRIMES HAS BEEN A CONSTANTLY EVOLVING ISSUE, AND, YET, THERE IS YET ANOTHER
CONSTANTLY EVOLVING ISSUE, AND, YET, THERE IS YET ANOTHER AMENDMENT IN THE STATE OF
YET, THERE IS YET ANOTHER AMENDMENT IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS TO BROADEN ITS SCOPE?
AMENDMENT IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS TO BROADEN ITS SCOPE? >> I THINK IN THE END -- THIS
ILLINOIS TO BROADEN ITS SCOPE? >> I THINK IN THE END -- THIS YEAR, BEGINNING OF 2012, THE
>> I THINK IN THE END -- THIS YEAR, BEGINNING OF 2012, THE HOUSE IN SPRINGFIELD INTRODUCED
YEAR, BEGINNING OF 2012, THE HOUSE IN SPRINGFIELD INTRODUCED AMENDMENT TO ADD THREE
HOUSE IN SPRINGFIELD INTRODUCED AMENDMENT TO ADD THREE CHARACTERISTICS TO THE
AMENDMENT TO ADD THREE CHARACTERISTICS TO THE ENUMERATED LIST WE HAVE BEEN
CHARACTERISTICS TO THE ENUMERATED LIST WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, AND THOSE ARE
ENUMERATED LIST WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, AND THOSE ARE GENDER IDENTITY, MILITARY STATUS
TALKING ABOUT, AND THOSE ARE GENDER IDENTITY, MILITARY STATUS AND IMMIGRATION STATUS.
GENDER IDENTITY, MILITARY STATUS AND IMMIGRATION STATUS. IN ADDITION TO THE RACE, COLOR
AND IMMIGRATION STATUS. IN ADDITION TO THE RACE, COLOR CREED, NOW IT IS A CRIME
IN ADDITION TO THE RACE, COLOR CREED, NOW IT IS A CRIME COMMITTED BY REASON OF ONE OF
CREED, NOW IT IS A CRIME COMMITTED BY REASON OF ONE OF THESE THREE, IF THIS MAKES IT
COMMITTED BY REASON OF ONE OF THESE THREE, IF THIS MAKES IT THROUGH AND BECOMES LAW, THAT
THESE THREE, IF THIS MAKES IT THROUGH AND BECOMES LAW, THAT WOULD ALSO BE A HATE CRIME.
THROUGH AND BECOMES LAW, THAT WOULD ALSO BE A HATE CRIME. MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE PROTECTED.
WOULD ALSO BE A HATE CRIME. MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE PROTECTED. >>AT WHAT LEVEL OF CRIME IS HATE
MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE PROTECTED. >>AT WHAT LEVEL OF CRIME IS HATE CRIME?
>>AT WHAT LEVEL OF CRIME IS HATE CRIME? >> IT IS A FELONY.
CRIME? >> IT IS A FELONY. IT STARTS OUT -- IN OTHER WORDS,
>> IT IS A FELONY. IT STARTS OUT -- IN OTHER WORDS, FIRST OFFENSE IT IS A CLASS 4
IT STARTS OUT -- IN OTHER WORDS, FIRST OFFENSE IT IS A CLASS 4 FELONY, SECOND OFFENSE CLASS 2
FIRST OFFENSE IT IS A CLASS 4 FELONY, SECOND OFFENSE CLASS 2 FELONY.
FELONY, SECOND OFFENSE CLASS 2 FELONY. RECOGNIZING THAT THE UNDERLYING
FELONY. RECOGNIZING THAT THE UNDERLYING OFFENSE IS TYPICALLY
RECOGNIZING THAT THE UNDERLYING OFFENSE IS TYPICALLY EXCLUSIVELY -- EXCEPT MOB
OFFENSE IS TYPICALLY EXCLUSIVELY -- EXCEPT MOB ACTION, TYPICALLY IT IS A
EXCLUSIVELY -- EXCEPT MOB ACTION, TYPICALLY IT IS A MISDEMEANOR CRIME.
ACTION, TYPICALLY IT IS A MISDEMEANOR CRIME. SO THE ADDITIONAL ACT OR THIS
MISDEMEANOR CRIME. SO THE ADDITIONAL ACT OR THIS OVERLAY ON THE MISDEMEANOR CRIME
SO THE ADDITIONAL ACT OR THIS OVERLAY ON THE MISDEMEANOR CRIME MAKES IT THE HATE CRIME.
OVERLAY ON THE MISDEMEANOR CRIME MAKES IT THE HATE CRIME. >>LET'S TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC
MAKES IT THE HATE CRIME. >>LET'S TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC CASE.
>>LET'S TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC CASE. TODD HOLLIS IS FROM ELMWOOD,
CASE. TODD HOLLIS IS FROM ELMWOOD, FOOTBALL -- GOOD FOOTBALL SEASON
TODD HOLLIS IS FROM ELMWOOD, FOOTBALL -- GOOD FOOTBALL SEASON THIS YEAR.
FOOTBALL -- GOOD FOOTBALL SEASON THIS YEAR. >>GREAT FOOTBALL SEASON.
THIS YEAR. >>GREAT FOOTBALL SEASON. >>CONGRATULATIONS.
>>GREAT FOOTBALL SEASON. >>CONGRATULATIONS. >>THANK YOU.
>>CONGRATULATIONS. >>THANK YOU. >>BUT THAT FOOTBALL SEASON
>>THANK YOU. >>BUT THAT FOOTBALL SEASON FOLLOWED A VERY UNSETTLING
>>BUT THAT FOOTBALL SEASON FOLLOWED A VERY UNSETTLING EXPERIENCE AT YOUR HOME.
FOLLOWED A VERY UNSETTLING EXPERIENCE AT YOUR HOME. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED
EXPERIENCE AT YOUR HOME. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED IN APRIL OF 2011.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED IN APRIL OF 2011. >>WE WOKE UP AS A TYPICAL
IN APRIL OF 2011. >>WE WOKE UP AS A TYPICAL MORNING, I BELIEVE APRIL 6, AND
>>WE WOKE UP AS A TYPICAL MORNING, I BELIEVE APRIL 6, AND GOT THE KIDS IN THE VAN, ELMWOOD
MORNING, I BELIEVE APRIL 6, AND GOT THE KIDS IN THE VAN, ELMWOOD IS A SMALL SCHOOL.
GOT THE KIDS IN THE VAN, ELMWOOD IS A SMALL SCHOOL. WHEN I GO TO SCHOOL, I BRING ALL
IS A SMALL SCHOOL. WHEN I GO TO SCHOOL, I BRING ALL THE KIDS THERE AND WALK THEM
WHEN I GO TO SCHOOL, I BRING ALL THE KIDS THERE AND WALK THEM DOWN TO THEIR CLASSROOM.
THE KIDS THERE AND WALK THEM DOWN TO THEIR CLASSROOM. I WAS BACKING OUT OF THE GARAGE
DOWN TO THEIR CLASSROOM. I WAS BACKING OUT OF THE GARAGE AND LOOK AND SAW MY WIFE'S SPRAY
I WAS BACKING OUT OF THE GARAGE AND LOOK AND SAW MY WIFE'S SPRAY PAINT ALL OVER IT.
AND LOOK AND SAW MY WIFE'S SPRAY PAINT ALL OVER IT. AT THE SAME TIME I WAS PUTTING
PAINT ALL OVER IT. AT THE SAME TIME I WAS PUTTING DOWN THE GARAGE DOOR, AND SAW
AT THE SAME TIME I WAS PUTTING DOWN THE GARAGE DOOR, AND SAW THE GARAGE DOOR WAS SPRAY
DOWN THE GARAGE DOOR, AND SAW THE GARAGE DOOR WAS SPRAY PAINTED ALSO.
THE GARAGE DOOR WAS SPRAY PAINTED ALSO. FIRST THING I SEE IS "DEAD."
PAINTED ALSO. FIRST THING I SEE IS "DEAD." I HIT THE BUTTON TO GO BACK UP.
FIRST THING I SEE IS "DEAD." I HIT THE BUTTON TO GO BACK UP. UNFORTUNATELY THE TWO BOYS
I HIT THE BUTTON TO GO BACK UP. UNFORTUNATELY THE TWO BOYS SITTING IN THE FAR BACK, READ
UNFORTUNATELY THE TWO BOYS SITTING IN THE FAR BACK, READ IT, THEY KNEW WHAT IT WAS.
SITTING IN THE FAR BACK, READ IT, THEY KNEW WHAT IT WAS. I TOLD MY WIFE I WOULD BE RIGHT
IT, THEY KNEW WHAT IT WAS. I TOLD MY WIFE I WOULD BE RIGHT BACK.
I TOLD MY WIFE I WOULD BE RIGHT BACK. DROPPED THEM OFF AT SCHOOL AND
BACK. DROPPED THEM OFF AT SCHOOL AND CAME BACK A DIFFERENT WAY AND
DROPPED THEM OFF AT SCHOOL AND CAME BACK A DIFFERENT WAY AND SAW NOT ONLY HAD THE GARAGE DOOR
CAME BACK A DIFFERENT WAY AND SAW NOT ONLY HAD THE GARAGE DOOR AND CAR BEEN SPRAY PAINTED, IT
SAW NOT ONLY HAD THE GARAGE DOOR AND CAR BEEN SPRAY PAINTED, IT ALSO BEEN ENTIRE SIDE OF OUR
AND CAR BEEN SPRAY PAINTED, IT ALSO BEEN ENTIRE SIDE OF OUR HOUSE THAT I COULDN'T SEE
ALSO BEEN ENTIRE SIDE OF OUR HOUSE THAT I COULDN'T SEE ORIGINALLY.
HOUSE THAT I COULDN'T SEE ORIGINALLY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE
ORIGINALLY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SPRAY PAINTED WERE FOCUSED
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SPRAY PAINTED WERE FOCUSED TOWARDS MY DAUGHTERS, BOTH WHO
SPRAY PAINTED WERE FOCUSED TOWARDS MY DAUGHTERS, BOTH WHO HAVE DOWN SYNDROME.
TOWARDS MY DAUGHTERS, BOTH WHO HAVE DOWN SYNDROME. GET OUT OF TOWN, RETARDS, LEAVE
HAVE DOWN SYNDROME. GET OUT OF TOWN, RETARDS, LEAVE RETARDS, SOME PRETTY -- FOR
GET OUT OF TOWN, RETARDS, LEAVE RETARDS, SOME PRETTY -- FOR PARENT OF A CHILD WITH A
RETARDS, SOME PRETTY -- FOR PARENT OF A CHILD WITH A DISABILITY, SOUTHEAST THAT IS
PARENT OF A CHILD WITH A DISABILITY, SOUTHEAST THAT IS PRETTY DISTURBING.
DISABILITY, SOUTHEAST THAT IS PRETTY DISTURBING. >>THE STATUS OF THAT CASE AT
PRETTY DISTURBING. >>THE STATUS OF THAT CASE AT THIS POINT AND TIME IS?
>>THE STATUS OF THAT CASE AT THIS POINT AND TIME IS? >> IT IS STILL OPEN.
THIS POINT AND TIME IS? >> IT IS STILL OPEN. THIS HAS NOT BEEN MUCH MOVEMENT
>> IT IS STILL OPEN. THIS HAS NOT BEEN MUCH MOVEMENT ON IT.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN MUCH MOVEMENT ON IT. >>NO RESOLUTION IN TERMS OF
ON IT. >>NO RESOLUTION IN TERMS OF ACTUAL PROSECUTION?
>>NO RESOLUTION IN TERMS OF ACTUAL PROSECUTION? >> RIGHT.
ACTUAL PROSECUTION? >> RIGHT. >>DO YOU FEAR FOR YOUR CHILDREN?
>> RIGHT. >>DO YOU FEAR FOR YOUR CHILDREN? DO YOU FEAR FOR YOURSELF?
>>DO YOU FEAR FOR YOUR CHILDREN? DO YOU FEAR FOR YOURSELF? WHAT HAS CHANGED IN YOUR LIFE
DO YOU FEAR FOR YOURSELF? WHAT HAS CHANGED IN YOUR LIFE STYLE SINCE THAT EVENT A YEAR
WHAT HAS CHANGED IN YOUR LIFE STYLE SINCE THAT EVENT A YEAR AGO?
STYLE SINCE THAT EVENT A YEAR AGO? >> IT IS A LITTLE HARDER TO
AGO? >> IT IS A LITTLE HARDER TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
>> IT IS A LITTLE HARDER TO SLEEP AT NIGHT. IT IS HARD FOR FOR ME TO BE OUT
SLEEP AT NIGHT. IT IS HARD FOR FOR ME TO BE OUT OF TOWN AND KNOW MY WIFE IS HOME
IT IS HARD FOR FOR ME TO BE OUT OF TOWN AND KNOW MY WIFE IS HOME ALONE.
OF TOWN AND KNOW MY WIFE IS HOME ALONE. THAT'S SOMETHING SHE HAS TO DEAL
ALONE. THAT'S SOMETHING SHE HAS TO DEAL WITH AND I HAVE TO DEAL WITH
THAT'S SOMETHING SHE HAS TO DEAL WITH AND I HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHEN I AM A AWAY IT SCARY.
WITH AND I HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHEN I AM A AWAY IT SCARY. IT IS A MAY BERRY TYPE OF PLACE,
WHEN I AM A AWAY IT SCARY. IT IS A MAY BERRY TYPE OF PLACE, THERE ARE WHITE PICKET FENCES
IT IS A MAY BERRY TYPE OF PLACE, THERE ARE WHITE PICKET FENCES AND THE WHOLE DEAL, AND THAT
THERE ARE WHITE PICKET FENCES AND THE WHOLE DEAL, AND THAT KIND OF SHATTERED THAT FOR US.
AND THE WHOLE DEAL, AND THAT KIND OF SHATTERED THAT FOR US. MY BOYS ASK ABOUT IT REGULARLY.
KIND OF SHATTERED THAT FOR US. MY BOYS ASK ABOUT IT REGULARLY. FORTUNATELY THE DAUGHTERS
MY BOYS ASK ABOUT IT REGULARLY. FORTUNATELY THE DAUGHTERS COULDN'T READ IT, AND DIDN'T
FORTUNATELY THE DAUGHTERS COULDN'T READ IT, AND DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING HAD HAPPENED.
COULDN'T READ IT, AND DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING HAD HAPPENED. >>THEY WERE FIVE YEARS OLD.
KNOW ANYTHING HAD HAPPENED. >>THEY WERE FIVE YEARS OLD. >>FOUR AND FIVE.
>>THEY WERE FIVE YEARS OLD. >>FOUR AND FIVE. >>HOW OLD WERE THE BOYS.
>>FOUR AND FIVE. >>HOW OLD WERE THE BOYS. >>CIRCUMSTANCE AND SEVEN.
>>HOW OLD WERE THE BOYS. >>CIRCUMSTANCE AND SEVEN. >>KINDERGARTEN, FIRST GRADE, CAN
>>CIRCUMSTANCE AND SEVEN. >>KINDERGARTEN, FIRST GRADE, CAN BOTH READ.
>>KINDERGARTEN, FIRST GRADE, CAN BOTH READ. >>WHAT HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEEN
BOTH READ. >>WHAT HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEEN LIKE?
>>WHAT HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEEN LIKE? HAVE NEIGHBORS BEEN SUPPORTIVE
LIKE? HAVE NEIGHBORS BEEN SUPPORTIVE IN THIS REGARD?
HAVE NEIGHBORS BEEN SUPPORTIVE IN THIS REGARD? >> THE TOWN AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN
IN THIS REGARD? >> THE TOWN AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN AMAZINGLY SUPPORTIVE.
>> THE TOWN AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN AMAZINGLY SUPPORTIVE. THERE WAS A BLUE RIBBON
AMAZINGLY SUPPORTIVE. THERE WAS A BLUE RIBBON CAMPAIGN, AND THOSE ARE ALL
THERE WAS A BLUE RIBBON CAMPAIGN, AND THOSE ARE ALL AROUND TOWN STILL.
CAMPAIGN, AND THOSE ARE ALL AROUND TOWN STILL. AND IT IS QUITE OFTEN SOMEBODY
AROUND TOWN STILL. AND IT IS QUITE OFTEN SOMEBODY WILL COME UP TO US AND ASK HOW
AND IT IS QUITE OFTEN SOMEBODY WILL COME UP TO US AND ASK HOW THINGS ARE GOING, THAT'S THE
WILL COME UP TO US AND ASK HOW THINGS ARE GOING, THAT'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION "HAVE THEY
THINGS ARE GOING, THAT'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION "HAVE THEY CAUGHT ANYBODY YET?"
BIGGEST QUESTION "HAVE THEY CAUGHT ANYBODY YET?" UNFORTUNATELY THE ANSWER IS
CAUGHT ANYBODY YET?" UNFORTUNATELY THE ANSWER IS STILL NO.
UNFORTUNATELY THE ANSWER IS STILL NO. >>IS THERE A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF
STILL NO. >>IS THERE A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF VIGILANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
>>IS THERE A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF VIGILANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? >> I THINK THERE PROBABLY S
VIGILANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? >> I THINK THERE PROBABLY S PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE OF WHAT IS
>> I THINK THERE PROBABLY S PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON MAYBE.
PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON MAYBE. WE DO SEE THE OFFICERS PATROL
GOING ON MAYBE. WE DO SEE THE OFFICERS PATROL OUR VOTE A LITTLE MORE OFTEN
WE DO SEE THE OFFICERS PATROL OUR VOTE A LITTLE MORE OFTEN THAN I THINK THEY DID IN THE
OUR VOTE A LITTLE MORE OFTEN THAN I THINK THEY DID IN THE PAST AND KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS.
THAN I THINK THEY DID IN THE PAST AND KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS. >>JERRY, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH
PAST AND KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS. >>JERRY, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE?
>>JERRY, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE? >> I AM.
THE CASE? >> I AM. I HAD THE BENEFIT OF LISTENING
>> I AM. I HAD THE BENEFIT OF LISTENING TO TODD AT ILLINOIS CENTRAL
I HAD THE BENEFIT OF LISTENING TO TODD AT ILLINOIS CENTRAL COLLEGE EARLIER IN THE YEAR WHEN
TO TODD AT ILLINOIS CENTRAL COLLEGE EARLIER IN THE YEAR WHEN THE HATE CRIMES WERE PRESENTED
COLLEGE EARLIER IN THE YEAR WHEN THE HATE CRIMES WERE PRESENTED BY THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
THE HATE CRIMES WERE PRESENTED BY THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TODD SPOKE.
BY THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TODD SPOKE. >>IN GENERAL, INCLUDING TODAY'S
AND TODD SPOKE. >>IN GENERAL, INCLUDING TODAY'S CASE, HOW FRUSTRATING IS IT WHEN
>>IN GENERAL, INCLUDING TODAY'S CASE, HOW FRUSTRATING IS IT WHEN YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH A HATE
CASE, HOW FRUSTRATING IS IT WHEN YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH A HATE CRIME?
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH A HATE CRIME? >> IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING.
CRIME? >> IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING. I AM SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH
>> IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING. I AM SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH ELMWOOD AND THE COMMUNITY. TODD
I AM SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH ELMWOOD AND THE COMMUNITY. TODD IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AS HE
ELMWOOD AND THE COMMUNITY. TODD IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AS HE CHARACTERIZED IT, MAYBERRY.
IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AS HE CHARACTERIZED IT, MAYBERRY. BUT IN TERMS OF PROSECUTING THE
CHARACTERIZED IT, MAYBERRY. BUT IN TERMS OF PROSECUTING THE CRIME, YOU HAVE THIS UNDERLYING
BUT IN TERMS OF PROSECUTING THE CRIME, YOU HAVE THIS UNDERLYING OFFENSE, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO
CRIME, YOU HAVE THIS UNDERLYING OFFENSE, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE AND PROVE, AND IT IS
OFFENSE, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE AND PROVE, AND IT IS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, YOU
DETERMINE AND PROVE, AND IT IS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, YOU HAVE TO PROVE IN CRIMINAL COURT,
BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, YOU HAVE TO PROVE IN CRIMINAL COURT, AS WE TALKED, IT IS LIKE LOOKING
HAVE TO PROVE IN CRIMINAL COURT, AS WE TALKED, IT IS LIKE LOOKING IN THE PERSON'S MIND. YOU HAVE
AS WE TALKED, IT IS LIKE LOOKING IN THE PERSON'S MIND. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT ACTUAL
IN THE PERSON'S MIND. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED CHARACTERISTIC WAS
TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED CHARACTERISTIC WAS THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED OUT OF
OR PERCEIVED CHARACTERISTIC WAS THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED OUT OF THAT MESSAGE, AND THAT'S A
THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED OUT OF THAT MESSAGE, AND THAT'S A DIFFICULT -- BECAUSE THE
THAT MESSAGE, AND THAT'S A DIFFICULT -- BECAUSE THE DEFENDANT CAN SAY, YES, OF
DIFFICULT -- BECAUSE THE DEFENDANT CAN SAY, YES, OF COURSE I PUNCHED IN THE NOSE,
DEFENDANT CAN SAY, YES, OF COURSE I PUNCHED IN THE NOSE, BUT I PUNCHED HIM IN THE NOSE
COURSE I PUNCHED IN THE NOSE, BUT I PUNCHED HIM IN THE NOSE BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE
BUT I PUNCHED HIM IN THE NOSE BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE YANKEES.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE YANKEES. THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF
SAID ABOUT THE YANKEES. THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF EXPLANATIONS, AND WE HAVE THE
THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF EXPLANATIONS, AND WE HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF.
EXPLANATIONS, AND WE HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. SO IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO
BURDEN OF PROOF. SO IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO DO.
SO IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO DO. >>WHATEVER THE CRIME FOR
DO. >>WHATEVER THE CRIME FOR SPRAYING OF THE GRAFFITI IS ONE
>>WHATEVER THE CRIME FOR SPRAYING OF THE GRAFFITI IS ONE THING, THAT WOULD BE EASIER TO
SPRAYING OF THE GRAFFITI IS ONE THING, THAT WOULD BE EASIER TO CONVICT A SUS SECRETARY?
THING, THAT WOULD BE EASIER TO CONVICT A SUS SECRETARY? >> TYPICALLY THAT ACT, IT IS
CONVICT A SUS SECRETARY? >> TYPICALLY THAT ACT, IT IS MUCH EASIER TO PROVE.
>> TYPICALLY THAT ACT, IT IS MUCH EASIER TO PROVE. YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN AND PROVE
MUCH EASIER TO PROVE. YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN AND PROVE THAT IT WAS BASED ON ONE OF
YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN AND PROVE THAT IT WAS BASED ON ONE OF THOSE ENUMERATED FACTORS THAT IT
THAT IT WAS BASED ON ONE OF THOSE ENUMERATED FACTORS THAT IT WAS DONE OUT OF RACE OR
THOSE ENUMERATED FACTORS THAT IT WAS DONE OUT OF RACE OR ANTAGONISM TOWARD RACE, CREED OR
WAS DONE OUT OF RACE OR ANTAGONISM TOWARD RACE, CREED OR RELIGION.
ANTAGONISM TOWARD RACE, CREED OR RELIGION. AND A DEFENDANT TYPICALLY COULD
RELIGION. AND A DEFENDANT TYPICALLY COULD SAY, YES, YOU MAY SAY THAT, BUT
AND A DEFENDANT TYPICALLY COULD SAY, YES, YOU MAY SAY THAT, BUT MY MOTIVATION WAS SIMPLY BECAUSE
SAY, YES, YOU MAY SAY THAT, BUT MY MOTIVATION WAS SIMPLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAID.
MY MOTIVATION WAS SIMPLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAID. >> NOT EVERY CRIMINAL LIKE JOHN
I DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAID. >> NOT EVERY CRIMINAL LIKE JOHN WILKES BOOTH WILL JUMP OFF AFTER
>> NOT EVERY CRIMINAL LIKE JOHN WILKES BOOTH WILL JUMP OFF AFTER MURDERING A PRESIDENT.
WILKES BOOTH WILL JUMP OFF AFTER MURDERING A PRESIDENT. THEY DON'T USUALLY ANNOUNCE WITH
MURDERING A PRESIDENT. THEY DON'T USUALLY ANNOUNCE WITH A THEIR MOTIVES ARE.
THEY DON'T USUALLY ANNOUNCE WITH A THEIR MOTIVES ARE. SO IT IS DIFFICULT TO PROVE
A THEIR MOTIVES ARE. SO IT IS DIFFICULT TO PROVE THAT.
SO IT IS DIFFICULT TO PROVE THAT. >>IN THE CASE IN NEW JERSEY, YOU
THAT. >>IN THE CASE IN NEW JERSEY, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT CASE.
>>IN THE CASE IN NEW JERSEY, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT CASE. >>UH-HUH.
ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT CASE. >>UH-HUH. >>THAT WAS A HIGHLY COMPLEX CASE
>>UH-HUH. >>THAT WAS A HIGHLY COMPLEX CASE INVOLVING THE INTERNET, THINGS
>>THAT WAS A HIGHLY COMPLEX CASE INVOLVING THE INTERNET, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
INVOLVING THE INTERNET, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ONCE AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK TO
OF THAT NATURE. ONCE AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK TO THE TERM "FRUSTRATING," YOU ARE
ONCE AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK TO THE TERM "FRUSTRATING," YOU ARE PRETTY SURE WHAT HAPPENED, BUT
THE TERM "FRUSTRATING," YOU ARE PRETTY SURE WHAT HAPPENED, BUT ACTUALLY GETTING INSIDE THE
PRETTY SURE WHAT HAPPENED, BUT ACTUALLY GETTING INSIDE THE SUSPECT'S MIND AND BEING ABLE TO
ACTUALLY GETTING INSIDE THE SUSPECT'S MIND AND BEING ABLE TO PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER
SUSPECT'S MIND AND BEING ABLE TO PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS.
PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS. >>IT IS TRICKY, BUT IN THIS
BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS. >>IT IS TRICKY, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE OFFENDER ACTUALLY
>>IT IS TRICKY, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE OFFENDER ACTUALLY TWEETED SOME MESSAGE ABOUT HIS
CASE, THE OFFENDER ACTUALLY TWEETED SOME MESSAGE ABOUT HIS INTENT, AND I THINK IN REAL
TWEETED SOME MESSAGE ABOUT HIS INTENT, AND I THINK IN REAL TIME.
INTENT, AND I THINK IN REAL TIME. SO THAT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT
TIME. SO THAT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER, BUT, STILL, TOOK A
SO THAT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER, BUT, STILL, TOOK A LENGTHY TRIAL TO SORT IT OUT.
EASIER, BUT, STILL, TOOK A LENGTHY TRIAL TO SORT IT OUT. >>SADLY, H, I THINK THOSE ARE
LENGTHY TRIAL TO SORT IT OUT. >>SADLY, H, I THINK THOSE ARE THE KIND OF CASES THAT ARE MORE
>>SADLY, H, I THINK THOSE ARE THE KIND OF CASES THAT ARE MORE VISIBLE THAT ARE SEEN THAT ARE
THE KIND OF CASES THAT ARE MORE VISIBLE THAT ARE SEEN THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE CHARGED, AND
VISIBLE THAT ARE SEEN THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE CHARGED, AND MORE LIKELY TO BE PROVEN.
MORE LIKELY TO BE CHARGED, AND MORE LIKELY TO BE PROVEN. WHEN YOU LOCK AT THE TYPICAL
MORE LIKELY TO BE PROVEN. WHEN YOU LOCK AT THE TYPICAL CASE WHERE THE UNDERLYING
WHEN YOU LOCK AT THE TYPICAL CASE WHERE THE UNDERLYING OFFENSE IS COMMITTED AND YOU
CASE WHERE THE UNDERLYING OFFENSE IS COMMITTED AND YOU HAVE A SUSPICION THAT THAT
OFFENSE IS COMMITTED AND YOU HAVE A SUSPICION THAT THAT PROBABLY WAS A HATE CRIME, THAT
HAVE A SUSPICION THAT THAT PROBABLY WAS A HATE CRIME, THAT IT WAS PROBABLY DONE OUT OF RACE
PROBABLY WAS A HATE CRIME, THAT IT WAS PROBABLY DONE OUT OF RACE OR ANTAGONISM TOWARD A CERTAIN
IT WAS PROBABLY DONE OUT OF RACE OR ANTAGONISM TOWARD A CERTAIN RELIGION OR ETHNIC GROUP.
OR ANTAGONISM TOWARD A CERTAIN RELIGION OR ETHNIC GROUP. YOU HAVE GOT THAT EXPECTATION,
RELIGION OR ETHNIC GROUP. YOU HAVE GOT THAT EXPECTATION, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S
YOU HAVE GOT THAT EXPECTATION, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE,
WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE, BUT THEN PROVING IT, AS POLLY
PROBABLY WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE, BUT THEN PROVING IT, AS POLLY MENTION, THAT'S A MUCH MORE
BUT THEN PROVING IT, AS POLLY MENTION, THAT'S A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TASK UNLESS THERE IS
MENTION, THAT'S A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TASK UNLESS THERE IS THIS MESSAGE.
DIFFICULT TASK UNLESS THERE IS THIS MESSAGE. BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A
THIS MESSAGE. BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNICATION.
BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNICATION. THERE HAS TO BE SOME MEANS OF
COMMUNICATION. THERE HAS TO BE SOME MEANS OF COMMUNIQUES.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME MEANS OF COMMUNIQUES. WE CAN'T LOOK INSIDE THE
COMMUNIQUES. WE CAN'T LOOK INSIDE THE DEFENDANT'S HEAD AND GATHER,
WE CAN'T LOOK INSIDE THE DEFENDANT'S HEAD AND GATHER, WELL, THAT WAS THE MOTIVATION
DEFENDANT'S HEAD AND GATHER, WELL, THAT WAS THE MOTIVATION BEHIND IT.
WELL, THAT WAS THE MOTIVATION BEHIND IT. THERE HAS TO BE SOME
BEHIND IT. THERE HAS TO BE SOME MANIFESTATION, TYPICALLY THERE
THERE HAS TO BE SOME MANIFESTATION, TYPICALLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME
MANIFESTATION, TYPICALLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME MANIFESTATION BIT DEFENDANT TO
WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME MANIFESTATION BIT DEFENDANT TO GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION AND
MANIFESTATION BIT DEFENDANT TO GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION AND PROOF AS TO WHAT THE MOTIVE WAS.
GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION AND PROOF AS TO WHAT THE MOTIVE WAS. >>LET ME TURN TO POLLY, AGAIN.
PROOF AS TO WHAT THE MOTIVE WAS. >>LET ME TURN TO POLLY, AGAIN. THERE ARE FEDERAL HATE CRIME
>>LET ME TURN TO POLLY, AGAIN. THERE ARE FEDERAL HATE CRIME STATUTES?
THERE ARE FEDERAL HATE CRIME STATUTES? ILLINOIS HATE CRIME STATUTES.
STATUTES? ILLINOIS HATE CRIME STATUTES. IS THERE A DIFFERENT -- WHY
ILLINOIS HATE CRIME STATUTES. IS THERE A DIFFERENT -- WHY WOULD YOU GO FOR AN ILLINOIS
IS THERE A DIFFERENT -- WHY WOULD YOU GO FOR AN ILLINOIS UNDER ILLINOIS LAW VERSUS UNDER
WOULD YOU GO FOR AN ILLINOIS UNDER ILLINOIS LAW VERSUS UNDER A FEDERAL LAW?
UNDER ILLINOIS LAW VERSUS UNDER A FEDERAL LAW? >> CURRENTLY ILLINOIS LAW IS
A FEDERAL LAW? >> CURRENTLY ILLINOIS LAW IS BROADER IN THE CLASSES WHO ARE
>> CURRENTLY ILLINOIS LAW IS BROADER IN THE CLASSES WHO ARE PROTECTED.
BROADER IN THE CLASSES WHO ARE PROTECTED. THE FEDERAL --
PROTECTED. THE FEDERAL -- >>GO AHEAD.
THE FEDERAL -- >>GO AHEAD. >> THE FEDERAL IS MUCH MORE
>>GO AHEAD. >> THE FEDERAL IS MUCH MORE RECENTLY SIGNED INTO LAW BY
>> THE FEDERAL IS MUCH MORE RECENTLY SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT OBAMA IN 2009 AND WAS
RECENTLY SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT OBAMA IN 2009 AND WAS A RESULT OF THE *** OF JAMES
PRESIDENT OBAMA IN 2009 AND WAS A RESULT OF THE *** OF JAMES BYRD AND MATTHEW SHEPHERD BACK
A RESULT OF THE *** OF JAMES BYRD AND MATTHEW SHEPHERD BACK IN 199.
BYRD AND MATTHEW SHEPHERD BACK IN 199. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IN THE
IN 199. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IN THE FALL OF 2011 IN TEXAS, A GROUP
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IN THE FALL OF 2011 IN TEXAS, A GROUP OF TEEN AGER BOYS HAD BEEN
FALL OF 2011 IN TEXAS, A GROUP OF TEEN AGER BOYS HAD BEEN DRINKING ALL NIGHT AND SAID
OF TEEN AGER BOYS HAD BEEN DRINKING ALL NIGHT AND SAID "LET'S GO ROUGH UP SOME AFRICAN
DRINKING ALL NIGHT AND SAID "LET'S GO ROUGH UP SOME AFRICAN AMERICANS," DROVE TO THE NEXT
"LET'S GO ROUGH UP SOME AFRICAN AMERICANS," DROVE TO THE NEXT EXIT OFF THE HIGH WAN A BEAT AND
AMERICANS," DROVE TO THE NEXT EXIT OFF THE HIGH WAN A BEAT AND RAN OFFENSE AND KILLED WITH
EXIT OFF THE HIGH WAN A BEAT AND RAN OFFENSE AND KILLED WITH THEIR CAR, THE FIRST AFRICAN
RAN OFFENSE AND KILLED WITH THEIR CAR, THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PERSON THEY SAW.
THEIR CAR, THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PERSON THEY SAW. AND BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENT
AMERICAN PERSON THEY SAW. AND BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENT BEFOREHAND OF THE INTENT, LET'S
AND BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENT BEFOREHAND OF THE INTENT, LET'S GO DO THIS ACT, LET'S GO COMMIT
BEFOREHAND OF THE INTENT, LET'S GO DO THIS ACT, LET'S GO COMMIT THIS CRIME, THE MAIN PERSON WAS
GO DO THIS ACT, LET'S GO COMMIT THIS CRIME, THE MAIN PERSON WAS CHARGED WITH HATE CRIME UNDER
THIS CRIME, THE MAIN PERSON WAS CHARGED WITH HATE CRIME UNDER THE SHEPHERD-BYRD ACT, FEDERAL
CHARGED WITH HATE CRIME UNDER THE SHEPHERD-BYRD ACT, FEDERAL LAW.
THE SHEPHERD-BYRD ACT, FEDERAL LAW. ILLINOIS LAW IS LITTLE BROADER
LAW. ILLINOIS LAW IS LITTLE BROADER NOW THAN THE FEDERAL LAW IS.
ILLINOIS LAW IS LITTLE BROADER NOW THAN THE FEDERAL LAW IS. >>JUST FOR CLARIFICATION,
NOW THAN THE FEDERAL LAW IS. >>JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SHEPHERD WAS A CASE IN WYOMING
>>JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SHEPHERD WAS A CASE IN WYOMING AND BYRD WAS A CASE DOWN IN --
SHEPHERD WAS A CASE IN WYOMING AND BYRD WAS A CASE DOWN IN -- AN AFRICAN AMERICAN DOWN IN
AND BYRD WAS A CASE DOWN IN -- AN AFRICAN AMERICAN DOWN IN TEXAS.
AN AFRICAN AMERICAN DOWN IN TEXAS. YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT,
TEXAS. YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, JERRY?
YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, JERRY? >> I WAS GOING TO ADD ONCE YOU
JERRY? >> I WAS GOING TO ADD ONCE YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS
>> I WAS GOING TO ADD ONCE YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS ALSO AN ENHANCEMENT AND SENTENCE
HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS ALSO AN ENHANCEMENT AND SENTENCE IN TERMS OF OFFENDERS THAT
ALSO AN ENHANCEMENT AND SENTENCE IN TERMS OF OFFENDERS THAT COMMIT THE HATE CRIME OFFENSE,
IN TERMS OF OFFENDERS THAT COMMIT THE HATE CRIME OFFENSE, FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY MAY COMMIT
COMMIT THE HATE CRIME OFFENSE, FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY MAY COMMIT IT IN A CEMETERY OR IN A SCHOOL
FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY MAY COMMIT IT IN A CEMETERY OR IN A SCHOOL OR A PARK, THAT THE ENHANCEMENT,
IT IN A CEMETERY OR IN A SCHOOL OR A PARK, THAT THE ENHANCEMENT, IT GOES FROM THE FIRST OFFENSE
OR A PARK, THAT THE ENHANCEMENT, IT GOES FROM THE FIRST OFFENSE AS CLASS 3 FELONY AND SECOND
IT GOES FROM THE FIRST OFFENSE AS CLASS 3 FELONY AND SECOND OFFENSE IS CLASS 2 FELONY.
AS CLASS 3 FELONY AND SECOND OFFENSE IS CLASS 2 FELONY. THERE IS ALSO ENHANCING FACTOR
OFFENSE IS CLASS 2 FELONY. THERE IS ALSO ENHANCING FACTOR WHEN THE CRIME IS COMMITTED IN
THERE IS ALSO ENHANCING FACTOR WHEN THE CRIME IS COMMITTED IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.
WHEN THE CRIME IS COMMITTED IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. >>WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
CERTAIN LOCATIONS. >>WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT THE
>>WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT THE PROSECUTORS HAVE.
FRUSTRATIONS THAT THE PROSECUTORS HAVE. WHAT ABOUT YOUR FRUSTRATION
PROSECUTORS HAVE. WHAT ABOUT YOUR FRUSTRATION LEVEL.
WHAT ABOUT YOUR FRUSTRATION LEVEL. IT HAS BEEN A YEAR.
LEVEL. IT HAS BEEN A YEAR. DO YOU KNOW WHO DID IT OR DO YOU
IT HAS BEEN A YEAR. DO YOU KNOW WHO DID IT OR DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO DID IT?
DO YOU KNOW WHO DID IT OR DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO DID IT? >> OH, YOU DON'T KNOW.
THINK YOU KNOW WHO DID IT? >> OH, YOU DON'T KNOW. EVERY TIME -- IT REALLY SEEMS
>> OH, YOU DON'T KNOW. EVERY TIME -- IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE DO TALK TO THE
EVERY TIME -- IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE DO TALK TO THE POLICE, THERE MIGHT BE A LEAD.
LIKE WHEN WE DO TALK TO THE POLICE, THERE MIGHT BE A LEAD. THEY THINK IT IS GOING IN ONE
POLICE, THERE MIGHT BE A LEAD. THEY THINK IT IS GOING IN ONE DIRECTION, AND THAT FALL
THEY THINK IT IS GOING IN ONE DIRECTION, AND THAT FALL THROUGH, AND LEAD GOING IN
DIRECTION, AND THAT FALL THROUGH, AND LEAD GOING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION.
THROUGH, AND LEAD GOING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. I MEAN YOU HAVE A GUT FEELING IN
ANOTHER DIRECTION. I MEAN YOU HAVE A GUT FEELING IN A SMALL TOWN YOU HAVE A GUT
I MEAN YOU HAVE A GUT FEELING IN A SMALL TOWN YOU HAVE A GUT FEELING, BUT, REALLY WE DON'T
A SMALL TOWN YOU HAVE A GUT FEELING, BUT, REALLY WE DON'T KNOW.
FEELING, BUT, REALLY WE DON'T KNOW. >>THERE ISN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE AT
KNOW. >>THERE ISN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE AT THIS POINT AND TIME?
>>THERE ISN'T ENOUGH EVIDENCE AT THIS POINT AND TIME? >> NO.
THIS POINT AND TIME? >> NO. >>SO FRUSTRATING FOR YOU ON A
>> NO. >>SO FRUSTRATING FOR YOU ON A PERSONAL LEVEL?
>>SO FRUSTRATING FOR YOU ON A PERSONAL LEVEL? >> ABSOLUTELY.
PERSONAL LEVEL? >> ABSOLUTELY. >>HAS IT IMPACTED YOUR DUTY AT
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>HAS IT IMPACTED YOUR DUTY AT SCHOOL?
>>HAS IT IMPACTED YOUR DUTY AT SCHOOL? >> NO.
SCHOOL? >> NO. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS AT
>> NO. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS AT SCHOOL.
I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS AT SCHOOL. THE BIGGEST THING IT IS IMPACTED
SCHOOL. THE BIGGEST THING IT IS IMPACTED PROBABLY BEEN OUR FAMILY.
THE BIGGEST THING IT IS IMPACTED PROBABLY BEEN OUR FAMILY. TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THE BOYS
PROBABLY BEEN OUR FAMILY. TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THE BOYS WHAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT THEIR
TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THE BOYS WHAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT THEIR SISTER AND WHY PEOPLE WOULD
WHAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT THEIR SISTER AND WHY PEOPLE WOULD WRITE THAT, AND IT IS REALLY
SISTER AND WHY PEOPLE WOULD WRITE THAT, AND IT IS REALLY OPENED SOME PRETTY GREAT
WRITE THAT, AND IT IS REALLY OPENED SOME PRETTY GREAT DIALOGUES AND ALLOWED US TO GIVE
OPENED SOME PRETTY GREAT DIALOGUES AND ALLOWED US TO GIVE A VISION OF THEIR FUTURE THAT WE
DIALOGUES AND ALLOWED US TO GIVE A VISION OF THEIR FUTURE THAT WE HAVE EXPECT TATIONS OF THEM TO
A VISION OF THEIR FUTURE THAT WE HAVE EXPECT TATIONS OF THEM TO DEFEND THEIR SISTERS AND STAND
HAVE EXPECT TATIONS OF THEM TO DEFEND THEIR SISTERS AND STAND UP FOR PEOPLE.
DEFEND THEIR SISTERS AND STAND UP FOR PEOPLE. SO FROM A PARENTING PERSPECTIVE
UP FOR PEOPLE. SO FROM A PARENTING PERSPECTIVE IN A WAY IT HAS BEEN POSITIVE.
SO FROM A PARENTING PERSPECTIVE IN A WAY IT HAS BEEN POSITIVE. BUT, THEN, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH
IN A WAY IT HAS BEEN POSITIVE. BUT, THEN, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH GOING TO BED AT NIGHT AND
BUT, THEN, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH GOING TO BED AT NIGHT AND TUCKING THEM IN AND ASSURING
GOING TO BED AT NIGHT AND TUCKING THEM IN AND ASSURING THEM THEY ARE SAFE.
TUCKING THEM IN AND ASSURING THEM THEY ARE SAFE. >>DID THE TWO GIRLS UNDERSTAND
THEM THEY ARE SAFE. >>DID THE TWO GIRLS UNDERSTAND YET?
>>DID THE TWO GIRLS UNDERSTAND YET? >> NO.
YET? >> NO. >>WHAT HAPPENED.
>> NO. >>WHAT HAPPENED. >>NO.
>>WHAT HAPPENED. >>NO. >>IT WILL BE AWHILE.
>>NO. >>IT WILL BE AWHILE. >> IT WILL BE AWHILE.
>>IT WILL BE AWHILE. >> IT WILL BE AWHILE. I AM HAPPY FOR THEM.
>> IT WILL BE AWHILE. I AM HAPPY FOR THEM. >>THAT MAYBE A GOOD THING.
I AM HAPPY FOR THEM. >>THAT MAYBE A GOOD THING. >>ABSOLUTELY.
>>THAT MAYBE A GOOD THING. >>ABSOLUTELY. >>
DO YOU CONDUCT YOUR PERSONAL LIFE ANY DIFFERENTLY? AND I DON'T MEAN AT SCHOOL, BUT
LIFE ANY DIFFERENTLY? AND I DON'T MEAN AT SCHOOL, BUT LIKE WHEN YOU GOT UP THAT
AND I DON'T MEAN AT SCHOOL, BUT LIKE WHEN YOU GOT UP THAT MORNING, YOU BACKED OUT, AND ALL
LIKE WHEN YOU GOT UP THAT MORNING, YOU BACKED OUT, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR LIFE CHANGED.
MORNING, YOU BACKED OUT, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR LIFE CHANGED. DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU
OF A SUDDEN YOUR LIFE CHANGED. DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU BACK OUT EVERY TIME NOW?
DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU BACK OUT EVERY TIME NOW? >> WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T PARK
BACK OUT EVERY TIME NOW? >> WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T PARK OUR CARS OUTSIDE FOR SURE ANY
>> WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T PARK OUR CARS OUTSIDE FOR SURE ANY MORE.
OUR CARS OUTSIDE FOR SURE ANY MORE. SOUND FUNNY.
MORE. SOUND FUNNY. BUT WE DON'T.
SOUND FUNNY. BUT WE DON'T. I ALMOST LEFT IT OUT THE OTHER
BUT WE DON'T. I ALMOST LEFT IT OUT THE OTHER NIGHT, BIKES OUT, AND NICE OUT,
I ALMOST LEFT IT OUT THE OTHER NIGHT, BIKES OUT, AND NICE OUT, BUT, YEAH, WE DO THINK ABOUT
NIGHT, BIKES OUT, AND NICE OUT, BUT, YEAH, WE DO THINK ABOUT THAT.
BUT, YEAH, WE DO THINK ABOUT THAT. THERE IS STILL A COUPLE PARTS --
THAT. THERE IS STILL A COUPLE PARTS -- WE HAD SOME THINGS PAINTED BUT
THERE IS STILL A COUPLE PARTS -- WE HAD SOME THINGS PAINTED BUT LITTLE PART STILL IF YOU LOOK,
WE HAD SOME THINGS PAINTED BUT LITTLE PART STILL IF YOU LOOK, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF
LITTLE PART STILL IF YOU LOOK, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF SPRAY PAINT, AND THE BOYS SHOWED
YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF SPRAY PAINT, AND THE BOYS SHOWED THEIR FRIENDS THE OTHER DAY
SPRAY PAINT, AND THE BOYS SHOWED THEIR FRIENDS THE OTHER DAY WHERE THE HOUSE GOT SPRAY
THEIR FRIENDS THE OTHER DAY WHERE THE HOUSE GOT SPRAY PAINTED SO THERE ARE CONSTANT
WHERE THE HOUSE GOT SPRAY PAINTED SO THERE ARE CONSTANT REMINDERS.
PAINTED SO THERE ARE CONSTANT REMINDERS. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING SO FAR
REMINDERS. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING SO FAR ABOUT FELONIES, WHICH ARE
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING SO FAR ABOUT FELONIES, WHICH ARE CRIMINAL OFFENSES.
ABOUT FELONIES, WHICH ARE CRIMINAL OFFENSES. IS THIS A CIVIL ASPECT TO THIS?
CRIMINAL OFFENSES. IS THIS A CIVIL ASPECT TO THIS? >> THERE IS.
IS THIS A CIVIL ASPECT TO THIS? >> THERE IS. THE STATUTE ALSO PER DESCRIBES A
>> THERE IS. THE STATUTE ALSO PER DESCRIBES A CIVIL ACTION CAN BE BROUGHT.
THE STATUTE ALSO PER DESCRIBES A CIVIL ACTION CAN BE BROUGHT. AS PART OF THAT, YOU ALSO WOULD
CIVIL ACTION CAN BE BROUGHT. AS PART OF THAT, YOU ALSO WOULD HAVE DAMAGES THAT WE TYPICALLY
AS PART OF THAT, YOU ALSO WOULD HAVE DAMAGES THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE ON CIVIL CASES.
HAVE DAMAGES THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE ON CIVIL CASES. THEY ALLOW FOR PUNITIVE DAMAGES,
HAVE ON CIVIL CASES. THEY ALLOW FOR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, AS WELL AS RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY
THEY ALLOW FOR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, AS WELL AS RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY FEES. I SUSPECT THAT'S INTENDED
AS WELL AS RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY FEES. I SUSPECT THAT'S INTENDED SO IT WOULD ENCOURAGE, IF THERE
FEES. I SUSPECT THAT'S INTENDED SO IT WOULD ENCOURAGE, IF THERE IS LEGITIMATE HATE CRIME THAT
SO IT WOULD ENCOURAGE, IF THERE IS LEGITIMATE HATE CRIME THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED, THAT THE
IS LEGITIMATE HATE CRIME THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED, THAT THE CIVIL ARENA CAN TAKE ACTION
HAS BEEN COMMITTED, THAT THE CIVIL ARENA CAN TAKE ACTION AGAINST THAT PERSON AND PUNISH
CIVIL ARENA CAN TAKE ACTION AGAINST THAT PERSON AND PUNISH THEM REASONABLY HARSH.
AGAINST THAT PERSON AND PUNISH THEM REASONABLY HARSH. THEY WOULD FACE MONETARY
THEM REASONABLY HARSH. THEY WOULD FACE MONETARY DAMAGES.
THEY WOULD FACE MONETARY DAMAGES. THEY WOULD FACE PUNITIVE DAMAGE,
DAMAGES. THEY WOULD FACE PUNITIVE DAMAGE, AGES , AND THEY WOULD BE
THEY WOULD FACE PUNITIVE DAMAGE, AGES , AND THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE ATTORNEY
AGES , AND THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE ATTORNEY FEES FOR THE PLAINTIFF, THE
REQUIRED TO PAY THE ATTORNEY FEES FOR THE PLAINTIFF, THE PERSON BRINGING THE ACTION.
FEES FOR THE PLAINTIFF, THE PERSON BRINGING THE ACTION. >>DOES A CIVIL CASE DEPEND UPON
PERSON BRINGING THE ACTION. >>DOES A CIVIL CASE DEPEND UPON THE CRIMINAL CASE OR CAN THEY BE
>>DOES A CIVIL CASE DEPEND UPON THE CRIMINAL CASE OR CAN THEY BE TWO SEPARATE THINGS?
THE CRIMINAL CASE OR CAN THEY BE TWO SEPARATE THINGS? >> THEY CAN BE TWO SEPARATE.
TWO SEPARATE THINGS? >> THEY CAN BE TWO SEPARATE. >>I DEFER TO POLLY, BUT TWO
>> THEY CAN BE TWO SEPARATE. >>I DEFER TO POLLY, BUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
>>I DEFER TO POLLY, BUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS. I BELIEVE THEY CAN UNDER
SEPARATE THINGS. I BELIEVE THEY CAN UNDER ILLINOIS -- THE BURDEN IN A
I BELIEVE THEY CAN UNDER ILLINOIS -- THE BURDEN IN A CRIMINAL CASE, AS JERRY SAID,
ILLINOIS -- THE BURDEN IN A CRIMINAL CASE, AS JERRY SAID, WAS PREPONDERANCE OF THE
CRIMINAL CASE, AS JERRY SAID, WAS PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE.
WAS PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE. >>IN CRIMINAL CASE, BEYOND A
EVIDENCE. >>IN CRIMINAL CASE, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
>>IN CRIMINAL CASE, BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. >>IN CIVIL, PREPONDERANCE OF THE
REASONABLE DOUBT. >>IN CIVIL, PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE.
>>IN CIVIL, PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE. >>THERE IS A SUSPECT AND FOR
EVIDENCE. >>THERE IS A SUSPECT AND FOR SOME REASON -- WELL, THERE IS
>>THERE IS A SUSPECT AND FOR SOME REASON -- WELL, THERE IS SOME HIGH PROFILE EXAMPLES WE
SOME REASON -- WELL, THERE IS SOME HIGH PROFILE EXAMPLES WE CAN THINK OF, BUT IF THEY ARE
SOME HIGH PROFILE EXAMPLES WE CAN THINK OF, BUT IF THEY ARE NOT CONVICTED IN A CRIMINAL
CAN THINK OF, BUT IF THEY ARE NOT CONVICTED IN A CRIMINAL COURT, THEY COULD STILL BE
NOT CONVICTED IN A CRIMINAL COURT, THEY COULD STILL BE CONVICTED IN A CIVIL COURT?
COURT, THEY COULD STILL BE CONVICTED IN A CIVIL COURT? >> IF YOU HAD A CIRCUMSTANCE
CONVICTED IN A CIVIL COURT? >> IF YOU HAD A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IT DID NOT APPEAR THERE
>> IF YOU HAD A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IT DID NOT APPEAR THERE WAS A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF PROOF,
WHERE IT DID NOT APPEAR THERE WAS A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF PROOF, ANOTHER, THE EVIDENCE DIDN'T
WAS A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF PROOF, ANOTHER, THE EVIDENCE DIDN'T WARRANT THAT YOU FELT AS A
ANOTHER, THE EVIDENCE DIDN'T WARRANT THAT YOU FELT AS A PROSECUTOR THAT YOU WERE GOING
WARRANT THAT YOU FELT AS A PROSECUTOR THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH GUILT
PROSECUTOR THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH GUILT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, THE
TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH GUILT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE FAMILY OR THE
BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE FAMILY OR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS BEEN HARMED
ATTORNEY FOR THE FAMILY OR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS BEEN HARMED WOULD HAVE THE ENTITLEMENT UNDER
INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS BEEN HARMED WOULD HAVE THE ENTITLEMENT UNDER THE STATUTE TO BRING A CIVIL
WOULD HAVE THE ENTITLEMENT UNDER THE STATUTE TO BRING A CIVIL ACTION.
THE STATUTE TO BRING A CIVIL ACTION. AND IF THEY WERE ABLE, BASE ON A
ACTION. AND IF THEY WERE ABLE, BASE ON A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE, A
AND IF THEY WERE ABLE, BASE ON A PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE, A LESSER BURDEN THAN IN A CRIMINAL
PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE, A LESSER BURDEN THAN IN A CRIMINAL CASE IF THEY WERE ABLE TO
LESSER BURDEN THAN IN A CRIMINAL CASE IF THEY WERE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEIR PROOF, THEY WOULD
CASE IF THEY WERE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEIR PROOF, THEY WOULD NOT ONLY RECOVER THEIR DAMAGES
SUSTAIN THEIR PROOF, THEY WOULD NOT ONLY RECOVER THEIR DAMAGES AND I SUSPECT AS TODD HAS
NOT ONLY RECOVER THEIR DAMAGES AND I SUSPECT AS TODD HAS POINTED OUT, THIS HAS BEEN ON
AND I SUSPECT AS TODD HAS POINTED OUT, THIS HAS BEEN ON GOING.
POINTED OUT, THIS HAS BEEN ON GOING. WE CAN RELATE BACK TO SEVERAL
GOING. WE CAN RELATE BACK TO SEVERAL DAYS AGO, HIS COMMENT ABOUT NOT
WE CAN RELATE BACK TO SEVERAL DAYS AGO, HIS COMMENT ABOUT NOT BEING -- NOT BEING COMFORTABLE
DAYS AGO, HIS COMMENT ABOUT NOT BEING -- NOT BEING COMFORTABLE PARKING THE VEHICLE OUTSIDE, HIS
BEING -- NOT BEING COMFORTABLE PARKING THE VEHICLE OUTSIDE, HIS CAR OUTSIDE.
PARKING THE VEHICLE OUTSIDE, HIS CAR OUTSIDE. SO YOU WOULD HAVE THIS ON GOING
CAR OUTSIDE. SO YOU WOULD HAVE THIS ON GOING LEVEL OF DAMAGES.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE THIS ON GOING LEVEL OF DAMAGES. YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE THE PUNITIVE
LEVEL OF DAMAGES. YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE THE PUNITIVE DAMAGE ASPECT AS WELL AS
YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE THE PUNITIVE DAMAGE ASPECT AS WELL AS RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY FEES.
DAMAGE ASPECT AS WELL AS RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY FEES. IT COULD BE A VERY, VERY
RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY FEES. IT COULD BE A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE EVENT FOR A PERSON WHO
IT COULD BE A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE EVENT FOR A PERSON WHO CHOOSES TO DEMONSTRATE HATE
EXPENSIVE EVENT FOR A PERSON WHO CHOOSES TO DEMONSTRATE HATE CRIME CONDUCT.
CHOOSES TO DEMONSTRATE HATE CRIME CONDUCT. >>THAT IS REASSURING THAT THERE
CRIME CONDUCT. >>THAT IS REASSURING THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS, BUT HOW ROW
>>THAT IS REASSURING THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS, BUT HOW ROW ASSURING IS IT TO YOU IN THAT
ARE OPTIONS, BUT HOW ROW ASSURING IS IT TO YOU IN THAT YOUR FAMILY'S LIVES WERE INVADED
ASSURING IS IT TO YOU IN THAT YOUR FAMILY'S LIVES WERE INVADED , WHETHER THIS COMES TO A
YOUR FAMILY'S LIVES WERE INVADED , WHETHER THIS COMES TO A CRIMINAL RESOLUTION AND OR A
, WHETHER THIS COMES TO A CRIMINAL RESOLUTION AND OR A CIVIL RESOLUTION, THERE IS NO
CRIMINAL RESOLUTION AND OR A CIVIL RESOLUTION, THERE IS NO RESOLUTION TO YOUR FAMILY'S
CIVIL RESOLUTION, THERE IS NO RESOLUTION TO YOUR FAMILY'S SAFETY OR YOUR FEELING OF FAMILY
RESOLUTION TO YOUR FAMILY'S SAFETY OR YOUR FEELING OF FAMILY SAFETY, IS THAT A FAIR
SAFETY OR YOUR FEELING OF FAMILY SAFETY, IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
SAFETY, IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? >> I THINK SO BECAUSE YOU CAN
ASSESSMENT? >> I THINK SO BECAUSE YOU CAN POINT AND KNOW EXACTLY WHO IT
>> I THINK SO BECAUSE YOU CAN POINT AND KNOW EXACTLY WHO IT WAS.
POINT AND KNOW EXACTLY WHO IT WAS. I MEAN THEY STILL MIGHT BE
WAS. I MEAN THEY STILL MIGHT BE WALKING AROUND FOR AWHILE, AND
I MEAN THEY STILL MIGHT BE WALKING AROUND FOR AWHILE, AND IF THEY GO TO JAIL, THEY MIGHT
WALKING AROUND FOR AWHILE, AND IF THEY GO TO JAIL, THEY MIGHT BE WALKING AND A YEAR FROM NOW.
IF THEY GO TO JAIL, THEY MIGHT BE WALKING AND A YEAR FROM NOW. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT, WHATEVER
BE WALKING AND A YEAR FROM NOW. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT, WHATEVER WAS THERE HAS BEEN DAMAGED.
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT, WHATEVER WAS THERE HAS BEEN DAMAGED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVER COMES
WAS THERE HAS BEEN DAMAGED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVER COMES BACK ALL THE WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVER COMES BACK ALL THE WAY. >>
WHEN WE HAVE CIVIL CASES LIKE THAT, DO FAMILIES HAVE THAT SAME FEELING BEING WELL, YEAH, I CAN
THAT, DO FAMILIES HAVE THAT SAME FEELING BEING WELL, YEAH, I CAN GET SOME MONEY.
FEELING BEING WELL, YEAH, I CAN GET SOME MONEY. OR, YES, THERE CAN BE ATTORNEY
GET SOME MONEY. OR, YES, THERE CAN BE ATTORNEY FEES ARE PAID FOR, WHATEVER,
OR, YES, THERE CAN BE ATTORNEY FEES ARE PAID FOR, WHATEVER, BUT --
FEES ARE PAID FOR, WHATEVER, BUT -- >>YOU CAN NEVER MAKE THE VICTIM
BUT -- >>YOU CAN NEVER MAKE THE VICTIM WHOLE.
>>YOU CAN NEVER MAKE THE VICTIM WHOLE. PAYMENT OF MONEY ALONE MAY COVER
WHOLE. PAYMENT OF MONEY ALONE MAY COVER THE SPRAY PAINT, BUT DOESN'T
PAYMENT OF MONEY ALONE MAY COVER THE SPRAY PAINT, BUT DOESN'T HEAL THE WOUND IN THE COMMUNITY
THE SPRAY PAINT, BUT DOESN'T HEAL THE WOUND IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE FAMILY.
HEAL THE WOUND IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE FAMILY. >>HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT -- DID YOU
AND THE FAMILY. >>HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT -- DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT?
>>HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT -- DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? >> NO.
WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? >> NO. >>HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT -- THIS
>> NO. >>HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT -- THIS PROBABLY GOES BEYOND HATE
>>HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT -- THIS PROBABLY GOES BEYOND HATE CRIMES, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT AS A
PROBABLY GOES BEYOND HATE CRIMES, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT AS A STATE'S ATTORNEY ASSURING YOUR
CRIMES, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT AS A STATE'S ATTORNEY ASSURING YOUR CLIENTS THAT YOU ARE DOING ALL
STATE'S ATTORNEY ASSURING YOUR CLIENTS THAT YOU ARE DOING ALL YOU CAN AND THAT THEY NEED TO
CLIENTS THAT YOU ARE DOING ALL YOU CAN AND THAT THEY NEED TO REST ASSURED THAT EVERYTHING
YOU CAN AND THAT THEY NEED TO REST ASSURED THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE ALL RIGHT. I THINK THE
REST ASSURED THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE ALL RIGHT. I THINK THE BEST EXPLA NATION BEING WE
WILL BE ALL RIGHT. I THINK THE BEST EXPLA NATION BEING WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THE
BEST EXPLA NATION BEING WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. WE REPRESENT THE VICTIMS OF A
STATE OF ILLINOIS. WE REPRESENT THE VICTIMS OF A CRIME.
WE REPRESENT THE VICTIMS OF A CRIME. I HAVE FOUND THAT EXPLAINING AND
CRIME. I HAVE FOUND THAT EXPLAINING AND BEING HONEST AND TRUTHFUL WITH
I HAVE FOUND THAT EXPLAINING AND BEING HONEST AND TRUTHFUL WITH PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT, IF
BEING HONEST AND TRUTHFUL WITH PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT, IF YOU DON'T GIVE PEOPLE
PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT, IF YOU DON'T GIVE PEOPLE EXPECTATION BEYOND WHAT CAN BE
YOU DON'T GIVE PEOPLE EXPECTATION BEYOND WHAT CAN BE PRO DUED, THEN PEOPLE ARE
EXPECTATION BEYOND WHAT CAN BE PRO DUED, THEN PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY REASONABLE.
PRO DUED, THEN PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY REASONABLE. THE CRIME VICTIM, TODD, HE WAS A
GENERALLY REASONABLE. THE CRIME VICTIM, TODD, HE WAS A VICTIM OF A CRIME.
THE CRIME VICTIM, TODD, HE WAS A VICTIM OF A CRIME. THERE IS NO QUESTION.
VICTIM OF A CRIME. THERE IS NO QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS WHO COMMITTED
THERE IS NO QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME.
THE QUESTION IS WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME. BUT THE CRIME VICTIM IN MY
THE CRIME. BUT THE CRIME VICTIM IN MY EXPERIENCE IS VERY REASONABLE.
BUT THE CRIME VICTIM IN MY EXPERIENCE IS VERY REASONABLE. THEY SIMPLY TAKE -- IF WE HE CAN
EXPERIENCE IS VERY REASONABLE. THEY SIMPLY TAKE -- IF WE HE CAN PLAIN TO THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT
THEY SIMPLY TAKE -- IF WE HE CAN PLAIN TO THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM,
PLAIN TO THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM, THEY ARE VERY RECEPTIVE.
AND WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM, THEY ARE VERY RECEPTIVE. THANKFULLY SO.
THEY ARE VERY RECEPTIVE. THANKFULLY SO. >>ARE YOU AT THAT STAGE YET?
THANKFULLY SO. >>ARE YOU AT THAT STAGE YET? >> I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW
>>ARE YOU AT THAT STAGE YET? >> I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHO IT WAS.
>> I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHO IT WAS. BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THINGS HAPPEN
WHO IT WAS. BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THINGS HAPPEN THAT AREN'T HAPPENING.
BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THINGS HAPPEN THAT AREN'T HAPPENING. I THINK AS MY WIFE AND I HAVE
THAT AREN'T HAPPENING. I THINK AS MY WIFE AND I HAVE TALKED, PROBABLY THE ONE -- AND
I THINK AS MY WIFE AND I HAVE TALKED, PROBABLY THE ONE -- AND I THINK IT IS JUST THE WAY BE A
TALKED, PROBABLY THE ONE -- AND I THINK IT IS JUST THE WAY BE A PERSON IN A REGULAR CITIZEN
I THINK IT IS JUST THE WAY BE A PERSON IN A REGULAR CITIZEN VERSUS SOMEBODY IN LAW
PERSON IN A REGULAR CITIZEN VERSUS SOMEBODY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE
VERSUS SOMEBODY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT THE ONLY CASE THAT THE
ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT THE ONLY CASE THAT THE POLICE ARE WORKING ON.
NOT THE ONLY CASE THAT THE POLICE ARE WORKING ON. ALTHOUGH IT IS THE ONLY THING
POLICE ARE WORKING ON. ALTHOUGH IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT IT CONSUMES OUR LIVES.
ALTHOUGH IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT IT CONSUMES OUR LIVES. SO LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THE
THAT IT CONSUMES OUR LIVES. SO LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THE LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION CAN DO A
SO LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THE LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION CAN DO A LONG WAY TO HELPING ALLEVIATE
LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION CAN DO A LONG WAY TO HELPING ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE FRUS STRAYINGS OR
LONG WAY TO HELPING ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE FRUS STRAYINGS OR WORRIES OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS
SOME OF THOSE FRUS STRAYINGS OR WORRIES OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE.
WORRIES OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE
TO BE. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE THING THAT IF WE WERE TO GO
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE THING THAT IF WE WERE TO GO BACK, WE WOULD ASK MORE
THING THAT IF WE WERE TO GO BACK, WE WOULD ASK MORE QUESTIONS EARLY ON AND TRY TO
BACK, WE WOULD ASK MORE QUESTIONS EARLY ON AND TRY TO DEVELOP A LINE OF COMMUNICATION
QUESTIONS EARLY ON AND TRY TO DEVELOP A LINE OF COMMUNICATION THAT WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE
DEVELOP A LINE OF COMMUNICATION THAT WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON GOING JUST SO WE FELT LIKE
THAT WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON GOING JUST SO WE FELT LIKE THINGS WERE GOING NORMALLY BUT
ON GOING JUST SO WE FELT LIKE THINGS WERE GOING NORMALLY BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I REMEMBER
THINGS WERE GOING NORMALLY BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I REMEMBER THESE GUYS HAVE OTHER CASES AND
AT THE SAME TIME, I REMEMBER THESE GUYS HAVE OTHER CASES AND THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY
THESE GUYS HAVE OTHER CASES AND THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN, AND THEY ARE GIVING ME
THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN, AND THEY ARE GIVING ME INFORMATION WHEN THEY TYPICALLY
CAN, AND THEY ARE GIVING ME INFORMATION WHEN THEY TYPICALLY DO.
INFORMATION WHEN THEY TYPICALLY DO. MOST PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE,
DO. MOST PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE, PROBABLY FEEL THE SAME WAY, THEY
MOST PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE, PROBABLY FEEL THE SAME WAY, THEY WANT MORE INFORMING AND THEY
PROBABLY FEEL THE SAME WAY, THEY WANT MORE INFORMING AND THEY WANT IT NOW.
WANT MORE INFORMING AND THEY WANT IT NOW. >>WE DEAL WITH HUMAN NATURE AND
WANT IT NOW. >>WE DEAL WITH HUMAN NATURE AND VICTIMS TYPICALLY REACT IN
>>WE DEAL WITH HUMAN NATURE AND VICTIMS TYPICALLY REACT IN SIMILAR FASHION.
VICTIMS TYPICALLY REACT IN SIMILAR FASHION. I HAVE FOUND A DIALOGUE WITH
SIMILAR FASHION. I HAVE FOUND A DIALOGUE WITH CRIME VICTIM SEEMS TO BE THE
I HAVE FOUND A DIALOGUE WITH CRIME VICTIM SEEMS TO BE THE BEST.
CRIME VICTIM SEEMS TO BE THE BEST. I WAS IN AN OFFICE YESTERDAY
BEST. I WAS IN AN OFFICE YESTERDAY WHERE ONE OF THE ASSISTANTS WAS
I WAS IN AN OFFICE YESTERDAY WHERE ONE OF THE ASSISTANTS WAS DISCUSSING WITH A MOTHER WHO HAD
WHERE ONE OF THE ASSISTANTS WAS DISCUSSING WITH A MOTHER WHO HAD A SON WHO HAD BEEN KILLED, AND
DISCUSSING WITH A MOTHER WHO HAD A SON WHO HAD BEEN KILLED, AND YOU CAN SENSE THAT THE
A SON WHO HAD BEEN KILLED, AND YOU CAN SENSE THAT THE FRUSTRATION IN TERMS OF GETTING
YOU CAN SENSE THAT THE FRUSTRATION IN TERMS OF GETTING THE COURT AND GETTING RESOLUTION
FRUSTRATION IN TERMS OF GETTING THE COURT AND GETTING RESOLUTION OF THE CASE.
THE COURT AND GETTING RESOLUTION OF THE CASE. BUT THE MORE TIME THAT IS SPENT
OF THE CASE. BUT THE MORE TIME THAT IS SPENT THAT YOU SIMPLY EXPLAIN, AS TODD
BUT THE MORE TIME THAT IS SPENT THAT YOU SIMPLY EXPLAIN, AS TODD RECOGNIZES, YOU EXPLAIN THE
THAT YOU SIMPLY EXPLAIN, AS TODD RECOGNIZES, YOU EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND YOU GIVE PEOPLE A
RECOGNIZES, YOU EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND YOU GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS
PROCESS AND YOU GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS EN SPITE OF ALL THE ANXIETY, ALL
CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS EN SPITE OF ALL THE ANXIETY, ALL THE STRESS, ALL THE DIFFICULTY
EN SPITE OF ALL THE ANXIETY, ALL THE STRESS, ALL THE DIFFICULTY THAT A VICTIM UNDERGOES, THAT
THE STRESS, ALL THE DIFFICULTY THAT A VICTIM UNDERGOES, THAT COMMUNICATION DIALOGUE SEEMS TO
THAT A VICTIM UNDERGOES, THAT COMMUNICATION DIALOGUE SEEMS TO BE THE BEST MESSAGE SENT.
COMMUNICATION DIALOGUE SEEMS TO BE THE BEST MESSAGE SENT. >>LET ME SHARE PERCENTAGES WITH
BE THE BEST MESSAGE SENT. >>LET ME SHARE PERCENTAGES WITH EVERYBODY.
>>LET ME SHARE PERCENTAGES WITH EVERYBODY. THESE ARE 2010 PERCENTAGES
EVERYBODY. THESE ARE 2010 PERCENTAGES REPORTED BY THE F.B.I.
THESE ARE 2010 PERCENTAGES REPORTED BY THE F.B.I. THESE ARE NATIONAL PERCENTAGES
REPORTED BY THE F.B.I. THESE ARE NATIONAL PERCENTAGES OF ALL THE HATE CRIMES REPORTED
THESE ARE NATIONAL PERCENTAGES OF ALL THE HATE CRIMES REPORTED TO THE F.B.I. IN 2010, 47 .5%
OF ALL THE HATE CRIMES REPORTED TO THE F.B.I. IN 2010, 47 .5% WERE RACIALLY MOTIVATED.
TO THE F.B.I. IN 2010, 47 .5% WERE RACIALLY MOTIVATED. 20% BASED ON RELIGION, 19% ON
WERE RACIALLY MOTIVATED. 20% BASED ON RELIGION, 19% ON *** ORIENTATION.
20% BASED ON RELIGION, 19% ON *** ORIENTATION. 13% ETHNICITY, AND .5% BASED ON
*** ORIENTATION. 13% ETHNICITY, AND .5% BASED ON DISABILITY.
13% ETHNICITY, AND .5% BASED ON DISABILITY. YOUR CASE, OBVIOUSLY IS A VERY
DISABILITY. YOUR CASE, OBVIOUSLY IS A VERY RARE CASE, AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY
YOUR CASE, OBVIOUSLY IS A VERY RARE CASE, AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY HOPING FOR RESOLUTION THAT MAY
RARE CASE, AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY HOPING FOR RESOLUTION THAT MAY NEVER COME.
HOPING FOR RESOLUTION THAT MAY NEVER COME. WOULD RESOLUTION HELP OR HAVE
NEVER COME. WOULD RESOLUTION HELP OR HAVE YOU GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE --
WOULD RESOLUTION HELP OR HAVE YOU GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE -- >>RESOLUTION, CERTAINLIMENT THE
YOU GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE -- >>RESOLUTION, CERTAINLIMENT THE BOYS ARE ALWAYS ASKING "HAVE
>>RESOLUTION, CERTAINLIMENT THE BOYS ARE ALWAYS ASKING "HAVE THEY CAUGHT ANYBODY?
BOYS ARE ALWAYS ASKING "HAVE THEY CAUGHT ANYBODY? DO THEY KNOW WHO THEY MIGHT BE?"
THEY CAUGHT ANYBODY? DO THEY KNOW WHO THEY MIGHT BE?" THEY HAVE THIS NEED TO KNOW, AS
DO THEY KNOW WHO THEY MIGHT BE?" THEY HAVE THIS NEED TO KNOW, AS ADULTS, WE DON'T SAY IT AS MUCH.
THEY HAVE THIS NEED TO KNOW, AS ADULTS, WE DON'T SAY IT AS MUCH. IF YOU KNOW WHO IT IS, THEN
ADULTS, WE DON'T SAY IT AS MUCH. IF YOU KNOW WHO IT IS, THEN MAYBE YOU HAVE THAT PICTURE --
IF YOU KNOW WHO IT IS, THEN MAYBE YOU HAVE THAT PICTURE -- YOU KIND OF -- AND THE WEEKS AND
MAYBE YOU HAVE THAT PICTURE -- YOU KIND OF -- AND THE WEEKS AND PROBABLY STILL HAPPEN, IN THE
YOU KIND OF -- AND THE WEEKS AND PROBABLY STILL HAPPEN, IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS AFTER IT
PROBABLY STILL HAPPEN, IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS AFTER IT HAPPENED, WE FOUND OURSELVES
DAYS AND WEEKS AFTER IT HAPPENED, WE FOUND OURSELVES WALKING AROUND TOWN WONDERING IF
HAPPENED, WE FOUND OURSELVES WALKING AROUND TOWN WONDERING IF PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT US
WALKING AROUND TOWN WONDERING IF PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT US BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED OR IF
PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT US BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED OR IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT US BECAUSE
BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED OR IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT US BECAUSE THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT US BECAUSE THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT. >>LET ME TURN TO POLLY FOR A
THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT. >>LET ME TURN TO POLLY FOR A FINAL REMARK.
>>LET ME TURN TO POLLY FOR A FINAL REMARK. VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE WITH REGARD
FINAL REMARK. VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE WITH REGARD TO THIS BECAUSE QUITE OFTEN THE
VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE WITH REGARD TO THIS BECAUSE QUITE OFTEN THE PERSON WHO IS PERPETRATOR WHO
TO THIS BECAUSE QUITE OFTEN THE PERSON WHO IS PERPETRATOR WHO MAKES THE HEADLINES BUT REALLY
PERSON WHO IS PERPETRATOR WHO MAKES THE HEADLINES BUT REALLY IT IS THE VICTIMS WE NEED TO
MAKES THE HEADLINES BUT REALLY IT IS THE VICTIMS WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.
IT IS THE VICTIMS WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. YOU HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE FOR
WORRY ABOUT. YOU HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE FOR THEM?
YOU HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE FOR THEM? >> WE DO.
THEM? >> WE DO. ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
>> WE DO. ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, THEIR WEB SITE HAS A LOT
ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, THEIR WEB SITE HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN
OFFICE, THEIR WEB SITE HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO.
OF INFORMATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS,
GO. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS, COUNSELING, OR EVEN FUNDING
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS, COUNSELING, OR EVEN FUNDING AVAILABLE.
COUNSELING, OR EVEN FUNDING AVAILABLE. I CAN ALSO GIVE YOU
AVAILABLE. I CAN ALSO GIVE YOU 1-800- NUMBER.
I CAN ALSO GIVE YOU 1-800- NUMBER. >>DO THE WEB SITE.
1-800- NUMBER. >>DO THE WEB SITE. >>1-800- 228-3368.
>>DO THE WEB SITE. >>1-800- 228-3368. THAT'S THE VOICE NUMBER, TTY
>>1-800- 228-3368. THAT'S THE VOICE NUMBER, TTY NUMBER, IS 1-877-398-1130.
THAT'S THE VOICE NUMBER, TTY NUMBER, IS 1-877-398-1130. WEB SITE, I AM ASHAPED TO ADMIT.
NUMBER, IS 1-877-398-1130. WEB SITE, I AM ASHAPED TO ADMIT. SEARCH FOR ILLINOIS ATTORNEY
WEB SITE, I AM ASHAPED TO ADMIT. SEARCH FOR ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL.
SEARCH FOR ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL. >>IT IS PROBABLY ATGIL.GOV.
GENERAL. >>IT IS PROBABLY ATGIL.GOV. I THINK IS WHAT.
>>IT IS PROBABLY ATGIL.GOV. I THINK IS WHAT. AT ANY RATE.
I THINK IS WHAT. AT ANY RATE. THANK YOU TO JERRY BRADY, PEORIA
AT ANY RATE. THANK YOU TO JERRY BRADY, PEORIA COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY, TO TODD
THANK YOU TO JERRY BRADY, PEORIA COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY, TO TODD HOLLIS, HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER AT
COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY, TO TODD HOLLIS, HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER AT ELMWOOD, AND POLLY HAYES FROM
HOLLIS, HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER AT ELMWOOD, AND POLLY HAYES FROM ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
ELMWOOD, AND POLLY HAYES FROM ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. >>THANK YOU.
OFFICE. >>THANK YOU. >>AND THAT CONCLUDES ANOTHER
>>THANK YOU. >>AND THAT CONCLUDES ANOTHER SEASON OF "AT ISSUE." WE WILL BE
>>AND THAT CONCLUDES ANOTHER SEASON OF "AT ISSUE." WE WILL BE ON THE AIR WITH OUR SHORT "AT
SEASON OF "AT ISSUE." WE WILL BE ON THE AIR WITH OUR SHORT "AT ISSUE." IN BRIEF, AND WE WILL
ON THE AIR WITH OUR SHORT "AT ISSUE." IN BRIEF, AND WE WILL REJOIN YOU WITH FULL "AT ISSUES"
ISSUE." IN BRIEF, AND WE WILL REJOIN YOU WITH FULL "AT ISSUES" IN SEPTEMBER.
REJOIN YOU WITH FULL "AT ISSUES" IN SEPTEMBER. ENJOY YOUR SUMMER.
IN SEPTEMBER. ENJOY YOUR SUMMER. >>