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Erik: How do you define and measure success in what you do?
Julie: I'm an incredibly competitive person so you know when I'm in a situation where
I get to be competitive and get to be challenged that makes me incredibly happy. And I think
it goes back to you know it keeps me busy, I like to be very busy and it all just kind
of ties in together. And you know people who see me running around and you know biting
off more than I can chew, which I do all the time, that's just part of my MO, is just make
sure that I reach for like 10 things and that you know no one should be able to accomplish
and I'll just stay up until I get them done. But I thrive on that. And it really -- it
gives me energy you know sort of like energy builds energy and that makes me very, very
happy.