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QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
THE HOUSE IS COMING BACK IN
FOR A SERIES OF VOTES LIVE HERE
ON C-SPAN.
THE HOUSE IS THE NE
CONFIDENT -- IS IN THE COMMITTEE
OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE
OF THE UNION.
A BILL MAKING
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 2012, AND FOR
OTHER PURPOSES.
WHEN THE COMMITTEE OF
THE WHOLE ROSE ON TUESDAY, JULY
26, 2011, THE BILL HAD BEEN READ
THROUGH PAGE 56, LINE 22.
PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 8 OF RULE --
PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OF RULE 18,
PROCEEDINGS WILL NOW RESUME ON
THOSE AMENDMENTS ON WHICH
FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE
POSTPONED IN THE FOLLOWING
ORDER.
AMENDMENT BY MR. CLARKE OF
MICHIGAN, AMENDMENT BY MR. DICKS
OF WRA AND AMENDMENT BY MR.
TONKO OF NEW YORK AND AMENDMENT
BY AMASH OF MICHIGAN AND
AMENDMENT BY MR. DODD OF
ILLINOIS, AMENDMENT NUMBER 44 BY
MR. REID OF NEW YORK, AND
AMENDMENT -- REED OF NEW YORK,
AND AMENDMENT BY MR. SCALISE OF
INDIANA.
THE CHAIR WILL REDUCE TO TWO
ELECTRONIC VOTE AFTER THE FIRST
VOTE IN THIS SERIES.
THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE
REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON
THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE
GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN, MR.
CLARKE, ON WHICH FURTHER
PROCEEDINGS WILL POSTPONE AND ON
WHICH THE NOES PREVAIL BY VOICE
VOTE.
THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE
AMENDMENT.
MR. CLARKE OF MICHIGAN.
BEEN REQUESTED.
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST
FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE
AND BE COUNTED.
A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING
ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS
ORDERED.
MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES
THIS WILL BE A 15-MINUTE VOTE.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE,
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED
COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY
PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.]
ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS
ARE 173 AND THE NAYS ARE 251.
THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED.
THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE
REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON
THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE
GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR.
DICKS, ON WHICH FURTHER
WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY
VOICE VOTE.
THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE
AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT OFFERED BY
MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON.
A RECORDED VOTE HAS
BEEN REQUESTED.
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST
FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE
AND BE COUNTED.
A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING
ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS
ORDERED.
MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES
THIS IS A TWOMAN MINUTE VOTE --
TWO-MINUTE VOTE.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE,
INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED
COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY
PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.]
ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS
ARE 223, THE NAYS ARE 201 AND
THE AMENDMENT --
ON TO -- ON THIS VOTE
THE YEAS ARE 224, THE NAYS ARE
202, THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE
REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON
THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE
TONKO, ON WHICH FURTHER
PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND
ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY
VOICE VOTE.
THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE
AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT OFFER BY
MR. TONKO OF NEW YORK.
BEEN REQUESTED.
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST
FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE
A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING
ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS
ORDERED.
MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES
BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE.
THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE,
INC., IN COOPERATION WITH THE
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED
COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS EXPRESSLY
PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.]
ON THIS VOTE THE
YEAS ARE 184, THE NAYS ARE 238,
THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.
THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS THE
REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON
AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 PRINTED IN
THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD
OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM
MICHIGAN, MR. AMASH, ON WHICH
POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES
PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE.
THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE
AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT PRINTED IN
THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD
OFFERED BY MR. AMASH OF
MICHIGAN.
BEEN REQUESTED.
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST
FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE
A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING
ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS
ORDERED.
MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES
BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE.
THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION
WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED
COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS
EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]
ON THIS VOTE THE
YEAS ARE 131, THE NAYS 294 WITH
ONE PRESENT, THE AMENDMENT IS
NOT AGREED TO.
MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THESE
ARE TWO-MINUTE VOTES AND URGE
THAT THEY REMAIN IN THE
CHAMBER.
THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A
REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON
AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE
GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR.
DOLD, ON WHICH PROCEEDINGS WERE
POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES
PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE.
THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE
AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT OFFERED BY
MR. DOLD OF ILLINOIS.
BEEN REQUESTED.
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST
FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE
A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING
ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS
ORDERED.
MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES
BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE.
THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION
WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED
COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR
COMMERCIAL PURPOSES IS
EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]
ON THIS VOTE THE
YEAS ARE 137.
THE NAYS ARE 291.
THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.
THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A
REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE ON
THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE
GENTLEMAN FROM NEW YORK, MR.
REED, ON WHICH FURTHER
PROCEEDINGS WERE POSTPONED AND
ON WHICH THE NOES PREVAILED BY
VOICE VOTE.
THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE
AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT NUMBER 44
PRINTED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL
RECORD OFFERED BY MR. REED OF
NEW YORK.
BEEN REQUESTED.
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST
FOR A RECORDED VOTE WILL RISE
A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING
ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS
ORDERED.
MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES
THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY
INSTITUTE, INC., IN COOPERATION
WITH THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED
COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.]
ON THIS VOTE THE
YEAS ARE --
ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS
ARE 237.
THE NAYS ARE 189.
THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO.
I'M SORRY, THE AMENDMENT IS
AGREED TO.
THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS
REQUEST FOR RECORDED VOTE ON
AMENDMENT AS MODIFIED AND
OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM
LOUISIANA, MR. SCALISE, ON WHICH
FURTHER PROCEEDINGS WERE
POSTPONED AND ON WHICH THE NOES
PREVAILED BY VOICE VOTE.
THE CLERK WILL REDESIGNATE THE
AMENDMENT.
BY MR. SCALISE OF
LOUISIANA AS MODIFIED.
A RECORDED VOTE HAS
BEEN REQUESTED.
THOSE IN SUPPORTS OF A RECORDED
VOTE WILL RISE AND BE COUNTED.
A SUFFICIENT NUMBER HAVING
ARISEN, A RECORDED VOTE IS
ORDERED.
MEMBERS WILL RECORD THEIR VOTES
BY ELECTRONIC DEVICE.
THIS WILL BE A TWO-MINUTE VOTE.
[CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY THE
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF
ANY USE OF THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED
COVERAGE OF THE HOUSE
PROCEEDINGS FOR POLITICAL OR
PROHIBITED BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.]
ON THIS VOTE THE YEAS
ARE 215.
THE NAYS ARE 213.
THE AMENDMENT IS AGREED TO.
THE COMMITTEE WILL BE
IN ORDER.
THE CHAIR ASKS MEMBERS TO CLEAR
THE AISLE, REMOVE CONVERSATIONS
SO THE COMMITTEE MAY CONTINUE
ITS WORK.
IN ORDER.
THE CLERK WILL CONTINUE TO READ.
PAGE 56, LINE 23, YOU
CONCHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE,
SECTION 116, NONE OF THE FUNDS
MAY BE USED BY THE SECRETARY TO
IMPLEMENT REGULATIONS RELATING
TO WATERS LOCATED WITHIN UCONN
CHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON
RISE?
I HAVE AN AMENDMENT
AT THE DESK.
THE AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT OFFERED BY
MR. DICKS OF WASHINGTON.
PAGE 56, BEGINNING ON LINE 23,
STRIKE SECTION 116.
THE GENTLEMAN WILL
WITHHOLD.
THE CHAIR AGAIN REQUESTS MEMBERS
REMOVE AUDIBLE CONVERSATION.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS
RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
I ASK UNANIMOUS
CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND.
WITHOUT OBJECTION.
SECTION 116 WOULD
PROHIBIT THE NATIONAL PARK
SERVICE FROM CARRYING OUT BOAT
INSPECTION OR SAFETY CHECKS ON
THE UCONN RIVER WITHIN YUKON
CHARLIE NATIONAL PRESERVE IN
ALASKA.
THIS PROVISION WAS PUT IN AT THE
REQUEST OF MR. YOUNG FROM ALASKA
WHO IS UPSET WITH THE NATIONAL
PARK SERVICE LAW ENFORCEMENT AT
THE PRESERVE.
LAST SUMMER TWO PARK RANGERS
ARRESTED A 70-YEAR-OLD FOLLOWING
AN ALTERCATION DURING A BOAT
SAFETY INSPECTION.
THIS CASE IS STILL BEFORE THE
COURTS, BUT IT HAS STIRRED
CONSIDERABLE LOCAL ANGER,
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS LEARNED
THE TWO RANGERS HAD HANDCUFFED
BUT LATER RELEASED ANOTHER LOCAL
RESIDENT WHO REFUSED TO SPEAK TO
RANGERS WHEN APPROACHED.
NOW, IN THIS SITUATION, MR.
YOUNG OF ALASKA IS A LONG-TIME
FRIEND OF MINE.
AND I AM VERY HESITANT TO OFFER
THIS AMENDMENT TO STRIKE HIS
PROVISION, BUT I THINK HE'S
ALREADY WON THE CASE.
THE PEOPLE THERE -- THE TWO
RANGERS HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED TO
ANOTHER DUTY.
AND THEY DO HAVE JURISDICTION.
I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE
CHAIRMAN, CHAIRMAN YOUNG, AND I
-- THE PARK SERVICE ALWAYS HAS
JURISDICTION WITHIN THE NATIONAL
PARK.
NOW THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA
SUGGESTED THAT THE COAST GUARD
HAD JURISDICTION, OR THE STATE
HAD JURISDICTION, BUT WE HAVE
CHECKED THIS CAREFULLY.
THE PARK SERVICE HAS
JURISDICTION WITHIN THE NATIONAL
PARK TO LOOK AT SAFETY ON THE
RIVER.
AND I THINK IT IS WRONG TO
PROHIBIT A SAFETY INSPECTION FOR
PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES ARE AT RISK
UP THERE.
I MEAN I HAVE BEEN TO ALASKA
MANY TIMES.
THESE RIVERS CAN BE VERY
DANGEROUS.
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE BEING -- THIS IS A
COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR.
THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MOVED
AROUND IN THESE BOATS ARE SAFE.
THE PEOPLE ON THE BOATS ARE
SAFE.
WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR NOT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO THE
RANKING MEMBER AND DISCUSS THIS
AMENDMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF
IT.
WHY IS THIS NOT AN
EARMARK?
WHY IS THIS NOT AN EARMARK FOR
PRESERVE?
WHILE WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT,
THE -- PERHAPS MR. YOUNG CAN
COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION, BUT
I SHARE THE RANKING MEMBER'S
GREAT AFFECTION FOR MR. YOUNG.
HE'S A GOOD FRIEND.
BUT THIS ALSO CREATES A
PRECEDENT.
ANY TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS ON
NATIONAL PRESERVE OR PARKLAND,
THEY COULD COME TO THE CONGRESS
AND SAY, ALL RIGHT.
NO MORE INSPECTIONS.
AND WE COULD GET A PROLIFERATION
OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
SPECIFIC TO INDIVIDUAL NATIONAL
RESERVES OR PARKS.
THE FACT IS THAT IF THE PARK
SERVICE HAS JURISDICTION, THEN
THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY.
AND I'LL BET YOU ANYTHING THAT
IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT THERE
WOULD BE NO BOAT INSPECTIONS,
SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND SOME SERIOUS ACCIDENT IS
GOING TO OCCUR AND THEN PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO ASK, WHY IN GOSH
NAME WASN'T THE PARK SERVICE
THERE TO DO INSPECTIONS?
AND IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO
THIS WHERE WE SET A PRECEDENT
NOT ALLOWING ANY BOAT
INSPECTION, SAFETY CHECK.
I THINK THIS PRECEDENT --
WOULD THE GENTLEMAN
YIELD.
THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
I CAN REMEMBER ONE OF OUR
COLLEAGUES PUTTING IN A
PROVISION IN ONE OF THESE BILLS,
I THINK IT WAS IN THE MERCHANT
MARINE AND FISHERIES BILL YEARS
AGO, ABOUT ONE OF THE BOATS THAT
WAS GOING UP TO ALASKA TO FISH
IN THESE VERY DANGEROUS WATERS.
THIS WASN'T IN THE RIVER.
THIS WAS IN THE OCEAN.
AND THAT BOAT WENT DOWN.
AND THERE WAS MANY QUESTIONS
RAISED ABOUT WHY THAT MEMBER HAD
PROHIBITED BOAT AND SAFETY
INSPECTIONS OF THAT BOAT.
NOW, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN IS
COMPLETELY RIGHT.
THIS IS A BAD PRECEDENT.
THE GENTLEMAN FROM ALASKA HAS
ALREADY WON.
HE HAS ALREADY GOTTEN HIS VIEW
ACROSS WITH THE PARK SERVICE.
THEY HAVE TAKEN THESE RANGERS
AWAY.
IT'S TIME TO LEAVE THIS.
AND WE ARE DOING THIS IN THE
BEST INTEREST OF MR. YOUNG.
AND IF MR. YOUNG WOULD LIKE TO
GET UP AND EXPLAIN THIS I'D
LIKE TO HEAR HIS EXPLANATION.
I YIELD BACK MY TIME.
THE TIME OF THE
GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS
EXPIRED.
MR. YOUNG.
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
RISE?