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joining us is Dennis Campbell he is editor in chief UK progressive magazine
also host a worldview with Dennis Campbell
YouTube dot com slash world view show Dennis we've been reading a lot about
the
recent violence and casualties
in Egypt with there are conflicting numbers there is a lot of conflicting
information and in many cases just lack of information
for people who may not have been following let's just kinda first start
with this
this recent a bubbling a violence that's taking place
was as as your viewers are probably well aware
the government have
Egyptian president Morsi was eliminated essentially six weeks ago
on the military reached a point where they looked at the
the situation they were never happy with the fact that
a radical Islamists such as Morsi
have been duly elected in the democratic process
and they were really looking for an opportunity to
to ramp up against him and it was a year
and I think it was three or four days from when he was sworn in
that public sentiment had finally reached a point
where 15 million people marched in the streets
even more than martian against Mubarak two and a half years earlier
and the army moved very quickly this time
and basically said you're done they tried to install
a up so the caretaker government until a new Parliament could be formed
and a new president elected on included in that group was
Mohamed ElBaradei who is so 10 the
or opposition leaders but he wasn't selected by the opposition
and you have a situation where it quickly devolved into chaos the
supporters of Morsi
were quick to call this a a military coup
of course the US government could not call it a coup because that would
immediately shut off
all aidid military and otherwise to Egypt today
just a few minutes ago President Obama came out and announced that they would
be no
joint military exercises between US and Egyptian forces so
that's off the table and basically we've got ourselves a complete
mess at this point so I think that given the lack of
love the completely up to date in factual information we kind of
understand that there is this
this chaotic situation I think an interesting thing to talk about with you
and I were talking about before we went on air today
is that every time that this that violate any level of violence bubbles up
in Egypt you see a lot of criticism from people around the world saying
why hasn't this work yet why hasn't there why why are things all resolved in
everything is all set so far
do you think that the time line that is implicit in those questions
is even a reasonable one historically speaking the only thing I can do david
has to say look at your own country as an example there in the United States
and in
if you go all the way back to the start above the
I believe they call it the difficulties of the colonies you're on this side of
the pond
on you know that all started back well before
the Declaration of Independence you had all sorts of problems with taxation
without representation all sorts of
demands by the crown on the columnists in terms of giving up income and things
of that sort
and the real Boston Tea Party not what we see going on right now
in the the recess period was something
that happened well before the start of the actual formal war in 1775
when the British came over with troops and you have Lexington and Concord mall
the battles that occurred around that
that then took another year on top of that too
get to the point we finally declared victory and
independence from the crap well that 1776
it then took the United States to Federalist Papers and lots of other tax
issues and lots of internal fights indeed
all there were a couple more invasions by the by the crowd at that point in
time to try and get back what they'd lost
it took 11 years until 1787
when the actual US Constitution was for
now we're talking about a period where basically
we condensed all Lexington col coordinate every single one of the
battles
up the American Revolutionary War into
18 days in Egypt and I think the simple fact that they were able to get
rid of Hosni Mubarak so quickly has also worked very much against them
when I look at the the situation today
my heart goes out most to the I call them students but they were really much
older than that
the ones that actually did the heavy lifting that started this revolution
because they started it for all the right reasons
then the opportunists came to the table bed by opportunist I'm talking the
Muslim Brotherhood
and the political parties that had an agenda because they'd been
pretty much banish for about eighty years but they've been functioning
underground and I often compare
the revolutionaries that actually caused Mubarak to resign due to the US Occupy
movement
to what we're seeing right now with the fracking thing going on down balcom in
southeast England
you the the seeds and the tools
to moment revolution a dramatically different
from the tools needed to that move forward know what are the issues
I've always been very very concerned about is the lack
up involvement you the political process
to try and advance the cause of the revolutionaries the Occupy movement
those that are against fracking it's all well and good to be out there and
protesting
Indy people are dying out there protesting I've lost several friends
over the course of the last day
and use in 30 say okay but what are you gonna do that actually now
go from being a protester to actually being part of the group that brings
about the real
fundamental systemic change that needs to happen
i think thats excellent excellent context for people who may not
understand that
maybe because the success came so quickly
at the beginning of the revolution the expectations may now be completely off
in a historical context more broadly speaking in about the constitution's I
think that's really really good
%uh good stuff for our audience and Dennis what's coming up on world view
show
welcomed the phone will you show depending on whether or not I was able
to get some interviews at a V chip because I've got a couple of friends
there that I'm trying to get some stuff on we we may preempt the existing show
that we've got for tonight
but we've got tonight a very interesting guy by the name move Earl Wilson junior
know some people may recognize the name of his father
Earl Wilson senior he was the original gossip columnist for the New York Post
as some has written a couple a very interesting musicals one of them is
entitled
yes which is his idea what would happen if Barack Obama
and Martin Luther King actually met face to face
and we're very excited to have this conversation because
this is a man who wrote a a very very big off-broadway hit back in the
nineteen eighties
called left my people come and that's a has nothing to do with race relations it
was a sex romp
and it wasn't you know incredible musical that that did
enormous numbers and allowed him to do these things but the yes musical
is going to be coming out in Kansas City in January of next year
and I hadn't heard about it until a friend introduced me to this got
fascinated
the music is incredible is performed some other songs with an eight hundred
person choir
in for the Jefferson Memorial %uh you know there's some really really cool
things going on with this project and i really think we're trying to
help ignite it we're gonna tell his story over the next two nights will help
part once night part two tomorrow and are coming up next week on book few
I'm going to interview Trenton all Ville all he
Oldfield he is the guy that jumped into the water and disrupted the Oxford
Cambridge Boat Race
because the the level I'll
on income disparity here in the United Kingdom in the crown in the courts one
after and tried to deport him
he's got a fascinating story told in the book and we're gonna be interviewing
it's it's been a really really good week for us
alright you to dot com slash world view show will talk to Dennis next week and
be back with plenty more after this