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>> IT'S TEDX TIME IN ALBUQUERQUE AGAIN, THE
ANNUAL EXCHANGE OF IDEAS THAT'S SWELLED IN SIZE TO
FILL POPEJOY HALL THIS YEAR WITH 17 SPEAKERS COVERING
EVERYTHING FROM HIP TOP TO COLD ATOM TECHNOLOGY.
I SAT DOWN WITH TEDX ABQ CURATOR TIM NISLY, AND
SPEAKERS ELISEO TORRES AND BARBARA JENNINGS TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE SHARE THEIR PASSION
FOR KNOWLEDGE. >> IT'S TED TIME IN
ALBUQUERQUE, THE ANNUAL EVENT THAT SHOWCASES IDEAS
FROM AROUND NEW MEXICO. I'M JOINED TODAY BY THE
CURATOR, TIM NISLY, AND TWO OF THIS YEAR'S SPEAKERS.
DR. ELISEO TORRES IS A WORLD-RENOWNED MEXICAN FOLK
HEALER, AND ALSO AN ADMINISTRATOR AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO. AND DR. BARBARA JENNINGS
WORKS AT SANDIA NATIONAL LABORATORIES AND TEACHES AT
CENTRAL NEW MEXICO COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
TIM, TED HAS HAD A HUGE GROWTH CURVE HERE.
WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU'VE COME BACK TO NEW
MEXICO PBS FOR A THIRD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
BUT WE CANNOT FORGET THAT SOME FOLKS ARE STILL
CATCHING UP TO TED AND WHAT IT IS ABOUT.
TAKE US FROM THE BASICS. WHAT IS IT, WHY SHOULD
PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO IT, AND WHAT CAN THEY COME AWAY
LEARNING FROM IT? >> TED AT ITS CORE IS
REALLY SOMEONE THAT'S SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT
AN ISSUE, SOMETHING THAT I MAY NEVER SPEND AN ENORMOUS
AMOUNT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT, AND TAKING MONTHS TO
COMPRESS THAT IDEA DOWN TO THREE, SIX, NINE MINUTES,
AND THEN GIFTING IT BACK TO THE WORLD.
THAT'S WHERE INNOVATION COMES FROM, IS WHEN YOU HAVE
YOUR IDEAS AND YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCE, AND THEY COLLIDE
WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE EXPERIENCE.
AND WHEN PEOPLE SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF TIME TO COMPRESS
THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCE DOWN TO AN EASY TO UNDERSTAND
SHORT TIME PERIOD, IT'S A VERY POWERFUL THING.
AND SO TED IS REALLY ALL ABOUT TAKING THOSE IDEAS
THAT ARE AT THE PINNACLE OF HUMAN EVOLUTION AND MAKING
THEM MORE ACCESSIBLE. >> INTERESTINGLY, THAT FITS
RIGHT INTO THE THREE BUCKETS, SO TO SPEAK, THAT
TED STANDS FOR, AND IT FITS RIGHT INTO NEW MEXICO'S
WHEELHOUSE, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
SO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THAT, TECHNOLOGY AND
EDUCATION. >> SO, TED STANDS FOR
TECHNOLOGY, ENTERTAINMENT, AND DESIGN, AND THAT'S WHERE
IT STARTED IN '86 IN CALIFORNIA, AND OVER THE
LAST 30 YEARS IT'S REALLY BROADENED OUT TO INCLUDE
EVERYTHING FROM DOCTORS AND LAWYERS AND FARMERS.
AND THIS STUFF IS RELEVANT. BUSINESS FOLKS AND
ENTREPRENEURS. IT'S RELEVANT TO PARENTS AND
IT'S RELEVANT TO TEACHERS, AND ANYONE THAT INTERACTS
WITH OTHER PEOPLE. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW
YOU DESIGN YOUR OWN LIFE, IT'S ALWAYS SURPRISING TO ME
THE IDEA THAT I'M NOT SURE WHY THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO
MY LIFE. THAT'S WHERE THE REAL
INNOVATION COMES FROM, BECAUSE I DON'T SPEND A LOT
OF TIME IN THAT SPACE THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO
INTERESTING. I WANT TO TURN TO OUR TWO
GUESTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH, FIRST OF ALL.
IT'S VERY INTERESTING. DR. JENNINGS, LET ME START
WITH YOU. I AM FASCINATED WITH YOUR
SUBJECT MATTER; CELLPHONES. THEY'RE SO UBIQUITOUS AND SO
EVERYWHERE, AND WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS
ANYMORE. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO GET
ACROSS IN YOUR TED TALK ABOUT CELLPHONES?
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WE USE
THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE EFFECT
THAT IT HAS ON US, ON OUR MINDS, AND THE WAY THAT WE
INTERACT WITH PEOPLE, AND THE WAY THAT WE DRIVE OUR
CARS, AND THE WAY WE'RE JUST REALLY LIVING OUR LIVES,
TOTALLY. SO WHAT I WANT PEOPLE TO BE
AWARE OF IS JUST TO CONSIDER THAT, AND TO CONSIDER THAT
IT IS IMPACTING YOUR LIFE. >> IN WHAT WAYS?
WHAT COMMONALITIES ARE OUT THERE THAT YOU SEE THAT IT'S
IMPACTING US THAT WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF?
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IS THE
CELLPHONE -- INTERACTING WITH THE CELLPHONE IS
ACTUALLY SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE SEEKING INFORMATION.
SEEKING INFORMATION ELICITS A CHEMICAL IN YOUR BRAIN,
DOPAMINE, AND DOPAMINE IS WHAT'S REALLY KIND OF
RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDICTIONS, IT'S BEHIND ADDICTIONS.
SO THE MORE YOU SEEK, THE MORE DOPAMINE, THE MORE YOU
WANT TO SEEK, THE MORE DOPAMINE, THE MORE YOU WANT
TO SEEK. SO ACTUALLY, WE DO HAVE AN
ADDICTION TO OUR CELLPHONES. BUT IT'S NOT TO REALLY
TALKING ON THE CELLPHONE, IT'S REALLY TO CHECKING IT,
TO SEEKING INFORMATION. AND THIS EXTENDS BEYOND
CELLPHONES. ANOTHER ANALOGY THAT'S
PROBABLY MORE UNDERSTANDABLE BY PEOPLE IS SEARCHING THE
WEB. YOU GET ON THE WEB AND
YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK UP A RECIPE FOR JAPANESE FOOD,
AND YOU END UP LOOKING AT AND FINDING YOURSELF AN HOUR
LATER READING ABOUT BREEDS OF DOGS.
HOW DID I GET THERE? WELL, BECAUSE YOU WERE
SEEKING INFORMATION. AND YOU'RE NOT TIRED.
IT ELICITS EXCITEMENT. SO YOU GET EXCITED WHEN YOU
FIND THINGS. AND THEN WHEN YOU FIND
YOURSELF WITHOUT YOUR TECHNOLOGY, THEN YOU HAVE A
WHOLE OTHER RESPONSE, WHICH IS, OH, MY GOSH, I'VE LOST A
LIMB, I DON'T HAVE ANY CELLPHONE.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE
PHANTOM PHONE IN THE POCKET? WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THIS,
WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THE VIBRATION IS IN OUR POCKET,
AND THE PHONE IS ACTUALLY NOT THERE.
>> THAT IS SO TRUE. IT IS, IT'S A PHANTOM PHONE.
I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THAT. THERE'S SO MUCH ABOUT THIS
TOPIC, THOUGH, THAT THERE IS TO DISCUSS, AND LIKE TIM WAS
SAYING, YOU HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN TO SIX MINUTES.
SO AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, MAYBE I CAN
WORK IT INTO MY PRESENTATION.
YOU KNOW, REACHING FOR IT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A HIT.
I MEAN, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO KNOW HOW THESE THINGS ARE
EFFECTING US? WE ALL KNOW THESE THINGS ARE
HAVING THIS THING OVER US, AND WE FEEL POWERLESS
AGAINST IT. IS THERE SOMETHING THERE,
THAT IN YOUR RESEARCH IN PSYCHOLOGY THAT PEOPLE ARE
NOW RECOMMENDING WAYS TO DEAL WITH YOUR CELLPHONE?
>> YES. >> SERIOUSLY? NO KIDDING?
>> YES. TURN IT OFF. TURN IT OFF AND GET AWAY
FROM IT. GET IT OUT OF YOUR LIFE FOR
AN HOUR A DAY, AND DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR
MIND FOR AN HOUR A DAY. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ABOUT
THOSE CELLPHONES, THE SOUND THAT IT EMITS -- IT'S LIKE
PAVLOV'S DOGS. YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR THE SOUND
AND YOU IMMEDIATELY RESPOND. THE AMOUNT OF TEXT THAT'S
VISUAL TO YOU, 140 CHARACTERS, THAT'S WHAT OUR
ATTENTION SPAN IS GEARED FOR.
SO I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE EVEN LISTEN TO THEIR VOICE
MAILS ANYMORE, OR READ THEIR WHOLE E-MAIL?
THEY'LL SAY, OH, I'LL GET TO THAT ONE LATER, JUST TEXT
ME. SO IT'S REALLY IMPLICATING
EVEN THE WAY WE THINK, BECAUSE WE'RE SHORTENING OUR
ATTENTION SPAN AND OUR ABILITY TO FOCUS.
AND THE OTHER STEP BEYOND THAT, THAT I SAY TO MY
STUDENTS, IS WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT INFORMATION THAT'S
NOT REALLY -- WITHOUT VERIFYING IT.
SO WE'LL DO A GOOGLE SEARCH AND GET ONE ANSWER, AND YOU
SAY, THAT MUST BE THE ANSWER, AND I'M AN EXPERT
NOW BECAUSE I KNOW THAT. SO IT'S REALLY IMPACTING THE
WAY WE THINK, AND I THINK IT COULD BE VERY LIMITING,
WHEREAS IT COULD ALSO BE EXPANSIVE FOR US BECAUSE IT
DOES ALLOW US TO GET TO MORE INFORMATION.
WE NEED TO BE SURE HOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT
INFORMATION. >> IT'S FASCINATING.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS TALK, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY,
VERY INTERESTING. DR. TORRES, I CAN'T IMAGINE
THERE IS ANYMORE BIGGER GULF THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE
BETWEEN NEW TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TRADITIONAL HEALING
AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I'M SO CURIOUS HOW YOU GOT
INTO THIS IN YOUR FAMILY ENDEAVORS, AND HOW YOU'VE
TAKEN -- WE'LL TAKE THE NEXT STEPS IN A QUICK SECOND, BUT
WHAT'S YOUR BACKGROUND IN THIS, YOUR FAMILY
BACKGROUND? >> I LIVED IN A RURAL
COMMUNITY, AND THERE WERE FEW DOCTORS.
IN FACT, THERE WEREN'T ANY DOCTORS THAT I CAN REMEMBER.
AND MY MOTHER USED TO TELL US, DON'T YOU DARE GET SICK.
IF YOU WILL, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR ILLNESS.
AND SHE DID, ALL SIX OF US, THROUGH MEDICINAL PLANTS,
THROUGH MAGICAL RITUALS. SHE TOOK CARE OF OUR HEALTH
NEEDS. AND LATER ON I MET A HEALER
WHO WAS ALSO A SCHOOL TEACHER IN DEL RIO, TEXAS,
BY THE NAME OF JUAN MORIN, AND IT BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF
MEMORIES, AND I ASKED JUAN IF HE WOULD TEACH ME, AND HE
SAID, YES, I'LL TEACH YOU IF YOU COME TO DEL RIO.
I WAS LIVING IN AUSTIN, TEXAS AT THE TIME, AND I
WENT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND IT WAS TOO FAR.
BUT LATER ON, I MOVED ONTO THE UNIVERSITY IN THE MID
SEVENTIES OR SO, AND UNIVERSITIES ARE WONDERFUL
ABOUT ALLOWING YOU TO RESEARCH THE THINGS THAT ARE
DEAR TO YOU, AND SO I HOOKED UP WITH A PROFESSOR WHO
BECAME ONE OF MY MAJOR MENTORS, DR. STANLEY
BRANDES, AN ARCHAEOLOGIST, ANTHROPOLOGIST, SOCIOLOGIST,
AND HE TRAVELED FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, LATER ON WITH MY
FAMILY, ALL OVER MEXICO AND GUATEMALA, AND WHILE HE WAS
RESEARCHING PYRAMIDS AND ROCKS, I WAS WORKING WITH
CURANDEROS, OR HEALERS, AND I PUBLISHED A COUPLE OF
BOOKS IN THE MID EIGHTIES. THAT GOT ME INTERESTED, AND
I'M JUST FASCINATED WITH THE TOPIC.
AND I TEACH A CLASS EVERY SUMMER AT UNM.
>> AND IT'S WELL ATTENDED IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM
FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE. >> YES, OVER 200 STUDENTS,
AND NOW THEY'RE COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
>> INTERESTING. INTERNATIONALLY, AS WELL, I
HAVE TO IMAGINE. >> WELL, THIS YEAR -- OF
COURSE, WE ALWAYS GET A GROUP OF ABOUT 20-25 HEALERS
FROM MEXICO THE SECOND WEEK OF THE CLASS, IT'S A
TWO-WEEK CLASS, AND THIS YEAR WE HAD A GROUP OF
AFRICANS FOR THE FIRST TIME, ONE GROUP OUT OF UGANDA, AND
ONE HEALER FROM GABON, AFRICA, AND THEN WE HAD A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM CUBA, AND THEN WE HAD SOMEONE FROM
PERU, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BORROWING BACK AND
FORTH FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING
THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S QUITE CORRECT IN MY READ ON
HISTORY, AS WELL. INTERESTINGLY FOR NEW MEXICO
THE CURANDERA HAS A SPECIAL PLACE HERE IN NEW MEXICO,
BUT FOR A LOT OF FOLKS WHO MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH
WHAT HAPPENS WITH A HEALER, WHAT DOES THE HEALER
ACTUALLY DO? IT'S MORE OF A ROMANTICIZED
THING THAT THEY CAN'T QUITE SEE AND HEAR.
YOU'RE PUTTING ACTUALLY FLESH AND BONE ON THIS FOR A
LOT OF FOLKS, IT'S INTERESTING.
>> I'LL DO SOME DEMONSTRATIONS OF THE BASIC
RITUALS. >> WILL YOU REALLY?
NO KIDDING? TELL ME ABOUT ONE OF THEM.
WHAT ARE THE RITUALS? >> WELL, ONE OF THEM WOULD
BE MAL DE OJO, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON, OR THE EVIL
EYE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE SAY EVIL, BECAUSE
PEOPLE DON'T MEAN TO DO EVIL, ESPECIALLY TO BABIES.
THE IDEA IS THAT IF YOU STARE AT SOMEONE, YOU CAN
MAKE THAT PERSON SICK. THERE'S MENTAL VIBRATIONS
THAT PROJECT TO THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE STARING AT.
IF YOU TOUCH THE PERSON, THEN YOU'LL NEUTRALIZE THOSE
VIBRATIONS. BUT IF A PERSON GETS SICK
AFTER THE STARE, AFTER YOU LEAVE, A PERSON MAY HAVE
DIARRHEA, HEADACHES, INSOMNIA, THAT PERSON COULD
BE DIAGNOSED AS HAVING MAL DE OJO.
SO YOU TAKE AN EGG, PREFERABLY A FERTILE EGG,
BUT NOT NECESSARILY. YOU RUB THE PERSON FROM HEAD
TO TOE THREE TIMES IN PRAYER, A CHANT, AND
AFTERWARDS YOU BREAK THE EGG AND YOU DIAGNOSE THE EGG IN
A GLASS OF WATER TO SEE WHETHER THE PERSON HAS MAL
DE OJO. THERE ARE CERTAIN FORMS THAT
THE EGG MAKES. AND THEN YOU GET RID OF THE
EGG, YOU FLUSH IT DOWN THE COMMODE, OR YOU BURY IT
OUTSIDE, OR JUST THROW IT OUTDOORS.
WHY AN EGG? SUPPOSEDLY AN EGG IS A
LIVING CELL, AND YOU'RE SACRIFICING SOMETHING.
I HAVE A DIFFERENT THEORY. IT'S A WONDERFUL MASSAGE.
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN MASSAGED WITH AN EGG?
>> I CAN'T SAY I HAVE. >> IT'S SOFT, IT'S COOL,
AND YOU HAVE LOVED ONES AROUND THAT WANT YOU TO GET
WELL. AND IF GRANDMA DOES IT, YOU
CAN'T FAIL, YOU'VE GOT TO GET WELL.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THEORIES.
THERE IS ANOTHER THEORY THAT I WON'T GO INTO BY DR. RUBO
WHO DID A STUDY ALONG THE U.S./MEXICAN BORDER, AND HE
HAS HIS OWN THEORIES. BUT YOU KNOW WHERE IT COMES
FROM, THE RITUAL? PEOPLE SAY IT CAME FROM THE
NATIVE AMERICANS. NO, IT CAME FROM THE
SPANIARDS, WHO BORROWED IT FROM THE MOORS, WHO WERE IN
SPAIN SOME 700 TO 800 YEARS, MAYBE 900 YEARS.
SO THE RITUAL ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE SPANIARDS, AND THEY
BROUGHT IT TO NEW MEXICO. THE NATIVES HAD OTHER
RITUALS AND OTHER BELIEFS. AND IT'S FOUND ALL OVER THE
WORLD. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU,
HOW PREVALENT IS THE PRACTICE, BOTH HERE IN NEW
MEXICO, BUT AROUND THE WORLD, AS WELL?
>> I JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN ISRAEL, AND IT'S THERE.
AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, I WAS IN EGYPT, IN CAIRO, AND
IT'S THERE. IN FACT, VERY PREVALENT IN
EGYPT. >> IS THERE A RENAISSANCE
OF SORTS HAPPENING IN YOUR VIEW?
ARE FOLKS COMING INTO THIS? ARE YOU SEEING MORE STUDENTS
COME IN OVER THE YEARS? IS SOMETHING HAPPENING HERE?
>> THE 13 YEARS THAT I'VE TAUGHT THE CLASS, THERE'S
BEEN -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS.
YOU AVERAGE 200 STUDENTS PER CLASS, TIMES 13.
THERE'S A MOVEMENT HERE IN NEW MEXICO NOW, WE HAVE
HEALERS LIKE BONITA GONZALES WHO HAS A PRACTICE IN THE
NORTH VALLEY, SHE HAS TRAINED WITH THE CURANDEROS
FROM MEXICO, SHE SPENT TIME IN MEXICO, AND SHE JUST
BUILT HER SWEAT LODGE, A MEXICAN SWEAT LODGE, WHICH
IS A PART OF THE HEALING PROCESS.
THERE'S LARA ALONSO DE FRANLKIN IN LOS LUNAS, SHE
HAS A GROUP OF APPRENTICES. SHE HAS ALSO TRAINED WITH
THE HEALERS FROM MEXICO. THERE IS A GROUP IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA AROUND THE OAKLAND AREA THAT'S DOING A
LOT OF THINGS, WORKING WITH US.
THERE'S A GROUP IN COLORADO AROUND THE DENVER AREA.
THERE'S A GROUP IN PHOENIX. THERE'S A GROUP IN TEXAS.
THERE'S A GROUP IN NEW YORK. THERE'S A GROUP THAT'S BEEN
COMING FROM NEW YORK, NOW. AND MINNESOTA, THERE'S A
GROUP OF PHYSICIANS THAT ARE WORKING WITH INTEGRATED
MEDICINE AND WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, AND THEY COME
TO THE CLASS. SO THERE IS A MOVEMENT.
WE'RE NOT AS FAR AHEAD AS LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES, AS
MEXICO. MEXICO HAS A SCHOOL WHERE
THEY TEACH HEALERS. CHINESE MEDICINE HAS BEEN
DOING THIS FOR YEARS. THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO
INTEGRATE BOTH TRADITIONAL AND MODERN HOMEOPATHIC
MEDICINE. CAN WE GET THERE?
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO PITCH IN MY TEDX TALK.
>> I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR IT. IT SOUNDS REALLY
INTERESTING. THAT'S WILD, IT'S REALLY
SOMETHING. IT'S INTERESTING, THINKING
ABOUT THE STARE AND THE GIVING OF ENERGY, PHONES
GIVE AN ENERGY, AS WELL, AND I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING,
TURN IT OFF. DO WE HAVE CLARITY NOW ON
THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF PHONES, IN YOUR VIEW?
DO WE KNOW IF THESE THINGS ARE DANGEROUS OR NOT FOR OUR
BRAINS, THE WAY WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT A COUPLE OF
YEARS AGO? >> WELL, I THINK THAT'S
CONTROVERSIAL, AND THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SAY BOTH.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST CAME OUT WITH THE BLUE RAY, THAT
WAS A REAL PREVALENT CONCERN.
>> OH, THE BLUE TOOTH EAR? >> YES, THE BLUE TOOTH.
SO THEY DID RESEARCH, AND APPARENTLY, YOU KNOW, THAT
WAS PRETTY MUCH PROVEN NOT TO BE THE CASE.
BUT I DID READ SOME RESEARCH RECENTLY THAT SAYS THAT IT
DOES, THAT THE VIBRATION THAT IT'S EMITTING ARE
CAUSING THE BRAIN TO RESPOND.
SO BASICALLY, YOUR BRAIN IS AT A POINT WHERE IT NEVER
HAS TOTAL RELAXATION. SO IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO
SLEEP WITH YOUR PHONE NEARBY, ALTHOUGH MOST OF US
PROBABLY DO BECAUSE WE'RE USING IT NOW FOR OUR ALARM
CLOCK. >> I KNOW I DO.
SO TURN IT OFF WHEN YOU GO TO SLEEP?
>> EVEN TURNING IT OFF DOESN'T MATTER, YOU REALLY
NEED TO HAVE IT AWAY. WHEN THE PHONE IS TURNED
OFF, IT CAN STILL BE A RECEIVER.
THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T BRING IT INTO SECURED AREAS.
SO YOU REALLY SHOULD GET BACK TO THE OLD ALARM CLOCK
AND PUT YOUR PHONE SOMEPLACE.
AT A MINIMUM, WHAT I DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A SITUATION
IN MY FAMILY WHERE WE'RE WATCHING A FAMILY MEMBER WHO
IS ILL, SO AT A MINIMUM I KEEP IT, FROM 10:00 P.M. TO
7:00 A.M., I ONLY USE IT FOR CALLS FOR EMERGENCY TYPE
SITUATIONS. BUT THAT'S STILL NOT REALLY
HAVING THE IMPACT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT.
IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE OUT OF THE ROOM.
>> THIS IS HELPFUL, AND I'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS AS
WELL FOR A FAMILY MEMBER IN OUR FAMILY WHO HAS BEEN
SUFFERING FROM THESE THINGS FROM CELLPHONES, TOO.
BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
TIM, ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE TO THANK YOU.
LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO INFLICT ON THE PUBLIC'S
CONSCIOUSNESS, TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT REALLY
QUITE FASCINATING AS STANDALONE SUBJECTS.
BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE STRING OF FOLKS LIKE
THIS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL TIME.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> HOW DO FOLKS KIND OUT
ABOUT IT? IT'S COMING UP TOMORROW,
CERTAINLY, BUT IF THERE'S ANY LAST MINUTE THINGS THEY
CAN DO OR WATCH -- IS THERE A WAY TO WATCH?
>> THERE IS, ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN WATCH IT FREE ONLINE
AT TEDX ABQ.COM. JOIN OUR FACEBOOK COMMUNITY
AT FACEBOOK.COM/TEDX ABQ. WE'VE GOT MONTHLY SALONS
WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET TOGETHER AND JUST HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH OTHER VERY INTERESTING PEOPLE ONCE A
MONTH AT THE ALBUQUERQUE MUSEUM, AND THERE'S MORE
INFORMATION AT TEDX ABQ.COM, AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO JOIN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'VE REALLY MANAGED TO ATTRACT PEOPLE IN NEW MEXICO
WHO ARE VERY CURIOUS, WHO REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT MORE
ABOUT THE WORLD THEY LIVE IN, AND HOW WE CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE AND MAKE IT BETTER.
>> GOOD FOR YOU. THANKS FOR COMING BACK,
REALLY, THIRD YEAR IN A ROW. GUYS, BREAK A LEG.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE AWESOME. WE'LL SEE YOU THERE.