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of an infrastructure
uh... you you have
uh... see
that you're getting matching funds in about twenty states may be that may end
up being a little bit more
or uh... you know dist
uh... eyeballing this off your map
and uh... was so why do you use it i mean
ultimately i mean what is it
the pitch
in terms of how you think your vote is going to import implicate uh... politics
going uh... going forward i mean it
you you're talking about sending a message you're talking about building an
infrastructure uh... talk to me
just what what the what the book dome the longer term
vision is for that
we aren't you know act
the harder for ever being told that we have the fear campaign that been ground
into effort lethal at tenured although cutback
very very mad but it's been a specially intense and month opposition party that
is non corporate sponsored
progressive party have mostly been wiped off the faith of the political map
it's only the green party that has survived for various reasons i think
your you know greenbelt give up wheather
by definition we're looking at the big picture of the big picture doesn't look
good
belgrade but you don't get that there is no abt the garlic that you know back to
the drawing board on demography and to take our political process back
from you know the fourth of the paltry van natta multinational corporations and
but apple political party and unit that we've been here and and we've been ahead
of the curve on all kind of issue time getting money out of politics
to you know creating in real dyed democratic
bobby democratic multiparty then
that's done that allow the beleaguered ordinary people to be heard
public funding of of election
uh... we how you know have been calling for progress on un climate
the fight climate change for green energy
for nonviolent conflict resolution at the uh... they picked up up for a coffee
rep improve military force
scale for protecting our civil liberties unintentionally after issue we've been
ahead of the car
and occurred at caught up to act in a big way and
i think people are beginning to recognize that that politics touch here
that uh... cclc
you know independent
political contact
that go away and be quiet and jeff you know quote you our fear is not your
valued we now have ten years of experience fifty where that
point-of-view have gotten out
it pretty clear that
file and which is what it protocol
piloted not an effective political strategy and in fact the politics of
here
that product everything we can afraid up from the ic anymore which we've gotten
big-time under that that uh... you know he returned from iraq only because
it with george bush is firm date of the trial he was unable to poke fun at which
he tried to do
he expanded the work she serves too few
uh... afghanistan
on the wall street bailout seven hundred billion under bush spoke for a half
trillion under that president
and many many trillions worth sixteen trillion more actually
in free loan to wall street which is basically a getaway
on the free trade agreement you know which works
imports by bush signed by clinton
and now barkley expanded by perot ako palmitic currently negotiating in secret
it trans-pacific partnership which
basically put
uh... nafta you know to chain it because we have tons erode that we're getting in
these free trade agreement and our job numbers being
amake undermine wages here at home
the president is how in general motors what we did have been splashed
practically inhabit the model for the american economy going forward jaap
civil liberties had been
absolutely
slashed by george bush
and all of those
latches that have been codified
by the president basically written and provide an expanded the at the
right-to-life any about
in the prison at will
to death a lot of indefinite detention decriminalize protest
and and actually to attack made american vets and dead he cleans it
with with absolutely no accountability felt
all these reasons we were told we got to be quiet
and go along with a lesser evil
well we've gotten
all of those redone we were told to be
quietly got not all that apartheid at
as delivered everything we were afraid up it's really important
to replace the politics of fear with the politics of courage
and handout for the long haul we are the ones we've been waiting for in the word
out
locker
now no i'm not agree with
um... with who is with legacy with with uh... uh... almost uh...
everything he said in terms of uh... of your issues in your analysis of the of
the problems here uh...
is it go to the extent that uh... that i have the whole time to plan this
i one of those people who do feel that at least in the context of the
the swing state
um... that
um... that it is it is a
a dangerous thing to be voting for a third party
uh...
because it could even be able
uh... mitt romney's
uh...
my camera are you why millimeter be quite that that place you know i it by
entertainment you call it
and and i've often caught the people
who bank nab meissner what we have today
and ended
you know it's not like talking to a combine uh... in that a_t_r_ in abusive
relationship
you know where the abused has been caught
general
uh... unit entered its power the
uh... apologies for the abuser let that now you should know you should know
that uh...
i had behind none apologist
for obama
odd there is nothing that you brought up bank but i haven't but i have a that i
haven't gone into extensively
but i mean i don't have to look at uh... i'd take a look at uh... what ron the
and uh...
uh... orion are proposing and uh... exactly eric wright apartment except
your point not knock everybody actually apologizing for obama
uh... madonna vote for him better true
so you know there i think it's really important he that while you're both of
the reluctant below
and while at the letter evil both it will be interpreted nonetheless at the
mandate
and you'll get more of the string any point in time you can point to
uh... different fair
uh... between democrats and republicans that may suggest
at the time in a moment may think that
why
the republicans ship it thinking much faster than the democratic chef
however it important to remember
look at what we've gotten from although run from brocco palmer while he found
that much better then the republican in fact you been able to do much work
than george bush was a turkey able to do with a look at the expanding warren
the wall street bailout
the attack on our civil liberties
because essentially opposition goes away barack obama
it's a very talented and gil hypnotic larder
who will essentially quell the competition and you know because
to fight history here the president
it's really important to recognize that it's not only cool hold office
it's whether or not
there have been in power
uh...
political movement dot had eight point
and that he had a vision and that is not afraid to challenge and unfortunately
under brocco bomber opposition goes between
so that what you get is actually much woodward
than what we would have gotten under george bush had we had
a paid would be really uh...
you know in power
opposition weight and what you can see in the occupied movement
in the student protest in the addiction blockade
u_p_s_ eight copy political movement social movement really
which is alive and well at the grassroots
but which does not have a political ploy and to look at history
and when we had transformational change
it not be cut
we had to be president or in a decade of cool you know cool led the fight
no it was because there was a social movement on the ground
and they would be a political challenge in the form of independent work marty
it's a to annapolis piercing delivery let me tell you later
because by that because my point is exactly the
swan that you made a minority couple couple of the places i trot out there
but that
it is not a
um... who is president
and who is that uh... leader of the political party but it is about social
movements
and event
so isn't
eliza leaving that aside for a moment um... uh... we will circle back to that
but amid assuming that is the most important uh... functionality dog copied
art card
i think it's been it's important to know if you're stock of salute that
it also having an independent political challenge
that actually make history and if the two working together
that actually make it sound upset yet
but that israel should with or
this notion
of live
uh... obama wins
a high uh... war florida
pennsylvania colorado
by
fourpoints in each of those states
that he is going to have amended antique this'll
notion of mandate
or experienced this
i mean i've never experienced where devotes representative mandate or not
you know george bush
lost the country by five hundred thousand votes
uh... he theoretically had
last you know what whatever the opposite of a total mandate is
he seemed to have had
but yet he was still able to sort of uh... lead this country into an illegal
occupation an invasion
that that killed over a hundred thousand people by our innocent civilians by our
own admission i'm out in the numbers significantly higher
a mix of this notion uh...
mandate nm i don't necessarily accept
the idea of
that that last idea of of building a social uh... movement it seems to me
that one of the problems
we can argue back and forth as to whether or not uh...
you know it and it came with the better
uh... than uh... than uh... brocco bomb and we can never really know these
things i mean i would imagine
urgent that al gore would not have uh... taken us into iraq but maybe i'm wrong i
mean there's no way to really know but but we can look at what actually has
happened it it seems to be that under those ten years or eight years of george
bush
much of the genuine progressivism was e_-coli opted into this partisan fervor
against the republicans
and and how i would say that
brocco paloma is uh... the first piece of evidence of that ending that he was
i'm going to get out of the uh...
the candidate after eight years of of
of george bush uh... and that
the notion that the occupy movement and these other genuine more grassroots
social movements
under oklahoma is not a coincidence that in fact uh... there was no institutional
howlett
or many of
if not dispositive policies but the idea is
uh... to be implemented and and in buying uh... you know
by seeing that present a problem was not going to fill this uh... this promise in
many respects um...
opened up the the arena for the social movements
and absolutely on you know i think what
you have been found so moving are eric telefilm of the
incredible failure of our economic system and i think that the and our
political system as well because it had or to block out
you know helping change uh... you know i i i i don't believe
under
you know a corporate sponsored political party of whatever strike you know
and art
i'd agree with you that that social movement and going away at the only
intensified
you know in my view
that social movement there there of the political expression it should not be
denied it
it bleed a democratic party
you know and africa coop and uh... island
and she was sideline eta social movement
we do better
historically when we have office social movement at both a political party and i
think we
see that
you know we we can affect me in the in the labor movement where we had a
opposition labor party
uh... socialist parties but buchanan
unimpeded freedom came later but uh... you know it is one of them
uh... certainly the uh... the communist party the party of the these left party
uh... we're independent they were pushing an agenda they forced the hand
of f_d_r_ it wasn't only that there was a social movement there with a political
trapped in the words of frederick douglass
power compete nothing without a demand
it never did and it never well
that to me and needs to be in the political
uh... in political deathchord
otherwise
all the work that that social movement dot
it crashed
by the continued rightward search of both political parties if there is not
eighty political challenge as well of the puzzle challenge
you have
uh... you don't you potentially violence the belief in the public interest
but what did you hear by definition are corporate sponsor and their corporate
scripted and essentially what we feel obama andromeda who now uh... both of
them
fundamentally competing up for
corporate money phil
that's why you don't hear student
uh... come up in this
you know in the political campaign that one bitmap into the key issue i
neglected to mention
our campaign alone
if calling for
tuition free
public higher education and for bailing out unit and homeowners
dot bankers there are thirty six million students right now who do not have the
future
even if barack obama were collected on the
uh... on the agenda he's campaigning not which we learned
is of far cry from what he actually implement but electric and that he had
pseudo minimalist popular at the right now what his agenda it doesn't even
include
uh... dealing with the student crisis the loan crisis these beat generation of
indentured servant
this is the real engine of change that your the driver of
convert where and the revolution in tunisia
it is a generation of young people who do not have a future they are locked out
and i think by
essentially apologizing for
uh... if not
if not in arm
inward then indeed
by boeing for even these corporate sponsor candidate
we basically lot people
you know who i i'm a real repeating ends here
of this incredible uh... you know
uh... dot spiral that our economy and our climate are in at weed pollen
clearly on the seller the younger generation
yes now
anita pratap if if we're gonna characterized as a vo
uh... in this situation for
oro bowman
as an as an apology going for
the against the idea is that i mean
from what you're saying is that uh... this is going to add to a mandate and
there's going to be no
there's going to be no
uh... sort of
broader political understanding that there's a call for change
tell me i don't know
tell you have to go out and walk away with that
anthony's
well tell me what i have
um... if i vote
green
and
uh... or byob arm
or romney wins i mean i'm curious and they do you know academic as somebody
who is both devoted green in presidential elections in the past him
and i want to know what what is the green party going to be it what is the
green parties plan
or twenty thirteen twenty fourteen twenty fifteen if
mitt romney's present were president obama is present
you know even way we mark
build the future and that we do there're and we must demand that
though you know i think that what you feel now the green party that had come
of age
that had managed to survive a climate where no other
nam corporate opposition party has survived
they don't think that
several of them had gathered together
under the green party up umbrella
in order to a built-in political
vehicle
four that social movement and i think we've
senior social movements
uh... converge
be out with the green party in this
agenda as well to where we are staying alive to be occupied leaders
join the party become a part of the campaign many of them running for office
at well under the banner of the green party
you know ad
that agenda for the future
in being discussed now and
we are using that
opportunity other national conversation
to enlarged and strengthen the green party to bilbao open
to revive the big party for many of them that had
bun dark over the past ten years have come back to life they
are working to get on the ballot they have worked to qualify for
matching funds we have an incredibly revive grassroots
structure are immediate target coming out of the collection
are actually municipal elections and potentially some legislative at well but
for twenty thirteen were targeting municipal election
in some of the stronghold
for young people and for the green party in the occupied over where are we have
very strong candidate
crew we think we can help breakthrough we can enlarge green party membership on
pico opal
uh... elect eight wider
uh... a group of green party mayor then begin to move people
into our state legislatures about it the first target
but where unit rates as well because
it is a perfect storm
for advancing that structure and for really advancing division
and there is
so much that can be done
by launching division at a national level
this national rated very much
uh... patterned after our work here at my home state of massachusetts whereby
running
uh... repeatedly hundred ability election
we were able to replied
an energized state party
to wear it if they have only a bomb game analogy where we regularly
are winning the endorsement of labor growth and women's groups an
environmental groups that although to a youthful look
to the democratic party
are now frequently looking to the green candidate
endorsing green the even in three and four way race there
because
they that that that that uh... democrat the basically abandoned ship
on his agenda that we need to go forward
but we are very much
applying
uh... you note at the lectern of
out of building a grassroots organization from the bottom up
let me ask you this is a need for because i think you know
because i just
these are issues that i have been struggling with that
uh... for years frankly
one
why not
take this uh... energy that uh...
uh... end and you know eyes i feel i am
have to ask this question
but what what is that what you're talking about
aid moral effective means in which to uh... to build this uh...
this party this move
and give a political expression
why is it more effective to do this
idea of the local democratic party structure
i mean i understand from a national level of we're talking about big money
it's a big corporate interests are you know we do twenty five years ago the
democratic party at the national party naval very conscious decision to go
after corporate money
but what we're talking about
uh... we're talking about you know the
statewide county level uh... democratic parties
you can go and be a uh... you know a uh... uh... county has said on that date
the county nominating slate when if you could literally walk in there and just
put your name down and uh... fifty percent of time you can get that uh...
position was a very powerful position why not you
use that existing apparatus and take over that apparatus rather try to create
ho ho
all-new one from whole cloth
well you know
alike and they've been there done that you know they're really good people who
have been struggling to do that for many years
i would point to for example many deactivate then uh... in p_t_a_
incorrect the democrats a rare you have been trying to do it by thing that
happened here in my own bait here inuit progressive democrat really fighting
against the set them and and while they're uh... you know good people have
tried hard
for a long time to
do exactly that
and there to basically who keeps coming into the green party we are populated
with
democrat to have just
uh... gone to them
breaking point and beyond and
at the end of the day you can do good local politics but the money
will
up make the different the money and the hierarchy within the democratic party
we came to respect
uh... democratic challengers it for example embarked on a great hearing that
the cheap if we had a really principal democrat
who have challenging a little bit more in the lab uh... but came back to you
know very limited oaks you won't challenge money to account foreign
policy
whether they're a little bit that she will challenge other than
we've heard about controller protection i have all three which is an important
issue about it expect we're not going to get out of your alive that if that's all
we take on
you know i'm a little excellent dot democrat
graduate campaign challenging her
that would basically ah... engineered off the ballot
and there was a vote that was engineered the f_b_i_ democratic party convention
in order to keep her
out of a prior
don't you know we we get this is not the exception of the rule that powell party
uh... machine politics work and
look at people like contention now there are a lot but good people like that who
had spent a lifetime look at oracle bum out you know
and people went to the map
for him and beyond
uh... who've just been completely screwed over didn't you know what i'll
do
who dredged up hundreds of dollars to contribute to him and and when
went door-to-door four can you know i now babe the pig popper dan indentured
servant then they're not happy about it
you know i think we keep being talked into
the pressing our opponent
uh... you know inspired with defense and that is the role that the democratic
party have berman played all you know they are they are let you know her
they are effectively the apologized for
or the pathway after and provide a friendly and welcoming safe and get
people to squander their precious
activity here
working with an apt at them and i think people it hit the breaking point not
only politically but they don't have jobs
and day if they have a job they don't have living wages
and you know and and they're being thrown out of their home idm million and
a m student are indentured servant and the climate is melting down
before our very eyes in the president and you know engineered
the uh... the failure of any national agreement be empowered the bill would be
of any national agreement
until twenty twenty you know until there is a major social and political upheaval
that what we need a rebate social economic upheaval
which it taking plagued right now there is a rebellion in full swing
it deserves to be amplified
with a political point if you take away at political void
you pick up the hat movement
because the combination
of a political independent political boy
with eight social movement
is unstoppable
and that's where we need to go does
you know we go there elect damage out we will have to undo and the greater the
cod
that we can provide into the next century right now we are on a trajectory
for you know it but don't date *** x_-ray we don't want to be on the
trajectory we need to fight
the predator uh... on every front and that includes a voting booth through at
the white flag surrender
over the voting booth at the put up all
over all the work that we do it outside of the voting booth we need to empower
ourselves politically as well as uh... socially
nigel still
time uh... the candidate for
or presidency of united states from the green party you can check out jule styne
dot org
is there any other uh... sites that uh... working people get more
information on uh... the green party
octagonal t he dot or
i think
if you go to our website you will
the real leading-edge of the green party and where we are going and milk he had
very clearly
articulated agenda and you can join the team one of our
immediate upcoming uh... target actually had to open up the debate
let at least allow the american people
he hear what their choices are
and not leave that up to
a private corporation
uh... to answered by the democratic and republican parties who is goal
is to suppress the date
and cut violent political opposition
the american public you know about in paul outfit sixty one percent
i think they think we need a third party in with directly consider voting for one
but actually allow
the american public to hear about what it took the car
just and thank you so much for joining us
appreciate the time today