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>> IT IS TIME.
>> AND NOW, IT IS TIME
FOR HERMAN AND SHARRON.
>> I LOVE YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US AND WE
APPRECIATE IT, AND
EVERYONE THAT IS
WATCHING RIGHT NOW, WE
APPRECIATE IT.
AND IF YOU EVER WANTED
TO BE APPRECIATED, NOW
IS THE TIME.
>> AND THE WORD IS
APPRECIATED.
>> AND WE HAVE A GUY ON
THE NEVER THOUGHT I
WOULD HAVE, BECAUSE.
>> HE DID NOT WANT TO BE
HERE WITH YOU?
>> NO, I AM KIND OF IN
AWE OF THE GUY, AND THE
FIRST TIME, AND HE IS AN
UNBELIEVABLE PRODUCER.
AND THE DIRECTOR AND YOU
NAME IT, YOU CAN DO IT,
AND ANYTHING ON THE
VIDEO, HE HAS EVEN DONE
THE SUPER BOWL
COMMERCIALS.
>> WOW
>> AND MANY AND MANY
MAJOR CHRISTIAN
TELEVISION NETWORK
PROGRAMS, IF YOU EVER
SEE ONE, AND IT MIGHT BE
RARE, BUT YOU SEE ONE
ONCE AND WELL, OKAY?
AND WHEN YOU SEE ONE AND
YOU SAY, THAT IS WELL
DONE.
AND THAT IS THE SLICKEST
THING THAT I'VE EVER
SEEN.
AND HE PROBABLY HAD A
HAND IN IT.
AND I MEAN, THE FIRST
TIME WE MET, IT WAS MANY
YEARS AGO.
AND HE WAS DOING A
SEMINAR, AND I'VE NEVER
HEARD ANYBODY LIKE HIM.
NOBODY LIKE HIM BEFORE
AND I THOUGHT, AND YOU
KNOW YOU GO TO THE NRB,
AND THE RHETORIC IS
BASICALLY THE SAME AND
THEM ANYWHERE YOU GO,
AND WHAT SESSION YOU GO
TO, AND I WENT INTO HIS
SESSION, AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN I WAS HEARING
THINGS AND I WAS GOING,
I THOUGHT THAT VERY
THING.
AND THAT IS
UNBELIEVABLE.
AND I MEAN, I JUST
CONNECTED WITH
EVERYTHING HE WAS
SAYING.
>> AND YOU KNOW WHAT HIS
NAME IS?
PHIL COOK.
>> AND YOU ARE WATCHING
RIGHT NOW AND YOU SAID
I'VE HEARD THAT NAME.
>> HE IS INTERNATIONALLY
KNOWN FILMMAKER, AND A
MEDIA PRODUCER, AND A
SPEAKER AND AN AUTHOR,
AND HIS BOOKS HAVE
CHANGED THE WAY
NONPROFITS AND RELIGIOUS
ORGANIZATIONS USE MEDIA
TO TELL THEIR STORY.
AND HE FOUNDED COOK
PICTURES, WHICH IS A
MEDIA PRODUCTION AND A
COMPANY IN BURBANK
CALIFORNIA.
AND HE IS A CALIFORNIA
GUY.
>> AND THIS IS HIS
LATEST BOOK AND WRITE IT
ON THE SCREEN, AND HE IS
ABSOLUTELY A PHENOMENAL
WRITER.
AND WE ACTUALLY
>> OVERLAPPING
CONVERSATION
>> I SHOULD HIRE THIS
GUY.
>> THAT IS RIGHT.
>> HE IS A PROMOTER.
>> AND TURN THE MONITOR
AROUND, AND PHIL, IS A
PRODUCERS PRODUCER, AND
HE EVEN TRAINS PEOPLE
HOW TO DO THIS AND DO IT
CORRECTLY.
>> AND SHOULDN'T HE BE
PRODUCING THIS WHOLE
PROGRAM ALL IT IS GOING
ON?
>> NO, AND WHEN HE
LEAVES HERE, HE IS GOING
TO GO.
>> LAUGHTER
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
>> AND WHAT THE HECK IS
THAT?
AND HE IS AN
INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN
WRITER AND SPEAKER AND A
LONGTIME MEDIA
CONSULTANT AND A
PRODUCER AND FILMMAKER
AND AUTHOR, AND HE IS
PRODUCED MEDIA
PRODUCTIONS FOR MORE
THAN 40 COUNTRIES.
AND YOU HAVE BEEN IN
SOME PLACES
>> PRETTY ROUGH PLACES.
>> IT WAS A MIRACLE THAT
YOU MADE IT THROUGH.
>> AND YES, IT WAS A
MIRACLE
>> AND WHY WOULD YOU GO
THERE?
>> I'M AN IDIOT.
AND THE PROBLEM IS AND
YOU WORK FOR THE LORD,
AND YOU'RE GOING AFTER
MINISTRIES AND NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
MEDICAL MISSIONS, AND
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THAT,
AND YOU CAN GET INTO
SOME PRETTY BAD PLACES
AND DARK PLACES OUT
THERE.
AND IT IS FUN TO GO
DOCUMENT WHAT THEY ARE
DOING AND TELL THEIR
STORY.
>> AND EVEN PAULA ZAHN,
AND SHE WAS WITH CNN AND
SHE SAID, HE IS A RARE
WORKING PRODUCER IN
HOLLYWOOD AND YOU HAVE
GOT A PHD IN THEOLOGY?
>> I DO.
>> AND I SHOULD BE
SAYING DOCTOR PHIL?
>> I'M THE ORIGINAL
DOCTOR PHIL.
I GUESS.
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> AND WHAT PROMPTED ONE
BIG THING?
>> AND I SPEAK ALL OVER
THE WORLD, AND WHENEVER
I DO A CONFERENCE OR AN
EVENT.
>> AND YOU DO SEMINARS.
AND WORKSHOPS.
>> AND I LOVE YOUR
WORKSHOPS.
YOU ARE VERY KIND AND
THIS IS HOW WE MET.
>> AND YOU REMEMBER THE
BOOT CAMP?
>> AND I REMEMBER, YES
ABSOLUTELY, AND WHENEVER
I SPEAK PEOPLE WILL SAY,
YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN
WORKING MY ENTIRE
CAREER, AND I'VE BEEN IN
MINISTRY MY ENTIRE
CAREER, BUT I CANNOT SAY
IF I'VE ACCOMPLISHED
WHAT GOD REALLY PUT ME
ON THE EARTH TO DO.
AND SO THE PEOPLE IN
THEIR 40S AND 50S AND
60S AND EVEN THEIR 70S
WILL TELL ME THAT.
AND I SAID, DO YOU KNOW
WHAT?
WE LIVE IN THE MOST
DISTRACTED CULTURE IN
THE HISTORY OF THE
WORLD.
AND THIS IS EASY TO BE
DIVERTED FROM WHAT GOD
REALLY WANTS YOU TO DO,
AND I WROTE A BOOK TO
HELP THE PEOPLE TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.
>> AND HOW DID YOU FIND
OUT THAT YOU WERE WHERE
GOD WANTED TO BE AND
WHERE GOD WANTED YOU TO
GO?
>> AND THAT IS AN
INTERESTING STORY.
>> YOUR OBT?
>> AND THAT IS RIGHT,
YOU READ IT, YOU READ
THE BOOK.
AND THIS IS AN
INTERESTING STORY, AND I
SPENT MY CAREER OF 35
YEARS AND WORKING WITH
CHURCHES AND NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS AND
MINISTRIES, AND I
DISCOVERED SOMETHING
INTERESTING IN THE
PROCESS AND I DISCOVERED
AND THE ONES THAT GET
NOTICED, AND OF THE ONES
THAT ARE THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL OF THE ONES
THAT ARE NOT AND THEY
ARE NOT AVERAGE IN A LOT
OF THINGS, AND THE ONES
THAT ARE ON THE RADAR,
THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
ARE EXTRAORDINARY AND
WHAT A BIG THING AND
THEY DO ONE THING
REALLY, REALLY WELL, THE
THOUGHT OCCURRED AND I
SHOULD BEGIN TO APPLY
THAT TO THE PEOPLE
BECAUSE WE ARE ALL THE
SAME WAY AND YOU KNOW
GUYS THAT ARE JACK OF
ALL TRADES, AND A MASTER
OF NONE, THEY'RE PRETTY
GOOD AT THIS,
>> AND YOU SAY, THAT GUY
CAN DO ANYTHING?
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW.
>> AND THEY DON'T DO ANY
OF THEM WELL.
>> AND YOU DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE BIG THING IS
PRETTY
>> EXACTLY, AND I THINK,
AND BECAUSE WE LIVE IN
AND WHAT IS HIS AND LOOK
AT THIS WAY, AND
PRTICULARLY IF YOU HAVE
GOT A MESSAGE BURNING IN
YOUR HEART AND IF YOU
HAVE A DREAM AND IF YOU
WANT TO MAKE A MOVIE OR
WRITE A BOOK OR HAVE A
MINISTRY, OR YOU WANT TO
BEGIN A BUSINESS AND IF
YOU WANT TO BE NOTICED
BY PEOPLE, YOU CANNOT BE
AVERAGE AT A LOT OF
THINGS AND TO GET
NOTICED TODAY, YOU HAVE
GOT TO BE EXTRAORDINARY
AND ONE BIG THING.
AND THAT IS A BIG PART
OF THE DRIVE OF THE
BOOK, THINK OF THE
NUMBER OF CHRISTIANS WHO
ARE OUT THERE, AND MANY
OF THEM ARE WATCHING
THIS PROGRAM, AND THEY
FEEL LIKE GOD IS CALLING
THEM TO DO SOMETHING
SPECIAL AND THEY DON'T
KNOW HOW TO BE NOTICED
AND THEY SAY HOW TO I
GET MY MESSAGE OUT THERE
>> AND HOW DO YOU GET
AWAY FROM LIKE, AND WHEN
I SAW YOU THE FIRST
TIME.
AND THE THINGS YOU WERE
SAYING, IT COST ME TO BE
IGNITED BECAUSE I HAD
NEVER HEARD AND YOU KNOW
YOU HAVE THINGS IN YOUR
HEAD, AND YOU ARE UP
THERE SAYING THOSE
THINGS AND I WAS
THINKING THE THINGS THAT
I HAD IN MY HEAD SHOULD
NOT BE THERE.
AND BECAUSE OF WHAT I
DO.
AND THIS IS FOREIGN TO
WHAT I DO.
AND YOU WERE SAYING, HOW
TO GET OUTSIDE OF THE
BOX.
>> AND YES AND WE GET
CAUGHT UP IN THE BUBBLE
VERY OFTEN.
AND SOMETIMES IT IS IN
CHURCH, AND SOMETIMES IN
THE COMPANY, AND THE
FAMILY, AND WE NEED TO
GET OUT OF THE BUBBLE
PARTICULARLY THE
CHRISTIAN AND I THINK
THE CHRISTIANS, AND THEY
WANT TO CHRISTIAN MOVIES
AND THEY READ THE
CHRISTIAN BOOKS AND THEY
WATCH CHRISTIAN
TELEVISION NETWORK
>> AND THEY HAVE
CHRISTIAN SPEAK.
>> YES, AND ALL OF THOSE
THINGS ARE GOOD, HOWEVER
AND JESUS NEVER GOT
STUCK IN THE CHRISTIAN
BUBBLE HE WAS ALWAYS
ENGAGING PEOPLE AND HE
WAS ALWAYS OUT THERE
MEETING THE FISHERMAN
AND MEETING THE TAX
COLLECTORS AND GOING TO
THE PARTIES LIKE THE
WEDDINGS, AND SO, JESUS
WAS A MASTER OF GETTING
OUT OF THE BUBBLE AND
ENCOUNTERING THE CULTURE
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE
WILL DO.
>> AND THIS BOOK IS
PRESSING AND PUSHING YOU
INTO WHAT COULD YOU BE
THE BEST IN THE WORLD AT
DOING?
>> AND YES, I LIKE TO
SAY IF I PUT A GUN TO
YOUR HEAD, AND I SAID
THERE IS ONLY ONE THING,
YOU CAN DO FOR THE REST
OF YOUR LIFE, AND WHAT
WOULD THAT BE?
AND WHAT IS THAT THING
DEEP INSIDE OF YOU THAT
YOU'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT,
WELL, I DON'T KNOW AND I
WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT
BUT I CANNOT MAKE ENOUGH
MONEY.
>> AND WHEN I LOOKED AT
YOUR BOOK, AND MY DOOR
WAS CLOSED, AND I WAS
READING YOUR BOOK.
AND WHEN I SAW THIS, I
JUST PUT THE BOOK DOWN,
AND I WAS STARING AT THE
CEILING AND I SAID, AND
WHY WOULD THAT BE?
>> LAUGHTER
>> AND LET ME SAY THIS
AND THIS IS NOT
NECESSARILY A JOB AND
THIS IS NOT LIKE YOU ARE
DOING ONE BIG THING, AND
MAYBE TO BE A COACH, OR
TO BE A SECRETARY ARE TO
BE A TEACHER OR TO BE AN
INSURANCE SALESMAN, AND
YOU'RE ONE BIG THING IS
REALLY MORE OF AN
OVERARCHING THING IN
YOUR LIFE AND WHAT IS
THE PURPOSE THAT GOD HAS
PUT YOUR 20, WHICH?
AND THAT CAN BE
EXPRESSED IN A LOT OF
DIFFERENT WAYS, AND MY
PURPOSE IS TO HELP
CHRISTIANS ENGAGE THE
CULTURE MORE
EFFECTIVELY.
I JUST BELIEVE THE
STAKES ARE INCREDIBLY
HIGH, AND WE HAVE GOT A
LIFE-CHANGING STORY THAT
CAN TURN THIS WORLD
AROUND, AND YET WE ARE
NOT VERY GOOD AT GETTING
THAT MESSAGE HEARD.
>> AND HOW DO WE DO
THAT?
>> AND YOU HAVE WORKED
WITH JOEL OSTEEN?
AND WHEN I FIRST SAW
THAT COME ON, AND THAT
STADIUM FULL AND I
WATCHED IT, AND WHEN HE
WAS IN THE OTHER PLACE,
AND I EVEN
WATCHED HIS FATHER.
>> YEAH.
>> AND WHEN I WATCHED
THE STADIUM FULL AND I
WAS LOOKING AT THE VIDEO
AS I WAS WATCHING AND I
WAS GOING, AND WHO WOULD
HAVE THE ABILITY TO
LIGHT THAT STADIUM SO
THAT WHEN I LOOK, I AM
ACTUALLY SEEING HOW
LARGE AND HOW MANY
PEOPLE ARE IN THERE AND
BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WANT TO
SHOOT THE STAGE.
AND YOU GO, AND DO YOU
REALIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE
ARE THERE?
AND I WOULD SAY HOW MANY
PEOPLE ARE THERE?
AND THERE ARE LIKE AND
WHAT DOES THAT HOLD?
>> AND WELL, AND WRIGLEY
FIELD, AND WILL DODGER
STADIUM HE WAS THERE A
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
THERE WERE 65,000 PEOPLE
THERE.
>> AND WHAT DOES THE
CHURCH HOLD?
>> AND THE CHURCH IS
ABOUT 18,000 OR 19,000.
AND THEY HAVE THREE
SERVICES.
>> AND IF YOU SAW THE
STADIUM WOULD GO, AND HE
ONLY SHOT THE STAGE.
AND YOU GO, OH, THAT IS
A BIG CHURCH AND YES, IT
IS HUGE, AND IT IS LIKE
20,000 PEOPLE REALLY?
AND THEY HAVE FIGURED
OUT HOW TO LIGHT THE STAGE AND
THIS IS AND THIS IS WHAT
YOU SEE, RIGHT?
AND OUT OF YOUR EYE AND
WHEN YOU WALK INTO A
PLACE YOU SEE SOMETHING
DIFFERENT THEN I WOULD
SEE.
>> ABSOLUTELY, AND
ABSOLUTELY AND THAT IS
BECAUSE YOU HAVE GROWN
NOT BEING IN THE
MINISTRY AND YOU ARE A
PREACHER AND A PASTOR
AND A TEACHER, YOU ARE
THE KIND OF GUY THAT HAS
THAT MESSAGE TO SHARE
AND I'M THE KIND OF GUY
THAT LOOKS AT IT FROM
BEHIND THE CAMERA AND I
AM THINKING HOW CAN YOU
DO THAT MORE
EFFECTIVELY?
AND WHAT IF WE SHOT IT
THIS WAY?
AND WHAT IF WE HAD YOU
TO DO THIS, OR THAT, AND
MY GOAL IS TO GET YOUR
MESSAGE IN FRONT OF AS
MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
AND I MEAN THAT IS
ULTIMATELY BUT
MARKETING,, THIS HAS A
BAD NAME IN THE CHURCH,
BUT THE TRUTH IS, AND
MARKETING IS ABOUT
GETTING YOUR MESSAGE IN
FRONT OF AS MANY PEOPLE
AS POSSIBLE.
>> AND I REMEMBER YOU
SAID IN ONE OF YOUR
SEMINARS, YOU ARE GOING,
NOW FOLKS, AND WHY WOULD
I WAS PREACHING IS OKAY
TO SHOOT BEHIND HIM.
SO THAT YOU SEE WHAT HE
SEES, AND I THOUGHT, AND
I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT, AND
BEFORE I HEARD YOU SAY
THAT, AND I USED TO SIT
THERE AND GO, AND WE ARE
JUST SHOOTING THE GUY
WALKING ON THE PLATFORM.
>> AND SHOOTING YOUR
AUDIENCE AND IF YOU WANT
TO GO THERE, HERMAN,
>> AND THAT STUFF
FASCINATES ME.
>> AS SHOOTING THE
AUDIENCE IS SO IMPORTANT
TO THE GUY SITTING AT
HOME, IS LOOKING AT THAT
PASTOR AND IF HE DOES
NOT SEE THE AUDIENCE AND
HE DOES NOT REALIZE A
LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
LISTENING TO THIS GUY
AND MAYBE I SHOULD BE
LISTENING.
AND IF YOU DON'T SHOW
THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE
ENGAGED AND EXCITED AND
INTERESTED AND MAKING
NOTES, THAT GUY AT HOME
DOES NOT REALIZE AND IF
THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T THAT
INTO AND WITH THIS GUY
AND MAYBE HE HAS GOT A
MESSAGE THAT I SHOULD
HERE AND IN MANY WAYS
THE AUDIENCE SHOTS ARE
JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE
PREACHER SHOTS AND WHEN
YOU SEE A CHRISTIAN
PROGRAM.
AND THEY ARE VERY
IMPORTANT, AND THEY ARE
THE WINDOW FOR THE MAN
OR THE WOMAN AT HOME TO
REALLY SEE WHAT IS GOING
ON.
>> AND A MOMENT OF
REVELATION AND WHEN DID
THAT HAPPEN?
YOURS?
>> IN COLLEGE.
I HAD ROLLED IN COLLEGE
AND I WENT TO ORAL
ROBERTS UNIVERSITY, AS A
MUSIC MAJOR AND MY DAD
WAS A PREACHER AND OF
COURSE TO BE A
PREACHER'S KID YOU WERE
REQUIRED TO PLAY THE
PIANO.
>> DID YOU EVER WANT TO
BE A PREACHER?
>> NEVER A SHOT AT A
MOMENTS DESIRE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT
IS BECAUSE, AND I LOVE
THE PASTOR'S AND GREAT
PREACHING, I WAS JUST
NEVER INTERESTED, AND I
THINK, AND ABOUT AND THE
FLIPSIDE OF THAT, AND WE
LIVE IN THIS MEDIA
DRIVEN CULTURE TODAY,
AND I CAN PRODUCE ONE
TELEVISION PROGRAM THAT
WILL REACH MORE PEOPLE
THAT MY FATHER REACHED
DURING HIS ENTIRE
LIFETIME.
AND SO, THIS IS WHAT I
THINK THE MEDIA IS
ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR
REACHING THIS
GENERATION.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY
CRITICAL.
>> AND YOU HAVE DONE
COMMERCIALS.
>> I'VE DONE MANY.
>> AND DO THEY BUILD
COMMERCIALS BECAUSE THEY
KNOW THE AUDIENCE OUT
THERE ARE AS BOUND AS
STUPID AS A BAG NAILS.
>> LAUGHTER
>> HAVE YOU SEEN THE ONE
THAT PLAYS ALL OF THE
TIME?
AND THE GUY TALKS TO A
CAN WITH A STRING
ATTACHED TO IT.
>> THE VEGETABLE SOUP
COMMERCIAL?
>> AND YOU SEE IT, OKAY,
I'M NOT KIDDING YOU, AND
DO THEY
>> AND THOSE ARE ALWAYS
SO STUPID.
AND
>> IS THAT THE TARGET
AUDIENCE?
>> AND I THINK THE
IDEAS, YOU GOT 30
SECONDS TO GET
SOMEBODY'S ATTENTION,
AND IN 30 SECONDS YOU'VE
GOT A VERY SHORT WINDOW
AND SO YOU SOMETIMES DO
OUTRAGEOUS THINGS JUST A
PLANT A SEED, THE TRUTH
IS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
THAT COMMERCIAL RIGHT
NOW.
AND YOU MIGHT HATE IT.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT.
>> THAT IS RIGHT.
>> ON NATIONAL TV AND SO
IT WORKED.
AND YES THAT'S
INTERESTING, AND WE
TRIED TO FOCUS ON COMEDY
AND I THINK COMEDY IS A
POWERFUL WAY THAT
CHRISTIAN CAN USED TO
ENGAGE THE CULTURE.
>> AND DID YOU DO THE
SUPER BOWL?
>> AND WE DID A COUPLE
OF SUPER BOWL
COMMERCIALS.
AND THIS IS JUST ALWAYS
INTERESTING TO LOOK AT
HOW PEOPLE REACT TO THE
COMMERCIALS.
AND AT THE SUPER BOWL
THE COMMERCIALS ARE THE
BEST PART.
>> AND THIS IS BETTER
THAN THE GAME.
>> THIS IS LIKE THE
ACADEMY AWARDS FOR THE
COMMERCIALS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AND YOU HAVE GOT TO TALK
ABOUT THIS, THE BREAD
PLATE LADY?
>> YES,
>> LISTEN TO THIS, THIS
ACTUALLY MAKES ONE BIG
THING CENTERPIECE.
>> AND THIS TRANSIT
HOME, DOESN'T IT?
ME AND MY WIFE ARE
FILMING IN MOLDOVA IN
EASTERN EUROPE, AND WE
WERE DOING A DOCUMENTARY
ABOUT SEX TRAFFICKING
AND THIS IS A HORRIBLE.
AND THAT IS THE NUMBER
ONE INDUSTRY OVER THERE.
>> I'VE DONE PROGRAMS ON
THAT.
>> AND ON WAY BACK WE
STOPPED, AND LONDON AND
WE HAD A FEW DAYS, AND
WITH A SCHEDULE WE HAD,
AND WHENEVER WE WERE
THERE ON THE WEEKENDS,
WE ALWAYS WENT TO THE
PORTOBELLO.
AND THIS IS A
FANTASTICALLY MARKET,
AND THIS IS JUST
UNBELIEVABLE AND THIS IS
IN LONDON AND THERE WE
GO, AND WE WERE LOOKING
AT THE ANTIQUES AND THE
STUFF, AND WE FIND A
LADY IN HER LATE 70S,
AND EARLY 80S, AND SHE
HAS A LITTLE BITTY SHOP
AND ALL SHE SELLS IS
BREAD PLATES, AND THE
BRITISH CALL THEM BREAD
PLATES, AND THEY ARE LIKE
CUTTING BOARDS AND
THAT SORT OF THING,
THEY'RE VERY ORNATE, AND
THEY HAVE MATCHING
KNIVES, AND THAT WAS ALL
SHE HAD.
AND SHE HAD ABOUT 50 OF
THEM.
AND MY WIFE WAS
FASCINATED, AND MOST
EVERYBODY ELSE IS
SELLING HUNDREDS OF
THINGS AND SHE IS
SELLING THE BREAD
PLATES.
AND WHILE MY WIFE
KATHLEEN WAS LOOKING AT
THEM AND I STARTED A
CONVERSATION WITH THE
LADY, AND I CANNOT HELP
IT, AND SO, I SAID, AND
I SAID, AND WHY DO YOU
SELL JUST THE BREAD
PLATES?
AND SHE SAID AND ABOUT
MAYBE 40 YEARS AGO, AND
I STARTED, I NOTICED
EVERYBODY WAS SELLING
EVERYTHING AND THERE
WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
THINGS, AND I THOUGHT
HOW AM I GOING TO BE
NOTICED HERE?
AND SHE SAID I LOVE THE
BREAD PLATES, AND I
THOUGHT, AND MAYBE GIVE
THAT IS ALL I WILL
CONCENTRATE ON I WILL
STAND OUT.
AND IS SO FOR 40 YEARS,
SHE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN
KNOWN AS THE BREAD PLATE
LADY.
AT THE PORTOBELLO STREET
MARKET, EVERYBODY KNOWS
HER AND SHE IS THE BEST
IN THE WORLD AT WHAT SHE
DOES, AND SO SHE HAS
GAINED AN INTERNATIONAL
REPUTATION BECAUSE SHE
IS REALLY, GOOD.
AND ONE THING.
AND ONE BIG THING.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY
RIGHT.
OBT.
THAT IS RIGHT.
>> AND YOU PICKED UP ON
THAT.
AND YOU SEE, THAT WAS A
AND THAT WAS A MOMENT
THAT 1000 EOPLE WOULD
WALK PAST AND NEVER GET
IT.
>> AND WELL YEAH AND
THAT IS MY THING AND
THAT IS WHAT I DO.
>> AND HOW CAN YOU TAKE
THAT EXAMPLE INTO
HELPING A GUY DO
TELEVISION AND CHRISTIAN
TELEVISION.
>> I CAN TAKE THIS TO A
LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS
AND TELEVISION IS A
GREAT EXAMPLE, AND YOU
KNOW THE TRUTH IS AND IF
YOU ARE A PASTOR OR A
MINISTER OR A LEADER,
AND A WRITER OR A
FILMMAKER AND WHATEVER
YOU DO, YOU CAN AND THE
TRUTH IS, WE LIVE IN A
NICHE WORLD, AND WHEN
YOU AND I WERE LITTLE,
AND THEY WERE MAYBE FOR
A MAJOR NATIONAL
MAGAZINES, AND LIFE,
LOOK, AND 4 MAJOR
MAGAZINES, AND TODAY, I
BOUGHT AN ANTIQUE
MUSTANG AND AN OLD 67
MUSTANG ANY YEARS AGO,
AND A CONVERTIBLE, AND I
SOLD IT OF COURSE, TO
PUT MY DAUGHTERS THROUGH
COLLEGE, AND I CANNOT
DECIDE IF I'M A GREAT
DAD, OR AN IDIOT.
I CANNOT DECIDE.
>> AND WHAT IS IT WORTH
NOW?
>> AND WHEN I HAD THE
MUSTANG I DISCOVERED
THERE ARE 17 DIFFERENT
MAGAZINES JUST FOR
ANTIQUE MUSTANG OWNERS
AND THERE ARE THOUSANDS
OF NICHE MAGAZINES OUT
THERE AND THIS IS ABOUT
THE NICHE TODAY.
AND MARKETERS KNOW, THAT
IF YOU WANT TO BE
NOTICED AND IF YOU WANT
TO BE POPULAR AND IF YOU
WANT TO GET ON THE
RADAR, YOU CANNOT BE
TALKING BUT EVERYTHING
ANYMORE AND YOU HAVE TO
BE REALLY GOOD AND ONE
BIG THING.
AND MY BIG EXAMPLE IS
JACK HAYFORD, WHO HAS
BEEN MY PASTOR IN LOS
ANGELES AND MY PASTOR
FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS
AND JACK IS INCREDIBLE
AND I'VE HEARD HIM
PREACH MANY THOUSANDS OF
SERMONS, BUT IF YOU CUT
JACK HE WILL BLEED
WORSHIP, AND HE HAS
WRITTEN 100 WORSHIP
SONGS AND HE IS WITHIN
FIVE OR SIX SONGS.
>> AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT
IS MISSING ON HIS STAGE?
IS THE GOLD CHAIRS.
AND THE GOLD CURTAINS.
>> AND DO NOT GET ME
STARTED.
>> LAUGHTER
>> AND HE BRINGS THAT UP
IN THE BOOK.
AND THERE IS NOTHING
THERE, AND HE IS
TEACHING.
>> AND YOU KNOW, THE
PASTORS HAVE TO TEACH ON
A LOT OF THINGS, NO
QUESTION, AND THE ONE
THING I DO, IS LIKE A
FILTER THAT YOU TEACH
EVERYTHING THROUGH AND
FOR INSTANCE, AND WHAT
IS THE ONE THING THAT
YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU
WAKE UP IN THE MORNING
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT,
AND THIS IS THE LAST
THING YOU THINK ABOUT
WHEN YOU GO TO BED AT
NIGHT.
AND YOU ARE PASSIONATE
ABOUT IT, AND YOU LIVE
FOR IT, AND THE TRUTH
IS, EVERYTHING IN YOUR
LIFE AND IF YOU LOOK
THROUGH THAT FILTER AND
SUDDENLY PEOPLE START TO
NOTICE AND YOU BECOME
THE EXPERT AND THIS IS
WHEN THE NEWS MEDIA
WANTS TO TALK TO YOU AND
THIS IS WHEN THE PEOPLE
WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU
AND THIS IS WHEN THEY
WANT TO BUY YOUR BOOKS,
AND IT MAKES A HUGE
DIFFERENCE.
>> AND YOU TALK ABOUT
DISC PROFILE.
IS THAT, AN CAN THAT BE
TALKING?
>> AND THAT PROFILE, IS
A AND YOU CAN FIND ON
THE INTERNET, AND IF YOU
GOOGLE IT, AND THESE ARE
PERSONALITY TEST,
>> DOES THAT WORK?
>> AND I THINK SO AND I
WILL TELL YOU WHY, IT IS
NOT MYSTICAL AND WEIRD,
AND PERSONALITY TEST
REVEAL A LOT ABOUT HOW
YOU ARE WIRED, AND YOU
KNOW, I AM WIRED TO BE A
LITTLE ON THE ADD SIDE.
I HAVE GOT A VERY SHORT
ATTENTION SPAN.
>> LAUGHTER
>> AND MY SECRETARY AND
WHEN THE PEOPLE COME TO
MY OFFICE AND MY
ASSISTANT WILL WHISPER,
AND WHEN PHIL'S EYES
GLAZE OVER, THE
INTERVIEW IS DONE.
>> AND HE WAS DOING THAT
IN THE GREEN ROOM.
>> AND I FELT THAT FOR
YEARS.
AND I FELT GUILTY ABOUT
IT AND I STRUGGLED, BUT
WHEN I TOOK THE PROFILE
AND I REALIZED THIS IS
JUST THE WAY, GOD HAS
MADE ME AND I'M WIRED,
AND I'M SCATTERED, AND I
EMBRACE IT.
THIS CHANGED EVERYTHING
FOR ME AND I SUDDENLY
STARTED WRITING ABOUT
IT, AND SPEAKING ABOUT
IT.
AND THAT CHANGED
EVERYTHING.
AND PERSONALITY
PROFILES, AND I THINK
THEY ARE GREAT WAYS TO
FIGURE OUT AND ALL OF US
ARE WIRED IN DIFFERENT
WAYS.
AND SOME ARE FOCUSED
PEOPLE, AND SOME ARE
SCATTERED, AND SOME LIKE
NUMBERS AND DETAILED,
AND OTHERS ARE VERY
CREATIVE, AND ONCE WE
FIGURE IT OUT, AND WE
STOP FIGHTING AND WE
ALLOW GOD TO USE IS IN A
GREATER WAY.
>> AND YOU GOT A PHD IN
THEOLOGY?
AND AT ONE POINT IN TIME
MAYBE YOU THOUGHT YOU TO
BE A PASTOR?
>> ODDLY ENOUGH, NO, AND
DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
AND I THOUGHT, THE
REASON I GOT MY PHD IN
THEOLOGY IS BECAUSE I
LOVE GOING TO CLASS, I
LOVE IT, AND I'M CRAZY.
>> AND HE IS WHACKED.
>> AND I LOVE TO LEARN,
AND YOU KNOW, LET ME SAY
THIS AND GOING BACK AND
WE MET AT THE WORKSHOP
AT THE NATIONAL
RELIGIOUS BROADCASTERS
CONVENTION AND I
NORMALLY TEACH ABOUT 20
OR 30 SOMETHING GUYS,
THAT AGE GROUP, AND I
WAS SITTING THERE
LOOKING OUT, AND YOU AND
SHARRON ARE ON THE FRONT
ROW.
AND YOU ARE MADLY MAKING
NOTES AND I KNEW WHO YOU
WERE BY REPUTATION AND I
KNEW YOU HAD BEEN
INVOLVED IN A CHRISTIAN
TV FOR A LONG TIME, AND
YOU HAD BEEN REALLY
INSTRUMENTAL IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF CHRISTIAN
TELEVISION.
AND I THOUGHT, AND WHY
IN THE WORLD IS HE
LISTENING TO ME?
AND AFTERWARD YOU CAME
UP AND WE BEGAN TO TALK,
AND I WAS SO BLOWN AWAY
BY THE FACT AND EVEN
AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS
OF CHRISTIAN TV AND ALL
OF YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOU
ARE STILL WANTING TO
LEARN MORE.
AND YOU STILL WANT TO
GROW AND THAT BLEW ME
AWAY AND I HOPE ON MY
DEATHBED I HAVE GOT A
STACK OF BOOKS ON THE
NIGHT TABLE.
BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A
PLACE WHERE WE CAN GROW
AND LEARN AND THIS HAD A
HUGE IMPACT ON ME.
AND I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT
YOU AND I HAVE TALKED
ABOUT YOU AND I THINK IT
IS SO IMPORTANT THAT
PEOPLE HAVE THAT KIND OF
ATTITUDE.
AND WE NEVER STOP
LEARNING.
>> AND WHEN CERTAIN
INDIVIDUALS BEGIN TO
TALK, AND I KNOW YOU
HAVE BEEN THERE, AND YOU
ARE SITTING IN AN
AUDIENCE AND YOU GO,
OKAY I CAME HERE AND I
DO NOT KNOW WHY I CAME
HERE, AND AS SOON AS THE
PERSON STARTED TALKING
TO GO OKAY, I GET IT AND
I KNOW WHY I AM HERE.
>> AND IN CONTRAST TO
THE PEOPLE I ALWAYS SAY,
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU
STOP TALKING BEFORE THE
AUDIENCE STOPS
LISTENING.
>> LAUGHTER
>> AND I SAW THAT ONE
BIG THING, AND WHEN YOU
AND LIKE YOU SAY, AND
YOU THINK ABOUT IT ALL
OF THE TIME AND THIS IS
ONE THING THAT BRINGS
YOU JOY.
>> THIS IS SO TRUE AND I
WILL TELL YOU THIS, AND
WHEN YOU FIGURE IT OUT,
YOU MOVE FROM A JOB TO A
DREAM AND YOU STOP GOING
TO WORK EVERYDAY AND YOU
STOP LABORING BECAUSE
SUDDENLY IT IS A PASSION
AND YOU EXPERIENCE
EXCITEMENT, AND IT GIVES
YOU A REASON TO LIVE.
AND
>> IT IS HARD TO GET
THERE.
AND THIS IS THE DREAM
THAT YOU HAVE AND I
MEAN, THIS IS HARD TO
GET THERE.
>> IN THE BOOK AND THAT
TALK ABOUT AND YOU KNOW
BE STRATEGIC AND DON'T
BE STUPID.
AND TOO MANY PEOPLE
FIGURE OUT THAT ONE BIG
THING AND THEY WILL READ
A BOOK LIKE MINE, AND
THEY WILL FIGURE OUT AND
THEY KNOW WHAT GOD WANTS
THEM TO DO AND IT WILL
GO TO THEIR BOSS AND
SAY, I WILL QUIT, AND
I'VE DISCOVERED MY ONE
BIG THING.
AND THAT IS INCREDIBLY,
AND THAT IS INCREDIBLY
STUPID.
AND THE TRUTH IS, I
WROTE MY FIRST TWO BOOKS
COMING IN AT 6 AM IN THE
MORNING DURING MY
REGULAR JOB SO I COULD
HAVE 200 UNINTERRUPTED
HOURS TO WRITE EVERY
MORNING.
AND I WROTE TWO BOOKS
BEFORE I EVER LEFT MY
JOB.
AND SO I THINK THERE IS
A WAY TO TRANSITION AND
I'VE GOT A SECTION IN
THE BOOK AND I TALK
ABOUT HOW TO TRANSITION
FROM A JOB YOU HAVE
TODAY TO THE PASSION YOU
FEEL LIKE GOD WANTS YOU
TO DO.
AND GETTING FROM WHERE
YOU ARE TO WHERE YOU
WANT TO BE, AND YOU HAVE
TO BE SMART.
>> AND YOU HAVE A
CHAPTER AND IT IS NEVER
TOO LATE AND I LOVE THAT
ONE, LIKE MY AGE.
>> AND ONE OF THESE DAYS
THEY WILL FIGURE IT OUT.
>> AND YOU HAVE A
CHAPTER, THIS IS NOT
ABOUT YOU.
>> YOU KNOW, AND A LOT
OF PEOPLE SAY, AND
FINDING YOUR ONE BIG
THING AND THIS IS NOT AN
EGOTISTICAL THING, AND
IS NOT, AND WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT YOU
GETTING PLUGGED INTO
GOD'S PLAN FOR YOUR LIFE
AND WHAT COULD BE MORE
IMPORTANT IN THAT?
>> OKAY, HE IS IN A
HOTEL ROOM, AND YOU ARE
LOOKING FOR A CHRISTIAN
PROGRAM AND THIS IS WHAT
I DO, I WILL GO AND LOOK
AND I WILL BEGIN TO
BROWSE, AND WHO IS HERE?
AND WITH YOUR
BACKGROUND, YOU MUST
TUNE INTO SOME OF THEM
AND GO, AND WHAT IN THE
WORLD?
AND WHAT IS THIS GUY
DOING?
>> WILL NOW, DON'T BE
TOO HARSH.
>> AND YOU HAVE GOT TO
SIT DOWN ON THE BED AND
GO, AND HONEY, I WILL BE
RIGHT THERE AND I'VE GOT
TO SEE THIS.
>> AND I JOKE I WANT TO
START A MUSEUM OF BAD
CHRISTIAN TELEVISION
PROGRAM BUT I CANNOT
FIND A BUILDING BIG
ENOUGH.
>> LAUGHTER
>> AND BEFORE WE GET TOO
UGLY, AND YOU KNOW, I
TEMPERED WITH THAT, THAT
THESE ARE VERY SINCERE
PEOPLE.
AND THEY GENUINELY ARE
TRYING TO MAKE AN IMPACT
AND THE PROBLEM IS THEY
DON'T REALIZE THE POWER
OF PERCEPTION.
AND HOW YOU ARE
PERCEIVED IS JUST AS
IMPORTANT AS WHAT YOUR
MESSAGE IS.
AND SO, UNTIL THE
PASTOR'S ALL OF THE
TIME, THERE ARE PEOPLE
THAT ARE NOT LISTING TO
YOUR MESSAGE BECAUSE OF
THE UGLY CARPET YOU HAVE
IN THE CHURCH.
AND ALL OF THE PLANTS
YOU HAVE ON THE STAGE,
AND YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE
CANNOT GET PAST IT.
AND THAT PERCEPTION IS
SO IMPORTANT AND IF YOU
CAN WORK TO HELP CHANGE
THEIR PERCEPTION SO THEY
WILL BE OPENED TO YOUR
MESSAGE AND WHAT A
WONDERFUL THING THAT IS.
AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT
WATERING DOWN YOUR
MESSAGE OR COMPROMISING,
THIS IS JUST HELPING THE
AUDIENCE TO REALLY
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR
MESSAGE IS ALL ABOUT AND
THAT AND JUST WORKS IN
THE PULPIT, AND THAT
WORKS IN THE BUSINESS
WORLD, AND HELPING YOUR
BOSS UNDERSTAND WHO YOU
ARE AND WHAT YOU ARE
ABOUT.
AND HELPING YOUR FRIENDS
TO UNDERSTAND, AND IF SO
PERCEPTION MATTERS.
>> I HAVE GOT A CONCEPT
FOR A WOMAN, AND SHE IS
GOING TO BE A BOMB THE
TEACHER AND SHE IS GOING
TO JUST WALK AND BACK
AND FORTH ON THE
PLATFORM, AND JUST TALK
ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPEN
IN HER LIFE, AND THEN
BRING IT UP, AND I CAN
SEE JUST THE AUDIENCE
PACKED GOD, AND WATCHING
THIS WOMAN WALKING BACK
AND FORTH ON THE
PLATFORM.
AND TELLING DIFFERENT
STORIES RELATING TO MANY
OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
AUDIENCE.
>> AND IT SOUNDS LIKE
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
JOYCE MEYERS?
>> THAT IS IT.
>> AND YOU HELP HER TO?
>> I HAVE.
AND I LOVE HER, AND I
WORKED WITH HER AND SHE
IS FANTASTIC, AND JOYCE
CAN TELL A LIFE-CHANGING
STORY BASED UPON HOW GOD
TOLD HER TO TAKE HER
SHOPPING CART BACK UP TO
THE RACK IN THE PARKING
LOT.
AND YOU KNOW SHE CAN SEE
THINGS.
>> AND SHE CAN SELL THAT
STORY.
>> IS UNBELIEVABLE.
>> AND THE THING ABOUT
JOYCE, AND WHAT YOU SEE
ON TELEVISION, IS WHAT
YOU SEE IN REAL LIFE,
AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT
TO EAT WITH HER, I HAD
BEEN TO HER HOME, AND
SHE IS THE EXACT SAME
PERSON.
AND SO JOYCE IS
ABSOLUTELY REAL, AND I
LOVE THAT.
AND I LOVE THAT PART.
>> AND YOU HAVE GOT A
CHAPTER ON DON'T BURN
YOUR BRIDGES.
AND BOY, AND IF YOU JUST
GET THE BOOK FOR THIS
CHAPTER.
THAT WILL SAVE YOU
GRIEF, YOU WILL NOT
BELIEVE.
>> AND WILL YOU KNOW,
THE PEOPLE YOU MEET ON
THE WAY UP ARE THE SAME
PEOPLE THAT YOU WILL
MEET ON THE WAY DOWN.
AND I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT
AND I LEARNED, AND I
WORK FOR ORAL ROBERTS
MANY YEARS AGO WHEN HE
WAS AT HIS PEAK, AND
PARTICULARLY DURING THE
LATE 70S AND THE 1980S.
>> AND HE WAS BRINGING
IN BILLIONS.
>> AND HE WAS DOING
PRIMETIME TELEVISION,
AND ALL, AND I LOVED
ORAL WAS A GREAT MAN,
BUT I LEARNED EARLY ON,
WHEN I WAS YOUNG, I
COULD NOT ALWAYS GET TO
HIM, BUT I COULD GET TO
HIS SECRETARY.
AND I BECAME HER BEST
FRIEND, AND I SENT HER
FLOWERS ON HER BIRTHDAY,
AND I WOULD STOP BY HER
OFFICE JUST TO SEE HOW
SHE WAS DOING.
FROM TIME TO TIME.
>> YOU ARE GOOD.
>> LET ME TELL YOU, AND
SUDDENLY, RUTH COULD
OPEN THE DOORS FOR ME
AND I FOUND OUT THE
ASSISTANT CAN OPEN THE
DOORS THAT THE PRESIDENT
CANNOT OPEN.
AND SO, AND RUTH WAS
REMARKABLE AND I LEARNED
EARLY ON THE VALUE OF
TREATING EVERYBODY WELL.
BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW
THE SECURITY GUARD.
AND THE RECEPTIONIST.
AND I'VE BEEN TO SO MANY
MEETINGS AND WHERE THE
CHRISTIAN LEADERS WOULD
COME IN, AND THEY WOULD
BE ARROGANT WITH THE
RECEPTIONIST, AND JUST
RUDE TO THE SECURITY
GUY.
LET ME TELL YOU, THEY
CAN OPEN DOORS FOR YOU
IN SITUATIONS AND SO,
AND I THINK, NEVER BURN
A BRIDGE AND I'VE MADE
MISTAKES IN THE AREA
LIKE EVERYBODY, AND WE
ALWAYS DO IT, AND YES WE
DO, AND I REGRETTED, AND
SOME OF MY GREATEST
REGRETS OUR FRIENDSHIPS
AND RELATIONSHIPS AND I
BURNED THE BRIDGE AND I
SHOULD NOT HAVE AND I
HAVE LEARNED WHAT A
TERRIBLE THING THAT IS
AND SO, I DO EVERYTHING
I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERY RELATIONSHIP ENDS
GRACEFULLY.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
THERE ARE TIMES TO END A
RELATIONSHIP.
AND SOMETIMES
RELATIONSHIPS ARE
HOLDING YOU BACK.
THEY ARE NOT HELPING
YOU, THEY ARE
FRUSTRATING TO YOU, AND
IT IS OKAY TO INTO THOSE
RELATIONSHIPS.
BUT YOU CAN DO IT IN A
GRACIOUS WAY.
>> SOMEBODY NEEDS TO
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
CHRIST, THAT IS YOUR
CAMERA RIGHT THERE.
AND YOU HAVE ABOUT 60
SECONDS.
>> LET ME TELL YOU.
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE
RELATIONSHIP.
TO KNOW JESUS CHRIST
AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU
RECEIVE CHRIST YOU
WILL KNOW, THIS IS THE
ULTIMATE RELATIONSHIP
AND I THINK, AND NO
MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AND
THE MATTER WHATEVER YOUR
CIRCUMSTANCES MAY BE,
AND WHATEVER SITUATION
YOU ARE IN FINANCIALLY,
THERE IS NO QUESTION
THAT OPENING UP YOUR
HEART TO THE GOD OF THE
UNIVERSE WILL CHANGE
EVERYTHING FOR YOU.
AND YOU KNOW, CAN WE
JUST PRAY?
TO DO THAT?
AND I THINK WE SHOULD
AND FATHER I JUST PRAY
THAT WHOEVER IS WATCHING
THIS PROGRAM THAN
WHOEVER IS STRUGGLING
RIGHT NOW, AND WHOEVER
IS QUESTIONING IN THEIR
LIVES AND I PRAY, IN THE
NAME OF JESUS THAT YOU
WOULD OPEN UP YOUR LIFE
TO CHRIST, THAT YOU SAY
YES TO GOD, AND YOU
WOULD ASK HIM TO FORGIVE
YOU OF YOUR MISTAKES,
AND THE SENDS YOU HAVE
HAD IN YOUR PAST, AND
THAT WOULD CHANGE
EVERYTHING FOR YOU AND
IF YOU CAN DO THAT, AND
I THINK YOUR FUTURE WILL
MAKE A DRAMATIC RIGHT
TURN.
>> YOU WILL ALWAYS
REMEMBER THIS DATE IF
YOU PRAYED WITH PHIL
COOK.
OKAY?
AND YOU WILL SEE HIS
NAME OTHER PLACES IN THE
COUNTRY AND THIS IS
IMPORTANT AND NOT THE
PERSON THAT BROUGHT YOU
TO CHRIST, BUT THE
CHRIST THAT YOU HAVE
RECEIVED AND HE WILL
CHANGE YOUR LIFE.
AND I RECEIVED CHRIST
PHIL, AND A CHRISTIAN
COLLEGE?
>> FANCY THAT.
>> IN A CHRISTIAN
COLLEGE AND I WENT DOWN
THE AISLE AND I WAS THE
ONLY ONE.
AND IT WAS A VESPERS
SERVICE, THEY USED TO
CALL IT.
AND I'M WITH BOARD, AND
IT WAS TW WILSON AND
BILLY GRAHAM'S
RIGHT-HAND MAN, FOR ALL
OF THOSE YEARS, AND YOU
KNOW AT MY AGE, HOW MANY
YEARS AGO THAT WOULD BE.
BUT THAT CHANGE MY LIFE.
AND IF YOU TRUST CHRIST
AS YOUR SAVIOR, HE WILL
CHANGE YOUR LIFE AND
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ONE
BIG THING, THAT CAN BE
YOUR ONE BIG THING.
FOR YOUR SAKE AND GOD
BLESS YOU.
AND GOODBYE.
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