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>> GOOD EVENING AND THANKS FOR
>> GOOD EVENING AND THANKS FOR JOINING US, I'M THE EDITORIAL
>>JOINING US, I'M THE EDITORIAL
JOINING US, I'M THE EDITORIAL PAGE EDITOR FOR THE ARIZONA
PAGE EDITOR FOR THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR.
DAILY STAR. TONIGHT, WE WILL FIND OUT ABOUT
TONIGHT, WE WILL FIND OUT ABOUT THE EMPLOYMENT TRENDS IN
THE EMPLOYMENT TRENDS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA.
SOUTHERN ARIZONA. WE WILL ASK ABOUT AN EDUCATION
WE WILL ASK ABOUT AN EDUCATION PROGRAM FOCUSING ON LEADERSHIP
PROGRAM FOCUSING ON LEADERSHIP IN THE NATIVE NATIONS AND HEAR
IN THE NATIVE NATIONS AND HEAR FROM TWO PEOPLE WHO WORK IN
FROM TWO PEOPLE WHO WORK IN TECHNICAL EDUCATION.
TECHNICAL EDUCATION. BUT FIRST, A LOOK AT TODAY'S TOP
BUT FIRST, A LOOK AT TODAY'S TOP STORIES.
STORIES. >> PROPERTY TAX ARE ABOUT TO GO
>> PROPERTY TAX ARE ABOUT TO GO UP.
UP. THE BOARD OF COUNTY SUPERVISORS
THE BOARD OF COUNTY SUPERVISORS VOTED TO INCREASE THE PROPERTY
VOTED TO INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BY $.28.
TAX RATE BY $.28. PROPERTY OWNERS WILL PAY $5.13
PROPERTY OWNERS WILL PAY $5.13 ON EVERY $10,000 OF PROPERTY.
ON EVERY $10,000 OF PROPERTY. OTHER ENTITIES LIKE SCHOOL
OTHER ENTITIES LIKE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ASSESS PROPERTY TAX
DISTRICTS ASSESS PROPERTY TAX THAT ADDS TO WHAT THE COUNTY
THAT ADDS TO WHAT THE COUNTY CHARGES.
CHARGES. THEY ANTICIPATE THAT THE TAX
THEY ANTICIPATE THAT THE TAX BILLS WILL BE SENT OUT DURING
BILLS WILL BE SENT OUT DURING THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, THE
THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, THE FIRST HALF OF THE TAX PAYMENTS
FIRST HALF OF THE TAX PAYMENTS ARE DUE OCTOBER 1st.
ARE DUE OCTOBER 1st. SOME PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
SOME PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TUCSON METRO AREA APPEAR TO
THE TUCSON METRO AREA APPEAR TO BE UNHAPPY WITH THE MEMBERS OF
BE UNHAPPY WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE SUNNY SIDE SCHOOL BOARD
THE SUNNY SIDE SCHOOL BOARD DISTRICT.
DISTRICT. 4 OF THE 5 UNIFIED BOARD MEMBERS
4 OF THE 5 UNIFIED BOARD MEMBERS ARE FACING THE PROSPECT OF AN
ARE FACING THE PROSPECT OF AN ELECTION RECALL.
ELECTION RECALL. RECALL EFFORTS BEGAN IN JULY
RECALL EFFORTS BEGAN IN JULY AGAINST BOARD MEMBERS, AND LAST
AGAINST BOARD MEMBERS, AND LAST WEEK'S RECALLS WERE STARTED
WEEK'S RECALLS WERE STARTED AGAINST BOARD MEMBERS, DANIEL
AGAINST BOARD MEMBERS, DANIEL HERNANDEZ AND BUCK CROUCH.
HERNANDEZ AND BUCK CROUCH. THE PROCESS CAN TAKE A YEAR AND
THE PROCESS CAN TAKE A YEAR AND COST THE DISTRICT PLENTY OF
COST THE DISTRICT PLENTY OF MONEY.
MONEY. EDUCATION OFFICIALS COMPARE THE
EDUCATION OFFICIALS COMPARE THE RECALL TO THE COST OF AN UP
RECALL TO THE COST OF AN UP COMING ELECTION.
COMING ELECTION. THE CAMPAIGN HAS ABOUT FOUR
THE CAMPAIGN HAS ABOUT FOUR MONTHS TO FILE 13 HUNDRED VALID
MONTHS TO FILE 13 HUNDRED VALID SIGNATURES TO LAUNCH THE RECALL
SIGNATURES TO LAUNCH THE RECALL OFFICIALLY.
OFFICIALLY. THE SUNNY SIDE SCHOOL BOARD
THE SUNNY SIDE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND THAT MEANS MID
MEMBERS AND THAT MEANS MID NOVEMBER DEADLINE AND AN
NOVEMBER DEADLINE AND AN ELECTION WOULD BE HELD IN MAY OF
ELECTION WOULD BE HELD IN MAY OF 2014.
2014. THE TWO OTHER RECALL EFFORTS
THE TWO OTHER RECALL EFFORTS AGAINST HERNANDEZ AND CROUCH
AGAINST HERNANDEZ AND CROUCH HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER TO FILE
HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER TO FILE SIGNATURES TO FILE TO FORCE A
SIGNATURES TO FILE TO FORCE A SPACE ON THE BALLOT FOR NEXT
SPACE ON THE BALLOT FOR NEXT FALL.
FALL. >>> POET LAUREATE WAS CREDITED
>>> POET LAUREATE WAS CREDITED BY AL MELVIN AND THAT IS A LOOK
BY AL MELVIN AND THAT IS A LOOK AT TONIGHT'S HEADLINES.
AT TONIGHT'S HEADLINES. >> TONIGHT, WE WILL VISIT THE
>> TONIGHT, WE WILL VISIT THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR NEWSROOM.
ARIZONA DAILY STAR NEWSROOM. THE NEWS PAPER PUTS OUT ANNUAL
THE NEWS PAPER PUTS OUT ANNUAL LISTING OF THE TOP EMPLOYERS IN
LISTING OF THE TOP EMPLOYERS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA, WE ASKED DAVID
SOUTHERN ARIZONA, WE ASKED DAVID WICKNER TO BREAK DOWN THE 2013
WICKNER TO BREAK DOWN THE 2013 FINDINGS.
FINDINGS. >> THE BIG OVERALL FINDING WAS
>> THE BIG OVERALL FINDING WAS THAT THE MAJOR EMPLOYEERS IN OUR
THAT THE MAJOR EMPLOYEERS IN OUR REGION INCREASED EMPLOYMENT
REGION INCREASED EMPLOYMENT BY .7%.
BY .7%. THERE WAS GAINS IN AEROSPACE AND
THERE WAS GAINS IN AEROSPACE AND CONSTRUCTION, THAT WAS OFFSET BY
CONSTRUCTION, THAT WAS OFFSET BY DECLINES IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS,
DECLINES IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS, DEFENSE, AND NONPROFITS.
DEFENSE, AND NONPROFITS. >> SO, NOT HUGE GAINS OR
>> SO, NOT HUGE GAINS OR DECLINES COMPARED TO LAST YEAR,
DECLINES COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, THAT INDICATIVE OF HOW THE
THAT INDICATIVE OF HOW THE ECONOMY IS NOT GROWING TOO FAST
ECONOMY IS NOT GROWING TOO FAST RIGHT NOW?
RIGHT NOW? >> YES, IT'S REFLECTING THE
>> YES, IT'S REFLECTING THE STATE AND NATIONAL TRENDS, SLOW
STATE AND NATIONAL TRENDS, SLOW GROWTH AND FOR THE 2012 ARIZONA
GROWTH AND FOR THE 2012 ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION IN
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION IN FACT HAD PROJECTED STATEWIDE.
FACT HAD PROJECTED STATEWIDE. THE COUNTY -- WHEN YOU LOOK
THE COUNTY -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT .7%.
AT .7%. IT'S HARD, THE EMPLOYERS ARE
IT'S HARD, THE EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO CAPTURE, IT'S IN LINE.
GOING TO CAPTURE, IT'S IN LINE. >> CAN YOU TALK A BIT ABOUT
>> CAN YOU TALK A BIT ABOUT SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES SUCH AS HIGH
SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES SUCH AS HIGH TECH OR THE AEROSPACE AND
TECH OR THE AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE INDUSTRIES THAT WE HAVE
DEFENSE INDUSTRIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TUCSON?
HERE IN TUCSON? >> SURE, AEROSPACE COMPANIES
>> SURE, AEROSPACE COMPANIES HAVE INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.
HAVE INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. SOME COMPANIES OPENED UP NEW
SOME COMPANIES OPENED UP NEW LINES FOR MAINTENANCE, AND EE
LINES FOR MAINTENANCE, AND EE AEROSPACE, MAKE LUXURY INTERIORS
AEROSPACE, MAKE LUXURY INTERIORS AND OTHERS SUPPLY PARTS FOR
AND OTHERS SUPPLY PARTS FOR AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE.
AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE. AND OVERALL THAT WENT UP 10%.
AND OVERALL THAT WENT UP 10%. >> WHAT TIMEFRAME DO YOU LOOK
>> WHAT TIMEFRAME DO YOU LOOK FOR EACH YEAR?
FOR EACH YEAR? >> WE LOOK FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR
>> WE LOOK FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR AND SO WE ASK THE COMPANIES AND
AND SO WE ASK THE COMPANIES AND STARTING IN THE LATE JANUARY,
STARTING IN THE LATE JANUARY, ASK THEM TO LOOK BACK, AND GIVE
ASK THEM TO LOOK BACK, AND GIVE US A SNAP SHOT.
US A SNAP SHOT. -- FULL TIME EQUIVALENT
-- FULL TIME EQUIVALENT EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT EVENS OUT
EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT EVENS OUT THE PART-TIME NUMBERS.
THE PART-TIME NUMBERS. WE GET A GOOD APPLES AND APPLES
WE GET A GOOD APPLES AND APPLES COMPARISON.
COMPARISON. >> THE SEQUESTER IMPACT WOULD
>> THE SEQUESTER IMPACT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT
NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT EVEN THOUGH IT CAME OUT AFTER
EVEN THOUGH IT CAME OUT AFTER THAT STARTED?
THAT STARTED? >> CORRECT, WE HAVE SEEN THAT
>> CORRECT, WE HAVE SEEN THAT UNFOLDING AND I THINK WE HAVE
UNFOLDING AND I THINK WE HAVE SEEN -- AND THE ECONOMISTS HAVE
SEEN -- AND THE ECONOMISTS HAVE TALKED ABOUT -- HOW IT'S LED TO
TALKED ABOUT -- HOW IT'S LED TO MORE CAUTIOUS HIRING, FOR
MORE CAUTIOUS HIRING, FOR EXAMPLE, SO WE MAY BE SEEING THE
EXAMPLE, SO WE MAY BE SEEING THE EFFECTS IN THAT WITH MORE FLAT
EFFECTS IN THAT WITH MORE FLAT HIRING.
HIRING. SOME OF THAT SHOULD UNFOLD.
SOME OF THAT SHOULD UNFOLD. WE DID HAVE SEVERAL DEFENSE
WE DID HAVE SEVERAL DEFENSE COMPANIES IN THE AREAS THAT DID
COMPANIES IN THE AREAS THAT DID DECLINE.
DECLINE. THE BIGGEST PRIVATE EMPLOYER WAS
THE BIGGEST PRIVATE EMPLOYER WAS FLAT.
FLAT. THEY LOST A COUPLE HUNDRED TO
THEY LOST A COUPLE HUNDRED TO ATTRITION AND THEY HAVE STRONG
ATTRITION AND THEY HAVE STRONG PROGRAMS, MISSILE DEFENSE FOR
PROGRAMS, MISSILE DEFENSE FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE
EXAMPLE, THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE KEPT BY THAT IN BETTER STEAD
KEPT BY THAT IN BETTER STEAD THAN THEIR COUNTERPARTS.
THAN THEIR COUNTERPARTS. >> LAST YEAR, YOU FOCUSED ON
>> LAST YEAR, YOU FOCUSED ON PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYMENT IN THE
PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYMENT IN THE AREA, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYMENT.
AREA, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYMENT. DID YOU FIND ANY CHANGES FROM
DID YOU FIND ANY CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR IN THIS
LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR IN THIS SECTOR?
SECTOR? >> WE DID NOT MAKE BIG
>> WE DID NOT MAKE BIG PREDICTIONS REGARDING
PREDICTIONS REGARDING EMPLOYMENT.
EMPLOYMENT. WE WERE EXPECTED TO DECLINE AND
WE WERE EXPECTED TO DECLINE AND THAT HAS HAPPENED.
THAT HAS HAPPENED. THE OVERALL GOVERNMENT FELL
THE OVERALL GOVERNMENT FELL SLIGHTLY.
SLIGHTLY. EMPLOYMENT IN OUR REGION GEL 6%
EMPLOYMENT IN OUR REGION GEL 6% AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS CONTINUED
AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS CONTINUED TO LOSE JOBS AND ALSO IN OUR
TO LOSE JOBS AND ALSO IN OUR REGION, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF
REGION, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF PEOPLE FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES
PEOPLE FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR
LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE WHICH SAW SOME
AGRICULTURE WHICH SAW SOME LOSSES IN THE PAST YEAR.
LOSSES IN THE PAST YEAR. >> ANYTHING QUIRKY, ANYTHING
>> ANYTHING QUIRKY, ANYTHING THAT DREW YOUR ATTENTION AS YOU
THAT DREW YOUR ATTENTION AS YOU WENT THROUGH THE INFORMATION?
WENT THROUGH THE INFORMATION? >> WE FOCUSED ON WORKFORCE
>> WE FOCUSED ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THIS YEAR, AND WE
DEVELOPMENT THIS YEAR, AND WE WERE SURPRISED, IT'S ALWAYS THE
WERE SURPRISED, IT'S ALWAYS THE CASE, WHEN THERE'S A DOWN
CASE, WHEN THERE'S A DOWN ECONOMY, PEOPLE ARE HIRING FOR
ECONOMY, PEOPLE ARE HIRING FOR PEOPLE THEY NEED.
PEOPLE THEY NEED. AND THAT MEANS SPECIFIC SKILLS,
AND THAT MEANS SPECIFIC SKILLS, NEW SKILLS, EXPECTED SKILLS,
NEW SKILLS, EXPECTED SKILLS, THEY EXPECT TO NEED TO FILL.
THEY EXPECT TO NEED TO FILL. AND WE DID FIND A LOT OF THAT
AND WE DID FIND A LOT OF THAT ACTUALLY, AND HAD EFFORTS TO
ACTUALLY, AND HAD EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THAT, AND PARTICULARLY
ADDRESS THAT, AND PARTICULARLY WITH MEASURING, BUT THE OTHER
WITH MEASURING, BUT THE OTHER THING WE FOUND, THERE'S A
THING WE FOUND, THERE'S A CONNECT BETWEEN KIND OF GROWING
CONNECT BETWEEN KIND OF GROWING THESE WORKERS RIGHT OUT OF HIGH
THESE WORKERS RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND INTO THE COMMUNITY
SCHOOL AND INTO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND EVEN TO THE POINT OF
COLLEGE AND EVEN TO THE POINT OF GIVING THEM BASIC JOB SKILLS AND
GIVING THEM BASIC JOB SKILLS AND ONE COMMENT WAS JUST GETTING
ONE COMMENT WAS JUST GETTING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THEY NEED
PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THEY NEED TO SHOW UP TO WORK ON TIME IS
TO SHOW UP TO WORK ON TIME IS CHALLENGE AT SOME POINT.
CHALLENGE AT SOME POINT. SO, THOSE TYPE OF SKILLS ARE
SO, THOSE TYPE OF SKILLS ARE GENERAL SKILLS THAT EVERYONE
GENERAL SKILLS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE, AND THERE'S A
SHOULD HAVE, AND THERE'S A CONCERN I THINK, SOMETIMES WE
CONCERN I THINK, SOMETIMES WE ARE NOT ALWAYS GETTING THE
ARE NOT ALWAYS GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE KIDS ON THAT.
MESSAGE OUT TO THE KIDS ON THAT. >> UNEMPLOYMENT HAS BEEN AT
>> UNEMPLOYMENT HAS BEEN AT ABOUT 7.9% 8% IN THE LAST FEW
ABOUT 7.9% 8% IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, ANYTHING INDICATING THAT
MONTHS, ANYTHING INDICATING THAT THE JOB PROSPECTS ARE CHANGING
THE JOB PROSPECTS ARE CHANGING FOR PEOPLE?
FOR PEOPLE? >> I DO READ THE ECONOMISTS AND
>> I DO READ THE ECONOMISTS AND I THINK WE WILL SEE MORE OF THE
I THINK WE WILL SEE MORE OF THE SLOW GROWTH IN THE COMING YEAR.
SLOW GROWTH IN THE COMING YEAR. THERE ARE STILL RISKS THERE AND
THERE ARE STILL RISKS THERE AND UNCERTAINTIES, A COUPLE OF
UNCERTAINTIES, A COUPLE OF EMPLOYERS MENTIONED THAT HEALTH
EMPLOYERS MENTIONED THAT HEALTH CARE REFORM MADE THEM CAUTIOUS
CARE REFORM MADE THEM CAUTIOUS ABOUT HIRING AND WITH FEDERAL
ABOUT HIRING AND WITH FEDERAL SEQUESTRATION COMING, WE EXPECT
SEQUESTRATION COMING, WE EXPECT IT TO HIT IN THE DEFENSE AREA AS
IT TO HIT IN THE DEFENSE AREA AS WELL AS WE HAVE PERHAPS SEEN.
WELL AS WE HAVE PERHAPS SEEN. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT BASICALLY EVERYONE IS LOOKING
BASICALLY EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR THE ECONOMY TO BUILD UP A
FOR THE ECONOMY TO BUILD UP A GOOD HEAD OF STEAM AND THAT HAS
GOOD HEAD OF STEAM AND THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.
NOT HAPPENED YET. >> AND AN INSTITUTE AT THE
>> AND AN INSTITUTE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA IS
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA IS FOCUSING ON REBUILDING
FOCUSING ON REBUILDING GOVERNMENT STRUCTURES IN NATIVE
GOVERNMENT STRUCTURES IN NATIVE NATIONS.
NATIONS. HERE TO DISCUSS THE TOPIC IS IAN
HERE TO DISCUSS THE TOPIC IS IAN RECORD, DIRECTOR OF THE
RECORD, DIRECTOR OF THE REBUILDING NATIVE NATIONS COURSE
REBUILDING NATIVE NATIONS COURSE SERIES AND ROBERT WILLIAMS A
SERIES AND ROBERT WILLIAMS A PROFESSOR THAT TEACHES IN THE
PROFESSOR THAT TEACHES IN THE PROGRAM.
PROGRAM. ROBERT, AND IAN, THANKS SO MUCH
ROBERT, AND IAN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE
THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE JUST GETTING STARTED IN THE
JUST GETTING STARTED IN THE ONLINE PART, BUT THE RESEARCH
ONLINE PART, BUT THE RESEARCH THE GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
THE GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. DESCRIBE, IAN, THE PROGRAM.
DESCRIBE, IAN, THE PROGRAM. >> THIS SERIES OF COURSES IS AN
>> THIS SERIES OF COURSES IS AN OUT GROWTH OF THE NATIVE NATIONS
OUT GROWTH OF THE NATIVE NATIONS INSTITUTE HERE AT THE UNIVERSITY
INSTITUTE HERE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA, ALONG WITH FELLOW
OF ARIZONA, ALONG WITH FELLOW ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE INDIGINOUS PEOPLE, ONGOING
INDIGINOUS PEOPLE, ONGOING RESEARCH WE'VE BEEN DOING.
RESEARCH WE'VE BEEN DOING. LOOKING AT WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING AT WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL AT RECHING THEIR
MORE SUCCESSFUL AT RECHING THEIR GOALS.
GOALS. THIS IS A FULL MA NATION OF THE
THIS IS A FULL MA NATION OF THE RESEARCH AND TRYING TO BRING THE
RESEARCH AND TRYING TO BRING THE RESEARCH BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES
RESEARCH BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED IT MOST AND THOSE ARE
THAT NEED IT MOST AND THOSE ARE NATIVE NATIONS.
NATIVE NATIONS. >> AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE
>> AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE THROUGH ONLINE COURSES?
THROUGH ONLINE COURSES? >> YES, WE OFFER THE COURSES
>> YES, WE OFFER THE COURSES ONLINE AND THROUGH DVDS, FOR
ONLINE AND THROUGH DVDS, FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN RURAL AREAS
THOSE THAT ARE IN RURAL AREAS AND DO NOT HAVE INTERNET
AND DO NOT HAVE INTERNET CONNECTIONS, WE WANT TO REACH
CONNECTIONS, WE WANT TO REACH EVERYONE.
EVERYONE. AND THE THING THAT SETS US
AND THE THING THAT SETS US BECOME IS THAT THEY HAVE NATIVE
BECOME IS THAT THEY HAVE NATIVE COURSES.
COURSES. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS COULD HEAR FROM THEIR
FOLKS COULD HEAR FROM THEIR PEERS, PEOPLE ON THE GROUND
PEERS, PEOPLE ON THE GROUND MAKING POSITIVE CHANGE HAPPEN.
MAKING POSITIVE CHANGE HAPPEN. >> YOU WANT TO TALK SOME, ROB,
>> YOU WANT TO TALK SOME, ROB, ABOUT ONE OF THE COURSES THAT
ABOUT ONE OF THE COURSES THAT YOU TEACH AND THAT YOU ARE
YOU TEACH AND THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR?
RESPONSIBLE FOR? >> YEAH, I GET TO TEACH THE
>> YEAH, I GET TO TEACH THE TRIBAL COURTS AND WHAT THE
TRIBAL COURTS AND WHAT THE RESEARCH HAD HAS DONE, AND
RESEARCH HAD HAS DONE, AND CLEARLY SHOWS IS THAT THAT
CLEARLY SHOWS IS THAT THAT TRIBES THAT ARE MOST SUCCESSFUL
TRIBES THAT ARE MOST SUCCESSFUL IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC AND
IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ALONG A
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ALONG A RANGE OF FACTORS HAVE STRONG
RANGE OF FACTORS HAVE STRONG INDEPENDENT JUDICIARIES, WE
INDEPENDENT JUDICIARIES, WE FOCUS ON HOW TRIBAL LEADERS
FOCUS ON HOW TRIBAL LEADERS CONTRIBUTE TO THAT PROCESS AND
CONTRIBUTE TO THAT PROCESS AND TRIBAL LEADERS AND PROSECUTORS,
TRIBAL LEADERS AND PROSECUTORS, THE WHOLE RANGE OF PEOPLE
THE WHOLE RANGE OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE TRIBAL JUSTICE,
INVOLVED IN THE TRIBAL JUSTICE, CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE NATION
CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE NATION BUILDING PROJECT.
BUILDING PROJECT. >> WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES IN
>> WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES IN GOVERNING ON THE NATIONS?
GOVERNING ON THE NATIONS? THEY ARE SO DIVERSE AND
THEY ARE SO DIVERSE AND WHATEVER, EITHER ONE OF YOU WHO
WHATEVER, EITHER ONE OF YOU WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT?
WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT? >> WELL, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN
>> WELL, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE RESEARCH IS THAT REALLY THE
THE RESEARCH IS THAT REALLY THE ONLY POLICIES THAT HAVE WORKED
ONLY POLICIES THAT HAVE WORKED FOR TRIBES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENT
FOR TRIBES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENT IS THAT OF SELF DETERMINATION.
IS THAT OF SELF DETERMINATION. YOU MENTIONED THE DIVERSITY.
YOU MENTIONED THE DIVERSITY. WE HAVE SEEN A HUGE MOVEMENT TO
WE HAVE SEEN A HUGE MOVEMENT TO DIVERSITY AS THE NATIVE NATIONS
DIVERSITY AS THE NATIVE NATIONS ARE SHEDDING THE SYSTEMS THAT
ARE SHEDDING THE SYSTEMS THAT WERE IMPOSED ON THEM BY THE
WERE IMPOSED ON THEM BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO WATCH.
IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO WATCH. IN THAT PROCESS, HOWEVER, ARE
IN THAT PROCESS, HOWEVER, ARE NATIONS THAT ARE PERHAPS FURTHER
NATIONS THAT ARE PERHAPS FURTHER BEHIND ON THE CURVE ARE TRYING
BEHIND ON THE CURVE ARE TRYING TO LEARN FROM OTHERS THAT ARE
TO LEARN FROM OTHERS THAT ARE FURTHERER AHEAD AND REALLY,
FURTHERER AHEAD AND REALLY, THAT'S THE ROLE WE SEE THIS
THAT'S THE ROLE WE SEE THIS CURRICULUM PLAYING.
CURRICULUM PLAYING. IT'S GETTING SOME TRIBES OUT OF
IT'S GETTING SOME TRIBES OUT OF THE BOX, IF YOU WILL, AND LEARN
THE BOX, IF YOU WILL, AND LEARN ABOUT THE INNOVATION THAT IS
ABOUT THE INNOVATION THAT IS TAKING PLACE ELSEWHERE.
TAKING PLACE ELSEWHERE. >> SO, WHAT WE GET TO FOCUS ON,
>> SO, WHAT WE GET TO FOCUS ON, IN OUR COURSE ON TRIBAL JUSTICE
IN OUR COURSE ON TRIBAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS IS FIRST OF ALL, TRIBES
SYSTEMS IS FIRST OF ALL, TRIBES HAD FUNCTIONING JUSTICE SYSTEMS.
HAD FUNCTIONING JUSTICE SYSTEMS. THEY HAD THEIR LAWS AND
THEY HAD THEIR LAWS AND TRADITIONS AND CUSTOMS AND THAT
TRADITIONS AND CUSTOMS AND THAT INTERVENING PERIOD IS FOCUSED ON
INTERVENING PERIOD IS FOCUSED ON DESTROYING THE LAWS.
DESTROYING THE LAWS. THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ARE BLENDING
THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ARE BLENDING THE OLD WITH THE NEW.
THE OLD WITH THE NEW. HOW YOU DO DRAW ON THE STRENGTH
HOW YOU DO DRAW ON THE STRENGTH OF THE CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS IN
OF THE CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS IN THE CULTURE AND HELP IT MEET THE
THE CULTURE AND HELP IT MEET THE CHALLENGE OF THE TRIBES, AND THE
CHALLENGE OF THE TRIBES, AND THE NATION BUILDING CHALLENGES.
NATION BUILDING CHALLENGES. >> WHICH NATIONS ARE BEING
>> WHICH NATIONS ARE BEING REALLY SUCCESSFUL RIGHT NOW?
REALLY SUCCESSFUL RIGHT NOW? >> YEAH, IN MY COURSE, I GET TO
>> YEAH, IN MY COURSE, I GET TO FOCUS ON THE NAVAHO NATION, IT'S
FOCUS ON THE NAVAHO NATION, IT'S A LARGE NATION.
A LARGE NATION. IT HAS A LARGE GEOGRAPHIC LAND
IT HAS A LARGE GEOGRAPHIC LAND BASE, 200,000 PLUS CITIZENS.
BASE, 200,000 PLUS CITIZENS. AND A VERY EXTENSIVE COURT
AND A VERY EXTENSIVE COURT SYSTEM, AND SORT OF GETTING THAT
SYSTEM, AND SORT OF GETTING THAT OFF THE GROUND, THEY BEGAN IN
OFF THE GROUND, THEY BEGAN IN EARNEST, AND INVESTED TREMENDOUS
EARNEST, AND INVESTED TREMENDOUS RESOURCES AND MANY OF THEIR OWN
RESOURCES AND MANY OF THEIR OWN CITIZENS WORKED AS JUDGES, AS
CITIZENS WORKED AS JUDGES, AS LAWYERS IN THE COURTS AND THE
LAWYERS IN THE COURTS AND THE UNIQUE THING IS THEY APPLY
UNIQUE THING IS THEY APPLY NAVAHO TRADITION.
NAVAHO TRADITION. IT'S INFUSED THROUGHOUT THE
IT'S INFUSED THROUGHOUT THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE AS A COURT.
DECISIONS THEY MAKE AS A COURT. THAT IS WHAT GIVES THE COURT
THAT IS WHAT GIVES THE COURT AUTHORITY.
AUTHORITY. >>> AND, GO BACK AND TALK MORE,
>>> AND, GO BACK AND TALK MORE, IAN, ABOUT THE INTERVIEWS YOU
IAN, ABOUT THE INTERVIEWS YOU HAVE DONE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE
HAVE DONE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. YOU WERE TELLING ME, IT'S REALLY
YOU WERE TELLING ME, IT'S REALLY A LAND MARK KIND OF EVENT.
A LAND MARK KIND OF EVENT. >> THIS IS THE MOST AMBITIOUS
>> THIS IS THE MOST AMBITIOUS EVENT.
EVENT. WE HAVE BEEN VIDEOTAPING TRIBAL
WE HAVE BEEN VIDEOTAPING TRIBAL LEADERS SPEAKING UP IN FRONT OF
LEADERS SPEAKING UP IN FRONT OF THEIR PEERS AND SITTING DOWN AND
THEIR PEERS AND SITTING DOWN AND PICKING THEIR BRAINS ABOUT THE
PICKING THEIR BRAINS ABOUT THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE, THE
WORK THEY HAVE DONE, THE CHALLENGES THEY HAVE SEEN AND
CHALLENGES THEY HAVE SEEN AND THE SOLUTIONS THEY HAVE
THE SOLUTIONS THEY HAVE DEVELOPED TO OVERCOME THE
DEVELOPED TO OVERCOME THE CHALLENGES AND WE SORT OF LOST
CHALLENGES AND WE SORT OF LOST TRACK, WE THINK IT'S AROUND 150
TRACK, WE THINK IT'S AROUND 150 TRIBAL LEADERS WE INTERVIEWED.
TRIBAL LEADERS WE INTERVIEWED. WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED HOURS OF
WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED HOURS OF FOOT ACKNOWLEDGE AND WHAT WE
FOOT ACKNOWLEDGE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS COMBED THROUGH THE
HAVE DONE IS COMBED THROUGH THE FOOTAGE AND PUT THE BEST OF WHAT
FOOTAGE AND PUT THE BEST OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS.
WE HAVE IN THIS. >> THIS IS HISTORICAL DOCUMENT
>> THIS IS HISTORICAL DOCUMENT AS WELL AS WHAT YOU ARE USING
AS WELL AS WHAT YOU ARE USING JUST FOR YOUR CLASSES NOW.
JUST FOR YOUR CLASSES NOW. WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING TO
WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING TO THESE THINGS IN THE FUTURE AND
THESE THINGS IN THE FUTURE AND HOW YOU ARE GOING TO EXPAND?
HOW YOU ARE GOING TO EXPAND? >> YEAH, THIS IDEA OF HONORING
>> YEAH, THIS IDEA OF HONORING THE PAST WHILE ADDRESSING THE
THE PAST WHILE ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES OF THE FUTURE IS
CHALLENGES OF THE FUTURE IS CRITICAL TO THE RESEARCH THAT WE
CRITICAL TO THE RESEARCH THAT WE ARE DOING.
ARE DOING. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TRIBAL
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TRIBAL COURTS, WE HAVE A TRIBAL COURTS
COURTS, WE HAVE A TRIBAL COURTS CLINIC AND WE ARE INVESTING A
CLINIC AND WE ARE INVESTING A LOT OF RESOURCES, THIS IS WHERE
LOT OF RESOURCES, THIS IS WHERE TRIBES ARE ASKING US TO INVEST
TRIBES ARE ASKING US TO INVEST AND WORKING WITH THEM TO HELP
AND WORKING WITH THEM TO HELP THEM.
THEM. >> SO, MANY OF THE STUDENTS OUT
>> SO, MANY OF THE STUDENTS OUT THERE FROM THE LAW COLLEGE ARE
THERE FROM THE LAW COLLEGE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE TRIBES.
GOING TO WORK WITH THE TRIBES. >> THEY HAVE BEEN REPRESENTING
>> THEY HAVE BEEN REPRESENTING THE CHILDREN IN JUVENILE COURTS,
THE CHILDREN IN JUVENILE COURTS, AND MUCH MORE.
AND MUCH MORE. >> IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KNOW
>> IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM WHERE DO THEY
ABOUT THE PROGRAM WHERE DO THEY GO?
GO? >> REBUILDINGNATIONS.COM.
>> REBUILDINGNATIONS.COM. IT HAS AN OVER VIEW OF THE
IT HAS AN OVER VIEW OF THE COURSES IN THE SERIES.
COURSES IN THE SERIES. THERE'S INFORMATION YOU CAN
THERE'S INFORMATION YOU CAN ACCESS, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE
ACCESS, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE COURSES, IF YOU JUST WANT A
THE COURSES, IF YOU JUST WANT A BIT OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS
BIT OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS GOING ON, YOU CAN FIND IT.
GOING ON, YOU CAN FIND IT. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
TODAY. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ¶
¶ >> AN EGYPTIAN COURT SAID TODAY,
>> AN EGYPTIAN COURT SAID TODAY, MUBARAK COULD BE FREED FROM
MUBARAK COULD BE FREED FROM JAIL.
JAIL. AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S. YOUR
AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S. YOUR CASH, YOUR CAR, EVEN YOUR HOME
CASH, YOUR CAR, EVEN YOUR HOME IF YOU ARE DETAINED, WE TALKED
IF YOU ARE DETAINED, WE TALKED TO THE REPORTER THAT
TO THE REPORTER THAT INVESTIGATED THE PRACTICE FROM
INVESTIGATED THE PRACTICE FROM THE NEW YORKER MAGAZINE.
THE NEW YORKER MAGAZINE. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH WASHINGTON?
WASHINGTON? WE KICK OFF A SERIES ON
WE KICK OFF A SERIES ON GOVERNING AND LEADERSHIP.
GOVERNING AND LEADERSHIP. AND IN AN AGE OF BUDGET CUTS THE
AND IN AN AGE OF BUDGET CUTS THE U.S. SPACE AGENCY MUST REIGN IN
U.S. SPACE AGENCY MUST REIGN IN ITS AMBITION.
ITS AMBITION. >> NASA FOR YEARS HAS HAD A FLAT
>> NASA FOR YEARS HAS HAD A FLAT BUDGET, THERE'S BEEN AN
BUDGET, THERE'S BEEN AN ARGUMENTMENT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
ARGUMENTMENT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO DIFFICULT THINGS
ASKED TO DO DIFFICULT THINGS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE MONEY TO DO.
MONEY TO DO. >> THAT IS ALL AHEAD ON
>> THAT IS ALL AHEAD ON TONIGHT'S NEWS HOUR.
TONIGHT'S NEWS HOUR. DURING SEGREGATION, BIRMINGHAM,
DURING SEGREGATION, BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA HAD TWO BASEBALL TEAMS.
ALABAMA HAD TWO BASEBALL TEAMS. THEY HAD A CHICKEN WIRE FENCE IF
THEY HAD A CHICKEN WIRE FENCE IF SOMEBODY FROM THE OPPOSITE RACE
SOMEBODY FROM THE OPPOSITE RACE WENT, THEY HAD TO SIT ON THE FAR
WENT, THEY HAD TO SIT ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE CHICKEN WIRE FENCE.
SIDE OF THE CHICKEN WIRE FENCE. >> I'M DAVID GREEN, HOW THE TWO
>> I'M DAVID GREEN, HOW THE TWO TEAMS FINALLY BECAME ONE.
TEAMS FINALLY BECAME ONE. ON THE NEXT MORNING DECISION
ON THE NEXT MORNING DECISION FROM NPR NEWS.
FROM NPR NEWS. >>> A RECENT STUDY SHOWS ARIZONA
>>> A RECENT STUDY SHOWS ARIZONA EDUCATORS AND BUSINESSES HAVE A
EDUCATORS AND BUSINESSES HAVE A GROWING OPPORTUNITY TO
GROWING OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPLEMENT WORKFORCE SKILLS
SUPPLEMENT WORKFORCE SKILLS THROUGH CAREER, TECHNICAL
THROUGH CAREER, TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS.
EDUCATION PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT USED
THOSE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT USED TO BE CALLED THE VOCATIONAL
TO BE CALLED THE VOCATIONAL EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. AS MICHAEL REPORTEDS, GETTING
AS MICHAEL REPORTEDS, GETTING PAST THE VOCATIONAL STIGMA IS A
PAST THE VOCATIONAL STIGMA IS A KEY TO SUCCESS.
KEY TO SUCCESS. >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH CTE,
>> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH CTE, CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION IS
CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION IS PERCEPTION.
PERCEPTION. ESPECIALLY PARENTAL PERCEPTION
ESPECIALLY PARENTAL PERCEPTION THAT IT'S A TRACK AWAY FROM
THAT IT'S A TRACK AWAY FROM COLLEGE, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT?
COLLEGE, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? >> I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, ONE OF
>> I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT
THE CHALLENGES IS THAT PERCEPTION ISSUE, THE HISTORICAL
PERCEPTION ISSUE, THE HISTORICAL ISSUE.
ISSUE. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT
I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION OR
CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION OR BACK THEN, CALLED VOCATIONAL
BACK THEN, CALLED VOCATIONAL EDUCATION DID APPEAR TO BE A
EDUCATION DID APPEAR TO BE A TWO-TRACK SYSTEM.
TWO-TRACK SYSTEM. IF YOU WERE IN THE VOCATIONAL
IF YOU WERE IN THE VOCATIONAL EDUCATION TRACK, YOU WERE ONE OF
EDUCATION TRACK, YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT WAS NOT GOING TO
THOSE KIDS THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE GOING TO COLLEGE.
BE GOING TO COLLEGE. AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE
AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE MYTH THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
MYTH THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE NOW IN THIS WORK.
CHANGE NOW IN THIS WORK. CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION
CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION TODAY IS A HIGHLY STRUCTURED,
TODAY IS A HIGHLY STRUCTURED, HIGHLY ALIGNED RIGOROUS COURSE
HIGHLY ALIGNED RIGOROUS COURSE OF EDUCATION THAT ACTUALLY IS
OF EDUCATION THAT ACTUALLY IS FOCUSED ON PREPARING STUDENTS
FOCUSED ON PREPARING STUDENTS FOR JOB PLACEMENT, AND FOR
FOR JOB PLACEMENT, AND FOR CAREER OPPORTUNITIES AND AND
CAREER OPPORTUNITIES AND AND SHOULD ALSO PREPARE STUDENTS FOR
SHOULD ALSO PREPARE STUDENTS FOR POST SECONDARY EDUCATION COLLEGE
POST SECONDARY EDUCATION COLLEGE SUCCESS AS WELL.
SUCCESS AS WELL. IT REALLY IS ABOUT BREAKING DOWN
IT REALLY IS ABOUT BREAKING DOWN THE PERCEPTION AND TRYING TO
THE PERCEPTION AND TRYING TO CREATE A SYSTEM WHERE A STUDENT
CREATE A SYSTEM WHERE A STUDENT CAN DO BOTH.
CAN DO BOTH. IT IS ABOUT CAREER AND COLLEGE
IT IS ABOUT CAREER AND COLLEGE SUCCESS.
SUCCESS. >> IS THE CTE PROGRAM IN ARIZONA
>> IS THE CTE PROGRAM IN ARIZONA OR THE CTE MOVEMENT IN ARIZONA
OR THE CTE MOVEMENT IN ARIZONA FINDING A NICHE WITHIN THE
FINDING A NICHE WITHIN THE LARGER EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM OR
LARGER EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM OR DOES IT NEED TO BE MORE
DOES IT NEED TO BE MORE INTEGRATED YET?
INTEGRATED YET? >> IT'S A BIT OF BOTH, THERE ARE
>> IT'S A BIT OF BOTH, THERE ARE SOME BRIGHT SPOTS OF INTEGRATION
SOME BRIGHT SPOTS OF INTEGRATION THAT WE FIND IN OUR SYSTEM.
THAT WE FIND IN OUR SYSTEM. THERE ARE FABULOUS PROGRAMS
THERE ARE FABULOUS PROGRAMS WITHIN OUR STATE, AND THERE ARE
WITHIN OUR STATE, AND THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHERE, WHAT YOU
EXAMPLES OF WHERE, WHAT YOU WOULD SAY THE TRADITIONAL
WOULD SAY THE TRADITIONAL EDUCATION SYSTEM IS ALIGNING
EDUCATION SYSTEM IS ALIGNING WITH CAREER AND TECHNICAL
WITH CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. THE CHALLENGE IS IT'S NOT COMP
THE CHALLENGE IS IT'S NOT COMP HENCEIVE ENOUGH.
HENCEIVE ENOUGH. AND IT'S NOT SYSTEMATIC ACROSS
AND IT'S NOT SYSTEMATIC ACROSS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND I THINK
THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ARE NEEDING TO
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE NEEDING TO CHANGE.
CHANGE. AND I THINK THERE'S A PART OF
AND I THINK THERE'S A PART OF THE CURRENT TECHNICAL EDUCATION
THE CURRENT TECHNICAL EDUCATION SYSTEM THAT ALSO HAS TO FULLY
SYSTEM THAT ALSO HAS TO FULLY EMBRACE AND EVOLVE AND EMERGE IN
EMBRACE AND EVOLVE AND EMERGE IN TO THIS WORK AS WELL.
TO THIS WORK AS WELL. SO IT'S A BIT OF CREATING A
SO IT'S A BIT OF CREATING A DYNAMIC AND A CHANGE FROM BOTH
DYNAMIC AND A CHANGE FROM BOTH SIDES.
SIDES. >> AND NOT JUST WITHIN THE
>> AND NOT JUST WITHIN THE EDUCATIONAL OR POLITICAL SYSTEM,
EDUCATIONAL OR POLITICAL SYSTEM, BUT THE BUSINESS WORLD.
BUT THE BUSINESS WORLD. WHAT IS ITS ENGAGEMENT NOW AND
WHAT IS ITS ENGAGEMENT NOW AND HOW SHOULD THAT LOOK?
HOW SHOULD THAT LOOK? >> I THINK THE BUSINESS VOICE IS
>> I THINK THE BUSINESS VOICE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY,
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, WHEN
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION IN GENERAL.
IN GENERAL. WE ARE TRYING PREPARE STUDENTS
WE ARE TRYING PREPARE STUDENTS SO THAT THEY HAVE CAREER
SO THAT THEY HAVE CAREER SUCCESS.
SUCCESS. THAT THEY HAVE LIFE-LONG
THAT THEY HAVE LIFE-LONG OPPORTUNITIES FROM A BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITIES FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE.
PERSPECTIVE. WE WANT TO CREATE A STATE OF
WE WANT TO CREATE A STATE OF ARIZONA WHERE THE ECONOMIC
ARIZONA WHERE THE ECONOMIC FUTURE OF OUR STATE IS DRIVEN BY
FUTURE OF OUR STATE IS DRIVEN BY THE TYPE OF WORKFORCE THAT WE
THE TYPE OF WORKFORCE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
NEED TO HAVE. >> A AS YOU AND OTHERS HAVE
>> A AS YOU AND OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT, THE OLD VOCATIONAL
POINTED OUT, THE OLD VOCATIONAL EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WAS USED
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WAS USED SOMETIMES TO TRACK LOW INCOME
SOMETIMES TO TRACK LOW INCOME AND MINORITY STUDENTS AWAY FROM
AND MINORITY STUDENTS AWAY FROM COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. HAVE WE CHANGED THAT YET OR DO
HAVE WE CHANGED THAT YET OR DO WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO?
WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO? >> WELL, I THINK THE CURRENT
>> WELL, I THINK THE CURRENT TECHNICAL EDUCATION SYSTEM, THE
TECHNICAL EDUCATION SYSTEM, THE CHAMPION -- WELL DON'T CHAMPION
CHAMPION -- WELL DON'T CHAMPION THAT VIEWPOINT.
THAT VIEWPOINT. THE CHALLENGE BECOMES, LIKE WITH
THE CHALLENGE BECOMES, LIKE WITH ANYTHING, WHEN YOU ARE CHANGING
ANYTHING, WHEN YOU ARE CHANGING FROM A TRADITIONAL OLD MODEL TO
FROM A TRADITIONAL OLD MODEL TO A NEW SYSTEM, THERE ARE EXAMPLES
A NEW SYSTEM, THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHERE IT STILL EXISTS.
OF WHERE IT STILL EXISTS. WE HAVE EXAMPLES WHERE A
WE HAVE EXAMPLES WHERE A STUDENT'S BACKGROUND OR
STUDENT'S BACKGROUND OR PERCEPTION OF A STUDENT WILL
PERCEPTION OF A STUDENT WILL DRIVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
DRIVE THE OPPORTUNITY. AND SO LONG AS THAT CONTINUES TO
AND SO LONG AS THAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE SYSTEM,
HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE SYSTEM, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FACE
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FACE THAT CHALLENGE, AND FACE THAT
THAT CHALLENGE, AND FACE THAT BARRIER, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT
BARRIER, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR POINT HARD.
PARTICULAR POINT HARD. >> WE NEED TO STRESS IT'S NOT A
>> WE NEED TO STRESS IT'S NOT A SYSTEM FOR THOSE KIDS OR
SYSTEM FOR THOSE KIDS OR PARTICULAR KIDS OF COLOR TYPE OF
PARTICULAR KIDS OF COLOR TYPE OF TRACK VERSUS ANOTHER.
TRACK VERSUS ANOTHER. THAT IS A WORK THAT WE NEED TO
THAT IS A WORK THAT WE NEED TO CHAMPION.
CHAMPION. >> THE LATINO POPULATION IS
>> THE LATINO POPULATION IS GROWING RAPIDLY AND WILL BE THE
GROWING RAPIDLY AND WILL BE THE MAJORITY OF THE STATE'S
MAJORITY OF THE STATE'S POPULATION IN 20 YEARS.
POPULATION IN 20 YEARS. YET, ENROLLMENT IN CTE PROGRAMS
YET, ENROLLMENT IN CTE PROGRAMS BOTH IN HIGH SCHOOL AND IN POST
BOTH IN HIGH SCHOOL AND IN POST SECONDARY EDUCATION AMONG
SECONDARY EDUCATION AMONG LATINOS IS PROPORTIONATELY LOW,
LATINOS IS PROPORTIONATELY LOW, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? >> WE ADDRESS IT, AND WHAT WE
>> WE ADDRESS IT, AND WHAT WE RECOGNIZE FIRST AND FOREMOST,
RECOGNIZE FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF THE STATE
THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND OUR ECONOMY, WILL
OF ARIZONA AND OUR ECONOMY, WILL BE DRIVEN FUNDAMENTALLY, I
BE DRIVEN FUNDAMENTALLY, I BELIEVE, IN OUR ABILITY TO
BELIEVE, IN OUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE THE LATINO COMMUNITY.
EDUCATE THE LATINO COMMUNITY. THE NUMBERS OF THE STUDENTS THAT
THE NUMBERS OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THE K-12
ARE COMING THROUGH THE K-12 EDUCATION SYSTEM ARE MAINLY
EDUCATION SYSTEM ARE MAINLY LATINO KIDS.
LATINO KIDS. AND THAT ACHIEVEMENT GAP PROVIDE
AND THAT ACHIEVEMENT GAP PROVIDE FORCE LATINO KIDS.
FORCE LATINO KIDS. SO IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING MULTIPLE
SO IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING MULTIPLE PATH WAYS FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO
PATH WAYS FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
BE SUCCESSFUL. SO CTE PATH WAYS IS CRITICAL TO
SO CTE PATH WAYS IS CRITICAL TO THAT SUCCESS.
THAT SUCCESS. IT'S NOT THE ONLY PATH WAY, IT'S
IT'S NOT THE ONLY PATH WAY, IT'S CRITICAL TO THAT AND I THINK WE
CRITICAL TO THAT AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF
NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF DEFINING THE MULTIPLE PATH WAYS
DEFINING THE MULTIPLE PATH WAYS FOR THE LATINO STUDENTS, ALL
FOR THE LATINO STUDENTS, ALL STUDENTS, BUT IN PARTICULAR,
STUDENTS, BUT IN PARTICULAR, LATINO STUDENTS.
LATINO STUDENTS. ¶
¶ >> FOR A LOOK AT CAREER
>> FOR A LOOK AT CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN
TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN THE SCHOOLS, ANDREA KELLY SPOKE
THE SCHOOLS, ANDREA KELLY SPOKE WITH TINA NORTON, THE CHIEF
WITH TINA NORTON, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
FINANCIAL OFFICER. >> THANKS TINA FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANKS TINA FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> LET'S START WITH A DISCUSSION
>> LET'S START WITH A DISCUSSION OF THE BUDGET.
OF THE BUDGET. LAST YEAR THE STATE CUT FUNDING
LAST YEAR THE STATE CUT FUNDING FOR THE FRESHMAN PROGRAMS.
FOR THE FRESHMAN PROGRAMS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT IT
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT IT HAS HAD?
HAS HAD? >> YES, THEY CUT THE FRESHMAN
>> YES, THEY CUT THE FRESHMAN FROM THE PROGRAM.
FROM THE PROGRAM. AND THEY CUT AT THE SAME TIME
AND THEY CUT AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE K-12 EDUCATION, THEY CUT
FOR THE K-12 EDUCATION, THEY CUT CAPITAL OUTLAY, WHERE SCHOOL
CAPITAL OUTLAY, WHERE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN ARIZONA FUND
DISTRICTS IN ARIZONA FUND EQUIPMENT, BUILDING, LAND,
EQUIPMENT, BUILDING, LAND, IMPROVEMENTS AND THOSE KIND OF
IMPROVEMENTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THINGS. AND THEY CUT CAPITAL, WHERE THE
AND THEY CUT CAPITAL, WHERE THE EDUCATIONAL EXPENSES ARE.
EDUCATIONAL EXPENSES ARE. TEXTBOOKS AND SFRUKZAL SOFTWARE
TEXTBOOKS AND SFRUKZAL SOFTWARE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THEY CUT BOTH THE FUNDS, WHICH
THEY CUT BOTH THE FUNDS, WHICH WE RECEIVED AS WELL.
WE RECEIVED AS WELL. AND THEY -- SO THE TOTAL
AND THEY -- SO THE TOTAL CUMULATIVE CUTS WAS 52% CUT.
CUMULATIVE CUTS WAS 52% CUT. >> AND WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE
>> AND WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE DOLLAR WISE?
DOLLAR WISE? >> WE WENT FROM A $26 MILLION
>> WE WENT FROM A $26 MILLION BUDGET TO A $13 MILLION BUDGET.
BUDGET TO A $13 MILLION BUDGET. >> THAT WAS FROM THE LAST SCHOOL
>> THAT WAS FROM THE LAST SCHOOL YEAR?
YEAR? >> YES.
>> YES. >> NOW, WHAT PROGRAMS, IF ANY,
>> NOW, WHAT PROGRAMS, IF ANY, WERE HARDEST HIT BY THAT CUT?
WERE HARDEST HIT BY THAT CUT? >> ALL PROGRAMS WERE HIT HARD BY
>> ALL PROGRAMS WERE HIT HARD BY THAT.
THAT. WE FUND ALL OF THE CAREER
WE FUND ALL OF THE CAREER TECHNICAL CAREER EDUCATION
TECHNICAL CAREER EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN EACH OF THE
PROGRAMS IN EACH OF THE DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS. ALL OF THE MEMBER HIGH SCHOOLS
ALL OF THE MEMBER HIGH SCHOOLS RECEIVED THE CUT AS WELL.
RECEIVED THE CUT AS WELL. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT PROGRAMS
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT PROGRAMS ARE CLOSING, THERE ARE FEWER
ARE CLOSING, THERE ARE FEWER SECTIONS BEING OFFERED FOR KIDS.
SECTIONS BEING OFFERED FOR KIDS. AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS
AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT WE PROVIDE
IMPORTANT IS THAT WE PROVIDE PREMIER PROGRAMS.
PREMIER PROGRAMS. MEANING THE STATE OF THE ART
MEANING THE STATE OF THE ART EQUIPMENT, BOTH UP TO DATE
EQUIPMENT, BOTH UP TO DATE TECHNOLOGY, AND WITH A CUT LIKE
TECHNOLOGY, AND WITH A CUT LIKE THAT, IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN THAT
THAT, IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN THAT STANDARD.
STANDARD. >> WHAT HAPPENS TO STUDENTS THAT
>> WHAT HAPPENS TO STUDENTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE INTERESTED IN
WOULD OTHERWISE BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE PROGRAMS AND NOW
ATTENDING THE PROGRAMS AND NOW YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE AS
YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE AS MANY?
MANY? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION,
>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT.
IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT. WE ARE FUNDED ON THE NUMBER OF
WE ARE FUNDED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN OUR PROGRAMS.
STUDENTS IN OUR PROGRAMS. IF WE HAVE FEWER STUDENTS IN THE
IF WE HAVE FEWER STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE HAVE FEWER
PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE HAVE FEWER PROGRAMS TO OFFER, WE SEE LESS
PROGRAMS TO OFFER, WE SEE LESS MONEY.
MONEY. >> WHAT DROUING TO HANDLE THAT?
>> WHAT DROUING TO HANDLE THAT? >> WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOBBYING
>> WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOBBYING LEGISLATURE, SHOWING THAT THE
LEGISLATURE, SHOWING THAT THE MONEY THEY ARE SPENDING IS A
MONEY THEY ARE SPENDING IS A DOLLAR WELL SPENT.
DOLLAR WELL SPENT. THERE WAS A STUDY LAUNCHED LAST
THERE WAS A STUDY LAUNCHED LAST WEEK THAT SHOWS OUR KIDS ARE 25%
WEEK THAT SHOWS OUR KIDS ARE 25% MORE LIKELY TO GRADUATE HIGH
MORE LIKELY TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL AND THERE'S NATIONAL
SCHOOL AND THERE'S NATIONAL STATISTICS THAT SHOW, THEY ARE
STATISTICS THAT SHOW, THEY ARE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO
THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO FINISH COLLEGE IF THEY ATTEND
FINISH COLLEGE IF THEY ATTEND COLLEGE, ARGUMENT IS THAT WE ARE
COLLEGE, ARGUMENT IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE ONE THING THAT
LOOKING FOR THE ONE THING THAT WORKS IN EDUCATION.
WORKS IN EDUCATION. WE HAVE GOT RESULTS THAT SHOW
WE HAVE GOT RESULTS THAT SHOW WHAT WE DO WORKS AT LEAST FOR
WHAT WE DO WORKS AT LEAST FOR OUR KIDS.
OUR KIDS. SO FUND THE PROGRAMS.
SO FUND THE PROGRAMS. >> WE SAW STATISTICS THAT SHOWS
>> WE SAW STATISTICS THAT SHOWS STATE-WIDEN ROLLMENT IS DOWN
STATE-WIDEN ROLLMENT IS DOWN BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET CUTS.
BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET CUTS. ARE THERE OTHER FACTORS DRIVING
ARE THERE OTHER FACTORS DRIVING THE ENROLLMENT CHANGES OTHER
THE ENROLLMENT CHANGES OTHER THAN FINANCE SNS.
THAN FINANCE SNS. >> CERTAINLY, WE ARE ALL
>> CERTAINLY, WE ARE ALL COMPETING FOR THE SAME HOUR IN
COMPETING FOR THE SAME HOUR IN THE DAY FOR STUDENTS.
THE DAY FOR STUDENTS. AS GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS
AS GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS INCREASE.
INCREASE. THEY ARE LESS, FEWER
THEY ARE LESS, FEWER OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS TO TAKE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS TO TAKE OTHER THINGS.
OTHER THINGS. WE ARE TRADITIONALLY CONSIDERED
WE ARE TRADITIONALLY CONSIDERED ELECTIVE COURSES.
ELECTIVE COURSES. AND WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE
AND WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
THAT. MANY OF THE COURSES HAVE
MANY OF THE COURSES HAVE RIGOROUS ACADEMICS, SO A STUDENT
RIGOROUS ACADEMICS, SO A STUDENT COULD ACHIEVE A MATH OR SCIENCE
COULD ACHIEVE A MATH OR SCIENCE CREDIT BY TAKING THE COURSES AND
CREDIT BY TAKING THE COURSES AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT AS
WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT AS WELL.
WELL. >> WHAT PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTY
>> WHAT PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN HARDEST HIT BY THE
HAVE BEEN HARDEST HIT BY THE DECISIONS?
DECISIONS? ENROLLMENT WISE?
ENROLLMENT WISE? >> I WOULD SAY CONSTRUCTION IS
>> I WOULD SAY CONSTRUCTION IS ONE THAT WAS HIT SEVERELY.
ONE THAT WAS HIT SEVERELY. AUTOMOTIVE, BUSINESS
AUTOMOTIVE, BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. A LOT HAVE BEEN HIT.
A LOT HAVE BEEN HIT. >> DO ALL THE COUNTYS OFFER THE
>> DO ALL THE COUNTYS OFFER THE SAME COURSES?
SAME COURSES? DOES IT VARY, COUNTY TO COUNTY?
DOES IT VARY, COUNTY TO COUNTY? OR PROGRAM TO PROGRAM?
OR PROGRAM TO PROGRAM? >> IT VARIES COUNTY TO COUNTY,
>> IT VARIES COUNTY TO COUNTY, THE STATE IS IN CHARGE OF
THE STATE IS IN CHARGE OF APPROVING THE PROGRAMS.
APPROVING THE PROGRAMS. WHEN THEY APPROVE THE PROGRAM,
WHEN THEY APPROVE THE PROGRAM, THEY DECIDE WHAT MAKES THE MOST
THEY DECIDE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IS.
SENSE IS. WE RELY HEAVILY ON BUSINESS AND
WE RELY HEAVILY ON BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY TO ADVISE US ON THE
INDUSTRY TO ADVISE US ON THE RIGHT PROGRAMS FOR THE RIGHT
RIGHT PROGRAMS FOR THE RIGHT KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> WHAT ARE THE MOST POPULAR
>> WHAT ARE THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS?
PROGRAMS? >> YOU KNOW, WE ARE -- THE
>> YOU KNOW, WE ARE -- THE THINGS LIKE THE BIO SCIENCES AND
THINGS LIKE THE BIO SCIENCES AND ENGINEERING, NURSING, BUT, AS
ENGINEERING, NURSING, BUT, AS YOU CAN SEE, BIOSCIENCE IS, AND
YOU CAN SEE, BIOSCIENCE IS, AND ENGINEERING, THOSE LEAD TO A
ENGINEERING, THOSE LEAD TO A FOUR-YEAR AGREE IF NOT MORE MOST
FOUR-YEAR AGREE IF NOT MORE MOST SECONDARY EDUCATION.
SECONDARY EDUCATION. >> EXPLAIN, IF YOU CAN, HOW THAT
>> EXPLAIN, IF YOU CAN, HOW THAT PROGRAM FOR THOSE BIO SCIENCES,
PROGRAM FOR THOSE BIO SCIENCES, FRAMP, FITS IN WITH THE COLLEGE
FRAMP, FITS IN WITH THE COLLEGE EDUCATION LATER DOWN THE LINE
EDUCATION LATER DOWN THE LINE IN.
IN. >> WELL, FOR STARTERS, THEY
>> WELL, FOR STARTERS, THEY SIEVE COLLEGE CREDIT WHILE THEY
SIEVE COLLEGE CREDIT WHILE THEY ARE IN THE PROGRAMS.
ARE IN THE PROGRAMS. FOR INSTANCE, THE ENGINEERING
FOR INSTANCE, THE ENGINEERING PROGRAMS, THEY ARE IN THE
PROGRAMS, THEY ARE IN THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA COLLEGE
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA COLLEGE CREDITS.
CREDITS. IT LEADS DIRECTLY TO THE FIELD.
IT LEADS DIRECTLY TO THE FIELD. THEY CAN LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS,
THEY CAN LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS, RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND
RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND LEARN AS MUCH AS THEY CAN AND
LEARN AS MUCH AS THEY CAN AND THEN CHOOSE THE DESIRED FIELD.
THEN CHOOSE THE DESIRED FIELD. >> THAT IS INTERESTING, I THINK
>> THAT IS INTERESTING, I THINK PEOPLE VIEW TECHNICAL HE
PEOPLE VIEW TECHNICAL HE EDUCATION AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO
EDUCATION AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. IT'S IGOR.
IT'S IGOR. NOT BOTH.
NOT BOTH. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT?
EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT? >> WE DO, IT'S EXACTLY THE
>> WE DO, IT'S EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT, EVEN TAKE OUR
OPPOSITE OF THAT, EVEN TAKE OUR COSMETOLOGY PROGRAM, WHEN A
COSMETOLOGY PROGRAM, WHEN A STUDENT GRADUATES AND TAKES THE
STUDENT GRADUATES AND TAKES THE STATE LICENSE, THEY CAN TAKE IT
STATE LICENSE, THEY CAN TAKE IT TO UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND
TO UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND THEY GET 45 COLLEGE CREDITS, SO
THEY GET 45 COLLEGE CREDITS, SO THEY ARE WITHIN 6 CREDITS OF
THEY ARE WITHIN 6 CREDITS OF HAVING THEIR AA, JUST BY HAVING
HAVING THEIR AA, JUST BY HAVING THIS LICENSE.
THIS LICENSE. MANY PROGRAMS LEAD DIRECTLY TO
MANY PROGRAMS LEAD DIRECTLY TO COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. 126 OF OUR NURSING GRADUATES ARE
126 OF OUR NURSING GRADUATES ARE EMPLOYED BY TUCSON MEDICAL
EMPLOYED BY TUCSON MEDICAL CENTER.
CENTER. THEY CAN GO ON AND GET THEIR RN
THEY CAN GO ON AND GET THEIR RN OR BN.
OR BN. >> BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S
>> BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S PROGRAMS FOR STUDENTS THAT DO
PROGRAMS FOR STUDENTS THAT DO NOT WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE?
NOT WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE? >> YEAH, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT
>> YEAH, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT POINT.
POINT. WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF SAYING TO
WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF SAYING TO OUR KIDS, YOU NEED TO GO TO
OUR KIDS, YOU NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. TODAY'S WORKFORCE HAS CHANGED.
TODAY'S WORKFORCE HAS CHANGED. MANY OF THE PROGRAMS, YOU CAN
MANY OF THE PROGRAMS, YOU CAN GET A CERTIFICATE, GO DIRECTLY
GET A CERTIFICATE, GO DIRECTLY INTO EMPLOYMENT AND THAT
INTO EMPLOYMENT AND THAT EMPLOYMENT WILL GIVE YOU $46,000
EMPLOYMENT WILL GIVE YOU $46,000 YEAR JOB WITHOUT THE DEBT
YEAR JOB WITHOUT THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLLEGE
ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLLEGE DEGREE.
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