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are banned charts medicare's failures that charles chamberlain
political director for about a boxer for america
of charles along the entire
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we appreciate your time silk
how you guys are part of movement to sign up senators for the public option
saying on the record that their in favor of record to reconciliation
of so first tell me how the settlers are we up to them
yeah that's right julia campaign to get at me senators on the record i think
they were absolutely boca republic option to reconciliation
with a little while it's not just a market for american also the publicity
campaign committee etc reelection atlantic's really cutting it close to
thirty five senators who
are officially on the record and that that's going from zero to thirty five in
just two weeks and with the head of the senators signing on and bipartisan
health care
from it
yet white house at a couple who are leading senators telesat powers
impossible
you just don't have the votes
what do you think is motivating and i like senator harkin who theoretically
has been in favor of the public option along
this say that you don't because when you guys keep on top of our system
it's a really interesting question um... when you when you look back in india
look at the record
we actually got fifty one senators on record as even after august after the
tough month of august and fighting for health care reform
we got fifty one senators on the record that they would vote for public option
in october you had uh... it rockefeller senator rockefeller talking about how
he was sure that they were the b_-fifty two disorders that would vote for it and
you could have tom harkin himself and
we've got summer retreat fifty five to fifty seven senators but support passing
a public option so if you're going to remark about changed who claimed that
somehow i had a nowhere
uh... we watched uh... sixty seven senators no longer support it
i don't buy it
i think if they agreed to a vote uh... i think that we're going to be the
supported their and i think if you look at it would happen if we have white
house uh... we have senators that
are afraid to push back and conservative democrats uh... and
prohibitive
afraid to push them
uh... to move forward on such popular reform is just beyond me but that's
clearly what happened
trials i disagree
now you've caught me on a cranky de gotta admit but i don't think that
they're scared at all might think they're part of the same sellout
corporate it's that
republicans are
so is going green wall says they play you know rotating billing
and uh... tom harkin and jay rockefeller drew a number this time around
they were lying all through out when they said they were for the public
option they're lying now and i think i have to be honest with you tonight like
i said i'm sorry for cashman about there but i think solo thirty-five people you
signed up are also lie
that none of them are going to go for the public option and that they're just
trying to get much collect money and
and they're never going to do it because whatever given an opportunity
they never do
and i want to know you can look at least cranky and there's no question that
we've got in remarkable we've got an administration elected i think you can
to get what we keep hearing from them and that we can't
uh... and that's not what you know that's not what i worked my butt off
four in the election and uh...
in november that's not what it's all of the arts democracy for america effort to
change campaign committee credo action members did working to elect barack
obama and the huge democratic majority to the senate and how much we elected
them to actually brought real change in west
i think is really important feedback at the end of the american people support
of public option in fact
the majority of the
senate democrat support of public option the majority of house democratic
republic option the majority of american support of public option through what i
understand why are we going to get into the corporate money
i won't
suits
they say they want the public action but idon't believe them i think they're
lying thing almost all
all of them
lawyers day now because eddie n i've you know look we
digital baba elected on the show over and over
as he better than the republicans that it's hard to be worst right but i had
that was a largely a waste of time
yet okay if i were rejection letter and i would love to do that right now that
they have been taken on a lighter and what i'd like to chat with you
as i wanted to play i'm gonna prove to them but i'm not a liar
by forcing a vote on the senate floor
and that's the key is that we have an actual vote on the public option that we
can know who the bad guys really are who are the bad democrats
but actually against the public option and in fact i would argue
but we've got senators out there like senator harkin women that you know what
the president claiming that the photos benefited that the data tell if in fact
which democrats of the democrats are going to vote against this and and i
think it's a really important to note that
uh... what we know one democrat the revolt against is not splash landings
and what we did a quick we've got a great primary challenger running against
her
we've raised over a million dollars for a hundred and under forty eight hours
right
until he becomes a zombie but you know i need to be overly cynical but given
maximum of two years
you know pick-up grafton uh... out within twenty years
according to people with his kabhi corrupt and with the change the cards
chelsea possibly one of the reasons why no words in the loss of sovereignty
herbal others are granted
it's because for what i am the pete stark
so useless with its chairman of the house ways and means committee
and he laughs a day until the people who like this out there lobbyist from all
reports because he's an actual progressive
real progressives therefore and few inbetween and they have no chance
the system is
one million per cent corrupt
you want to know why they are not going to get the bold action because the
public option according to the c_b_o_
and they have very very concerned i'm boers
would take about three hundred billion dollars at a private insurance
and directed overtook just for two percent of americans
history everybody does you think they'll let that money walk out the door
written by all those politicians it waz all their money for nothing
charles i think that they can't tell you made coffee and a bad day but i think
we're wasting our time later completely bought
well you know i did not but i don't know where you're coming from uh... and i i
mean accurately aker the frustration manfred
at the party at we talked about what properly important that
we had a a movement working to appalled
speaker fired i think actually happened uh... you know what what happens if we
give up and we don't do anything i mean it's not going to be better it will be
worse
take a look at the past in the history of
of offices they have been working development
no matter how much we might prefer a trade with president obama t-shirt back
into the president bush
uh... toto it is important for us to continually question i'm confident that
the senate bill
even as it is right now is the better bill that would have been had we not put
out there pushing everyday for dinner
one of the many reasons why we continue to push for a public option because
uh... every day that we continue to push to make the bill better
it's more likely that they're going to mexico better even if they don't have
the public auction at the end
but i'd like you i i can't give up hope i really i do believe it you know i
don't know the majority of american can
kids can come together make it actually happened
no uh... disagree disagree though
and later clarified with so look i love that you guys are out there fighting and
i said everyday unit with the marks for america progressive change campaign
committee credo action
there's a kickin *** and you
doing the best you can to get these guys on the record to get them on our side et
cetera uh... carlton connects
donahue
love that effort anna and i love that you're not given up on it and and we
need to fight okay so i hear you on that
in limited reform i'm good at what the
article to take the damn vote
the
and so
couldn't agree more with you take the boat take the vote
then let's see where people stand but
charles you know that's exactly why they're not going to take the vote
because it allows them to live better ok it allows them say although we were all
in favor but somehow
we didn't have the votes for it
a lot of improve it's because i don't want to prove it to causing alarm a
corporate lobbyists ela
so and here's the
parkway they'll give you are not given up hope
i was planning to go nuclear
and so you guys doing good work but
omp let me get a playwright you know i did
i don't know who will come to anything and i a m so and i'm a bit to discuss a
now but i want to come to their house men i
we need a political revolution in this country
because those few progresses like pete's targets i have no chance
obama's me
never ever going to do it for the poor i disagree with you on this
we got nothing out of this bill
nothing it is the most watered-down bill ever birthday or produce one aren't
almost every
will sent
so
no this bill stocks dot plaques
american credibility but could that would affect
uh... if you know if the data is derived from the bottom of the matter how much
worse it could be but there's no question about the bill fax is not
there's not much air to be happy about that nothing to be proud of him and
we've got a mandate talking about how it's going to cover thirty one million
more americans uh... yet because they're forced to buy junk insurance so it
emanates definitely a rate that you have a lot more that we agreed upon that we
get a grip on it and the for battle
and i've definitely i'm interested in uh... and what your plans for ur connect
your honor autumn and there's no question we need a backup progressives
and we need to make it
clear that they cannot be trampled weapon and unfortunately
repeatedly over and over again we've had an administration that they were and
claiming they were progressive but instead
and every chance they can approach progressives in the faith and we just
can't take that and more
i sell symbol of
from the marks for america we would appreciate your own that's great
conversation except i thought that marcia categorically thank you keep up
the flight unit rates up
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