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SENATOR JOHNSON: TODAY ON
UPFRONT -- MIKE: TODAY ON
UPFRONT, BRAD SCHIMMEL ON
EFFORTS TO REINSTATE THE LAW.
IN THE SENATE REMATCH RACE.
WHY SENATOR LOST HIS SEAT IN A
JOB BACK.
AND A PRIMARY IN A PRIMARY AND A
MILWAUKEE AREA SENATE SEAT, WHY
DID SENATOR LENA TAYLOR THINK
SHE IS BEING CHALLENGED BY A
FELLOW DEMOCRAT?
TO WISCONSIN.
GOUSHA."
MIKE HELLO AGAIN, EVERYONE, AND
WELCOME TO "UPFRONT."
WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF A JUDGE
TOMORROW IN DANE COUNTY.
TWO WEEKS AGO, WILLIAM FAUST
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
RIGHT TO WORK LAW SAY MEMBERSHIP
IN A UNION AND PAYING DUES
EMPLOYMENT.
BUT THREE UNIONS SUED, SAYING
THEIR SERVICES.
EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TO
REPRESENT ALL EMPLOYEES.
THE WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE HAS ASKED JUDGE FAUST TO
APPEALS.
THAT REQUEST FOR STATE WILL BE
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN
BRAD SCHIMMEL.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE
PROGRAM.
WHAT IS AT STAKE IN TOMORROW'S
HEARING?
BRAD: IN T INTERIM, THERE'S
GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO
BATTLE THE CASE OUT, AND PEOPLE
RULES ARE.
RIGHT NO
BECAUSE THERE ARE QUESTIONS
ABOUT JUST HOW FAR DOES THE DANE
COUNTY JUDGE'S RULING REACH?
DOES IT REACH JUST THE THREE
PARTIES INVOLVED?
CERTAIN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
STATE OF WISCONSIN, THE
WORKFORC, THE GOVERNOR, AND I
FROM ENFORCING IT.
POINT.
ALSO, IF SOMEONE TOOK A SIMILAR
CHALLENGE TO ANOTHER COUNTY, A
JUDGE IN ANOTHER COUNTY, ANOTHER
JUDGE IN DANE COUNTY COULD COME
TO A COMPLETE AND DIFFERENT
RULING BECAUSE THE DANE COUNTY
CIRCUIT JUDGES ORDER DOESN'T
HAVE ANY ORDER OVER ANYONE ELSE.
WE DO NEED TO GET TO THE COURT
OF APPEALS TO DECIDE WHAT THE
RULES ARE IN A WAY TO HAVE SOME
BINDING AUTHORITY.
POSSIBLE THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO
ARE CURRENTLY NOT PAYING DUES
WOULD HAVE TO PAY DUE IF THE
JUDGE DOES NOT GRANT YOUR STAY.
AND COMPEL THAT.
YOU COULD END UP WITH MORE
LITIGATION.
THIS COULD START GETTING VERY
COSTLY FOR EMPLOYERS, FOR
EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO CHALLENGE
THEM, AND FOR THE UNIONS
THEMSELVES.
IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO PUT
ANYTHING ON HOLD, LET'S FIND OUT
OF APPEALS.
TO GET A STAY, YOU HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU
HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL LIKELIHOOD OF
WINNING ON THE MERITS, AND GIVEN
THAT WE ARE ONE OF 26 STATES
THAT HAS RIGHT TO WORK LAWS,
MANY, MANY STATE COURTS AND
SEVENTH CIRCUIT COURT OF
APPEALS, WHICH COVERS WISCONSIN
AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL -- ALL OF
THOSE COURTS HAVE CONCLUDED THAT
STATE LEGISLATORS MAY MAKE A
POLICY DECISIONS GO RIGHT TO
WORK IF THEY CHOOSE TO.
WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A STRONG
CHANCE OF WINNING ON THE MERITS,
AND WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT
PRONG OF THE REQUIREMENT.
IRREPARABLE HARM IT.
IRREPARABLE HARM MAY BE THE
LITIGATION AND CONFUSION
EXISTING IN THE INTERIM.
VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS RIGHT
TO WORK LAW IS STRUCTURED IN
SUCH A WAY THAT IT WILL
WITHSTAND FURTHER LEGAL
CHALLENGES.
BELIEVE THE LAW IS ON OUR SIDE.
THE LEGISLATURE FOLLOWED ITS
STATES HAVE DONE AND DID A
SIMILAR THING.
TO THE STATE SUPREME COURT?
SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT WOULD BE
RECEPTIVE THAN GOING TO THE
APPEALS COURT.
BRAD: THAT
ISN'T FORECLOSED AT THIS POINT.
ALL OF THEM SO FAR HAVE FILED
THE DANE COUNTY JUDGE.
WE
START WITH THAT, AND FILED A
DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS.
WE STILL COULD COME AT SOME
APPEALS TO BYPASS THIS.
MIKE: LET'S TALK ABOUT VOTER ID,
THAT SENSE WE TALKED.
THE NOTION THAT THE SEVENTH
ARE AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE WHO
MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO VOT
BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROBLEMS
GETTING THE ID, THERE ARE NUMBER
OCCUR.
FOR HAVING WISCONSIN DO
SOMETHING THAT THE STATE OF
INDIANA DOES, HAVING PEOPLE SIGN
ARE.
IS THAT LIKELY TO HAPPEN?
IS THAT LIKELY TO BE THE FIX
THAT WE WILL SEE AT SOME POINT?
BRAD: I CAN'T SAY HOW LIKELY IT
IS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE
DISCUSSING HIS ATTORNEYS FOR THE
STATE WITH OUR CLIENTS, THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE
CHANGES.
CHANGE ADMINISTRATIVELY, IN HOW
THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES
GOES ABOUT ISSUING PHOTO IDS.
ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS IS
AN AFFIDAVIT, THAT A PERSON
FEELS OUT.
-- FILLS
OUT.
THEY WIL GET A TEMPORARY VOTER
PURPOSES.
VOTE AND
POTENTIAL FRAUD.
WE WILL NOW HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF
VOTE.
IT DOES SATISFY THE LEGISLATIVE
FOR ANYONE THAT DOES VOTE.
WE ARE EXPLORING THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH OUR
CLIENTS, THERE IS A STRONG
ELIGIBLE VOTER HAS THE
THEY DO IT WITH A PHOTO ID.
IT MAKES IT EASIER AS AN
CLIENT DOING THE RIGHT THING.
AND I THINK THEY ARE.
MIKE: HELP ME BE CLEAR ON THIS.
THIS COULD BE DONE THROUGH AN
ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENT, NOT
THROUGH VILLAGES LATER PROCESS?
PROCESS?
BRAD LEGISLATION REQUIRES A
PHOTO ID, THERE HAS TO BE SOME
SORT OF PHOTO INVOLVES TO DO IT
CHANGE.
WE COULD HAVE A PERSON SIGNED AN
AFFIDAVIT, AND OBTAIN A PHOTO ID
FR DMV IT WOULD BE
SATISFACTORY FOR VOTING.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE EXPLORING.
MIKE: AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL,
GIVE ME YOUR ASSESSMENT OF HOW
THE APRIL 5 PRIMARY WORKED.
WERE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT
-- LINES AT COLLEGES?
WERE
LINES, BUT WE'VE HAD NO ONE
ELECTION.
CONCERNS
ABOUT THE ELECTION.
LINES WERE LONG IT, AND I WISH
WE COULD SAY AT EVERY ELECTION
WE HAD LARGE VOTER TURNOUT.
REGISTER SAME DAY.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT
UNDER OUR LAW.
BUT ANYONE WHO GOES OUT AND
SHOULD EXPECT TO WAIT.
THAT IS A LENGTHY PROCESS, YOU
WILL HAVE TO FILL OUT PAPERWORK
DELAY THE PROCESS.
THE LINES WE SAW WERE ATTRIBUTED
TO HIGH TURNOUT AND PEOPLE
TRYING TO REGISTER SAME DAY.
MIKE: ANY CONCERNS ABOUT
NOVEMBER, WHEN THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE GOING TO THE POLLS WILL
BE MUCH GREATER THAN THE NUMBER
WHO WENT IN APRIL?
BRAD: MY HOPE IS THAT ALL
MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY CLERKS WILL
PLAN TO HAVE PLENTY OF WORKERS
SO WE WON'T SEE ANY GLITCHES.
SCHIMMEL IS WITH US.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
NEXT ON "UPFRONT,"
A SENATOR WHO
LOST HIS SEAT IN THE RECALL
WANTS IT BACK.
TAYLOR FACING THE DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARY CHALLENGE?
CONTINUES.